Calling out to DreadedHermie for a game of "stoner chess"

[DreadedHermie]

B x R

Edit: Hey, this takin' pitchers as ya go is mo' convenient than those dang diagrams. :thumbsup:

[Weezard]

B - Q 6!

Thanks for the breathing room.
That Bishop has been ever so vexing.

A.
W.

[DreadedHermie]

Wasn't your bishop onna black squares?

[Weezard]

Sure was, and still is.
Q6 is a black square.:)
Allow me to illustrate;
[attachment=o234775]
Stop whatever you are doing and pass me dat bowl, brah.:cool:

Aloha
W.
P. S.
You'll note that I did not say "Don't Bogart that bowl"
That would be incorrect usage.
Only works with a joint.
Most folks think it means don't hog it.
The actual derivation is a Humphrey Bogart habit.
He would smoke a cigarette down to the but, then "flick it away" with his thumb and middle finger.
So, the expression means, don't flick it, pass it.
You prolly know that.
I post it for the "kids", (under 50), that might have wondered.

[DreadedHermie]

I would call that square Q5 (for you).

Or Q4, for me.

It is relative to who's calling the move, isn't it?

But that bishop's on a rank that isn't '#6' for either one of us...

[DreadedHermie]

The actual derivation is a Humphrey Bogart habit.


I remember the song. Dan Hicks / Commander Cody...somebody like that.

I always took it to mean 'hit it, then pass it.' (Equivalent to "Don't 'Lloyd' the 'tank.'") :D

Flicking roaches away wasn't even a consideration, it'd getcha slapped by the cheap hoodlums I usta run with. We'd save them (roaches, not hoodlums) and categorize them according to how many times they'd been recycled and re-rolled. "Easy, man! That's fourth generation roach pot!"

True, it was nasty, tarry, stinky stuff that would give ya a headache preceded by a slight O2 deprivation 'high.' But to just throw away a roach? Not us po' kids... Ah, the good old days...

[DreadedHermie]

"Fraternity of Man?" Talk about a one-hit wonder....


Don't Bogart That Joint
Lyrics: Lawrence Wagner
Music: Elliot Ingber

Played by Little Feat's Paul Barrere and Bill Payne with Phil & Friends. The original verson (on the soundtrack of "Easy Rider") was by Fraternity Of Man. It was subsequently covered by Little Feat.

Chorus
Don't bogart that joint my friend
Pass it over to me
Don't bogart that joint my friend
Pass it over to me

Roll another one
Just like the other one
You've been holding on to it
And I sure will like a hit

[chorus]

Roll another one
Just like the other one
That one's burned to the end
Come on and be a real friend

[chorus]

Recordings

1969? Easy Rider (Soundtrack)
1988 The Last Record Album (Little Feat)

[DreadedHermie]

Goddess confirms the East coast norm was torching a roach between two matches and snorting the smoke. (ouch!) :eek:

Then there was the "heated knives on a stove burner" trick. Pliers and a propane torch was for da pro's....

[Weezard]

I would call that square Q5 (for you).

Or Q4, for me.

It is relative to who's calling the move, isn't it?

But that bishop's on a rank that isn't '#6' for either one of us...

Yer only right!
And I counted it 3 times.
Dang! Guess I'd betta send you some o dis just to even out da killing field.

I blame da "partly coudy", early picked, tanglebrain jar I just opened.
It started as superbuzz, but confusing.
Kinda expect dat when first dryed.
But, after 30 day in da hole, it became a serious agent of Chaos.
One hit, and I got 12 thumbs and a cataract.
Bounced 2 checks. (That's an expensive first),Argh!
I no smoke no mo' dat!

Sorry:o

Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

Don't feel too bad, I thought I had my bishop covering the diagonal path your bishop's on....that woulda protected my rook from your knight.

N - KR4

[Weezard]

Don't feel too bad, I thought I had my bishop covering the diagonal path your bishop's on....that woulda protected my rook from your knight.

N - KR4

That's why I said thanks fo' da breathing room.:D
R - KR3

Wait, lemme look again...
Yup 3.
Final answer.

W

[DreadedHermie]

R x P

FINALLY....

[Weezard]

R x P

FINALLY....

:stoned:
Unless dis is to make me feel betta, should not be your final answer.
I don't mind winning, but it should be harder, yah?;)
I still have a knight covering that pawn.
Been tyin' him up fo' long time.
See post 1232.

How now?

W.

[DreadedHermie]

Crap. I musta moved the knight anticipating yer next move. (I had him at my KB2).

Rethink...

K x P

[Weezard]

Crap. I musta moved the knight anticipating yer next move. (I had him at my KB2).

Rethink...

Yah, I do a lot of that.
So, I take a picture first, then forget to look at it.
Not that it would help. I'm having trouble,
calling a move with the board in front of me.

Dang! Gotta quit testin' my own meds .
Guess my :weedpoke: days are over.
I no want stronger!
(Nevah, evah, thought I'd say uncle.)
(Evah!!)

Weeze

Well, I know which King, but no see a pawn in range.??

[Weezard]

I had;
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a few moves back.
And there were no pawns in range.
So I guess you mean N x P.
In which case N - KB7.
He'p yo'sef!

Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

Yep. I knew it was either Kn or kN. :wtf:

Meant knight.

Not flakin', (not payin' attention, either) finally got part of my next project via super-speedy next-day-costsazillion bux courier. I guess the "data" part will arrive later...guess they coulda saved on the shipping...

So, kinda multitasking, getting ready to disappear back into the land of the working. :(

No more :stoned: for awhile, at least not during business hours (which are from noon to 6am for me :D)

Let's see, here...

[DreadedHermie]

R - KB1

Go fer your hog-laig...

[Weezard]

R - KB1

Go fer your hog-laig...

B - QB4
Check!

[DreadedHermie]

That's all you got?

K - QN5

[Weezard]

That's all you got?

K - QN5

Ya wants more, does ya?

A'ight

R - KB3
Feel the hot breath on yer knight?

W

[DreadedHermie]

N - KR4 (again)

[Weezard]

P - KR8
here's a nice, juicy, bran' new queen.
Wanna trade a Rook for her?

[DreadedHermie]

R x Q

N x R (?)

B - QB3

Green?

[Weezard]

R x Q

N x R (?)

B - QB3

Green?

Green.:jointsmile:

R - KB1


W.

[DreadedHermie]

I think white would normally resign here. I would, however, like to see what happens if I use up my cannon fodder trying to promote.

So, P - KN4

See ya, gotta crash awhile.

[mainegrown]

man weez wouldnt i love to have your problems.. hope i will in a few weeks :smokejoint:
seems as though the game is beginning to wind down..
hope you are ready for another one..
~MG

[Weezard]

man weez wouldnt i love to have your problems.. hope i will in a few weeks :smokejoint:
seems as though the game is beginning to wind down..
hope you are ready for another one..
~MG

Mo' betta, you and Hermie play, Den I can kibbitz fo bot' sides.
That would be more edifying, yah?
No let him fool you wit da reverse psych.

We are even in points.
He's got 2 passed pawns.
Well he did until I forced his King in front of one so I can attack the other.:D

There's still a chance, it's just mighty slim.:)

Aloha,

Weeze da wood pusher.

[Weezard]

I think white would normally resign here. I would, however, like to see what happens if I use up my cannon fodder trying to promote.

So, P - KN4

See ya, gotta crash awhile.

Best move onna board!
I'm sure you know what I must do.

R - QN1 Check!

K - R5 - no choice.

R - KN1!

Now, it looks bad.
Whew!
For a while dere, it looked like I would get hogtied and panfried.

From my latest fubar finance folly, it looks like I gotta quit tokin' for a week or so.
That could make me care about win/lose.:(
And without a well bent mind, it's just plain old chess and I always win;).
Takes all the fun out of it for me.
However, If you and MG play a set. I'll be able to critique both sides when I'm sharp.
Whuddaya think?

Off to be a doggydaddy, back soon.

Weeze.

[mainegrown]

i'm down for a game
just donw beat me down too quick ;)

P - D4

~MG

[mainegrown]

and can you import a mac chess game?? cause i can send it if that would help.. i can control both sides and save the log/export the game..
should make things easier i would imagine

and ya'll would have to instruct me on your notation i am only used to the standard notation system but yours seems valid too

~MG

[DreadedHermie]

However, If you and MG play a set. I'll be able to critique both sides when I'm sharp.
Whuddaya think?


I'm already back to work. Gonna be kinda tied up through the first week in Feb. Youse guys have at it, I gotta buncha people waitin' on me to do my thing before they can get started.

This last game has been interesting. Reminds me of WWII, with the Pacific and European theatres. Had an interesting geometry happening with that square shape on the queenside, too.

I am now abandoning the "starving Armenians:" K - QR6

[Weezard]

Rook X starving Armenian.
(He who would be queen)

Leaning on yer Paladin now.
I assume you'll proiect with the bishop and I'll eat another peasant, yah?:cool:
[attachment=o234884]
Muahahaha!

Wee (Romping rook) 'Zard

[Weezard]

and can you import a mac chess game??

Not easily.
I'm PC kine.
Can do linux though.

cause i can send it if that would help.. i can control both sides and save the log/export the game..
should make things easier i would imagine

Lot easier to keep track.
' specially if you live with wee beasties that don't play.
(They like to drop their stuffed toys on the board at critical junctures)
I hadda switch to a metal board with magnetic pieces.
Still take snapshots every 5 moves. 'cause I'm too lazy to keep re-playing from scratch.

and ya'll would have to instruct me on your notation i am only used to the standard notation system but yours seems valid too

:lol5::S2:
OK, now yer just yankin' us.

~MG


And when you say D4, are you refering to the 4th rank of the Queen's file?
Unless were playing battleship.
In which case you just sunk my destroyer.:D

You would call that square Q4.
I would call it Q5:)

Soon as we wind up da present game.
I'll answer with P - Q4.
(That's prolly D5?)
Put's the pawns toe to toe.
White has the considerable advantage of first move.
"If you wish an interesting game, play P- K4
If you wish to win, P - Q4."

Please ...
I think I can track both games at once now that I've run out of "magic cookies".:cool:

Aloha and have-at-you.
Weezard

[mainegrown]

the sides of the board with pieces are labeled a
'A'-'H' queen is on 'D' and king on 'E'
the other two sided are labeled '1'-'8'
both are set to white's side.. so QR is on 'A1' and KR is on 'H1'..
capishe??

~MG

[mainegrown]

here is the game so far along with notation explination..

~MG

[mainegrown]

Ng1-f3

with a pic to show what i mean.. i think you would call this N-KB3??
am i right?


and if i were only to seek a good game why would i play a person?
i want a FUN game..

~MG

[Weezard]

the sides of the board with pieces are labeled a
'A'-'H' queen is on 'D' and king on 'E'
the other two sided are labeled '1'-'8'
both are set to white's side.. so QR is on 'A1' and KR is on 'H1'..
capishe??

~MG

Comprende, Verstehen,
So, let's get to playin.

You use da "new math"
I'll take the old path.

Den we both learn somethin'
Copacetic?;)

You said P - D4.
I'll reply with P- Q4 (D5)
:cool:?

Aloha.
Tiny Reptilian, wit' bran' new skin.

Ah! There you are.
Kn - QB3 ( B8 - C6)

[mainegrown]

so the board would look like this?

i think i like your idea of notation..
so i shall join you in this notion
on the dark side we both shall be
the winner yet to see?

~MG


i would have to go with the classic nighttime defense..
hence ->

Kn-KB3
and your move would be?

[DreadedHermie]

N - QB3

Circle da wagons...

[Weezard]

@ MG
N - KB3

First "standard opening" I've played in quite a while.

W

[Weezard]

N - QB3

Circle da wagons...

R X P.
Hitch up da horses.

W.

[DreadedHermie]

P - QR5

[Weezard]

P - QR5

R X B
Now I no worry when I have to trade my bishop for your pawn
It's paid ahead.
Knight flight?

Weeze the scaly

[DreadedHermie]

N - Q2

[Weezard]

R - Q6
A surgical strike.
Then there's the Black Knight, chillin' inna corner.

[DreadedHermie]

N - K4 (gulp)

[Weezard]

R X P.
Schlurp!:D

[DreadedHermie]

Okay, I'm tappin' out. *gasp*

I did take your bishop on the way out.

I did want to see the mechanics of this (ignominious ruin / end game). Thanks for obliging.

Lotsa weird posts tonight. Mus' be lotta folks trapped inside in front of a warm CRT.

[Weezard]

Okay, I'm tappin' out. *gasp*

I did take your bishop on the way out.

I did want to see the mechanics of this (ignominious ruin / end game). Thanks for obliging.

Lotsa weird posts tonight. Mus' be lotta folks trapped inside in front of a warm CRT.

Not at all, The pleasure is mine.:)

I was tryin' to show how much damage one can do with a single knight but yer gettin' too good at this.
Got short circuited by your commanding bishop.
Should have swapped her out right away.

Any posts at all on a Saturday is surprising, lately.
I've been off cleaning house somust have missed it.

I jus' check occasionally to see if this thread posts.
Kinda lost interest in the rest of it.

'cept when I can help.
(Lack of patience, pearls, swine, yada yada).
Besides, with You and Sarah on the job, I'm seldom needed.
So, I lurk an' read, but mostly for entertainment.
(Got meds comin' out my ears. Gotta make hash tomorrow just to stay legal.):(;):D

Point me at it, who dares post weirder dan me?

Wee.

[DreadedHermie]

Point me at it, who dares post weirder dan me?
Nah, you learnt me better dan dat. Not gonna get catty, fun as it may be...:D

I've just read quite a few things tonight that made me think," Gee, I hope nobody's going to actually take that seriously." I'm just tweeked from biting my tongue. Sarcastic sometimes humor doesn't translate so well in a forum...I guess I'm mourning a few good set-ups I chose to let slip away 'un-punchlined.' :fish:


Besides, with You and Sarah on the job If nominated I will not run... (besides, I already have a job.) :D

P.s. Love the poster. :hippy:

[Weezard]

Nah, you learnt me better dan dat. Not gonna get catty, fun as it may be...:D

I've just read quite a few things tonight that made me think," Gee, I hope nobody's going to actually take that seriously.

Oh, you prolly read the "end o da world, shoot all da cops" rabidity thread.;)

Some folks should not own guns.
And they're usually the ones who do.:( - Weeze

" I'm just tweeked from biting my tongue. Sarcastic sometimes humor doesn't translate so well in a forum

Yeah, I think my "standard notation" quips went begging too.:)

...I guess I'm mourning a few good set-ups I chose to let slip away 'un-punchlined.' :fish:

LOL.

If nominated I will not run... (besides, I already have a job.) :D

Yeah, but what if you're elected?:D

P.s. Love the poster. :hippy:

"Hate the post, love the poster", it's the christian way.;):D

Unless you mean th PF poster.
Me too.
I was about 25 at the time and my "feet didn't touch the ground." (used ta walk barefoot in the snow and look right through people.)
30 years later, my nephew found the Floyd poster in the attic and printed it on T- shirts.
[attachment=o234982]
Then mailed them from Ohio to California as a surprise.
(I'm the :cool: Uncle).
He used a silkscreen and only printed 25 so they are quite rare.
I gave a half dozen to the ICU nurses at Stanford.
They earned 'em:icon220::angelsmiley:
Only have a few left, want one?

Aloha,
Unka Weeze

[Weezard]

Was ist das kampf?


Oops, sorry.

My world clock must be runnin' slow, I was shootin' for French.;)
Mais my French reeks.:( Took it in the 5th grade, didn't care for it. Word "gender" kept throwin' me.
I prefer pidgin. It's way more efficient.
(They had me at easy)


So, You gone bus out?
Bus out!
I no sked u.:rastasmoke:


so the board would look like this?

i think i like your idea of notation..
so i shall join you in this notion
on the dark side we both shall be
the winner yet to see?

~MG

:lol5: Good stuff!


i would have to go with the classic nighttime defense..
hence ->

Kn-KB3
and your move would be?


And still is;

"@ MG
N - KB3"

Guess ya missed it.
Too obscured by clouds?:stoned:

I'll try to be less cryptic.:yeahright:
No promises though.:jointsmile:


DH got me to using N. for Kn.
Easier, less cornfusin'
(He had me at easier):)

Aloha, Mon Ami

Wee Zard
[attachment=o235040]

[Weezard]

High, Hermie!

Just thought you'd enjoy the irony of my day's labor.

I was forced, by state law, to turn 4 Oz. of quality HI Homie III budz into 12.5g. of hash that I'll prolly have to keep in a sturdy cage.

I'm actually afraid to bioassay dis run.
Should prolly wait for da wife's return.
Tryin' dis kine ting when home alone could turn my li'l, green, butt inta dogfood, yah?

Actually, I did do a half hit from da 150 mesh bag.
Whew!
Howzit?
Well, see the previous post.:stoned::silly:

Now, it's getting very hrd to type.
Damn!
Keeps climbing.
Or sinking.
Semantics!:D
No, sinking.
Feels like 40 feet down in warm, breath-able, salt water.
Or a latex pressure suit.
Wow! I goota go.

Weeze has acheived lizardity!.

[DreadedHermie]

I was forced, by state law, to turn 4 Oz. of quality HI Homie III budz into 12.5g. of hash that I'll prolly have to keep in a sturdy cage.


That's like an 11% 'recovery'--pretty impressive IMO.

I do enjoy the actual smoking part, though. Halfa hit...gotta do dat stuff late in the day. Let the 'Mellanby effect' (sp?) augment our tolerance where enough get enough in ya to taste, smell, feel.... You wouldn't sample a fine vintage with an eyedropper. :D

The irony's not missed, but coercion generally creates some unwanted artifacts. In this case, it's stronger meds....:stoned:

[Weezard]

That's like an 11% 'recovery'--pretty impressive IMO.

I do enjoy the actual smoking part, though. Halfa hit...gotta do dat stuff late in the day. Let the 'Mellanby effect' (sp?) augment our tolerance where enough get enough in ya to taste, smell, feel.... You wouldn't sample a fine vintage with an eyedropper. :D

The irony's not missed, but coercion generally creates some unwanted artifacts. In this case, it's stronger meds....:stoned:

Prettier Too!:thumbsup:
As you will see, thanks to you;
[attachment=o235047]

100X of the 45mesh bag.

[attachment=o235048]

200X of the 75 mesh

[attachment=o235049]

200X touched-up

[attachment=o235050]

400X of the 45 mesh.

[attachment=o235051]

400X of the 75 mesh

Could be cleaner I suppose.
Now to call a friend and try the first water.

Aloha,

Wee (who are about to rock...)

[DreadedHermie]

I like that touched-up shot. Nice colors. (Prolly nicer for you, soon! :stoned:) Got out my eyeclops to check summa my last bubble (which is mostly concentrated vegetable slime from trim and even some fans). Musta bumped the power switch, 'cos a whole set of new Duracells was depleted. :(

[mainegrown]

hey you two know a bit about cloning right?

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

There's not that much to know.
Whuddaya need?

And it's your move.

Weeze

[mainegrown]

well i have a nice looking clone.. all green and shit.
and the roots are well developed.. but,
there is almost no growth on the vegetation..
i was wondering what is up with that?
i took the clone from a flowering gurl
stuck it in a peat cube.. then it hasnt done anything for
a couple weeks..
i was wondering how to make it GROW!

my move is P-QB3

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

well i have a nice looking clone.. all green and shit.

Green is good, but shit is roots only.
Remember, "Foilar feed, for shitty weed.":D

and the roots are well developed.. but,
there is almost no growth on the vegetation..
i was wondering what is up with that?
i took the clone from a flowering gurl
stuck it in a peat cube.. then it hasnt done anything for
a couple weeks..
i was wondering how to make it GROW!

Give it 24 hours of light and wait a couple more weeks.:)
It will have to reveg completely before it starts to grow.

If the roots are truely happy.
.
What's the run-off look like? PH, PPM, color, taste, smell?
I expect the PH to be too low.


my move is P-QB3

O I C that it should be P - QN3
Least that's what ya did onna pitter.
To which, I respond, P - K3
Mon Ami.

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


So there! :p

Weeze

[jamessr]

well i have a nice looking clone.. all green and shit.
and the roots are well developed.. but,
there is almost no growth on the vegetation..
i was wondering what is up with that?
i took the clone from a flowering gurl
stuck it in a peat cube.. then it hasnt done anything for
a couple weeks..
i was wondering how to make it GROW!

my move is P-QB3

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


Time brother, time is what your waiting for.... a flowering clone takes time to regenerate back into veg. state...hope this helps.;)

[mainegrown]

the runoff was clear.. idk the PH PPM or taste..
the roots are all hairy thick and white..
i believe that is healthy. correct me if i am wrong
what can i do to hurry up the revert?
i gave it a LIL fert (MG all purpose)
i know i have to give it time but HOW LONG?
right now it is under 2 40w tubes.. 6500k
is that enough? the other seedlings are WAY outgrowing the clone!
would it have done better in MG soil then in ProMix?
sorry bout the jack..

and back to the game..
what's the plan with that lil pawn?
you trying to scare the priest?
ya know he got faith on his side right? ;)
you have given me inspiration..
P-K3
(btw you were right :redface:)

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

the runoff was clear.. idk the PH PPM or taste..
the roots are all hairy thick and white..
i believe that is healthy. correct me if i am wrong
what can i do to hurry up the revert?

24/7 with the lights, n temps between 70 - 80F. n grow nutes, (not bloom nutes), n patience.

i gave it a LIL fert (MG all purpose)
i know i have to give it time but HOW LONG?
right now it is under 2 40w tubes.. 6500k
is that enough?

80W of 6500K should be jus' fine.

the other seedlings are WAY outgrowing the clone!

That is to be expected.

would it have done better in MG soil than in ProMix?
sorry bout the jack..

Ah dunno jack 'bout MG,or Promix.

Switched from soil, to DWC, to Coco.
Why?
:D(Hermies gonna love this;)
Here's why;
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Indica dom. Lemon Skunk twin clones.
Left one in a custom mixed soil, right one in Coco, both under leds.
They were "droopy" this morning so I took them out for inspection and watering.
Watered the dirty girl first, then took snaps in sunlight.
Then, back into veg.

The soil is mixed by a local grower who grows beauties with it under a 1KW HPS/sunlight.
I asked for a couple clones and a bucket of soil for a side by side.
I expected coco to win, but not by this much!

and back to the game..
what's the plan with that lil pawn?
you trying to scare the priest?
ya know he got faith on his side right? ;)


Plan? Plan!?
I don' got to show you no steenking plan.:D

I'm just playng a standard opening, so far.

A plan would be premature, (and, too much like work), for the next several moves.:(

you have given me inspiration..
P-K3

Not to mention the "Breath of life"!:)

(btw you were right :redface:)

Hello-o! "Stoner" chess.
It's expected.:cool:
Oh, and no can Jack 'cause nothing is "Off-topic" in stoner chess.

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


So, I'ma do,
P - K2
Den wait for you.

Alo Ha!
Alo -To give. Ha - the breath of life .

Wee, itty, 'zard

[Weezard]

I like that touched-up shot. Nice colors. (Prolly nicer for you, soon! :stoned:) Got out my eyeclops to check summa my last bubble (which is mostly concentrated vegetable slime from trim and even some fans). Musta bumped the power switch, 'cos a whole set of new Duracells was depleted. :(

Drat!
Just noticed that I mislabed the mesh size in one shot.
It's the nature of da meds, I tells ya..

I don't usually veg that big, but it's a test and I kept hoping the dirtygirl would catch up.
Pinched them both back a lot, the coco girl more-so.
And, of the 7 cuttings taken from each
Not one has popped a root.:wtf:
The Bubbledust clones on the same shelf root jus' fine?
Don't wanna put 'em in flower 'til I have some back-up, ya know?

[mainegrown]

To which, I respond, P - K3
Mon Ami.

Weeze



i think you are kinda medicated there.. how do your pawns go backwards?

Did you mean 'B' to K2??

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

i think you are kinda medicated there.

Good call

. how do your pawns go backwards?

Did you mean 'B' to K2??

Yes! Et vous?

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


And I'm not even red-faced.
Stoner chess

Weeze

[mainegrown]

lmao..
ok.. let me get the game and look it over,
i am slow..

stoner ya know?
and good to know what aloha means..
what does malaho mean?

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[mainegrown]

p-KN3

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

lmao..
ok.. let me get the game and look it over,
i am slow..

stoner ya know?
and good to know what aloha means..
what does malaho mean?

No Idea.
But Mahalo means
mah - thanks
alo - to give.:D
Ya stoner.

It's modified with
nui - very
Or
loa - long or lots
As in; Mahalo nui loa _ Thank you very much

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


Slow children at play
Weeze

[Weezard]

p-KN3

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


0 - 0
Castle, king's side.:cool:

Now ya know where, jus' gotta figger how.:)

Aloha nui
W.

[mainegrown]

da king is hiding in his hole.. how sad.
B-Q3
i wanna make him come to me

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

da king is hiding in his hole.. how sad.
B-Q3
i wanna make him come to me

I'd suggest, bribery.:cool:

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé



'iding in 'is 'ole?
Not so, bro.

Dat be 'otel California.
'tis heavily fortified and inwardly opulent.
"You can check out, anytime you like, but you can never leave"

You got's ta come get 'im.
Best bring a lunch.
Now, run away, before I taunt you again.;)

P - QR3
Ya gotta look, den you see.

Aloha,
Wee

[mainegrown]

well i may be blind,
and i cant see past the cloud in my living room,
so i will do in kind

Q-K2
come and get her..

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

well i may be blind,
and i cant see past the cloud in my living room,
so i will do in kind

Q-K2
come and get her..

No want dat landlocked Queen, got one of my own.;)

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


And, what's more,

P - QN4

Bold li'l sucka, or cannon fodder?
Your call.:D

A.
W.

[mainegrown]

P-QR4
he be fodder no more..

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

P-QR4
he be fodder no more..

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


Mudder maybe?

P - QN5?
Go home you naughty knight

That will add to my time lead.:cool:
Surprised that you let me do dat.
Mus' be part of a devious plan.

Weeze

[mainegrown]

N-QR2
what plan?? this is stoner chess..
and i didnt remember to hit the clock, huh.. :cool:
click.. your go,
bro

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[mainegrown]

what do you think the odds are that i could give my gurls a 'shower'?
you know throw em in the tub and turn on the overhead rain..?
would that hurt em at all?
i wanna flush em next watering and clean the plants down from any pollen they may have on them..
they are all kinda seeded up bad..
i have a new / better batch coming up ready for flower and i wanna run em thru the right way..
one plant per bucket.. and i have the right size buckets too now..
so how would a flush like that treat em gurls?
u could even let em dry with the houses heat up a ways.. the bathroom always get WAY warm :D
take a look and let me know what you think weez

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

N-QR2
what plan?? this is stoner chess..
and i didnt remember to hit the clock, huh.. :cool:
click.. your go,
bro

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


P - QR4
I can afford the tempo, and that binds up your queen's side.
You have the burden of the next move.
Then we'll analyze the positions.

Aloha
Weeze

[Weezard]

what do you think the odds are that i could give my gurls a 'shower'?

If yer water bill is current, roughly 100%;)

you know throw em in the tub and turn on the overhead rain..?
would that hurt em at all?

Might, could.

i wanna flush em next watering and clean the plants down from any pollen they may have on them..
they are all kinda seeded up bad..

Sounds like them dreaded hermies we keep hearin' about.;)

Mo' betta, a spray bottle and a fine mist.
It gets the undersides of the leaf an when pollen gets wet, it's immobilized and begins to decompose.
Be sure to wash down the walls of the grow room and remove and wash any fabrics or other porous surfaces too.


i have a new / better batch coming up ready for flower and i wanna run em thru the right way..
one plant per bucket.. and i have the right size buckets too now..
so how would a flush like that treat em gurls?
u could even let em dry with the houses heat up a ways.. the bathroom always get WAY warm :D

Warm. plus wet = mold n mildew.
I'd say, mist, then blow dry with warm, not hot, air.

take a look and let me know what you think weez

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


I keep my ripening girls out of the rain
Once seed has set there are too many places for water to get trapped and fester.
I learned these things the hard way.
You needent.:cool:

Aloha,
Wee 'zard

[mainegrown]

welcome to my lair..
you know it aint fair
if you come play with me
P-QB3


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

welcome to my lair..
you know it aint fair
if you come play with me
P-QB3


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


Oh, my goodness!
What to do?
How 'bout B - QN2
Et vous?

Double U.

[Weezard]

Funny, the above got posted. but didn't update my CP or kill da sig.

[mainegrown]

PxP

and ??

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

N X P
And...

[CapitalG]

ok weezard, i made it. i thought i'd have to wait a day or two before i could post but, i guess that's not the case. i really wanna switch over to leds but, with all these company selling these over priced units from china i figured i'd skip the middle man and just buy direct. i always figured i could but, i don't know anything about the spectrum's necessary for growing herb. this is the panel i want to get i just don't know what specifications to go with. this is the first 600w i came across on their website but, i'm sure there are other types if i look a little harder. i know you expertise is substantial, what wavelength and ratios would you suggest i specify when ordering a custom panel?

600W Grow Light - 2 - China Grow Light,Grow Lights,Grow Lighting in Rope Light (http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/foundfar/product-detailnquxgtILjPVQ/China-600W-Grow-Light-2.html)

[mainegrown]

the only real move..
NxN

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

the only real move..
NxN

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


B X N check!
Now it gets interesting.:cool:

Aloha and good morning.

Weeze

[Weezard]

E como mai brah. (Welcome)


ok weezard, i made it. i thought i'd have to wait a day or two before i could post but, i guess that's not the case. i really wanna switch over to leds but, with all these company selling these over priced units from china i figured i'd skip the middle man and just buy direct.

First, I need to ask, why LEDs?

I know you've done your homework.
But, if you live somewhere where energy is cheap, and you don't have heat issues, all that's left is the coolness factor.

Which is, after all, the most legitimate reason.:cool:

i always figured i could but, i don't know anything about the spectrum's necessary for growing herb. this is the panel i want to get i just don't know what specifications to go with. this is the first 600w i came across on their website but, i'm sure there are other types if i look a little harder.:) i know you expertise is substantial, what wavelength and ratios would you suggest i specify when ordering a custom panel?

660 nm. and ~460nm.


Second, I'd suggest avoiding that vendor.:mad:
Actually any vendor that claims 600W out of 576 1W. emitters, is just bursting with excrement!
Getting one honest Watt out of a 1 W. diode is very difficult without exceeding either the Vf. MAX or the I. Max.
So, for a safe and efficient design, we seldom see 80% of the rated max diss.

So, it's actually a bit less than 460 Watts. (Fans, power factor, etc.)

Moreover, my grow tests tell me that 1W. diodes just don't have the "point-source muscle" that weed needs.
My lights have evolved from 300. 10 mm. 20 degree, leds to 12. 15W. emitters. per panel over 3 years time.
I did not get fat buds from 1. and 3 W. emitters.:(
But my first array of 5W. 660nm. emitters impressed the hell out of me.:thumbsup:

Now, all a 15W. emitter is, is a die with 4. 5W. chips under one lens being under-driven to manage heat.
But, it's the concentration of those chips to a small area that approaches "point source" emission and starts to give us decent penetration.
As for the R:B ratio, that depends on the wavelengths and relative intensity, blah blah blah.
You can make a career out of "doing the math".
And, the ratio varies for veg and bloom, different strains, and ambient temps.
So, Ideally, the ratio should be adjustable.:cool:
Let the individual plants tell you what they want.

From excellent results, I've settled on an initial R:B of 5:1.
10. 660nm. red and 2. 460nm. blue (or "royal blue, the blue wavelength is not critical. )
That's "red heavy" which is great for building buds, but will cause stretch while vegging.
So, I inserted a dimmer for the reds, and trim them down for "short internode" vegging. Works a treat.

For fabrication instructions, you can "follow da bouncing ball" in Crunchy's thread.

"Calling out to Weezard for led advice".

Everything ya need to know to build a kick-ass light is in there.

Here, we talk about what you can do with the advantage of wavelength and ratio control.:stoned: Among other ramblings.

Actually, the "rambling are the best part.
There's a dark and brilliant humor to Hermies posts.
If you prefer silly, and off-the wall, I'm your 'zard.:rastasmoke:

Aloha,
Weezard




600W Grow Light - 2 - China Grow Light,Grow Lights,Grow Lighting in Rope Light (http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/foundfar/product-detailnquxgtILjPVQ/China-600W-Grow-Light-2.html)


Lemme look. um, no!
See above.

[mainegrown]

i may be a bit medicated.. and kinda tired but i swear i have a B between ur B and my K
here is an update pic for you bro..


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[mainegrown]

da king is hiding in his hole.. how sad.
B-Q3
i wanna make him come to me

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé



well this is a bad one for me.. that is supposed to be the black night not the white one..
move was gonna be B-Q2.. idk how that lil 3 snuck in there.. :jointsmile::stoned::D:D
i also dont know if i COULD have moved the white B there??


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

i may be a bit medicated.. and kinda tired but i swear i have a B between ur B and my K
here is an update pic for you bro..


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


So I went back to da beginning o da game.
and read through.
Can't find dat move B - Q2 anywhere.
Still, I is a stoner, might have missed it.
Yer jus gonna have to point me at it.
I was pretty sure that's how you would block the check.

Not that it matters.
In stoner chess winning is not the goal.
Fun's where the fare's at!
So, line up, sign up, and turn in your shoes.
You wannem dere, we leave him dere.:)
Alla same kine by me.:rastasmoke:

Aloha,
Weeze

[Weezard]

well this is a bad one for me.. that is supposed to be the black night not the white one..

Huh!?
Wait, what?

move was gonna be B-Q2.. idk how that lil 3 snuck in there.. :jointsmile::stoned::D:D
i also dont know if i COULD have moved the white B there??

Easy, B - Q3 then Q - K2.


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


And it's not at all bad for white.
That Bishop move cleared the back rank for casteling
and developed a piece.
Then the Q move developed another piece and linked with the bishop to dominate the queen's side.
Now an interpose by the black bishop develops another piece for you. and I give up some tempo for position.
So, whuddaya wanna do?

Dub L. U.

[mainegrown]

must be so.. but let me adjust the board tho..
it will take a bit.. so im gonna have a sit..
smoke a bowl.. and plug that hole


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

Take yer time my cyber friend.
I gotta go be a citizen.

Property owners B. O. D.
Takes my time an all fo' free.

Wee.

[Weezard]

Jus' bumpin' around waitin' for your move.:jointsmile:

W.

[mainegrown]

is this the board as you have it?

board

[Weezard]

is this the board as you have it?

board

Not at all, but it's acceptable.:D

P X N
W

[mainegrown]

so i followed the game from beginning to current and this should mesh up nicely..

my move is B-Q2.. to block the check.
now your next

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[mainegrown]

btw what is the code and how do i link pics into the post? so i dont have to have a ton of attachments?


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

so i followed the game from beginning to current and this should mesh up nicely..

my move is B-Q2.. to block the check.
now your next

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


Yup! That's what I had.
And as I said, it's good positioning for you.

Hmmm, what to do?
I know!
Q - Q3

Aloha,
Weeze

[mainegrown]

oh my, what to do?
move my queen too?
naw.. im not such a foo'
i think N-KN5
we will see if he remains alive



~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

btw what is the code and how do i link pics into the post? so i dont have to have a ton of attachments?


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


Not sure I understand the question.
But.
To post a pic in a post, click da 'clip.
Choose a browse box.
Navigate yer H.D.
Pick, da pic.
Den maybe do again til ya run outta browse boxes.
Den click upload.
Den wait.

Place yer cursor in da place where you wish to place da pic.
Click da 'clip <reprise>
Pick da pic you want ta be dere in dat place.
Den click dat pics title.
Et voila.

'Zat what ya wanted?

Aloha,
Weeze

[Weezard]

oh my, what to do?
move my queen too?
naw.. im not such a foo'
i think N-KN5
we will see if he remains alive




~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


KRP - KR3

Aroint! Ye silly kanigget.

[mainegrown]

KRP - KR3

Aroint! Ye silly kanigget.


http://boards.cannabis.com/members/mainegrown-albums-chess-vs-weez-picture3825-picture-4.png



and my move is B-KR7
the priest wants to go to heaven

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

http://boards.cannabis.com/members/mainegrown-albums-chess-vs-weez-picture3825-picture-4.png



and my move is B-KR7
the priest wants to go to heaven

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


.
N X B
Glad to help.

W.

[mainegrown]

want a knight too?
p-KR4
sorry to be a bore ;)
but you cant have more :D


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[mainegrown]

and i am liking this whole cloning deal..
fun and easy..
cheap too..
i figure at 11 cents a clone how can i beat this game?
i am told i will soon have too many clones but i am prepared for this..
i have a compost bin, you see?
i got a question for ya
what grows faster.. clone or seedling?
cause my lil clone is now keeping up/ surpassing the seedlings that are about the same age by a lil bit now..
just curious cause i have the feeling it is just the plant it came from.. she is 50% + bigger then the rest in sheer plant mass and bud mass 200% of any other gurl..
she seems to be a keeper so i cut a stem off and stuck it in a peat cube..
it took root and is off to the races..
just some thoughts
sorry i am celebrating the 21st b-day a lil early.. :D


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

want a knight too?
p-KR4
sorry to be a bore ;)
but you cant have more :D


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


Berry nice!

But, no thanks.
N -KB3
Just not a greedy type.;)
But the Priest was tasty.:jointsmile:
Mahalo!

W.

[Weezard]

'Slate.
G'night.

W.

[mainegrown]

Y'll have a good'un right
take care
mahalo
bro

[CapitalG]

E como mai brah. (Welcome)




Lemme look. um, no!
See above.

thank you for the welcome my friend. the info you gave me was very enlightening. i feel like my led IQ has went up 100 points. yea, i think leds are just cool and they seem to be the new thing so, i just want it because, it's new. i'm not that good at building stuff like this. i'm more of a number cruncher so, i could make a living off of doing the math. i would like to do a side by side with my 600w hps to see what is what. when i talked to them i asked about 3w leds but, now i'm going to ask if i can 5w or higher. i'm pretty sure all the led companies with the overpriced units are getting them from this place so, i should be good. do you use white leds?

[Weezard]

" do you use white leds? "

Yes.
For flashlights.:)
They are jus' peachy for illumination.:cool:
As grow lights, they leave much to be desired.

The ones that use phosphors are almost useless as grow lights. (A look at the spectral curve may prove illuminating.) ;)

And the R.G.B. kine, grow just as well with just the R. n B. and no G., see?
So, If I put the power that is wasted on G. into producing more R. right around 652 - 657 nm., I am a-head by several centimeters and a ninth of a furlong.:D.

Seriously, you are better off with CFLs if you wish to use "white" light.
They are actually more cost effective than white leds, all costs tallied.
Unless, of course, I'm completely wrong about that.:stoned::D


Aloha
Weezard

[Weezard]

Aloha, MG

(Guess you are used to people losing sight of long term goals for short term gains, yah?:))

No worry.
Jus' goto yer plan B.
I'm keen to see,
what you have,
in store for me.

Burma shave.:)

[007greenfinger]

reckon your a weezard do ya , tell me this my friend.... a friend recently took some clones from a garenteed female that was in the early stages of flowering since then they have all pulled through, result!, the trouble is since then he found out that the plant he took the clones from had been contaminated by a stray hemephradite, wats the crack with cuttings , you think they will naff????

[mainegrown]

sometimes i may.. but that is my age
you never do? or are you a sage

im gonna move the page
p-K4

so now do you know what i have in store?
(hopefully not no more) :D
~MG

[Weezard]

Meanie!;)
B X B
Check!

Wee 'zard

[Weezard]

reckon your a weezard do ya ,

Only 'cause I'm small, green, got sticky fingers and I shed my skin every few years.
[attachment=o235592]

tell me this my friend.... a friend recently took some clones from a garenteed female that was in the early stages of flowering since then they have all pulled through, result!, the trouble is since then he found out that the plant he took the clones from had been contaminated by a stray hermaphrodite, whats the crack with cuttings , you think they will naff????

Your guess is as good as mine, brah.
Wee 'zards dunno.
What yer lookin' for here is a Wizz Hard.:D

Aloha,
Wee

[mainegrown]

QxB..
its just gotta be.
you see?∞

[Weezard]

QxB..
its just gotta be.
you see?∞


P X N
A'ight?

Weeze-lite

[mainegrown]

PxP..
now you brah.
~MG (21 now btw) :thumbsup:

[Weezard]

N X KP
En guard!

W

[mainegrown]

q-KB4
i dont know what you plan no more.. :(
~MG

[Weezard]

q-KB4
i dont know what you plan no more.. :(
~MG


Plan?
Hello-o!
Stoner chess.

Now, lemme see, how does one exploit a 6 point material advantage?
Well, by elimination, of course.
Q X Q

P X Q ?

Then P - QB4
'sgood for you too?

Da 'zard guy.

[Weezard]

Happy birthday, brah!:thumbsup:

I liked turning 21.
All three times!:D

Aloha,
Vgol.
(Vintage Gentleman Of Leisure)

[mainegrown]

thats all good..
could you tell my next move too?
p-QB5

[Weezard]

thats all good..
could you tell my next move too?
p-QB5

Could have done, but did not wish to presume.:D

N X P @ my QB4.
Und Sie?

Wee

[Weezard]

Yo! MG.
Where you be?


Wee

[mainegrown]

in a daze
or maybe a haze
but it feels like a maze
celebrating the 21st
makes my head feel the worst
gotta take care of the thirst
ya feel me?
i think it will be
a few days free
im sorry my man.
~MG

[BlueBlazer]

Happy 21st MG. :thumbsup:

[Weezard]

Happy 21st MG. :thumbsup:


Howzit BB?
Wanna play?

Yup, da whole universe is flat-out, batshit, crazy.
Everyone, that is, 'cept you an' me.
An' I'm not so sure about me.:D

"To gather all of these fnords in our memory's hoards.
Then use them, to help us, to find..."
Muahahaha!

Weeze

[BlueBlazer]

Howzit BB?
Wanna play?

Yup, da whole universe is flat-out, batshit, crazy.
Everyone, that is, 'cept you an' me.
An' I'm not so sure about me.:D

"To gather all of these fnords in our memory's hoards.
Then use them, to help us, to find..."
Muahahaha!

Weeze

A game of chess eh? Can we use my special loaded pieces? :eek:

Would this be three dimensional chess like Spock used the prove the Enterprise was insane?!? :wtf:

Or just regular like Fisher used to drive someone Spassky?


Perhaps. I'd need some help as I've never played using move notations, and I'm not sure how yours work. Plus, I'm pretty sure you'd make short work of this pretender. I'm willing to try once y'all are done though. :D

[mainegrown]

R-QB..
go away you mean knight..
the zard may have the might
but i will fight!
~MG

[mainegrown]

so ye powerful wee-zard (but now a whiz-ard ;) )
if a clone is still alive after a few days..
does that make em A-OK?
if they are kinda droopy..
and this makes me really loopy!
will they pull through??
if only i knew :(
~MG

[Weezard]

so ye powerful wee-zard (but now a whiz-ard ;) )
if a clone is still alive after a few days..
does that make em A-OK?
if they are kinda droopy..
and this makes me really loopy!
will they pull through??
if only i knew :(

If you had a picture, we might have a clue.:)
~MG


No feel loopy, no get blue
Dey, will do,
what dey will do.
Soon as Horton hears a Who.
What Wee says 3 times, is true.

[Weezard]

R-QB..
go away you mean knight..
the zard may have the might
but i will fight!
~MG

'snot about might atall.
It's about exploiting strengths, and position.

Posted the preceeding doggerel to give you time to re-consider that suicide move by da kamakazi rook.:wtf:


Ah well, it will be a good learning experience for ya,
Youth and strength are still no match for age and treachery.:D
In this case, a cruel, but very:cool:, forking.

N - Q6 Check!

Wins a rook.:thumbsup:

Still hungover, 'ey?

Aloha,
Wee

[mainegrown]

ouch..
ya may be right on that ung'over count..
oh well..
count the losses and move K-Q2..
~MG

[Weezard]

ouch..
ya may be right on that ung'over count..
oh well..
count the losses and move K-Q2..
~MG



Had you moved K to Q1, I'd have snatched a pawn and a rook.
Not a bad trade for black either way, so;
N X R
Gotta assume K X N
Which is rapidly answered with
KR - QB1 Check!

Next, da bishop will slice n dice.
(It won't be pretty, she don't play nice.)

Wee.

[mainegrown]

here are the clones i was talking about..
cut and stuck on the 14th

[mainegrown]

K-Q2
all i can do.. :(

[Weezard]

K-Q2
all i can do.. :(


P - Q5
Attack by discovery.

And the cuttings look jus' fine.:thumbsup:

Da Wee

[mainegrown]

sneaky sneaky priest..
trying to convert my rook
so R-KN..
(he's gonna run away)
and thanks for the :thumbsup: always good to make sure!!
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[Weezard]

sneaky sneaky priest..
trying to convert my rook
so R-KN..
(he's gonna run away)
and thanks for the :thumbsup: always good to make sure!!
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


B - Q4
Enters the killing field.
Just to be annoying.;)
Time to clear a path to the 8th rank?

W.

Weeze

[Weezard]

Aloha MG

It's been 3 days and change now.
Looks like you've lost interest in the game.
Ah well, stoner chess is not everyone's passion.

How about if I jus' resign. :(
You can chalk it up as a win and play the next challenger, yah?:rastasmoke:.

a hui hou.

Weezard

[MerryPrankstr]

Hey Weez !
Been away for a bit.
ICMag time, ya think?
See ya there if so.
M.P.

[Weezard]

High, Hermie!

Found out dat Ms. 'Zark spaced the Plumeria.:mad:
Took it to N.C. in her suitcase.
Humph!
Not surprised though, all things considered.

Went in the mail yesterday with her apology.
Should arrive by tomorrow.

Wish I could say the same about her.
Gonna be another month.
Hope you're enjoying the w*rk.
I miss your quick witt and snappy chatter.:D

Aloha
Wee.

"Silent, sad, bereft of reason."

[Weezard]

A game of chess eh? Can we use my special loaded pieces? :eek:

Tchoor! Load a pipe while we're at it.

Would this be three dimensional chess like Spock used the prove the Enterprise was insane?!? :wtf:

Or just regular like Fisher used to drive someone Spassky?

Good one!:)

Actually it's quite irregular. ;):stoned:

Perhaps. I'd need some help as I've never played using move notations, and I'm not sure how yours work. Plus, I'm pretty sure you'd make short work, (there's no call for 4 letter words here.;)) of this pretender. I'm willing to try once y'all are done though. :D

(Hint: I sometimes pulls me punches to keep it interesting.)

Win/lose Ainokea! "The play's the thing"
It's the entertaining side banter that I really enjoy .
D.H. is a rare treat.
He's edgy and droll, and often deep.
Got a George Burns/Redd Fox flavor to it.

Lost a friend recently.
Was gettin a li'l down over it.:(
Re-read this thread.
Helped a lot.:thumbsup:
Laughter be da bes' medicine.
Weed be a close second.:cool:


So, what's yer pleasue?

Weezard

[Weezard]

Hey Weez !
Been away for a bit.
ICMag time, ya think?
See ya there if so.
M.P.

Beeg Aloha MP.

IC? If ya don't mind a vendor/mod editing other peoples posts.
I was censored! :wtf:
I still hang there, but it is no longer possible share REAL led information there.
The main merchant is running the show now.
When facts annoy, facts lose.
Ah, well, when I can pay their nut, I'll bitch about it.
For now. I just shake my head.
Then come hang out here.

Whutcha got growin' brah?

Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

Hey, I been lurking. I logged out so I wouldn't be tempted to waste time weighing in on all the threads-by-troll posts lately. Swamped doesn't say it. My data is crashing all around me. Last project with this OS, but gotta attend school some to learn the new one for summer. (Makes Photoshop look like a "Light" version of something...)

Anyway, received a pickle-looking thing in the mail today. :D What appears to be the "down" end is a bit skinned over. Does that end to to be re-cut, or just stick it in soil/lava?


I still hang there, but it is no longer possible share REAL led information there.
The main merchant is running the show now.
When facts annoy, facts lose.
Ah, well, when I can pay their nut, I'll bitch about it.


True dat. Whatever misguided philanthropists are underwriting the bandwidths of these respective sites must have profit-making agendas (albeit well-hidden, or ineptly promoted...)

Looks like a run on "How to make $$ being a successful MJ entrepreneur / dispensary operator" seminars is up next. Later, widespread decriminalization will NOT help 'UFO' sales, as the stealth factor won't be important. Ledgurl will prolly be stuck with some floor samples. :pimp:

I'll e ya when I get time.

[Weezard]

Hey, I been lurking. I logged out so I wouldn't be tempted to waste time weighing in on all the threads-by-troll posts lately. Swamped doesn't say it. My data is crashing all around me. Last project with this OS, but gotta attend school some to learn the new one for summer. (Makes Photoshop look like a "Light" version of something...)

Anyway, received a pickle-looking thing in the mail today. :D What appears to be the "down" end is a bit skinned over. Does that end to to be re-cut, or just stick it in soil/lava?

That's spoda be there.
Seals in the moisture
Jus poke it inna medium and keep it warm and moist, but not overly wet.
Temps under 60 F. will kill it once it roots.
each color has a distinctive scent.
I'm sure you'll like this one.

True dat. Whatever misguided philanthropists are underwriting the bandwidths of these respective sites must have profit-making agendas (albeit well-hidden, or ineptly promoted...)

Looks like a run on "How to make $$ being a successful MJ entrepreneur / dispensary operator" seminars is up next. Later, widespread decriminalization will NOT help 'UFO' sales, as the stealth factor won't be important. Ledgurl will prolly be stuck with some floor samples. :pimp:

Might be why he's being such a dick.
Runnin' scared as legalization looms.
Why'd I say he?
'cause real women don't have PMS everyday! :D

I'll e ya when I get time.

Just harvested a couple hundred seeds.
Don't know their character, yet.
But when I finished makin' bubble hash, I left the budball in the bag waiting on the ice to melt and the bag to drain.
Forgot it for a day.
The next morning I got out the Eyeclops to look for un-gleaned wealth. (Fat chance with a 10.8% yeild).

When I split the ball open it was filled with sprouts!:)
Talk about a party favor!:cool:
I took 5 of them and put them in clean coco in a 4" pot.
I was very careful and there were exactly 5.
One in each corner and one in the middle.

But, now there's 6 seedlings!:wtf:

The roots had just made their 90s so they went in "the right way down" and they popped up and threw their shells easily the very next day.:thumbsup:

Don't really have room, or the need, but I gotta know their nature, so...


Think I'll transplant all 6 en-mass into a 8" square pot full of coco and drop that into a 6 ga. DWC bucket. Then just leave it onna lanai an' see what we get.
Fast as these pups is growin', they might all be males.:(
That'd be good too.
Male plant hash is very low yeild, but quite potent!

And since they are from a "light stressed" hermie, they should be secure in their sexuality if I don't annoy them.

When I saw that the neighbors had started leaving their porch light on again, I expected a little trouble.

What surprized the hell outta me was the pattern.
Only the bottom branches popped nanners and I did have some screening, (reflectix), but the wind had lifted the bottom 2' and exposed only the bottom-most branches to the "extra" light.
Those were the only ones to got nanners!!
I didn't think it worked that way.

Thought light stress would have a more global effect.
Next indoor flowering, I'm planning to fashion an "isolation bag"
I'll use it to illuminate a single branch, rudely and often.
Be nice to make some good pollen and still harvest the rest of the plant.

TANSTAAFL though, so I expect to see the whole plant go into senescence as soon as the one branch pops pollen.
Same way a female does when you only pollinate one bud.
(Once they are safely married and preggers. they tend to let themselves, um, go to seed);)

But, if I wait until the buds swell some before I start :weedpoke: it with me light sabre, it might be a good way to get some feminized pollen without ruining a harvest.
Whuddaya think?


Aloha,
Weeze

[MerryPrankstr]

IC? If ya don't mind a vendor/mod editing other peoples posts.
I was censored!
I still hang there, but it is no longer possible share REAL led information there.
The main merchant is running the show now.
When facts annoy, facts lose.
Ah, well, when I can pay their nut, I'll bitch about it.
For now. I just shake my head.
Then come hang out here.

The devil you say!
Whod've thunk it, Weeze...
Oh Well, no place like home.



Whutcha got growin' brah?

Just Lowered the PPM in the Laughing Buddha to 350 this last Tuesday. About a week ot two to go. It's five foot tall and fills the tent.

Next grow I'm choosing between 4 10 packs of Reservoir Seeds selections:
Chemdog IX III, Strawberry Diesel, Ultimate Strawberry Kush and 4SD.

Any suggestions?

Hey now D.H. ! I see you lurking there. ;)

M.P.

[BlueBlazer]

(Hint: I sometimes pulls me punches to keep it interesting.)

You never know, I may be a ringer . . . or hear a ringer . . . or score a ringer . . . or that ringing I hear may be in my ears from that punch you didn't pull ;)

Win/lose Ainokea! "The play's the thing"
It's the entertaining side banter that I really enjoy .
D.H. is a rare treat.
He's edgy and droll, and often deep.
Got a George Burns/Redd Fox flavor to it.

DH is indeed a humorous individual. I have learned the hard way to refrain from sipping my coffee whilst reading his posts. :D

Lost a friend recently.
Was gettin a li'l down over it.:(
Re-read this thread.
Helped a lot.:thumbsup:
Laughter be da bes' medicine.
Weed be a close second.:cool:

Sorry about your friend. I hate saying goodbye to folks that mean a lot to me. :(


So, what's yer pleasue?

Well now . . . that's what she said. :D
When I woke up my wallet was empty and she was gone . . .

Actually, I'd just enjoy chatting with y'all if you don't mind me barging in. These days I have a hard time bending my mind to chess.

I taught my youngest to play when he was little and I was a pretty good player. Throughout his life with us, he could never beat me. A couple of years back, we played for the first time in years. He made short censored of me and I realized I just couldn't care enough to concentrate and play the game I'm capable of.



Weezard

Plus, the sticky I'm smoking now makes it challenging to play Find Your Foot sometimes . . . :stoned:

Blue

[Weezard]

"He made short censored of me"
Mahlo fo' da clean up.
Dat wor* spooks me.. ;)

No worry brah, you are welcome to jus' hang out .
I'm sure you've met/read Merry P., n MG, n Headshake, n Horseman, n all.
If yer into "swattin' flies, swappin' lies, n firin' the odd shot here n there," you'll like it onna lanai.

Da Hawaiian Inebriatti are a lot more fun dan a mensa picnic and twice as high.
So welcome aboard, dere's homebrew inna fridge, make yer self to home.
I gotta go nourish da beasts.
Back soon.
Smoke 'em if ya gottem.

Wee (I blame the side effects) 'zard

[BlueBlazer]

Thanks Weeze, but I think I grabbed the wrong bottle of home brew . . . tasted like bong water and now I'm blind in one eye.

Fortunately I have another one handy. :D

[Weezard]

Thanks Weeze, but I think I grabbed the wrong bottle of home brew . . . tasted like bong water and now I'm blind in one eye.

Fortunately I have another one handy. :D

Which;)? Bottle, or eye?

An' dat was a 'speriment you drank.
Green dragon tinctured with moonshine, an infused inna brewski.
Been dere for weeks, been afraid to test it with the wife at large, (got hungry dogs), can't afford to go comatose.

Hey guys, I jus' had one o dose stoner 'deas.:thumbsup:

The pipes were almost clogged shut an' were gettin' foul smellin', and I'm no less lazy dan yesterday.
What to do?:(

Aha! Consternation turned to elucidation!
I need a machine, says I!

I usually start with hot running water from the tap, then alcohol and salt, then bent-up pipe cleaners and a lot of noodling, then alcohol again.
Rinse, lather, repeat. Feh!

Now me toolz look bran, spankin' new for much less time and effort.
[attachment=o236133]
And the secret?!
No biggie really.

[attachment=o236134]
I fill it with hot water and have some fun.
Then put da pipe inna quart ziplock w/ iso an' salt.
(Don't even need the salt anymore)
Just used plain rubbing alcohol this time.
Shake for a while and rinse out with the W.P.
Easiest, most thorough job yet.

Enjoy.
Weeze

[BlueBlazer]

Which;)? Bottle, or eye?

Both! :thumbsup:


An' dat was a 'speriment you drank.
Green dragon tinctured with moonshine, an infused inna brewski.
Been dere for weeks, been afraid to test it with the wife at large, (got hungry dogs), can't afford to go comatose.

Well it didn't cure my cottonmouth, but after a while I forgot what cottonmouth was . . . Also right now I'm more concerned with how the floor got so close to my face all of a sudden.

[Weezard]

Both! :thumbsup:



Well it didn't cure my cottonmouth, but after a while I forgot what cottonmouth was . . . Also right now I'm more concerned with how the floor got so close to my face all of a sudden.

Pay it no mind, brah.
You a'ight.
It's appears to be a mexican jumping floor.
Does dat to me alla time.

Dat's why we hang onna lanai.
We screwed the lanai down ourselves, it pretty much stays put.;)
When I break out da scary jars, we lay down firs'!
Saves time n teeth, yah?:D.

alo ha
Wee 'zard

PS
'bout to get weird up in here,:stoned: I'm eyin' da hash.

[BlueBlazer]

Pay it no mind, brah.
You a'ight.
It's appears to be a mexican jumping floor.
Does dat to me alla time.

So if I eat some mexican jumping bean salad, that should give me some equilibrium ya?


Dat's why we hang onna lanai.
We screwed the lanai down ourselves, it pretty much stays put.;)
When I break out da scary jars, we lay down firs'!
Saves time n teeth, yah?:D.

I'm thinking of having an operation to get metal teeth . . . it's risky but it's worth it! I'm kind of short on cash so I just wrapped my teeth with tin foil to hold me over . . . :rastabanna:

[Weezard]

So if I eat some mexican jumping bean salad, that should give me some equilibrium ya?

Only if it's in-phase.

An' ya gotta start by synchronizing the beans.:(
(Shirley, you've herd of Katz)
All together now.:D

Mo' EZ to jus' lay down, brah.:rastasmoke:

I'm thinking of having an operation to get metal teeth . . . it's risky but it's worth it! I'm kind of short on cash so I just wrapped my teeth with tin foil to hold me over . . . :rastabanna:

Dude! Your banana is much too happy.
Jus' my opinion.
Weeze

[BlueBlazer]

Dude! Your banana is much too happy.
Jus' my opinion.
Weeze


I get that a lot . . . :cool:

[Weezard]

I get that a lot . . . :cool:


[attachment=o236160] is an illusion.:stoned:

and, [attachment=o236160] is right!

1st, make sure your wig is tight.
Rip dat bong wit all yer might.

Dat's all I had ta say.

Good night.:D


Burma Shave

[BlueBlazer]

An' ya gotta start by synchronizing the beans.

Once, some friends and I played In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida with butt tubas . . . does that count?!? :what:

[mainegrown]

hey weeze..
when you speak about feeling like a 'zard.. do you men tha' feelin' that ya' get when ya look a' tha snake and he is just a lump, sittin there like a chump, feeling like a stump,.. waiting for his skin to shed? waiting for the loss from tail ta head..
is that the feeling of 'zard cause if it is then i am there.. the brownies an smoking.. well i dont really feel the need ta move so much.. ya feel me brah?
hope you have a nice lil vacation from our game.. i am gonna have to shelve it till i stop medicating my self into a stoupor wit the peeps..

[Weezard]

hey weeze..
when you speak about feeling like a 'zard.. do you men tha' feelin' that ya' get when ya look a' tha snake and he is just a lump, sittin there like a chump, feeling like a stump,.. waiting for his skin to shed? waiting for the loss from tail ta head..
is that the feeling of 'zard cause if it is then i am there.. the brownies an smoking.. well i dont really feel the need ta move so much.. ya feel me brah?


Zachary!
But yer a bit l8 m8.
Just finished shedding my skin ag'in.
It 'urts like 'ell.:( if you were wondering.

On the up side, I got new skin.
Claw to claw and fin to fin.
I'll drop my drawers, and take a bow:S3:
Cause I'm all fresh and shiney now.:)

hope you have a nice lil vacation from our game.. i am gonna have to shelve it till i stop medicating my self into a stoupor wit the peeps..

Then there's the harvest fingers syndrome.
After the first few buds get trimmed, if it's good bud, one can lift a pint of water with one finger/walk up the wall, und so wieter.
Love them, "Of't to be the lizard, the thunderfucked wee 'zard at odds" , times.:stoned::D

Like I said, chalk da game up as a win, (It'll give ya false confidence for our next game, which I will then exploit, yah?):D

Meanwhile, I applaud your lumpdom. :stoned:
Kind-of a mini-vacation fo da mind.:rastasmoke:

Holla when ya surface.

Wee, T90, 'zard
[attachment=o236213]

[Weezard]

[/I]
Once, some friends and I played In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida with butt tubas . . . does that count?!? :what:

Not roun' cheer it don't!
We don't cotton to no brass bonding!
:wtf3::wtf:

The re-tail re-sale onna B. T.s must suck!


Butt,
Good luck.


W.Z.

[BlueBlazer]

The re-tail re-sale onna B. T.s must suck!

Actually, it blows. **Rimshot**

Thank you ladies and germs . . . :D

[MerryPrankstr]

I went back at took a look at he LED Forum @ ICMag and see where your coming from. No more to be said.

I thought I'd post a pic of a bud from the Laughing Buddha just a few days before harvest.

[attachment=o236420]

Later,
M.P.

[Weezard]

I went back at took a look at he LED Forum @ ICMag and see where your coming from. No more to be said.

I thought I'd post a pic of a bud from the Laughing Buddha just a few days before harvest.

[attachment=o236420]

Later,
M.P.

Nice chirruns ya got dere brah!
Mayhap I can return the favor with a smile.
[attachment=o236421]

Yah?
Nevah should have let dis stuff outta da cage..
Be a while 'til I can take a stab seeming articulate.
Really very haaard to even type nonsense.
I shall return!
:stoned:
Wooze

[MerryPrankstr]

Sorry to write in prose, but I'm not flowing with the poetry at present.

That hash looks great! Not legal to make concentrates in my state or I would consider doing it as well.

12+ weeks of C. Sativa flowering is too long (LB); back to the poly-hybrids for me!

It was a fun experiment, for what it's worth. It seemed to flower quite nicely after I changed the day/night ratio to 11/13 as suggested by a breeder friend although your suggestion about far red is interesting. Changing nutes to GH so as to elmimnate the N in the part A. (D0H!!!) I can get away with it in the Chemdog varieties since they like it in flowering, but it may be confusing some varieties at veg/flower changeover.

M.P.

[DreadedHermie]

Nice pics, guys. :hippy:

[Weezard]

Nice pics, guys. :hippy:

Thanks!
I li'l bird told me you were about ready for a game.
Anytime.
I flipped a coin, you won first move.:)

Kinda wuthless tonight though, got into the right/wrong jar again.:stoned:

Lolagal talked me into ordering my first bong.
[attachment=o237043]
Hers is a real looker;
[attachment=o237044]
It's cheaper to pay shipping from Washington State than it is to drive to the nearest headshop at 20 mpg.
And the prices are good enough to worry me.
About half what our "local" shop charges.

So, let's play while I wait for the mail guy.:)

Alo ha
Wee zard

[DreadedHermie]

I usta make "water pipes" outta lab glassware: Erlenmeyer flask, 2-hole stopper, thistle tube....worked better than the commercial offerings at the time. Haven't used one since. I remember jus'about gagging up a lung when I'd forgot to clear off the the leftover humid smoke in the flask. The popular design now has that big column of smoke right at the "user interface," prolly safer from a gag hazard standpoint. That 'column' was generally some kinda plexi back then.

I glance at the bongs whenever I go to the local headshop to ransack their "$1 scratch-and-dent rolling paper" fishbowl. But it seems like they're all $300, and though I'm not exactly clumsy... it's more like I put things in places, and then try and put another solid object (like my arm) into that same space, having forgotten about the first object. :tin foil hat: Probably not a wise investment for me. Hard to hide on yer person, too. One enormous bulge in my clothing draws enough attention on its own. :pimp:

*slight subject change to "regular" pipes*
But I was gonna ask you, because I haven't smoked out of a glass pipe in years. I've got a little copper/brass pipe I made outta propane fittings many years ago. I think I A/B'ed it against a glass piece back then and decided the glass pipe was harsher/hotter. Does that make sense? I may have made another incorrect generalization. Seems like glass pipes are vastly more popular now. Is it just the esthetics? ('Cos I'm this close to buying another tubing flarer and make a few of these metal pipes. See if the shops want to sell 'em.)

Lemme go scout up an opening move, and see if I want an 'interesting game,' or for it to be 'in its death throes' after the first move.

And I checked out the thread at IC, but it had been so long since I'd seen it I don't know what was missing. If it pissed someone off that much (probably just jeopardized a sale) you should repost the offending facts here. :D

BRB with a move....

[DreadedHermie]

N - KB3 :smokin:

[Weezard]

N - KB3 :smokin:


Yipee!:)
N - QB3
For me.
BRB

Wee

[Weezard]

I usta make "water pipes" outta lab glassware: Erlenmeyer flask, 2-hole stopper, thistle tube....worked better than the commercial offerings at the time. Haven't used one since. I remember jus'about gagging up a lung when I'd forgot to clear off the the leftover humid smoke in the flask. The popular design now has that big column of smoke right at the "user interface," prolly safer from a gag hazard standpoint. That 'column' was generally some kinda plexi back then.

Nevah used one!
Got a beard and dem ol' kinebong can really stink up a moustash.
I did make one out of a baby food jar with a telescoping mouthpiece fashioned from a transistor radio antenna.
I'd cut and fray the end of a piece of zipcord and use it to punch 25 holes per poke in an aluminum foil bowl which made a quick and dirty, single use screen.
(Yeah, I know, but it's all I had at the time).
I was a political prisoner in durance vile.:(
That pipe lived through many "shakedowns".:)
\
Each "dorm" had a public address speaker that was used as a microphone at night. They made good mikes, but lousy speakers. Too damn loud.
I took mine down during the day and installed a fader so I could turn it down in the mornings and sleep in.:rastasmoke:
That also let me mute the microphone function at night:cool:.
I kept my waterpipe inside the speaker housing.

It might still be there.:D

I glance at the bongs whenever I go to the local headshop to ransack their "$1 scratch-and-dent rolling paper" fishbowl. But it seems like they're all $300, and though I'm not exactly clumsy... it's more like I put things in places, and then try and put another solid object (like my arm) into that same space, having forgotten about the first object. :tin foil hat: Probably not a wise investment for me. Hard to hide on yer person, too. One enormous bulge in my clothing draws enough attention on its own. :pimp:

Had the same take on it. Plus, I'm frugal.
The really thick, large, good quality, very hard to break kine are all $300.
At the shop.
No way!
And, hard to hide and explain when found, yah?
Now, ainokea, I can bong out on my front deck.
And Lolagal turned me on to some amazing prices for quality items.
$250 digital vape for $ 70.
$280 bong for $119
Them super thick glass pipes that smoke way smoother than any metal pipe are less than half what the local shop wants.
Just got an e-mail that the Tesla model glass pipe is sold out.
Told them to substitute.
I'll show ya what they send.

*slight subject change to "regular" pipes*
But I was gonna ask you, because I haven't smoked out of a glass pipe in years. I've got a little copper/brass pipe I made outta propane fittings many years ago. I think I A/B'ed it against a glass piece back then and decided the glass pipe was harsher/hotter. Does that make sense? I may have made another incorrect generalization. Seems like glass pipes are vastly more popular now. Is it just the esthetics? ('Cos I'm this close to buying another tubing flarer and make a few of these metal pipes. See if the shops want to sell 'em.)

Nope, as I said above, thin glass pipes are harsh.
beefy, chunky, glass pipes are a whole different animal
I gave all my metal pipes away, and am about to go a bonging.

Lemme go scout up an opening move, and see if I want an 'interesting game,' or for it to be 'in its death throes' after the first move.

And I checked out the thread at IC, but it had been so long since I'd seen it I don't know what was missing. If it pissed someone off that much (probably just jeopardized a sale) you should repost the offending facts here. :D

They have been.
Without incident, I might add.:cool:
But Cammie's not paying the rent here, yah?
And I was diplomatic.
I think of her lights as rectangular UFos.
But I did not say that.
I just refuted the tangled logic she was trying to defend < 1Watt emitter with.

On that note, heard from Tracy at Lumigrow.
They are using quality 5 Watt emtters.
58 of them and the reds are 660nm.
Sounds like a real winner.
'cept, for some reason, they put dimmers on the reds, and the blues. :wtf:
That, and they want $1300, with a rebate, yet.:mad:
So glad I already got.:thumbsup:

BRB with a move....

And, so you were.
And so, was I.
And now, I'll wait.
At least I'll try.
I want it now.
That's not to be.
So I sit and pine.
For move # three.

Wee

[DreadedHermie]

P - KN3

[Weezard]

P - K4

[DreadedHermie]

B - KN2

[Weezard]

B - KN2:)


That's a good move, in mid, or end-game:cool:
Right from the git, though, it is easily thwarted.
Here's how to handle an early fianchetto.
P - Q4!

Black now dominates 3 long diagonals and, so far, owns the center.:thumbsup:
Hope you got a long term plan, 'cause the wiki is feeding you hose.:D
Hint:
[attachment=o237199]

:asskick:at best!!

Suggest you count the number of controlled squares.
Ignoring the pawns, it's white -5
Black - 21
You need to remedy that in the next three moves or get mugged.

At best.:D

Aloha,
Da Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

That sidestep-fiancetto move left me in constipated field position in a previous game. I just wanted to try to run this opening, which is the old King's India Attack, verbatim, according to the wiki article.

Looks dicey to me, too. Just wanted to see how it develops. Running an experiment where I hope to be surprised at the outcome (which is the way to experiment :thumbsup:).

My next move would be kingside castle, and then it's ad lib from there. Mind if we try it? White may have to resign early, I realize.... From an analysis standpoint (which I'm not qualified to take) it seems like castling might better be done later, and more resources devoted to developing control positions at this early stage. Also seems like this fiancetto is intended more to simply permit the castle, rather than set up an effective diagonal threat.

I say, make a grab for that soap. Anybody with feet that small probably isn't equipped to do much damage. ;)

So, o-o, if yer willing. :hippy:

[Weezard]

That sidestep-fiancetto move left me in constipated field position in a previous game. I just wanted to try to run this opening, which is the old King's India Attack, verbatim, according to the wiki article.

Looks dicey to me, too. Just wanted to see how it develops. Running an experiment where I hope to be surprised at the outcome (which is the way to experiment :thumbsup:).

Fines' kine!

My next move would be kingside castle, and then it's ad lib from there. Mind if we try it? White may have to resign early, I realize.... From an analysis standpoint (which I'm not qualified to take) it seems like castling might better be done later, and more resources devoted to developing control positions at this early stage.

As long as you know that, let's git jiggy wit' it!:cool:
Tasty looking knight.
Only Killer in the field.
P - Q5
Move it or lose it!

Also seems like this fiancetto is intended more to simply permit the castle, rather than set up an effective diagonal threat.

I say, make a grab for that soap. Anybody with feet that small probably isn't equipped to do much damage. ;)

Have you checked him for dildi?
No want beeg surprise, yah?:(

So, o-o, if yer willing. :hippy:

Oh, so willing, the kill instinct is strong in 'zards.
I do enjoy winning, almost as much as learning.:cool:


Aloha
Wee

[Weezard]

The way I see this;

The main defense of that premature castle is a piece that has been moved once, and is now on his most effective square.
If I attack, his options are limited to 2 escape squares, (both of which, stink on ice), or a greater threat.
(Good luck with that.)

When I saw you throwin' the general rules out the window, I used that opportunity to break a logical rule or two myself and eschew piece development for King side domination and a pawn bomb up da middle.:D

I'm gonna have to look up that King's Indian opening and see what moves black has to respond with to make it look sane for white.
There has to be some kine logic to it.:wtf:
(Well, the brit's did eventually have to give India back, but they were Queen's indians, yah?.;))

Happy yer doin' it though.

This is great fun
A change from the usual run.
I ju's hope da fish dinner's worth more dan da barrel and gun.:D

'Bout to start smokin' some serious handicap, so I better go a -readin'.

l8r,

Al Ligator
.

[Weezard]

The board.
The bong.
The barleycorn
Better'n TV
Better'n porn.
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B X Wizard n duck!
is a free move.:cool:

Verdad?
"Dad's not here, man!

Whee 'zard.
So, dat's why dey calls 'em Bongs!
Dis kine weed's way too heavy fo' bongin'.
<Wanders away muttering>

[MerryPrankstr]

Ya know bongs are ok, but I really enjoy the taste of herb when it is smoked through a pipe.

Old Fashioned smoker, I'm afraid.

Enjoy the new bong! ;)

M.P.

PS I have to spread more reputation around before giving some to Weezard....

:(

[DreadedHermie]

I'm gonna have to look up that King's Indian opening and see what moves black has to respond with to make it look sane for white.

The wiki article suggested that black's initial responses are irrelevant. (I doubt this is true; that's why I wanted to try this attack. I think I was headed this way in a previous game, and chickened out when I saw you preparing a counterattack.) Figgerered I'd stay with the program (through the initial 4 moves) this time and see where it leaves me. (Out in BFE, I suspect.)

I hope that pic isn't how the board's supposed to be. I don't have your pawns looking that well developed.

You got Crown in that bag, or just using the bag? I recently A/B'ed Crown Royal against Seagram's VO Gold, and the VO Gold was impressive at a tad less $. Not that it makes much difference to me any more....:(

[DreadedHermie]

Wassup, MP. :) I agree. I can taste that bong-water, at least I could last time I tried one. I like to kick back with a nice joint meself, but that's been costing me entire days. :stoned::stoned:

Weez, is that the new bong--the sub for the out-of-stock model? The first pic you posted looked looked like the bong had built-in led effects lighting. I assumed that was just creative studio lighting for the ad shot, but maybe not. We could sell aftermarket led bong-lighting kits! Maybe with an onboard ignition source (which actually makes sense)....

[DreadedHermie]

I hope that pic isn't how the board's supposed to be. I don't have your pawns looking that well developed.


Hey, check your royalty. I think your king's on the wrong side of the bed.

[Weezard]

Hey, check your royalty. I think your king's on the wrong side of the bed.

King's where he b'longs. I meant to say P - K5 on da last move.
That's what all smack talk onna knight was about.
Sorry. I got bonged.

[Weezard]

The wiki article suggested that black's initial responses are irrelevant. (I doubt this is true; that's why I wanted to try this attack. I think I was headed this way in a previous game, and chickened out when I saw you preparing a counterattack.) Figgerered I'd stay with the program (through the initial 4 moves) this time and see where it leaves me. (Out in BFE, I suspect.)

I hope that pic isn't how the board's supposed to be. I don't have your pawns looking that well developed.

You got Crown in that bag, or just using the bag? I recently A/B'ed Crown Royal against Seagram's VO Gold, and the VO Gold was impressive at a tad less $. Not that it makes much difference to me any more....:(

That's the purple scrotum of doom.
When I get a really mild jar, you know, the 2 hit stuff.
I keep him in dere for a lot of reasons.
Light, cushioning, stealth, humor...

[Weezard]

OK
Touched down long enough to read their wiki with it's grade school notation.
I think I see the error of your ways;
The KIA starts with e4 and d3.
Or, in growed-up.
P - K4 -- P - Q3.
You skipped dem. they are the foundation and defense of da whole shebang.
As for Black's response being irrelevant, I disagree.
Shall we see?
Wanna start over?
Keen for the slaughter?
Your call my friend.

Aloha,
Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

Shall we see?
Wanna start over?


Maybe. I really want to see how this attack is supposed to work. There's a series of moves called King's Indian Defense that I think is more common. maybe a similar thing, just done by black instead(?)

But I haven't seen a description of KIA (with the pawn moves) like what you're saying. Just:
1. Knight
2. pawn out of bishop's way
3. bishop out of castling's way
4. castle

Now I know wiki is not any kinda final answer on anything. But the above sequence does have an authentic 'smell' to it, somehow. It also fits the given description of 'hypermodern school' play, in that it doesn't attempt to control the center with pawns. (Of course, that description continues, to explain center control is achieved via long-range pieces, which this sequence of moves isn't doing yet.)

Where's that description you found, that includes those 2 pawn moves?
Let me try to figure how to show you where I've been reading.

[DreadedHermie]

Here's where I was getting this stuff.

You ran off my knight with a pawn last time I tried this. There is obviously something awry with their interpretation. If you can get a pawn to (your) K5 in less than 5 moves, white can't protect that knight.

Worse, white has forfeited center control. AND, I am "in my own way" and have no long-range control, either.




Flank opening - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flank_opening)



The King's Indian Attack (KIA) is a system of development that White may use in reply to almost any Black opening moves. The characteristic KIA setup is 1.Nf3, 2.g3, 3.Bg2, 4.0-0, 5.d3, 6.Nbd2, and 7.e4, although these moves may be played in many different orders. In fact, the KIA is probably most often reached after 1.e4 when White uses it to respond to a Black attempt to play one of the semi-open games such as the Caro-Kann, French, or Sicilian, or even the open games which usually come after 1.e4 e5. Its greatest appeal may be that by adopting a set pattern of development, White can avoid the large amount of opening study required to prepare to meet the many different possible Black replies to 1.e4.

[DreadedHermie]

That quoted section is goofy. "Characteristic" is 1. Nf3, but "usual" is just a transposition from an open or semi-open game? :wtf:

This is starting to read, "Get your pawn out to K4 FIRST, and if you notice your opponent is asleep at the wheel, do a quick kingside castle."

I guess the part that's got me curious is that dang fianchetto. KN2 seems like an ineffective place to have white's bishop. Even if I move the knight out of the bishop's way, it'll still take another move to develop the bishop--otherwise he's just pointed at well-protected pawns. (This happened before, too.) But this KIA thing was popular for a long time. There must be a way the thing untangles itself for it ever to have been considered useful. THAT'S what I wanna see. :cool:

[Weezard]

That quoted section is goofy. "Characteristic" is 1. Nf3, but "usual" is just a transposition from an open or semi-open game? :wtf:

This is starting to read, "Get your pawn out to K4 FIRST, and if you notice your opponent is asleep at the wheel, do a quick kingside castle."

Bingo!
Ceegar!:jointsmile:

I guess the part that's got me curious is that dang fianchetto. KN2 seems like an ineffective place to have white's bishop. Even if I move the knight out of the bishop's way, it'll still take another move to develop the bishop--otherwise he's just pointed at well-protected pawns.

Exactly!
The fianchetto is best posed late in the opening.
Once all the Ps have been dotted, and da eyes have been crossed.
And is best from the queen's side with a king's side castle
(This happened before, too.) But this KIA thing was popular for a long time. There must be a way the thing untangles itself for it ever to have been considered useful. THAT'S what I wanna see. :cool:

First google hit said;

"...The KIA is considered a solid opening choice for White, although less ambitious than many more popular openings. Though rarely used at the highest levels except to avoid certain pet lines, it is extremely popular at the club level, because it is easier to learn than other openings that require memorizing specific move orders to avoid outright losing positions.
White's most common plan involves a central pawn push, e4-e5, leading to a central bind, kingside (http://boards.cannabis.com/wiki/Chess_terminology#Kingside) space (http://boards.cannabis.com/wiki/Chess_terminology#Space), and concrete attacking chances on a kingside-castled (http://boards.cannabis.com/wiki/Castling) black king...

Geeze! Deliberate obfuscation?

Black's resourcesâ??more queenside (http://boards.cannabis.com/wiki/Chess_terminology#Queenside) space for exampleâ??are not to be underestimated. In fact, this asymmetry often leads to violent middlegames (http://boards.cannabis.com/wiki/Chess_middlegame) and neatly constructed mating (http://boards.cannabis.com/wiki/Checkmate) nets involving the sacrifice of multiple pieces..."

I did da red highlight, but not da underline.
So, start ovah, again, and keep dat in mind?

But, yes, It makes a very beeg difference what Black responds
.:D

"And just how that irrelevant got into my pajamas, I'll nevah know." -Groucho, sorta

An' youse two 'utes was right 'bout da bong.
3 bowls an' she starts tastin like Eau de queef.

Got weird after the third bowl.
Then, I realized that the funnel shaped stem would he'p me finish all those 3/4 joints left onna tray since last bio-assays.

Hory mory!:stoned:
Got over-baked!
Damn near burned da house down with hot oil, and now I worry about tomorrow morning.
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IMO
If ya gotta get dat high, dat fast, best re-examine your motives, yah?

What da heck!
Learned a $50 lesson, and it will make a dandy wedding present;).:D

Aloha! Y'all
Wee'

[Weezard]

Wassup, MP. :) I agree. I can taste that bong-water, at least I could last time I tried one. I like to kick back with a nice joint meself, but that's been costing me entire days. :stoned::stoned:

Weez, is that the new bong--the sub for the out-of-stock model? The first pic you posted looked looked like the bong had built-in led effects lighting. I assumed that was just creative studio lighting for the ad shot, but maybe not. We could sell aftermarket led bong-lighting kits! Maybe with an onboard ignition source (which actually makes sense)....


Kinda disapointed in the esthetics of da foot-long.
But, you could hammer nails with it.
Not gonna complain, if the other stuff I ordered is "as advertised".
If it's all like this one, I'm liable to ruin someones day at da pipe store.;)

'course I could just add some blue fluorescent dye to the water and fire up the black light.:jointsmile::cool:

I'm on-board for the ignition source, though.:thumbsup:
Small container of NaOH, W/an aluminum wire feed will give a steady source of Hydrogen gas.
The flame is very hot, but almost invisible.
A little sodiun chloride doping will turn the flame bright yellow for safety, yah?
And now ya got a Bubbabong:rastasmoke:

Sunday morning wake n bake.

Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

A little sodiun chloride doping will turn the flame bright yellow for safety, yah?
Or just start with Calcium Carbide....can't miss that....:smokin::smokin::smokin:


In fact, this asymmetry often leads to violent middlegames and neatly constructed mating nets involving the sacrifice of multiple pieces..."
I'd read that before! That's what got me excited in the first place, I think...Violence, multiple sacrifice, real MAN'S chess. I'm gonna lobby for making the pawns "camp followers" or some other kinda sex object. Cheerleaders, maybe....Chess has the killin' action, we just need to add some tight skirts to make this game more widely appealing. And maybe some space-aliens, too... nasty kine. I think I'm gonna make the knights space-aliens, who can dimension-jump. That'll explain their unique abilities. And my pawn row is gonna look like a Vegas show line. :thumbsup:



So, let's start over.

P - K4

Lovely, isn't she? :stoned:

[Weezard]

Or just start with Calcium Carbide....can't miss that....:smokin::smokin::smokin:

Got some too.
But Acetylene tastes nasty!

"neatly constructedmating (http://boards.cannabis.com/wiki/Checkmate) nets involving the sacrifice of multiple pieces..."

"I'd read that before! That's what got me excited in the first place, I think...Violence, multiple sacrifice, real MAN'S chess. I'm gonna lobby for making the pawns "camp followers" or some other kinda sex object. Cheerleaders, maybe....Chess has the killin' action, we just need to add some tight skirts to make this game more widely appealing. And maybe some space-aliens, too... nasty kine. I think I'm gonna make the knights space-aliens, who can dimension-jump. That'll explain their unique abilities. And my pawn row is gonna look like a Vegas show line. :thumbsup: "

Dat's da tigget!
Tart 'em up!
Then, sacrifice!
Arm the pawns, train the pawns, spend the pawns.
Onward, ever onward.

So, let's start over.

P - K4

Lovely, isn't she? :stoned:

Yes, scrumptious!

I'll throw one inta da mix right too.
Blood and mini-skirts!
It don't get no betta dan dis.

P -K4.

Ooh! da blood is so salty!

Already composed the "we regret to inform you..."
Letters to dere kin.
You know, pencils, drawer pulls, pine trees.

Gonna be an odd day.
Weezard

[Weezard]

Nice pics, guys. :hippy:


Speaking of which...

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3 old ones, (One almost went through a dog.)
And 4 new ones
The li'l gold one is superb.
Gonna be my new favorite.

All top quality. And 1/3 of retail!:thumbsup:
The Digital vape looked crappy.
Indeed, the whip hose IS crappy, but it's the first time I've tasted the spiciness of the bud and the first time that I've enjoyed the medical benefits to the fullest.
So that's why folks pay $250 for da kine vape.
Beats the hell out of a bong.

I paid $60 for da vape.
Prolly cost 'em all of 12 bucks to assemble, pack, and ship. :)
Still, I'm a happy camper.:rastasmoke:

Wee (Pimpin' da glass) 'zard

[Weezard]

To recap:
It's
P - K4
P - K4.

And then...?

Weeze, The not so patient as he may, at times, appear.:D

[DreadedHermie]

Sorry, didn't see you online.

N - KB3

[Weezard]

Sorry, didn't see you online.

N - KB3

N - QB3

Drunken Mini-me

Got into the homemade mead.
When da cat's away...

[Weezard]

My Cdot mail is hosed.
Got summat stuck in it's craw, so I get no head's-up by e-mail.
Gotta check by hand.

I notice that you've been off giving good advice!:cool:

Aloha,
Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

The fianchetto is best posed late in the opening.
Once all the Ps have been dotted, and da eyes have been crossed.
And is best from the queen's side with a king's side castle


We're not here yet, but...

Why?

I see that O-O keeps the king on black, and the QR is on black....is there more to this?

P - Q3

[DreadedHermie]

I've searched this subject on this site.

Lotsa hot air and talkin' out nether orifices. No facts or experiments. Just balloon juice.

Anyway, got a friend in the land of plant number limits. The guy's worked with fruit trees before, even knows the names of the various cutting/tying techniques for grafting off the toppa his head. (That's a convoluted one, lol) He's interested in maintaining mother plants on which he can "store" different genetics. Figures he can graft branches and create "Frankenmoms" where he can maintain several different strains on each, long term clone supply.

I told him I'd look into it, but I'm not finding reliable info. What little discussion of the idea I can find seems focused on it as a potential alternative to revegging, but it's generally dismissed as impractical for that because of the recovery time involved.

At this point, I'm ready to tell the guy just go ahead and :weedpoke:, and let us know what he learns. You got any poop on this technique? Seems like I'd be a hot topic of discussion amongst those with number limits but lotsa good genetics.

[Weezard]

We're not here yet, but...

Why?

I see that O-O keeps the king on black, and the QR is on black....is there more to this?

P - Q3

Quite a bit more.

The knight is the cornerstone of the castle's defense.
A queenside fianchetto gets right up that knights nose and it's worth trading my white bishop to dismantle the defense!
(Though leaving that threat in place for as long as possible is often rewarding too.:))
This is what makes initial pawn positions in the center critical to white's defense.
You saw what happens without those pawns.:(
Not to mention that white's bishop, standing on the king's toes, invites back rank attacks.
It only takes one rogue rook for a checkmate when the king's escape is blocked!

It's still too early to plot, so.
I'm gonna stick to a modified Nimzo indian defense.
N - Kb3

Good morning!

Weezard

[Weezard]

I've searched this subject on this site.

Lotsa hot air and talkin' out nether orifices. No facts or experiments. Just balloon juice.

Anyway, got a friend in the land of plant number limits. The guy's worked with fruit trees before, even knows the names of the various cutting/tying techniques for grafting off the toppa his head. (That's a convoluted one, lol) He's interested in maintaining mother plants on which he can "store" different genetics. Figures he can graft branches and create "Frankenmoms" where he can maintain several different strains on each, long term clone supply.

I told him I'd look into it, but I'm not finding reliable info. What little discussion of the idea I can find seems focused on it as a potential alternative to revegging, but it's generally dismissed as impractical for that because of the recovery time involved.

At this point, I'm ready to tell the guy just go ahead and :weedpoke:, and let us know what he learns. You got any poop on this technique? Seems like I'd be a hot topic of discussion amongst those with number limits but lotsa good genetics.

All da stuff I read about grafting cannabis was long ago and they were trying to graft Hops onto cannabis root for stealth resin production.:wtf:
Big fiasco!
It seems, the phytochrome state is mobile and I just read a claim that grafting from a flowering plant will put the host into flower.
Don't know that I "buy" that.

Auxin levels and mobile element levels will vary as well depending on when and where-from, one takes the cuts.
It's tricky business.
Way over my head, so I'm hoping that folks with serious skills are trying it as we type.:jointsmile:

""Frankenmoms" where he can maintain several different strains on each, long term clone supply. "

He's still going to have ageing problems.
The clock does not stop on da mommas
they get older and each cutting is older too.
And, as you know cannabis will eventually get fed-up and flower regardless of the night length.
That, or die of old age.:(
Not sure how grafting young-uns to old roots plays out either.

In short? Ah dunno!

I agree, encourage him to start a thread and get to pokin':weedpoke::):thumbsup:

Aloha
Wee

[DreadedHermie]

N - QB3


I see that O-O keeps the king on black, and the QR is on black...
Dang. I meant QB. Figgered a black bishop might be a bit better at defending a king on the same color. Makes no difference to da rook.

[Weezard]

N - QB3

Dang. I meant QB. Figgered a black bishop might be a bit better at defending a king on the same color. Makes no difference to da rook.

I figured.

W.

[Weezard]

Still, N - QB3.
Final answer?!:D

Then B - QN5.
Right up on ya.

W.

[DreadedHermie]

is there more to this?

P - Q3

Quite a bit more.
Thanks for explaining that.


Still, N - QB3.
Final answer!Well, I didn't mistype that time, if that's what you mean. And I just edited the last post to suppress the sig, didn't waffle. But, moving QBP to that square instead keeps the queen from being bottled up, that's a good move, too....

I've heard of a "4 knights" game. Gotta be like this. So, yeah, I'll go with it...

[DreadedHermie]

Nuts. Didn't see you'd called a move. Okay, back to 3 knights...

Q - Q2

[Weezard]

Nuts. Didn't see you'd called a move. Okay, back to 3 knights...

Q - Q2

P - Q3.
My bishop is now on her own.
But, you just pinned your own knight.:wtf:

Gettin interesting.
Weeze

[Weezard]

"back to 3 knights..."

That's confusing, perhaps it's time for a picture?

[Weezard]

I have:

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Eh?
W.

[DreadedHermie]

Not to mention that white's bishop, standing on the king's toes, invites back rank attacks.
That sounds like a quote from "The Buggerer's Chaucer."


All da stuff I read about grafting cannabis was long ago Yep. I remember that stuff, too. I heard of a couple guys dat tried it back years ago. But dey got it backwards, and were attempting to graft weed to hops stock. I believe they won a Darwin Award before their project was completed.


And, as you know cannabis will eventually get fed-up and flower regardless of the night length.
That, or die of old age.
I kept a plant I didn't even like for a year and a half. I finally flipped her, and she was still vibrant. And I've seen plants I was told were 10 years old or more (that I believe were that old). I certainly think plants can be kept in veg long enough to make grafting up a Frankenmom worthwhile, if the grafts will 'take' in the first place.


It seems, the phytochrome state is mobile and I just read a claim that grafting from a flowering plant will put the host into flower.
Don't know that I "buy" that.

Mobile in vivo doesn't mean transferable like a car warrantee, and certainly not virulent like a zombie-bite, subjugating the host's entire organism.

If this were true, the outdoor growing world would be much different. Near the equator you've got 12/12 pretty much whenever you want, inside or out. But imagine what this would mean to mid-latitude outside growers. Plants could be started indoors, and put into flower outside as soon as it was warm enough. You could do two summer harvests. :thumbsup:

[DreadedHermie]

"back to 3 knights..."

That's confusing, perhaps it's time for a picture?


Hey, the picture's right....

Sorry, I just assumed you were going to capture my knight (leaving 3 total).

[Weezard]

Hey, the picture's right....

Sorry, I just assumed you were going to capture my knight (leaving 3 total).

What?
And let your queen out?
I don't yet know on which side you will choose to hide
Just another case of the constant threat doing more damaging than the execution.:cool:
Now I could dangle tempting morsels for the knight, just to be mean.:D
"What foods, these morsels be!" -Sign on a beanery in Cleveland Ohio.
Now I sit and wait for your next more.
Have you noticed that Black is ready to castle.
And attack either of white's Knights in 2 moves or less when white is ready to castle on either side.:)
So, Black's choices in the opening are relevant, yah?:D

Please continue..

Weeze

[Weezard]

That sounds like a quote from "The Buggerer's Chaucer."

It's from "Backdoor cleric".
The Altered Altar boy Affair.
By Catholic Lust publishing.;)

Yep. I remember that stuff, too. I heard of a couple guys dat tried it back years ago. But dey got it backwards, and were attempting to graft weed to hops stock. I believe they won a Darwin Award before their project was completed.

I kept a plant I didn't even like for a year and a half. I finally flipped her, and she was still vibrant. And I've seen plants I was told were 10 years old or more (that I believe were that old). I certainly think plants can be kept in veg long enough to make grafting up a Frankenmom worthwhile, if the grafts will 'take' in the first place.

You are right for the most part.
Highly dependant on the grower's skills and the strain though.
Growers in Amsterdam we're amazed that my friend had managed to winter clones for 7 years.
Apoptosis takes it's toll.

Mobile in vivo doesn't mean transferable like a car warrantee, and certainly not virulent like a zombie-bite, subjugating the host's entire organism.

If this were true, the outdoor growing world would be much different. Near the equator you've got 12/12 pretty much whenever you want, inside or out. But imagine what this would mean to mid-latitude outside growers. Plants could be started indoors, and put into flower outside as soon as it was warm enough. You could do two summer harvests. :thumbsup:

I Had not thought on this yet. Just read it and said, wait, what?! I sure hope it can work dat way.
Don't seem logical though.

Aloha,
Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

Might be hit or miss for awhile. Family medical problem. Might be stuck here OTOH. back in 6-8 hrs. Hermie

[Weezard]

Might be hit or miss for awhile. Family medical problem. Might be stuck here OTOH. back in 6-8 hrs. Hermie

Drat!
Sorry to read dat.

Best luck,

Weeze

[Weezard]

Might as well post this here as anywhere.
Mebe cockroach on Hermie's fan base.:)

Friends, I am puzzled!:wtf:

Bought a digital readout vape.
An' along wit, came a what da heck kine t'ing??

Well, I'll let da 'zard tell it.

I have a little thingumbob, da headshop sent to me.
An' what can be da use of it is more dan I can see.
If him got no earthly use, den why dem buggahs send?
(It's got a crooked crank with a goober on da end)??

Here's a nudder tousen words;

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[attachment=o237685]

I have no idea.:(
Came sans manual.
Not really even sure how to drive the thing.
He'p!

Mahalo,
Wee 'zard

[MerryPrankstr]

So I'm gonna guess that it just may be the "potpourri pot" accessory for hrbal essence treatments. I've read about vapes and was considering one as I am asthmatic (on top of everything else, eh?).

What's your first impressions.
Does the herb taste the same?
Did you get a whip or bag system?

Fill us in, Brah!

M.P.

[Weezard]

So I'm gonna guess that it just may be the "potpourri pot" accessory for hrbal essence treatments. I've read about vapes and was considering one as I am asthmatic (on top of everything else, eh?).

What's your first impressions.
Does the herb taste the same?
Did you get a whip or bag system?

Fill us in, Brah!

M.P.

Of course!, That makes sense.
The stinkum-ater.
It's da piece that makes it legal.:D

Ooh! I'm thinkin' honey oil and soda straw.:stoned:

Mahalo niu MP.:thumbsup:
Da nex' one's on me.:jointsmile:

Oops! almos' fo'got.

It's a "dig it all" readout, prolly from China, kine t'ing.
Did some readin' and when I turned it down from the default, 500F., I stopped coughing up my spleen.
At about 360F. I didn't think I was getting anything but aroma and a nice, spicey taste.
'til I tried to stand up, jus' could not find my feet.
Still missed the taste of the smoke, but was too high to toke.:jointsmile:

Dat's mo' betta.
I gonna play wit it an' get back to ya'll.

W.

[Weezard]

It seems, we've lost our big kahuna.:(
D. H.! You ok?

Worryin' weeze

[DreadedHermie]

Sorry, man. Just real busy. Haven't had a chance to sit down and try to think my way out of this. I got tripped up trying to avoid doubling a pawn, and now I'm all tangled up in myself.

Seems like the most logical move is P - QR3. That really makes my knight look attractive, though, and I was kinda trying to avoid that. But, yeah, P-QR3.

[Weezard]

Sorry, man. Just real busy. Haven't had a chance to sit down and try to think my way out of this. I got tripped up trying to avoid doubling a pawn, and now I'm all tangled up in myself.


Seems like the most logical move is P - QR3. That really makes my knight look attractive, though, and I was kinda trying to avoid that. But, yeah, P-QR3.

That works!
My Bishop beats feet.
B - QB4
Well, well. Seems a good perch.

Looks like you are forming a plan.
Here's grist for that mill.

Take a look at my Bishop's foray.
It was not really about the knight at all.

So, ya gotta ask yerself.
What was it about?:detective1::D

Could be just for funzies, yah?

Good to see ya back brah.:)

[DreadedHermie]

So, ya gotta ask yerself.
What was it about?

I figgered you were just trying to sucker me into stacking up my pawns again. Now that I've prematurely "developed" my queen, might as well try Q - KN5.

I am trying a new hydro project (plant torture). You know those annoying peat pots the big box stores sell their plants in? The ones they say to just plant "whole," plant and all? (Never liked the results, at least for container gardening...they seem to hamper root development to me....but damage the root hairs if you remove 'em.)

I picked out a nice beefsteak tomato plant in a 6" peat pot, with a few small roots trying to poke through the bottom. I dropped it straight into an 8" netpot and filled the sides with smooth pea gravel. I set that on a saucer with a splash of water in it, and the plant seems to be wicking it up okay so far. So, it's going into a bubble bucket. I'll top-feed it only as necessary until the roots realize there's a buffet below.

Just seeing how simple I can make this. The plant's still in the peat pot full of dirt. Just add rocks. :thumbsup: Some of the prettiest cannabis roots I've ever seen were growing, hydro-style, into this type of stone. Usta use ~3" or more for "drainage" in soil grows and always wanted to try it for hydro. It'd beat chasing pH and orange dust everywhere.

I guess the only question is: can I develop sufficient hydro roots before drowning the plant in mucky soil? I hope so. My cherry toms are doing great, but they tend to pop out of sandwiches. ;)

[Weezard]

I figgered you were just trying to sucker me into stacking up my pawns again. Now that I've prematurely "developed" my queen, might as well try Q - KN5.

Nope.
We already did dat.:)

Did not expect you to move the Queen twice.
Thought you'd try to repair your opening.

Not lookin' a gift gal in da mouth, mind you.
I'll be happy to dog her with lesser pieces while I finish my opening.;)


Perhaps this will clarify.
0 - 0
Part of the "prep".

My king will keep white queen from noshing on pawns and this links my rook and queen.
Next. I'll be looking to develop my white bishop and control more area.

I am trying a new hydro project (plant torture). You know those annoying peat pots the big box stores sell their plants in? The ones they say to just plant "whole," plant and all? (Never liked the results, at least for container gardening...they seem to hamper root development to me....but damage the root hairs if you remove 'em.)

I picked out a nice beefsteak tomato plant in a 6" peat pot, with a few small roots trying to poke through the bottom. I dropped it straight into an 8" netpot and filled the sides with smooth pea gravel. I set that on a saucer with a splash of water in it, and the plant seems to be wicking it up okay so far. So, it's going into a bubble bucket. I'll top-feed it only as necessary until the roots realize there's a buffet below.

Just seeing how simple I can make this. The plant's still in the peat pot full of dirt. Just add rocks. :thumbsup: Some of the prettiest cannabis roots I've ever seen were growing, hydro-style, into this type of stone. Usta use ~3" or more for "drainage" in soil grows and always wanted to try it for hydro. It'd beat chasing pH and orange dust everywhere.

I guess the only question is: can I develop sufficient hydro roots before drowning the plant in mucky soil? I hope so. My cherry toms are doing great, but they tend to pop out of sandwiches. ;)

It will be a race without a bubbler in the saucer.

I no like peat pots either, for the same reasons.
Don't even like net pots much. The good ones are too strong and cut into the roots.
The cheap ones do also, but they, at least, will eventually rip open to accomodate root girth.

[attachment=o238507]
[attachment=o238506]
[attachment=o238509]
No worry, stick wit' da hydro an' yer "cherry" toms gonna get sandwich sized.:cool:

I raised peppers and tomatoes first, to see what grow method was best, before I risked $ 10 -20 seeds.
(Yep, OCD, and cheap!):)
DWC won!
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Just started a new DWC project to test the claim that roots from separate cannabis plants, compete for space, water, and food, underground.

The first run is 6 siblings in my "square peg inna round hole" DWC bubbucket.
Lookin for a cannabis cat fight.;)

The next run will be 4 different strains. with the same set up.
I got a friend here that grows his mini-trees in huge dirt trays.
Got to wondering if that was hurting his yeild.
My expectation is, that one plant, one bucket, will beat the pants off rub-a-dub-dub!
V shell C.
I'd love to get surprised by this one.

Anyroad,
I have Castled my cowardly King.
We'll now see If I whine, or sing.

"You lot! Go gettem!
I'll jus' hang, here.:thumbsup:
Long as I'm safe,
you've nothing to fear.":jointsmile:

An' gimme dat guitar, ya :hippy:queer!
Take dis rifle, chug dis beer.

You lot gotta do da killin'!
No spare clergy, no spare chillun.
Dis kine war is royal fun.
I'll be out when da s-laughter's done.:D

Disssclaimer::jointsmile:


The preceding doggerel, may, or may not, reflect the l-attitude of the scribe and/or his various minions.

Mayonaisse rules!

Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

It will be a race without a bubbler in the saucer.


You musta missed the bubble-bucket part...That'd be a pretty pathetic root-mass display--half-inch roots in a sun-baked saucer.....


Don't even like net pots much. The good ones are too strong and cut into the roots.
I remember that third pic. You'd captioned it, "This lady had to quit the dance early because her shoes got too tight" or something like that. It stuck in my mind :tin foil hat: cause I wondered why you couldn't use some little diagonal cutters to open up some Ausgange for the larger roots...

Ooops...gotta run...but about castling: is there a "normal" response to an opponent's castle in terms of which side I might castle to? Do players like to be castled face-to-face, or catty-corner?

I somehow picked up the impression there's a general advantage to castling queenside (which would just figure, cause you've gotta move one additional piece outta the way). Or is it situational, depending on how the opponent's got his pieces deployed?

[Weezard]

You musta missed the bubble-bucket part...That'd be a pretty pathetic root-mass display--half-inch roots in a sun-baked saucer.....


Actually, that was addressing;

("I set that on a saucer with a splash of water in it, and the plant seems to be wicking it up okay so far."
"I guess the only question is: can I develop sufficient hydro roots before drowning the plant in mucky soil?")


I remember that third pic. You'd captioned it, "This lady had to quit the dance early because her shoes got too tight" or something like that. It stuck in my mind :tin foil hat: cause I wondered why you couldn't use some little diagonal cutters to open up some Ausgange for the larger roots...

Was too late by the time I discovered it, the cut was deep, the damage done.:(


Ooops...gotta run...but about castling: is there a "normal" response to an opponent's castle in terms of which side I might castle to? Do players like to be castled face-to-face, or catty-corner?

Some never castle at all.
But, to do so too early, allows an opponent the advantage of directing his attack.

I somehow picked up the impression there's a general advantage to castling queenside (which would just figure, cause you've gotta move one additional piece outta the way). Or is it situational, depending on how the opponent's got his pieces deployed?

Situational.

And I've seen players castle when they were "behind in time".
It loses the game .
Because; "Time trumps position"
You end up, poised to strike, but one move short.:(
Frustrating.

Lesson here?
Grab some time, then use it to castle to the side that gives your opponent the most problems.
And castle late.
It usually signals transition from the opening, to midgame.

I castled early, because your queen move forced it.
You now have the advantage of directing your attack and I gave up my time advantage.
The way I read this game, I have superior position, but the tempo is about even now.
Not to worry, I'll chase your queen around and gain back a time advantage with any luck.:)

So, decided onna move?

Aloha,

Wee 'Zard

[DreadedHermie]

Needed that info about castling to make an informed ponder. Gotta run errands ATM. Move later, after reflection. :D And yes. I foresee harassment coming to my queen. :pimp:

[DreadedHermie]

Yoicks...my internet connection is intermittent.

P - QN4

[Weezard]

Yoicks...my internet connection is intermittent.

P - QN4

B - Q5.
3rd move's a charm.:)

W.

[DreadedHermie]

Glad this is Stoner Chess. My last move looked like part of a daring plan before. :stoned: B - QN2

[Weezard]

Glad this is Stoner Chess. My last move looked like part of a daring plan before. :stoned: B - QN2

P- KR3
The queen must flee.

Wee

[DreadedHermie]

Nice post @ 1479, btw.

The poetic outburst could probably be set to a Steely Dan type melody and stand up quite respectably.


Just started a new DWC project to test the claim that roots from separate cannabis plants, compete for space, water, and food, underground.

I'm arbitrarily assigning extra validity to that study involving reflected light from the different colored mulches. Probably, because I feel like I've seen the phenomenon in action and just 'didn't have a name to put to it.' I remember your description of vegetation along a stone wall doing particularly well, possibly because of IR radiation, and wonder if the color of the wall or other nearby objects might have contributed to what you observed.

As this relates to your experiment, I think the reflected light from contiguous plants (6 inna tub, etc.) will signal each plant that she's in a competitive environment. I'd expect the plants in groups to stretch first, and to devote less initial energy to root development because of perceived "crowding" upstairs, not below.

You could maybe mitigate this effect by keeping the 'green part' of the grouped plants as short/small as possible. Maybe light them with a wavelength that won't reflect "green" or (730nm, or whatever...):pimp:

But if ya got everything evened out "on top" I'd kinda like to think roots don't mind crowding, as long as there's a good circulation of nutrients. (But a "normal" comparison won't show it, is what I been trying to say... :D)

[Weezard]

Nice post @ 1479, btw.

The poetic outburst could probably be set to a Steely Dan type melody and stand up quite respectably.


Thanks!
Jus' comes bubblin' up sometimes.
I try to filter out 96% of it.
The crap that does escape, just tickles the hell out of me when I stumble across it later, even hours later.
Most of the time, I don't remember writing it, and usually can not repeat it verbatum from memory when I do.

I think I might be chaneling an exceptionally funny Tuvan throat warbler.;)


I'm arbitrarily assigning extra validity to that study involving reflected light from the different colored mulches. Probably, because I feel like I've seen the phenomenon in action and just 'didn't have a name to put to it.' I remember your description of vegetation along a stone wall doing particularly well, possibly because of IR radiation, and wonder if the color of the wall or other nearby objects might have contributed to what you observed.

Mais oui!
Color, texture, and composition all affect what is reflected, what is absorbed, and what is re-radiated, from IR through UV.
In udder words, what da plant, she see.:D


As this relates to your experiment, I think the reflected light from contiguous plants (6 inna tub, etc.) will signal each plant that she's in a competitive environment. I'd expect the plants in groups to stretch first, and to devote less initial energy to root development because of perceived "crowding" upstairs, not below.

Hmmm, under sunlight, or full-spectrum, I'd agree.
But with no green, or yellow to relect, seems the li'l buggahs would be un-aware of each other above ground.
I do plan to put them in bondage to help with crowding and the competition for light.

You could maybe mitigate this effect by keeping the 'green part' of the grouped plants as short/small as possible. Maybe light them with a wavelength that won't reflect "green" or (730nm, or whatever...):pimp:

Oh, didn't see this.
My point exactly. Jus red, an' blue.

But if ya got everything evened out "on top" I'd kinda like to think roots don't mind crowding, as long as there's a good circulation of nutrients. (But a "normal" comparison won't show it, is what I been trying to say... :D)

You make good points.
But, by now, you must be aware that I'm forced to leave "normal" comparisons to normal MeHums. yah?:tin foil hat:

What I'm tracking here is inhibitory chemicals produced by plants roots that prevent them from growing close enough to crowd each other for sunlight, and nutrients.
That is factual.

The part that I'm investigating is whether plants recognize siblings.
Are they immune to their own strain's "chemical fence" ?
Are some inhibitory compounds specifically targeted for say, climbing vines?
Are these compounds one of the the reasons that some weeds hurt yields and some do not?
(And, that the "bad" weeds/"good" weeds are plant kine, specific.)

I mean, why sleep, when I can sit up thinking 'bout dese kine t'ings?;)

Oh, yeah! 'syour move.:)

Pensive Leezard

[DreadedHermie]

Duh. Moved and forgot to document it... Q - KR4.

Didn't mean to accuse you of a dumbed-down experiment--you mentioned a bed grower and I thought you might be collaborating with somebody. Sometimes it's amusing to play things looser, in terms of experimental controls--just change a parameter and try to observe its effects--as opposed to the more formal process of formulating a hypothesis, and watching for results in a more narrow range that directly relate to your ponderings.

And not to imply that bed-growing implies a lack of anything...I've seen it used in commercial horticulture with beds so huge that the tables would support power tillers to break up the resulting root mass. It seemed to me like the plants ignored each other's roots in this environment, and that they acted as they would when grown outside (which was certainly the intent with that setup). I was just a flunky on these things, though. Jes' a trabajador, not da hefe. Many years ago. Wouldn't have known what to look for.

But my thought last night (right before I started drooling on myself) was that there might be some 'recognition' of "electrical" activity in nearby roots related to ionic exchanges. I guess this is just semantics; chemical changes are "electrical" at some level. Though maybe you're looking for a combination of effects that ultimately produces an identifiable "chemical signature."

From a Darwinian perspective, one might expect more mutual inhibition between closely related strains than between specimens that might provide an advantageous genetic diversity. But that's just of the toppa my head; you may have debunked this already.

Then there's the question of: "Is a male plant more welcome next to a female than, say, another female plant?" Maybe they got some underwater pheromone perfume or suppin? Jus' throwing some thoughts out there...:hippy:

[Weezard]

Duh. Moved and forgot to document it... Q - KR4.

Didn't mean to accuse you of a dumbed-down experiment--you mentioned a bed grower and I thought you might be collaborating with somebody.

Wouldn't mind if ya did.:cool:
Not a linear thinker, or tinker.:)

Sometimes it's amusing to play things looser, in terms of experimental controls--just change a parameter and try to observe its effects--as opposed to the more formal process of formulating a hypothesis, and watching for results in a more narrow range that directly relate to your ponderings.

And, of course, "Anything worth doing...";)

And not to imply that bed-growing implies a lack of anything...I've seen it used in commercial horticulture with beds so huge that the tables would support power tillers to break up the resulting root mass. It seemed to me like the plants ignored each other's roots in this environment, and that they acted as they would when grown outside (which was certainly the intent with that setup). I was just a flunky on these things, though. Jes' a trabajador, not da hefe. Many years ago. Wouldn't have known what to look for.

P - QN4.
Them kids was pre-spaced and hand thinned, most likely.
I do have a small clump of seeds inna ground here.

'bout 7 seedlings inna cluster.
Lookin' like a featherduster.
Topside, dey all nice and sweet.
But inna mud, dey fight, wit' feet?

Ah dunno yet, pulled up a seat.
To see who suffers sad defeat,
an' which one be da bes' athlete.:D

But my thought last night (right before I started drooling on myself) was that there might be some 'recognition' of "electrical" activity in nearby roots related to ionic exchanges. I guess this is just semantics; chemical changes are "electrical" at some level. Though maybe you're looking for a combination of effects that ultimately produces an identifiable "chemical signature."

Grand idea! 6 of 1....

From a Darwinian perspective, one might expect more mutual inhibition between closely related strains than between specimens that might provide an advantageous genetic diversity. But that's just of the toppa my head; you may have debunked this already.

Had not even thought of that.
The plot thickens.

Then there's the question of: "Is a male plant more welcome next to a female than, say, another female plant?" Maybe they got some underwater pheromone perfume or suppin? Jus' throwing some thoughts out there...:hippy:

Zackary!
Pheromones, scent, ethylene, etc., above and below.
From tippy-top to stinky toe.


My space, and mind are quite limited, so I'm ju's lookin' at wroot wrestling for now.

Workin' fo' da wholly chao!

Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

So you're treading water to let me catch up, huh? (Picture the senior ladies' synchronized swim team) :D

O-O-O is queenside castle, ya?

Not so sure I like my pawns scattered downrange like dat, but I has maid my bed, and now I mus lye in it. :rasta:

[Weezard]

So you're treading water to let me catch up, huh? (Picture the senior ladies' synchronized swim team) :D

O-O-O is queenside castle, ya?

Not so sure I like my pawns scattered downrange like dat, but I has maid my bed, and now I mus lye in it. :rasta:

Oh my!

Well, it does free your knight.

I'ma go ;
N - KN5!

And, the midgame begins!

Lye can cause serious burns to yer head.
Line da bed wit' roses instead.
The thorns might turn the sheets quite red.
But mo' betta bloody, dan Drano dead ;)

Burma Shave.


Wheezard

[DreadedHermie]

Sorry to stall. Needed to think about this. Shoulda paid closer attention earlier, but had/got a lot going on. Got dat new computer, and some new stuff to learn. Trying to get some gardening done, too. Prolly set up a second tomato DWC with soil and rocks:D, cause the first one seems to be doing OK, too.

R - Q2

[jopedijoo]

How guys! How's it going? Your Chess&Bless club seems to be rockin' on :cool: Sorry to bother you again with my petty problems but still was hoping if you had a minute or two to spare and could swing by the Stealthy Led thread..? I'm almost done with the project, just a few adjustements and I'm good. Would really appreciate your help! :thumbsup:

[Weezard]

Sorry to stall. Needed to think about this. Shoulda paid closer attention earlier, but had/got a lot going on. Got dat new computer, and some new stuff to learn. Trying to get some gardening done, too. Prolly set up a second tomato DWC with soil and rocks:D, cause the first one seems to be doing OK, too.

R - Q2

Just what I thought you'd do.

I think the next few moves are going to be quite instructional;:)
Once the midgame begins, if development is well done, combinations just appear!

Q X Q!

Which kinda forces;
N X Q
Which begets
N X BP
And that, will force a rook move, or a trade.
The trade is a disaster, so prolly;
R - KN1.
That allows my naughty Knigget to "escape back to lake" with
N - KN5 discovering a bishop attack on the King's rook.

There is no interpose and no "greater threat"
So;
R - KR1 ,
Or lose it.

And that allows;
N - KB3. "Back to lake"
And white is down an important pawn.
And black picks up a 3 move lead and a superior position.

So much for Wiki-tutoring, yah?:)
The early fianchetto will only work against a greedy and/or hasty opponents.

A good played ignores "odd" openings and just concentrates on his own development.

Perhaps you'll find a flaw in my analysis.:stoned:
If not, the board should look like this;
[attachment=o238749]
and it's your move.

Green?


Weeze

[Weezard]

How guys! How's it going? Your Chess&Bless club seems to be rockin' on :cool: Sorry to bother you again with my petty problems but still was hoping if you had a minute or two to spare and could swing by the Stealthy Led thread..? I'm almost done with the project, just a few adjustements and I'm good. Would really appreciate your help! :thumbsup:

Tchoor, brah!

Be right dere.

Aloha,
Wee

[DreadedHermie]

Yep. Looks right. I almost initiated the queen trade, but looked that was gonna take care of itself. At least it un-pinned my knight.

N x P (QN5)


I trust ya'll are safe, looks like your tsunami ran outta steam before it could make landfall onna island. Be careful. DH

[Weezard]

Yep. Looks right. I almost initiated the queen trade, but looked that was gonna take care of itself. At least it un-pinned my knight.

N x P (QN5)


I trust ya'll are safe, looks like your tsunami ran outta steam before it could make landfall onna island. Be careful. DH

B - N3
No want him chewin' on my anchor pawn.

I used to remove my queen from the board as a handicap when playing new guys.
Bad idea, they didn't learn about queens.
Now, I jus' look for the best move, and play the second best move as a handicap.;)
Or, :stoned::stoned::stoned: 'til I have no idea what's da bes' move.:rastasmoke:
Bottom line?
You'll do much better not trading queens with me in future
games.

I play well without a queen.:D

Maybe next game the theme will be "Queen power".
Nuttin' stings more dan an unexpected "Bitch slap".

And thank good ol' "turkey guts" fo' me fo' correctin' dat series of errors to da Jujubee's mind.

Aloha,
Cryptic Weeze

[DreadedHermie]

A queen in my hands is about as effective as a sniper rifle in the hands of a five-year-old. We can kinda make it work, but....

If I've seen a chance to trade, I've taken it. Them things is dangerous, and figure one's gotta be more valuable to you than to me. Especially after the board clears out a little and she can reach out for a ways without running into (and away from) lesser pieces. So, yeah, I'd like to see how to use one. Queen power game sounds good.

Getting both knights out there early was fun, though. :D

B - K2

[Weezard]

P - QR3
Scram 'orsie, yer bodderin' me.

Wee