JOURNAL OF A MADMAN [Archive] - Page 2 - Green Grass Forums

TheGreenFog

10-15-2006, 02:34 AM

Well, bud breath420, we have that same fear. There is really not much we can do about it either. Since we built the shelf it is setting on all in one piece, we really cant lower it down. We will be able to lift the lights, but not that much. I'm considering chopping some off...like a massive top. It is not the best solution, but the only one I can really think of. We let them stretch too much in the beginning, then we vegged too long after that waiting for the clones to show sex. We wanted to keep them short and we did stop the stretching as soon as we placed them under the HPS, but it was too late. They have now been set to flower, so we will start to see the stretching any time soon now. I think we're gonna have to chop them down some tho. :(

Any other ideas?

TGF

Edit: Hmm, I dont know if I even mentioned the fact that we set them to flower on DAY 86. Well, the flower room is at 12/12, FYI. :D

TheGreenFog

10-15-2006, 06:34 AM

~DAY 90~

TheGreenFog

10-15-2006, 06:37 AM

~DAY 90~

Still having problems with the possible magnesium deficiency with the one plant #13. I haven't had a chance to go try to add the epsom salts. Will do soon. Others look ok. A little sad in the main flowering room. Veg is doing fine. Rubbermaid flowering box, well I'm gonna have to show you! WOOT.

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-15-2006, 06:46 AM

More pics of the main flowering room. These plants are 3 feet tall. They were pretty healthy until recently. One is doing pretty bad, the others just look droppy or maybe lacking something. I've upped the flowering nutes from 25% to 50% since last time so we'll see how that works out.

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-15-2006, 06:58 AM

Psssssht.

EDIT: OH OH MENTAL NOTE: These plants are in were started to flower on DAY 86 and now it is DAY 90. They are in DAY 4 of flower. :D Cant wait!

TheGreenFog

10-15-2006, 07:04 AM

Veg room. DAY 90

TheGreenFog

10-15-2006, 07:11 AM

A few more pics of the veg room.

TheGreenFog

10-15-2006, 07:15 AM

Well, got some other pics from DAY 90 as well. Some of the veg and some of the flowering rubbermaid box! But I'm too tired to post anymore. Gonna have to do it tomorrow or something. Enjoy the pics. Gimmie some feedback.

OH, and here's a little teaser of the rest of the pics from DAY 90. DAMN, that's sweet.

TGF

doco

10-15-2006, 07:21 AM

Wow, you vegged them for nearly 3 months? Those things are going to be giants!

bud breath420

10-15-2006, 08:37 AM

I think moving that bottom shelf down a bit would be the best option.. as well as lifting the lights you might be able to pull it off..

jamstigator

10-15-2006, 09:23 AM

It's possible to veg plants for a long time and keep them semi-smallish, by keeping the plants in small pots and letting them get rootbound. I have a Durban Poison x Skunk #1 plant that I've been vegging since...mmm, April I think, maybe May, in a half-gallon pot. It was one of the freebie seeds from seedboutique.com, the only one that successfully germinated. I'm actually growing Blue Mystic this time, but haven't had the heart to just kill this Durban Poison x Skunk #1, so I transplanted it to a 5-gallon pot and threw it in a spare closet yesterday with some CFLs. Was thinking about buying one of those cheap Inside Sun 250 watt HPS lights too, just for that plant. *snicker*

TheGreenFog

10-15-2006, 04:19 PM

Yea, now that I know how to keep em short, that's not going to be a problem in the future. Basically you have to have enough light so they dont stretch. I dont really think the pot size matters for height, at least not in my case, cuz if you noticed, mine got really tall while just in those little 4" rockwool cubes.

Most important is to keep strong light on her so she doesnt stretch, and topping helps stunt the vertical growth some. But like I said back on page 10 or something, I couldnt really top these plants cuz then they would grow wider and I didnt have any room for wider plants! LOL

But if you look at the one I'm doing LST on, I planted it really deep in the rockwool cube so it doesnt have that 6"-8" stretched base on it, plus I've been keeping a dedicated CFL beaming straight on her so she doesnt stretch. I've topped her once and will most likely be topping again today. :D I'm also gonna try to get good at the FIM technique and supercropping, and use it to create nice monster bushes. :D I've beeen tempted to get one of those $95 250wHPSs too! I still just might

Hey, budbreath, remember I said I cant really drop the bottom shelf down any? :) I wish I could, because that really would solve my problem. I could even put the resevoir under the left side because we're hand watering those now and they dont need a res. I'm probably gonna convince cohort that we should chop those tops on the flowering plants :( today and make them 6 to 8 inches shorter, then just hope they dont "triple" in size. Double....I might be able to handle, but not triple. Cant wait to see how it turns out! :D:D:D:thumbsup:

TGF

Page 12....ping!

Should I start another thread??

TheGreenFog

10-16-2006, 05:59 AM

The mothers are DAY 90 from seed. These are the second run of clones. They are doing alright. Not as well as the first run. I dont really know what we're gonna do with these yet. LOL. Anyway, here they are. We've attempted to FIM 2 of them and top another.

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-16-2006, 06:10 AM

DAY 90

DAY 18 of flowering in this rubbermaid box.

HAVE A PEEK INTO OUR AUXILIARY FLOWERBOX...

TheGreenFog

10-16-2006, 06:19 AM

Let's take a slow stroll around my small garden...

Here are the plants in bloom. They are 18 DAYS in flower at this point. Pistils are multiplying rapidly and standing straight up. We saw trichomes for the first time today. I will put up a couple pictures that show that much better a little later.

Mind you, we were using this box soley to sex our large plants. We planned to discard these plants because we did not veg them properly. BUT, we could not. We said to ourselves, "Selves, how could you just toss them out on the street like some piece of garbage?! (gasp!) Even if you only get a 14 grams from the whole lot, it is worth it. You must go on." And so we did. :D:D:D

TGF

Note: Our large plants are about 2 weeks behind these plants, so we will have these to smoke while we wait for the large ones to dry. :D Ping!

TheGreenFog

10-16-2006, 06:23 AM

Some nice developing nugs. MMMM, eat them CFL lumens! I want to eat one of the buds right now. lol

:thumbsup:

TGF

Cornelius

10-16-2006, 06:25 AM

Note: Our large plants are about 2 weeks behind these plants, so we will have these to smoke while we wait for the large ones to dry. :D Ping!

:thumbsup:

TheGreenFog

10-16-2006, 06:39 AM

Ok, guys. This is what I'm gonna leave you with for DAY 90/DAY 18 of flowering.

The plants are doing ok. There are some speedbumps but nothing has died! :thumbsup: There is GOOD NEWS, though. We have positively confirmed our last plant's sex.

Guess f*cking what? FEMALE.

This means that we got a total of 10 females out of 13 seeds. That's a high frickin' ratio if I've ever seen. And we were worried about not getting enough girls! Holy Moly! I was not expecting that. Well, we'll hafta make do. So sad...not! ;)

Pic#1: One of the plants got burnt when touching the CFL. It is damaged, but looks to be growing ok. It might even be "FIMing" itself!

Pic#2: Our three 2nd-run test-clones that were all just recently confirmed as FEMALES! WOOT, and all that jazz. :D

Pic#3: Another plant affected by the CFL being too close. It wasnt damaged as bad as the other one, but still looked heat stressed. Its growing normally again now.

Pic#4 & #5: Two kickass pictures of some nice, crystally nugs. (I cant believe I'm seeing crystals/trichomes already! Wooohoooo!

Well, everyone, ENJOY! Will be back in a couple of days to post. That WILL be DAY 93 for the mothers. It WILL be Day 21 for the Rubbermaid box. And it will be DAY 7 of the main flowering room's flowering cycle! We still have to add some magnesium to a couple of the plants in the main room, top our #11a mother, and work on the clones. OH and we are installing another new fan on DAY 93. STAY TUNED!

Questions, comments, and feedback are always welcome! :thumbsup:

Be cool...like ice.

TGF

jamstigator

10-16-2006, 08:07 AM

Well, I skipped the cheap Inside Sun 250w HPS, and instead got a couple of these:

http://www.1000bulbs.com/product.php?product=31681

210 watts of CFL, in two bulbs, for $50 (with shipping). Not quite the perfect spectrum for flowering, but should still be okay. Gonna throw 'em on that Durban Poison x Skunk #1 and whatever happens happens. I might also have too many Blue Mystic females. I planted 5, and it looks possible that all 5 are female, and my flower box is only going to fit 2 or 3 of them.

So, I read a post by a guy who rotated plants under lights. Like, 2 females, but keep 1 of them in darkness for 12 hours while the other is under the lights. Then swap their positions, move the one under the light to a dark closet, and move the one in the dark closet under the lights. It'll be sort of a pain to move them twice a day during flowering, but I need exercise anyway. Heh. Basically, instead of turning the lights off for 12 hours a day, I'll just move the plants, and flower TWO sets of plants with one set of lights. That way I won't have to kill off any females. Sort of like a poor man's improvised munchie-powered light-mover! ;)

TheGreenFog

10-16-2006, 10:48 PM

Those flouros definitely look nice. Might try them out sometime. Cant do the physical moving of the plants like you plan to due to inability to be there every 12 hours. Right now, we should be ok with what we have. Hope the mothers in the veg room can be kept under control while we wait for the flowering to finish. Then we'll have to re-evaluate the situation. Hopefully we'll get to the point where we have several Bonsai mothers of different strains and we can have some variety. We'll be hypothetically doing BG and NL next and we dont even really have room for our next batch of bagseed. Hmmm.

Did I mention that we got 10 out of 13 FEMALES! Wish for rain and you get a monsoon! Whew.

TGF

notorious P.O.T

10-16-2006, 11:08 PM

lol ... beautiful plants mang...those pistils are very crazy looking.. do they have like a pink tint.. cuz i looks that way from my end.. it might just be the hps.. watever... great job ..

TheGreenFog

10-17-2006, 12:25 AM

Hmmm. Dunno. They look white to me...but then again, I'm what they call "colorblind" so it's sometimes hard for me to see tints. Are they pink? COOL! :thumbsup: I was excited about the trichomes, but now the pink! lol

I used a small microscope to look at the trichomes. They look sweet as hell. Excited to see them get bigger and bigger!

Oh and they are not under HPS, but they are outside of the room that has the HPS, so it might be the light from there. :confused:

TGF

t_i_p

10-17-2006, 08:18 AM

Great grow I must say it been great reading. I plan to keep checkin in form time to time. Keep up the great work the look well. Time to pack the bowl and call it a night.

bud breath420

10-17-2006, 08:51 AM

lookin good man...

TheGreenFog

10-17-2006, 01:39 PM

Thanks for the responses guys. Glad you enjoy the show. I'm enjoying it myself. :D:D We've just gotten to the exciting part! :D Buds to come! I have more updates from DAY 93 coming today or tomorrow. :D

TGF

Bodom Children Of

10-17-2006, 06:02 PM

I remember when this thread just started and now its HUGE!:D
I'm still keeping tabs on this thread even if i don't message.
But yeah its not really a bodom box i got it from people on Overgrow
Good Grow keep it up

TheGreenFog

10-18-2006, 04:54 AM

Hey, Bodom. U finally decided to come around. :) Well, I was not around for OG so I got it from you. :D Not using it exactly how I would like (to its full potential) now, but I didn't plan to fully flower these small ones. Changed my mind. After this one...I plan on putting at least 1, maybe 2 LST'd chicas in there. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

STAY TUNED!

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-18-2006, 05:15 AM

Well, I was going to catch you up and post DAY 93, but apparently I left the pictures somewhere where I am not. Therefore I will have to update at a later time. Bummer.

Well, in the meantime, you all will have time to catch up on the thread (I know it's gone pretty fast up 'til now) and post me some comments.

We would love to hear your feedback.

Random thought: Damn it's hard caring for this many ladies.

SOME INFO:

Our room is male-free. :D:D:D We have a total of 27 plants at different stages. This includes:

9 rooted clones upstairs
Don't know what we are going to do with these yet. :eek:

3 plants in veg
- Mambo#5 (Our "motherplant")
- Bony #Ten (Our extra "motherplant"
- Heaven #11a (Our LST'd plant, hopefully our future Bonsai Mum)

10 test-clones blooming in Rubbermaid 'BodomBox' ;)
Three of them were flowered almost immediately after the clones rooted to determine sex. They probably wont produce that much and maybe become scrapped to give the others more room. They are also substantially behind the others timewise. The rest are lookin' O' so pretty. :D

5 Large plants in main flowering room
One (#13) is showing severe signs of what I think is magnesium deficiency. Two others (forget which #s) are also showing the same signs but to a lesser degree. Maybe just behind in the process of dying...:eek:! The other two are doing well - green and healthy looking.

So, that's the update for now, guys and gals. Let us know whatcha think. Keep your fingers crossed for the success of this "beat-the-black-market grow" and as always, STAY TUNED to TheGreenFog TV. Yes, I said FOG, not FROG. :D:D:D

Peace, love, and pot.

TGF

Cornelius

10-18-2006, 06:23 AM

go man, go!

TheGreenFog

10-18-2006, 06:29 AM

"He was a man of few words, but those words spoke volumes"

You're posts are so "deep," Cornelius....

Thanks.

bud breath420

10-18-2006, 06:50 AM

hehehe frog... man make your you look after that mag def... dont wanna see those bigguns die..

TheGreenFog

10-18-2006, 02:49 PM

Who's frog?

TheGreenFog

10-18-2006, 10:00 PM

Hey, budbreath. I have pictures of DAY 93 when we added the epsom salt to address the Magnesium deficiency problem, but I do not have the CD with me at this time. I will hopefully be posting the pics of DAY 93 as soon as tomorrow. Then, the NEXT set of pics (maybe DAY 98, but maybe DAY 104) after that hopefully should show some improvement. I have not even seen them since adding the Mg and I might not see them for almost 2 weeks after adding the Mg. Will keep you updated :D

Stop calling me Frog. ;)

Be cool, man. :thumbsup:

TGF

Edit: That is what you were asking for was pics before/after I handled the deficiency, right?

oturbojoeo4o

10-19-2006, 02:13 AM

im gonna skull fuck ur plants.....hope you dont mind

bud breath420

10-19-2006, 12:07 PM

yeah thats what i was asking but i was a little under the weather so to speak.. man you know what i mean lol... good luck on the skull fucking turbo, whatever that might be..

TheGreenFog

10-20-2006, 08:32 AM

im gonna skull fuck ur plants.....hope you dont mind

Really?

Only if you like sloppy seconds. Lol

I take that as a compliement. Thank you

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-20-2006, 08:41 AM

~DAY 93~

This is from seed. DAY 21 flower in the small box. Day 7 flower in the main flowering room.

Something is wrong with the plant(s) in the main flowering room. Taco leafing, dying leave, the works. We suspected magnesium def so we added some epsom salt. Anyone have another diagnosis?

Well, here's some pics. I dunno if I'm gonnna be able to stay up long enough to finish DAY 93, but I'll try.

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-20-2006, 08:47 AM

First 3 pics are of #11a. This is our LST plant.

4th, Overiew. 5th, Main flowering room.

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-20-2006, 08:53 AM

Still DAY 93/21/7, lol.

#1 & #2 are our clones (2nd run of clones) already rooted, now trying to figure out what we're going to do with them...!

#3 Rubbermaid bloombox

#4 Birds eye

#5 Mini forest shot.

Too tired to post any more. Will do the rest tmw hopefully. :D:D:D

jamstigator

10-20-2006, 10:45 AM

sweetie

10-20-2006, 11:22 AM

Hi Greenfog
Just want to say ur plants look yummy :-) ur set up is very neat, i wish we had more space to grow more but never mind at least i have 2 plants lol,which are doing very good now.

TheGreenFog

10-22-2006, 10:39 PM

This has nothing to do with your grow, but just wanna say: you're a cool guy, Fog. When people get antagonistic, you have always responded rationally and maturely, and you're always extremely helpful when people have questions too, in this thread and others. The world could use more stoners like you! ;)

Thanks, Jam. You're cool, too. The way I see it, we're all just here to hang out and be cool with each other anyway!! :D:D

:rasta: :pimp: :smokin: :rasta: :pimp: :smokin: :rasta: :pimp: :smokin: :rasta:

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TheGreenFog

10-22-2006, 10:42 PM

Be cool guys! Will update DAY 93 tomorrow, most likely. I also have DAY 97 pics...and will very shortly have DAY 104 pics!! I can't wait to see dem buds.

:thumbsup:

TGF

bud breath420

10-23-2006, 02:45 AM

lookin good as usual mate.. cant wait till the bud pics

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 12:11 AM

Thanks, BB. Ok, guys. Time for some more updates. Hope I can catch us up!

We'll start with where I left off with the pics. Here are some pics of the plants in the rubbermaid flowering box.

#1. The first one is our "three-headed monster" lol. Got burnt by a CFL when it grew into it. It recovered and now is growing three buds from the top budsite. Woot! Mongoloid plant for the win!

#2. Our three "behind" plants. We started sexing them about 2 weeks after the others were started. We also did not veg them very long after they had rooted. Pretty much just aiming at sexing them. Females...ping!

#3. A beautiful bud.
#4. Another one
#5. Another shot of the same one as #4, I think.

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 12:19 AM

Oh...and when I say "ok, guys, " I mean guys AND girls. :D

Here's some more pics. I take so many pics, sometimes it's disgusting. But no one here has told me to STOP posting so many pics of beautiful cannabis plants, so I will share them all with youse. This way, you can feel as if you are inside the grow too!

I want to build a miniature tree-house, shrink myself and live in the canopy of my marijuana plants. Seriouisly.

:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 12:25 AM

Ok, here's the last bit of the DAY 93 bud pictures. I had already posted the veg room, main flowering room, and clone room pictures near the top of this page. So there's DAY 93. I'll probably take fewer pictures every update during the rest of the flowering time, then more and MORE when I get close to finishing. MMMM, trichomes. Look at our mutant plant in pic#3. I think it FIMed itself! So cool. :D:D:D

Should I use one of these budshots as my avatar?

TGF

Next up...DAY 97!

BONG0

10-24-2006, 05:47 PM

Thats a cool way to no incriminate yourself but still post "there" grow there "the journal" ;-) very slick, way to go about it.

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 07:17 PM

Nothing slick about it, Bongo. This is NOT my grow. I do not grow. I just smoke. Hell, I don't really even know much about growing. Don't you see my sig? I just copy & paste stuff. I only use the first person so I can look cool and for less confusion. Now that I think about it, I must be a big loser... :(

Thanks for the comment, anyway. :thumbsup:

That being said...lets go to DAY 97!!! Ping! :D:D:D

TGF

:dance:

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 08:27 PM

~DAY 97~

DAY 25 in our Rubbermaid flower box
DAY 11 in our Main flowering room

Too early to open up the flowering box/room. So here is a wide shot...and pics of the left-side VEG area. One plant is missing from the pic because we took it out to work on it.

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 09:35 PM

Here's three pics of our #11a, on which we are preforming LST. It is very nice. I really like LST.

The other two are the main flowering room just before lights on. We opened it about 5 minutes before lights on...but then figured out about the timer/hot start prevent device that is installed.

^This device, just incase some of you are not familiar with them, are hooked up to your HID light as a safeguard. They do a couple things:

Hot temp shut off: If temps in your room exceed a certain temp (which most likely means that your fan has stopped working), it will automatically disable your lights to prevent burning your plants, or more seriously, your house down.

15 minute hot start prevent: The life of your HID lights is severely decreased if you do not let the light cool down for 15 minutes between start ups. This is generally to prevent a hot-start in the event that you lose power momentarily due to a thunderstorm or something similar.

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 09:39 PM

More pics of our 5 ladies in the main flowering room. This is DAY 11 of flowering for them.

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 10:34 PM

More pics of the main flowering room.

In pic#2, you can see the plant (#13) that I was talking about a little while ago that we are having problems with. It has dying leaves, taco leafing, and weird splotches on some leaves.

We have diagnosed the problem as a possible magnesium or phosphorus deficiency. Our solution was 2-pronged:

We increased the amount of bloom nutes to a 100% solution of 1.4 EC Bloom ferts. (We had been grandually increasing from 0% to this when we noticed the deficiency)

We have added a small amount of magnesium sulfate (epsom salt) to the afflicted plants, and some to the others as a preventative measure.

Wish us good luck!

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 10:52 PM

Last pics of the main flowering room...these pics show some more of the damage.

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 11:19 PM

Still DAY 97/25/11

First three pics are of PLANT #11a in our veg room. We are doing LST on it and you can see where we have recently topped it for the 2nd time. :D:D:D It also now has female preflowers! :D

Pic#4 is the progress on our 2nd run of clones. Doing well. We still don't know what the hell we are going to do with them. :eek:

But the good news is...we haven't killed a single plant we didn't want to kill. MJ is so very resiliant! :thumbsup:

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-24-2006, 11:47 PM

~DAY 97~

DAY 25 of flower in this Rubbermaid BloomBox...

Here are our impromptu flowering ladies. How do they look?

TheGreenFog

10-25-2006, 12:09 AM

More bud pics! First three are of our "three-headed mutant."

Look at those buds... are they normal looking???

TGF

Whooo look at those trichomes on pic#5!

TheGreenFog

10-25-2006, 12:19 AM

Ok, guys and gals. This is the last set of pics from DAY 97/25/11. Hope you like them. We sure do. Gotta love dem buds.

I will now be slowing down a little on the posting, probably posting updates every week or so until the 'harvest.' You guys are hypothetically caught up with us now so you will be there with us when for all the ups and downs! Hope there are only UPs!

I can't wait to taste them. Can I pluck one off right now and smoke it?? :p

Oh, and please feel free to leave any comments/questions/advice/feedback/input!!!

TGF

Stay tuned...to TheGreenFOG TV!!!!!

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brookerosebud

10-25-2006, 01:04 AM

have to say fog, you do us proud! loved the pics and wish i'd have been a prt of this thread. side note, my sage looks like that box there times 10. one plant though!

thanx again babe,

love, brooke

Cornelius

10-25-2006, 01:17 AM

hey man looking good.

TheGreenFog

10-25-2006, 01:29 PM

hey man looking good.

Thanks Cornelius. Again...a very deep and insightful post. :D :thumbsup:

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-25-2006, 01:34 PM

I'm going to see the babies either today or tomorrow (Day 103 or 104)! Will have an update soon. I have a 'feeling' we're running out of room again. :eek: I also have a 'feeling' that another one of our small plants burnt on a light again. :mad: Will update soon.

Please leave me some feedback or comments or questions...I know there are some out there. Gotta be. Ok, I'll start...No one has said anything about the sh*tty mold I have all over my rockwool...

TGF

iheartyou ;)

TheGreenFog

10-25-2006, 06:52 PM

I haven't heard back from anyone on what they think that curling, splotching and dying of that one plant (#13) I keep talking about. All the recent pics are on Page 13. It is the right side Main Flowering Room. The plant in the very front corner. The only thing that I could diagnose it with is lack of either Phosphorous or Magnesium. I would love to hear from one of you expert diagnoseRs! :)

Anyone...anyone...Bueller...

TGF

Cornelius

10-25-2006, 07:38 PM

Thanks Cornelius. Again...a very deep and insightful post. :D :thumbsup:

TGF

shut up Fog. i wasn't aware you liked it deep.

anyhow, are you sure plant 13 isn't suffering from a little nute burn? I recently burned mine a little and the leaf damage looked awfully similar to what you are experiencing. Mine are early in veg, so i don't know, could be too much nitrogen. Then again I am still learning. good luck, hope you solve your problem.

:pimp:

TheGreenFog

10-25-2006, 09:40 PM

I was just messin' with ya, Cornelius. All is well. Thanks for the comments, man, seriously.

As far as the plants...I am doubtfull that it is nute burn, simply because I have experienced nute burn before, curtailed it and noticed its symptoms, and also because started flushing as we moved from veg to bloom and the plant went without nutes for at least a week. And at other times, we were only adding between 20-50% strength at any time.

I also looked at the Plant Abuse Chart (http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/97.htm) and the Mg or P deficencies were the only ones I could think could be the culprit...but like I said, I would love to hear YOU peoples' opinions. :D
Thanks

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-25-2006, 09:58 PM

Havin' problem uploading pics today. :mad:

Anyway, here are some of them. The rest are back there in the log. Just thought I'd pull some out here to good ol' page 14. ;) Hell, some of these could be used to start a NEW Plant Abuse Chart (http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/97.htm). :(

:rasta:

TGF

Cornelius

10-25-2006, 10:29 PM

yo fog are you using HPS? I didn't feel like going back through the whole thread to find out (it's getting rather large, eh?)

floyd2zapper

10-26-2006, 01:43 AM

Hi Fog,Great grow you have going long may it continue your right are set ups do look similar in some ways lol.I have (i grow chronic) dvd too have you got (sog) by hans thats a cool dvd too.keep up the good work i look forward to checking back to see how your doing.

Take it easy Fog. :thumbsup:

TheGreenFog

10-26-2006, 10:15 AM

~Cornelius~

Yes, I'm using a 400w HPS in my main flowering room. Yea, the thread is rather large...and to think, most of it is just posts from me with pics. Can you imagine how large it would be if a bunch of people were posting responses and comments instead of just a few? :eek: ;)

~floyd2zapper~

Yep. Mr. Green definitely influenced this grow. Strange several people have told me they've never seen this method before. :confused: Hmm. Well, I like it. :D:D

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-26-2006, 10:18 AM

Some info, for those of you who are keeping up with the details of the thread (not just looking at the plant porno) ;)

I don't think I posted about this earlier on the last page so I thought I'd add it in:

So far, by DAY 97 we have taken a few steps to try to bring the plants in the main flowering room back to life.

- The first thing we did was to add some epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) to try to address the possible Mg deficiency.

- Secondly, we upped the nutrient solution to 100% with a 1.4 EC with a little extra Awesome Blossom to address the Phosphorus deficiency and other possible deficiencies.

- Lastly, the hose from the pump in the resevoir leading to the planter (the one that fills the planter in our Ebb & Flow system) was kinked, and therefore nor working effieciently. I cut about 6" length off of the hose to allow it to drop straight down instead of having slack that created the kink when pressure was applied. Since slicing off all extra slack from the tube, it seems to work MUCH better! :D

Oooh, and one more thing...we had had a debate as whether we wanted to go ahead with the Ebb & Flow (a.k.a Flood & Drain) system for our Main Bloom Room or if we wanted to keep them on the drip system so we could avoid possible floods, etc...and so we would not have to use so much water and nutes.

We decided to go ahead with the Ebb & Flow and it has seemed to work very well. We simply flood and drain twice a day. I believe our timers are set to flood for 15 minutes, then turn off, allowing for the drain.

We dont even have our drip system hooked up anymore. we used it for the left side veg in the beginning, but now that we have only 3 plants in there (#10, #5, & #11a), we have been hand watering them. And since we are using E & F for the flowering room, we are using the same pump from before to pump into the E & F system. We are also using 2 airstones in the resevoir. Our clones up top, and our smaller rubbermaid bloom box are all being hand watered daily also.

Ok, this is the last thing...(I kinda got off on a little tangent up there^. All good info, tho, IMO) Since we decided on the Ebb & Flow system, we needed a MUCH LARGER resevoir to hold all of the water it wouldd take to fully fill that planter. The only one we had on hand was a clear 55L container with a non-clear lid. For the first week, we had no lid on the container, and the sides were clear. NOT a good idea for your res, from what I've read. SO, on DAY 97, we also put this kickass WIDE duct tape onto the sides (covered perfectly - damn you guys have gotta look into buying some of this stuff). So the sides are not letting light in anymore and I also cut some holes in the lid (for the hoses) so I could fit that on too. Good to go!

Ok, that's it for now. What do ya think?

Be cool.

TGF

My dog just pissed on the carpet! :mad: Furious. Anyone wanna take in a 8 year old dog that pisses on the carpet?! Free to a good home! LOL. :(

hemlockstones

10-26-2006, 12:36 PM

Not a deep an insightful response, but I really enjoy your thread with all the plant porn! :D
Keep it going. Those of us with a 5 sq ft closet grow love to live
vicariously through others.
Peace

bud breath420

10-26-2006, 01:07 PM

looking great mate!! hey that picture on the last page of just that purple bud was sweet.. cant wait to see the harvest pics... now thats gonna be plant porn!!

BuddyLove

10-26-2006, 02:45 PM

love the thread foggy

thanks for the plant abuse link very handy

think you should finish the book and get a real grow on
unless your just pullin our plonkers ;)

should you not be lookin for an ec of 2+ after 100 days?

oturbojoeo4o

10-26-2006, 03:58 PM

just stopping by to see those beautiful plants of yours...i transplanted and it made a world of difference in the first 12 hours already they are full of life and growing like a "madman"

TheGreenFog

10-27-2006, 11:12 AM

~hemlockstones~

S'alright. Thanks for the comment. How many plants are you growing in YOUR 5 sqft of closet space. THAT is the question. Hey, I have an extra one I can give ya. ;) hehe

~budbreath420~

What purple bud?? Which post # and pic # are you talking about? Talk about plant porn, just took some new pics! Whew...can't wait to post them. You all will love them...I hope. :D:D

~BuddyLove~

Thanks, man. Just upped the E.C. to about 1.7/1.8. Plants seemed to love it when I upped it last time, so hope it does well this time too. We were just scared to burn them, which is why we kept the E.C. so low and raised it gradually.

~oturbojoeo4o~

Hola. Yea, apparently, if you give their roots a decent space to grow in, THEY LOVE IT! What a concept! LOL. Glad your plant is taking off. Haven't been by your grow in a couple days. Gonna check it out today tho...you stealthy mofo.

GUYS & GALS, got pics of DAY 104...will be posting them over the next few days. They're spectacular...IMO, of course. The buds have...well, grown. STAY TUNED! And keep those comments coming!

Be........cool. :dance:

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-29-2006, 06:11 PM

~DAY 104~

Ok, guys and gals. Time for a Foggy update.

It is DAY 104/32/18 in 'our' grow. We have good news :) and potentially disturbing news :( in each area.

Main Flowering Area - DAY 18 in bloom

GOOD NEWS:

We've all but stopped the problems in our main flowering room. We had dry, dead and dying leaves, and now they seem to be coming back decently. They dead leaves are still dead, the dying are coming back, and we are seeing no new signs of the affliction. There were three possible culprits for this, and since we addressed them all simultaneously, we dont really know which one did it, but I think they all helped some.

1. We have increased our bloom nutes. Good for P, K, and other deficiencies.

2. We have added Magnesium Sulfate.

3. We have unkinked our kinked water tube.

We are also starting to get hundreds, yes hundreds of budsites on our large plants in the flowering room. They are into their 3rd week of flowering, and starting to bud everywhere. The buds are not big, but we expect that to change over the next few weeks.

Temps are excellent. :thumbsup:

POTENTIALLY DISTURBING NEWS:

In our main flowering room. We have about 18" stretch that we would LOVE to eliminate, but don't really see how, without doing major construction. We hope we don't run out of headroom. :( Theses babies have at least 5.5 weeks to go. :eek:

The light penetration is only what everyone says it is 2-3 feet max. The bottom is dark...spooky dark. The canopy is dense. That means some of the bottom shoots will never get enough light. So we've trimmed those off. :(

Well, here's some pics of the monsters. ;)

Oh and I think we measured them somewhere around 46" or something liked that.

:rasta:

TGF

faithlessxxx

10-29-2006, 06:14 PM

Lol, what strain are they?

TheGreenFog

10-29-2006, 06:19 PM

More pics of the Main Flowering Area.

1 - Some top shots.

2 - Some budshots.

3 - Look how the cooltube is sucking the leaf in...hmmm This of course is because we have one end open...and because the plant has grown too high. Not burnt, tho. Cool tubes rock! :thumbsup: We're gonna move up the light a little. We don't have too much more room to do that.

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-29-2006, 06:20 PM

Lol, what strain are they?

Wish i knew...:confused:

Bagseed, faithlessxxx. Brickweed bagseed. Heluva stone, tho. Couchlock sh*t.

TGF

faithlessxxx

10-29-2006, 06:23 PM

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Yeah sorry, just saw the thread title.
Did you build the cool tubes yourselves, and are they simply tubes leading to an exit?
I love the way you're having more fun with your grow than most people, ;)

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BlueBear

10-29-2006, 06:23 PM

You could always throw a late screen up there, kind of like a late screen of green, it has been done before. This may also help you to maximize your light to bud sight ratio. The sooner the better.
Adieu

kilo_420

10-29-2006, 06:25 PM

unless u can bend those babies i think your gonna be screwed on those tops id say chop em and focus on budding the mid shoots so u have room to go up more if you are halfway into flowering already u might be ok if u have a bit more verticle room there plants can double or more their height during the flowering photoperiod nextime around get an indica variety and flower them when they reach about a foot of height
well thats my 2cents
kilo

TheGreenFog

10-29-2006, 06:27 PM

Here's where we trimmed off some of the bottom growth.

MESSAGE TO NEWBIES:

Do NOT let your plants stretch this high. LOL. Seriously. We have like almost half a meter of stretch at the bottom. Nice thick, strong stalks, but look like frickin' outdoor plants, eh?

Note: I will admit...I wanted to make clones out of all these cuttings but...

1. We have no more room for them.

2. I refuse to take cuttings from a plant in it's flower cycle, unless it is done as an experiment, and in that case I would take a top.

RIP, little cuttings. :(

TGF

kilo_420

10-29-2006, 06:27 PM

faithlessxxx

10-29-2006, 06:27 PM

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I agree with BB, screen them carefully 10cm down.

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faithlessxxx

10-29-2006, 06:28 PM

2. I refuse to take cuttings from a plant in it's flower cycle, unless it is done as an experiment, and in that case I would take a top.

Do that!!! I'd be interested to see how well starting clones in flower straight off, or say within a week works out...

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TheGreenFog

10-29-2006, 06:36 PM

Yeah sorry, just saw the thread title.
Did you build the cool tubes yourselves, and are they simply tubes leading to an exit?
I love the way you're having more fun with your grow than most people, ;)

Yea, mang. Bagseed. Got some NL, BG, and different kickass Bagseed for later.

No I did not build the cooltube. We purchased it...then hooked it to tubing and a 265cfm squirrell fan. We have nowhere to lead the intake tube so we left it open. It also helps circulate air in the room. Look back. There are pictures...for sure. ;)

:dance: :rasta: :D :rasta: :dance:

You could always throw a late screen up there, kind of like a late screen of green, it has been done before. This may also help you to maximize your light to bud sight ratio. The sooner the better.
Adieu

We have not considered this. Hmm. Curious. That would be an interesting sight. There is not much room for it, but we could give it a go. Will keep you posted if we do that. Thanks for the idea, BlueBear.

unless u can bend those babies i think your gonna be screwed on those tops id say chop em and focus on budding the mid shoots so u have room to go up more if you are halfway into flowering already u might be ok if u have a bit more verticle room there plants can double or more their height during the flowering photoperiod nextime around get an indica variety and flower them when they reach about a foot of height well thats my 2cents
kilo

Well, we knew we were going to be screwed when we let them veg that long. I tried to convince cohort to chop back then, but nothing doing. S'Ok. Now, they have stretched some, and we may be able to keep up with them, raising the light and such if they dont stretch TOO much more.

As far as the indica/sativa content, this is again, bagseed, so it was pretty much a crapshoot. We would love to have both, though, so we could have some variety. :D Thanks for the comment.

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-29-2006, 06:39 PM

Do that!!! I'd be interested to see how well starting clones in flower straight off, or say within a week works out...

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look at number one. ;) lol

Here's where we trimmed off some of the bottom growth.

MESSAGE TO NEWBIES:

Do NOT let your plants stretch this high. LOL. Seriously. We have like almost half a meter of stretch at the bottom. Nice thick, strong stalks, but look like frickin' outdoor plants, eh?

Note: I will admit...I wanted to make clones out of all these cuttings but...

1. We have no more room for them.

2. I refuse to take cuttings from a plant in it's flower cycle, unless it is done as an experiment, and in that case I would take a top.

RIP, little cuttings. :(

TGF

Well, if we do chop, and have room, I will do the experiment. Cuz I'm dying to know. :thumbsup:

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-29-2006, 06:41 PM

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I agree with BB, screen them carefully 10cm down.

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If we could get 20 cm, that would be kickass. :cool:

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-29-2006, 07:01 PM

~DAY 104~

Here are some veg PICS.

1 - Clones up top. Doing well. If we dont do somethin gabout them NOW, though, they're gonna freaking stretch like the last ones. :(

2 - Two of the clones have gotten too big and have been moved down. They are still getting SOME light from the sides. Meh.

3 - Veg Room. Currently includes clone shelf up top (with 7 plants, I believe), and veg area (2 clones, 3 "mothers") In the veg area are 2 LARGE plants (#5/#10) and one short LST plant (#11a).

4 - Top shot of #11a.

5 - Height dilemma in veg area.

WE have a severe DILEMMA in our veg room. Our two mother plants (#5 and #10) are reaching the top of the veg area. We had discussed training them and flowering just the two of them in our main flowering area once it is vacant. We are saying this because of the success that we have had LSTing our #11a. We want to make "Bonsai Moms" and NOT have these ridiculously tall stretched Mamas. They are nice plants, however and have a crapload of branches. If only I could plant them outside. Alas, that is not possible.

My plan...(this is where I really need your opinion)

I will top the two large plants in the vegetative area, root and grow these tops into short, bushy mothers. Possibly take one or two more clones from the tall plants....

...then...

scrap the tall plant. :( I know it sounds terrible, but we just have nowhere to put them. This will also give us lotsa room downstairs to move our clones that we have up top.

SPACE management is a huge issue here. Let me know what your ideas are. What should we do??

I know this was a little hurried and maybe a little piecemeal, but I'm in a hurry to leave so I will look forward to reading your replies when I return to the PC in a few hours. Please let me know what you think.

I also have a bunch of SEXY f*cking budshots from our Rubbermaid Bloom Box. I will post those pics later.

Peace, homies. :cool: :rasta: :rasta:

TGF

faithlessxxx

10-29-2006, 07:44 PM

look at number one. lol

Hmmm, I don't understand?

If you've got that many clones lying around, why not practice refridging and storing a couple?

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faithlessxxx

10-29-2006, 07:45 PM

If we could get 20 cm, that would be kickass.
You probably can, just not in one go.

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TheGreenFog

10-29-2006, 11:24 PM

Hmmm, I don't understand?

If you've got that many clones lying around, why not practice refridging and storing a couple?

I was just saying that we don't have much/any room left to do anything with any cuttings. :) Maybe we WILL try the fridge storing thing. Hmm. Experimentation, Dr. Jekyll?

You probably can, just not in one go.

Yes, we might do that...but that still leaves me the dilemma in my veg room.

QUICKLY, now. What should we do with the tall towering monsters of Mothers that we have in our veg area??

If we were to LST them, there is no way they would possibly fit in the veg area...

We need room to put the clones from up top...

If we top them, we can control the topped plants more easily...

'MY' idea...is to top the 2 big plants, along with maybe 1 or 2 more clones each. Then, scrap the entire HUGE delicious plant. :( This is a very sad day.

ANY OTHER IDEAS??

TGF

Dankbud

10-30-2006, 06:52 AM

First I'd just like to say that I really enjoy reading your posts... you're very enthusiastic and remind me of one of my college proffs... who drinks waaay too much coffee! :) Got a question and a suggestion...

So i have this friend who has a friend etc. who has a new ballist w/ 250w agrosun bulb (little more than 20,000 lumens). About how much grow area would this light provide? How many plants?

Also about your stretching problem... I dont have any genious LST or screening (dunno wat screening even means) ideas but would it kill you to just move the shelf the plants are sitting on down a little or remove it? May sound like a "newbie" suggestion but just seemed like the obvious solution to me.

Much love- DB

TheGreenFog

10-30-2006, 05:09 PM

LOL, Dank. Thanks, I guess. :D:D

I am not a light expert by any means, but I would say that, depending on how much aread the thing covers, you could probably flower a good 2 to 3 plants under that ligh. Two to be on the safe side. You could veg more than that. Depends on whether you (I mean your friend) have a separate veg cab or are doing all in one cab.

Screening is SCRoGing. (Screen of Green) I always tell people to look up justaseed's thread "lovely ladies" in the search function to see a perfect example of SCRoGing. I dont think I can do that now...and well, I had a horrible mishap trying to envision it (will explain more later about the mishap - it's horrible, though).

I can't move the shelf down without chopping stuff up. Go to the first page to see the build set up. The shelf is complete all the way across. Oh how I would love to move it down. Alas, that is not possible. We shall find a way. :D thanks for the comment.

Much love :rasta:

TGF

BlueBear

10-30-2006, 06:36 PM

The crowd chants, SCREEN OF GREEN, SCREEN OF GREEN!! No, just do what you can buddy.
Adieu

TheGreenFog

10-30-2006, 08:31 PM

Well, Bear, we seriously considered doing a LATE Screen of Green...

...considered it so much that something TERRIBLE happened. Terribly terrible.

But, just so I dont get out of order, I'm going to finish posting the DAY 104 pics. Just have the flowering box left to post. Then onto the BAD news. :(

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-31-2006, 01:38 AM

Update DAY 32 of Bloom in the Rubbermaid box.

These clones were made and flowered simply to sex our larger plants. We originally planned to simply flower to find sex and then trash the clones. Then we did that, removed the males, and said to ourselves "Hey, why not let em finish and see if we can get a few buds."

We didn't veg them properly before flowering, which is why they are so lanky and crappy looking.

BUT, they are forming some nice little buds. Crystally too. Got a few more I'll post in a minute.

Mmmmm. Trichomes.

Everytime I look at my plants, I want to eat them...

What do ya think? Not bad for plants we were gonna ditch! :rasta:

TGF

P.S. The three on the far left are about 2 weeks behind the others.

Cooler Then Jesus

10-31-2006, 05:22 AM

jesus christ
trichome overload! my eyes cant take the weedy goodness

TheGreenFog

10-31-2006, 06:08 AM

More weedy goodness and trichome overload. LOL
:D:D:D

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-31-2006, 06:35 AM

The first two pics are the 3-headed monstrosity. Burn your plant with a CFL (yes, it can happen) and you get 3 buds instead of one. Wicked....CFL FIMing. I think I've invented something here. Eureeka!!

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

10-31-2006, 06:39 AM

Oh, and I think that was the last of DAY 104/32/18. Unless I missed something.

Gonna go back and check. But if I'm right, next installment on TheGreenFOG TV will be......

~DAY 107/35/21~

...Nice fattening buds

...and a twist

...well not really a twist so much as a SNAP! :(

We might be out a whole four-finger! :eek:

Stay tuned...and keep those comments comin'! Love hearing from you guys/gals. :thumbsup:

TGF

doco

10-31-2006, 06:47 AM

I love the three headed monster! And I think you may be on to something after all...a low stress fim? How long did it take them to start growing again after they were burned by the cfl and how long were they burned for? Maybe I'll have to try the "TGF technique" sometime. It would be interesting to see if it's reproducible.

kindprincess

10-31-2006, 09:15 AM

i gess we'll shortly see about the cfl burn theory; one of my blueberrys got the head of a strong branch burnt (not all the way, similar to a fim) so....

i'll deff let you guys know, i'm a sucker for scientific experimentation (wish i had pics of my bb's, like frankenstien's friggin monsters!!) i have a feeling that this will be a record setting first grow yeild with cfl's...

sorry for rambling, it after 4am...

lookin good fog, but did you ever think of a sawzall to quickly and easily remove the shelf? the guys on that building show make it look like a piece of cake!

love, kp:p

TheGreenFog

11-01-2006, 02:13 AM

Hey, guys/girls. :p

~doco~

Well, it sure is an odd way to FIM/top, unorthodox and all, but its basically the same as doing it yourself, I would suppose. I've seen people top plants a week or two into flowering to get two main colas instead of one.

Basically my plant did it itself. I think my light was getting jealous and tried to smoke my plant itself. :cursing: lol It tried to vape it. :(

This also happened to one of the other ones recently, which kinda sucked because it already had a decent sized bud on it so it didn't create the multiple tops, it just started to grow a bunch of leaves near the site. I will post pics soon to show that. Maybe you can see it in some of the pics already posted. It is the one in the rear right side.

Anyway, I wouldn't suggest doing this (intentionally burning your plant), but you could top/FIM it a couple weeks (1 or 2) into flowering to see if it will give you some better results. Most likely, you will get 2 tops, but if you FIM right, you might get 3 or more. :D :D :D

~kindprincess~

Keeping up with your grow. Hope everythin goes well. Very dissapointed that you don't have pics. :( Like I said, I would send you a frickin' camera if I could. I wanna see Sage. :)

As far as the shelf...I didn't say I couldn't remove the shelf...I said it would require chopping it up, which I don't really want to do. The only reason I would lower it is because we let these plants get too big before flower (veg too long - too much stretch), but that wont happen next time and the shelf should stay where it is.

We also need the room under the shelves for our resevoirs. :D So, choppins a no go. We're just hoping they dont "double" in size. They've stretched a bit since flowering, but hopefully they will slow down and just start building budmass. We've got a little more vertical room to work with them. Pray for us. :D

Thanks for the comments, guys (and girl). ;)

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-03-2006, 10:13 PM

Bump.

Look out for new updates later tonight! They're growin' like WEEDS!! :thumbsup:

:rasta: RastafarI

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 06:31 AM

~DAY 107/35/21~

DAY 107 from seed
DAY 35 flower in BodomBox
DAY 21 flower in Main Room

Ok ladies & gentlemen...

Welcome to another episode of JOURNAL OF A MADMAN on TheGreenFogTV!

Weâ??ve got lots of pictures for you guys this time. Weâ??ve done some major rearranging and had some ups and downs. The excitement never ends! Will the plants make it to harvest? Will the grower be shocked by electricity and pass out in the grow room? Will a household pet single-handedly (or â??single-pawedlyâ??) take down all the whole setup?!? Stay tuned. Weâ??ll be back after a word from our sponsorsâ?¦

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Well, weâ??re back, and visiting the mysterious anonymous Closet Grow Roomâ?¦of death. :D

Today, we will first visit the lovely blooming Rubbermaid Box (a.k.a The BodomBox).

As a small recap for those of you just joining us, the plants in this box were not meant to be fully flowered, but used as test-clones to sex the corresponding mother plants. Boy, weâ??re sure glad we let continue to grow. They are looking scrumptious. We should get at least an ounce or more from this to hold us over until the Main Room is done. :rasta:

This box has been so very easy to maintain up til now. Just keep your eyes on it, so that you donâ??t burn plants, and youâ??ll be alright. Water, thatâ??s all. They have been getting SO crystally. I think that is due to the use of the â??full spectrumâ? CFLs. Yeaâ?¦nice. Any questions?

Ok here are some picsâ?¦

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 06:37 AM

Some more flower pics from the BodomBox. Those buds are getting to look so nice. Plump and crystally. Can't wait. I think pic #3 is the 3 headed monster.

faithless

11-05-2006, 06:47 AM

Mmm...tasty...

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 06:51 AM

~DAY 107~

Here are our Veg pics. We got lots of rearranging to do. We have once again run out of room in our small little veg room. :(

In our veg room, we currently have 2 LARGE redwoods...well, they are tall friggin' plants. We don't have any room for them...they just keep growing, and our original solution (flowering them next) will not work because of their height. We have decided...sadly...that the only solution is to take a couple of clones...and get rid of them. That's right, we're going to trash TWO 3 1/2 foot plants. I wish they could've gone to a good home...alas...they will end up in the compost heap.

Pic #1 & #2: Our plant #11a...it is being LST'd. NICE.

Pic #3: Our "mother plants" Mambo #5 and #10 are growing to the ceiling of their veg space.

Pic#4 & #5: Mambo #5 and plant #10...walking the plank. These plants are taller than one meter. :D :(

Take a good look. ;)

TGF

kindprincess

11-05-2006, 06:52 AM

is it me? or does the three headed monster look like a four headed monster, now?

hi fog, i think i may have developed a training method with your name... kp's forest of green (maaaaan, i WISH i had a friggin camera!!!)

ne way, just poppin in...

love, kp :p

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 06:56 AM

Hi, kindprincess. I'll have to go back and look...it's definitely getting plump...I think I still see only three heads...but hey. You know what they say: "4 heads is better than 3." Lol.

I wish you had a camera too. WTF is that all about? :D

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 07:00 AM

Oh...I forgot to add these couple pictures in before...

This is a glance at how crowded we are getting on the left side.

And pic#3 is our cloning shelf up top. Pretty much at its limit also.

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 07:14 AM

So...we pulled out #5 & #10.

Took clones.

Then...we gotta get rid of them. There is no room, unfortunately.

Look at these rootballs! We squeezed all the hydroton out again to reuse.

;)

Taps playing in background

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 07:18 AM

One more. S'more roots.

Two dying soldiers...

...to the grave.

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 07:24 AM

Since we got the two monsters out, we have room to bring down our clones.

We also are being more selective this time and getting rid of some of the weaker ones. :D

I hate throwing away guaranteed female plants. :( It makes me sad.

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 07:30 AM

We topped a couple that were getting away on us.

We fixed the wiring situation...

...if you look back, you will see we were trying to get the wiring up out of the bottom compoartment where the water was. We did that, and brought it it up onto the left side, but didn't get around to nailing it up to the wall and it sat in the side next to the planter. We decided to hurry up and put it on the wall before someone got exectricuted. This decision was hurried along when water was splashed out of the planter, onto the wooden shelf and ONTO the powerstrip. It was immediately dried, nothing shorted, and we commenced raising the wires. Now it is all nice and neat. Behold. :p

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 07:35 AM

Set the plants we have left into their places. We still have our Bonsai Mama #11a taking up a lot of room...but there is room for the other clones. :D Side lighting rocks. ;) Now, we'll try to keep these girls from stretching like their mothers did. Topping, LST, keep the light close. OK. :thumbsup:

*takes puff off joint*

New clones up top. This will be our 3rd run of clones. We've had 100% rooting success rate. We just threw some away but they could've grown into normal plants with a little care...so our virtual success rate with clones is 100%. Olivia's rocks. Humidomes rock. Seaweed rocks. Hydroton rocks. :thumbsup:

Nice new fresh veg room. Nice and neat. Back to manageable size. With a few casualties....meh.

:rasta: RastafarI

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 07:47 AM

Onto the Main Flowering room. This is ~DAY 21~ of flower. End of three weeks.

Plants are 50 inches. Over 4 feet tall from base of stem. Huge stretch at bottom, but top is pretty dense and branchy. This came from the plants living the first part of their life under weak flourescents (and not enough of them or kept closely enough)...then being switched to 400w HPS for some veg time before being flipped into 12/12 under 400w HPS.

Plants are starting to grow LOTS of budsites. I counted at least 60-70 on just the front plant alone.

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 07:56 AM

The plants are stretching...some more than others. This one out front, number 13, has started to really be showing Sativa traits. If you look back to Day 104, you will see a really cool pic of the top of this plant, kind of like pic #4 here. Pay attention to this plant...something horrible shall happen to it. :(:(

Pic#5 is a shot showing the plant in the back corner is still getting sucked into the cool tube. We already had raised the light once because of this, but this time we are going to pull the plant away from the light. The plants seem to be pretty comfortable with the light, which is only inches away from the tallest plant. Cooltubes rock.

Observation: The plants that are receiving light, direct light (close) have less trichomes than those that are receiving adaquate but not overly intense light. Just a small theory. Also, the plants in the rubbermaid bloombox are much more crystally than these large plants. Curious. Maybe, there is a correlation between 'too much' direct light and trichome production...just a though.

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 08:13 AM

Ok. So here is how it went...

I came on here asking what we should do for our height problems seeing as we have huge mammoth plants in the right side and they might "double" in size. Someone mentioned something about trying to SCRoG them now...

So...and I'm not blaming the person who said that (I think it was Bear, I may be wrong) because I was the stupid idiot who manhandled the plants like I was wrestling a bear. ;)

So, trying to envision what such a late SCRoG screen would look like, I said, well, what if I gently bent this top stem so it ran horizontal like this...

...SNAP!...

..."Son of a #@*&!, Mother %*&#@$!...etc." Then I quickly grabbed some electrical tape, which was the closest thing I could find...and taped the tree back up where it had "bent." Look at pic #2 about 18 inches down from the top :( see the black tape...this is right after it happened.

Pic #3,4,5 are about 15 minutes later. :( :(

I also made a small mixture of water and superthrive and administered it to the wounded area. I don't think it will help.

I spoke with someone on chat (Tra*no*ble) who told me that it would be fine! That he does it all the time and I just have to tape it up and it will repair itself. WHOA...I said. That is a relief. Then he said, well that's in soil, which is a little more forgiving...I dunno about hydro.

So, we'll see. Cohort wants to cut it off and smoke what buds it has. I say leave it on and see how it is in a week. What do you all think? Sad, sad sh*t, huh? I guesstimate that if that top, with all those branches, dies...we will lose a good 30-40 grams, over an ounce. :mad:

Advisory: Be careful with your plants. Don't snap them like a friggin' moron. Have a nice day. :thumbsup:

Well, we move on. :dance:

*takes puff of joint*

:rasta:

TGF

Cornelius

11-05-2006, 08:41 AM

it'll be fine, just give it a week

you'll see

TheGreenFog

11-05-2006, 09:11 AM

Thanks, Cornelius. Hope so. (fingers crossed) Otherwise, how do they look?

By the way, that is the end of the pictures from DAY 107/35/21. Hit me up with some comments/questions/advice. :D

Stay tuned to TheGreenFogTV!

:rasta:

Be cool. Be love.

TGF

Edit: For those of you who came straight to the end of the thread...this update started on the bottom of the last page. :D There's a lotta action! :thumbsup:

bud breath420

11-05-2006, 01:17 PM

lookin good man!! shame about those that you had to kill.. but shit happens huh?

JEFFAR420

11-05-2006, 03:41 PM

God damn Fog, Lookin great. A question about your post (number 385).. How do you have 3 plants in that one giant container with all the hydro rocks? Is it only with soil that more then one plant per pot become a problem?

InsomniaBomber420

11-06-2006, 03:31 AM

OMG U ARE A FUCKIN GENIUSS GREENFOG I WISH I COULD GROW LIKE THAT

TheGreenFog

11-06-2006, 05:48 AM

lookin good man!! shame about those that you had to kill.. but shit happens huh?

Yea. Sucks. It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. :(

God damn Fog, Lookin great. A question about your post (number 385).. How do you have 3 plants in that one giant container with all the hydro rocks? Is it only with soil that more then one plant per pot become a problem?

~JEFFAR420~ Actually, there are FIVE plants in the main flowering room. All of them were grown in rockwool blocks, and then sunk into a bed of hydroton pebbles. This has not created any problem like you are referring to. It's not exactly the same as having more than one plant in a 'pot' because this is not a pot, it's a planter. In any case, there are some people who do this same thing with soil. ;) I don't really know how the roots are growing (whether they are all intertwined with eachother or not) but will know when it is harvest time. You will see. :D:D

OMG U ARE A FUCKIN GENIUSS GREENFOG I WISH I COULD GROW LIKE THAT

Thanks for the nice comment, man. Not a genius, though. Just a wanna-be green thumb. Just learned everything I know mostly from this site. But, hell, this is an imaginary grow anyway. :thumbsup:

THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT COMMENTS. :) :D :) :D :)

:rasta: :rasta

TGF

bud breath420

11-07-2006, 07:46 AM

lol so your a frog now.. lol

Bree1978

11-07-2006, 01:09 PM

OH thank goodness...I've been reading your imaginary log...and each time I am like FOG not FROG, Fog, not Frog...I like frog better, and it makes it easier for morons like me to read! Keep up the great fantasy. And sorry you snapped that one....looks like something I would do....hope the cannabis gods repair it.

faithless

11-07-2006, 01:10 PM

.

Heh, I thought it was to avoid being mixed up with a green fag...

.

ticoblunts

11-07-2006, 04:16 PM

.

Heh, I thought it was to avoid being mixed up with a green fag...

.

why you gotta be so hard on the green fog !! He's the man!! Grow on brotha!! Remember the grow gods got your back !! I talked to them this morning...they appeared to me in a cloud of smoke wafter exhaling from the bong !!:thumbsup:

ticoblunts

11-07-2006, 04:17 PM

Yo Id also like to add...that frog is SWEET!! We have those down here in the CR !

faithless

11-07-2006, 04:23 PM

Hard??? I seriously thought that. Sorry if it was offensive, I find the old frog to be one of the most pleasant people here.

TheGreenFog

11-07-2006, 08:48 PM

~budbreath420~

Ribbit~ribbit...

Bud....smoke....er :smokin:

~Bree1978~

Ya, mon. I was like, well, everyone keeps calling me Frog, so I might as well play along for a while. I changed my avatar to a lake with green fog over it...didnt help...MJ leaf with emminating green foggy rays...didn't help...

So, I decided to play along, plus I found this cool picture of this green frog...and he looks HIGH to me! :D:D :smokin: Niiice.

Thanks for the comments on the thread. I'm glad you enjoy the pics. It sure does take a lot of work to post them, so I'm glad they are appreciated. ;)

~faithless~

C'mon. You're joking right?

~ticoblunts~

Thanks, man! You the man, too, man. :D I can't wait to see your harvest. Those T5s look like they are worth it, at least for the vegetable stage...lol vegetative... You see Deities in your smoke?!?! Whoa, we gotta cheif together.

It's a high, green, tree FROG! :p

~faithless~

You seriously thought that? Wow. Well, in any case, no that's not why. Thanks for your comments, man. :thumbsup: Nice beagle. :D

I hope I can get some pics up today. Got some updates from DAY 111 !

Stay cool...stay smokin'...:rasta: RastafarI

TGF

Bodom Children Of

11-07-2006, 09:13 PM

I've seen that you were getting mad about people calling you frog and now you give in.....lmao
grow on fRog

TheGreenFog

11-07-2006, 09:36 PM

Not mad. Frustrated, maybe. Confused, sure. Not mad. I just thought I'd test and see how many people call me Frog, now! I'll change it back later, probably. Grow on, Bodom! :thumbsup: :D:D:D

Damn, Page 17...is anyone gonna read this thread anymore? :( It's too long, now. Should I start another one? That would be weird, though.

What do you all think?

TGF

Bree1978

11-07-2006, 10:18 PM

Are you being serious? And risk not having a legend thread for all to see? I would think that the anonymous person who left that on your doorstep would be seriously pissed.....! ;)

TheGreenFog

11-07-2006, 10:51 PM

You're right, Bree1978. I would have let him/her down, huh? Ok, nevermind that, then. All of you who want to experience the wonderfulness that is this thread will have to just take your time and read through it! :D

There is A LOT of info in it when you take the time...building closet, planting, seedling stage, vegetative, stretching :(, cloning, sexing, flowering, topping, LST, FIM, flourescents, HPS lamp, mylar, hydro, rockwool, hydroton, nutes, temps, exhaust and much much more...not to mention an @$$load of pics. :thumbsup:

Anything I missed or did not explain fully, please feel free to ask! And I'm always open to other comments, criticism, and feedback! Thanks.

EnJoY! Thanks, Bree.

:rasta:

TGF

JEFFAR420

11-07-2006, 11:49 PM

TheGreenFog

11-08-2006, 03:37 AM

I agree keep the thread alive.

Haha I noticed the new avatar aswell. Now they would never even notice that it says fog not that they did before.. People will just think you spelt your name wrong...

Keep up the amazing work!

Well, that will never do! I don't want people to think I couldn't even spell my own name right! That's almost as bad as spelling the title to your own thread wrong...:upsidedow

Awww, man I'm gonna have to fix that...maybe...just maybe...(pondering) Maybe I can add some green FOG onto the frog. Brilliant! lol

Thanks, JEFFAR420.

:rasta:

TGF

Pass That Shit

11-09-2006, 03:11 AM

Did the dude PASS THAT SHIT when you tested it as your avatar?

Thanks again for offering it to me. That was nice of you. :thumbsup:

I wouldn't even sweat the whole FROG thing. It was something the eye could easily overlook. I know I didn't mean any harm when I made that same mistake at first. Personally, I would embrace it and go with GreenFrog. I signed up as PASS THAT SHIT as a joke to comment on a thread without realizing I was gonna get hooked on this site. Now I'm committed to a name most people don't want to repeat. What's done is done. And don't you dare start another thread until this one is complete. :pimp:

TheGreenFog

11-09-2006, 03:25 AM

~your avatar~

Hey, man. Yea, you're welcome for the avatar. It's perfect for you...now if it would just MOVE! I tested it, and no, it didn't move for me either. I DID read somewhere recently about the fact that it might not move if it is 'too large of a file'...? But it moved when I posted it on your thread to give it to you...weird.

I dunno how to do it...Maybe someone can help you with that. Go onto the avatar thread up in the C Lounge. Ask souldistortion. He's apparently good with avatars/gifs and sh*t, so maybe he can help ya. Tell him I sent ya. LOL j/k

~my avatar~

Yea, I know people don't "purposely" make the mistake...it's just amazing (to me) how many people make it. Plus, I was getting a little tired of my leaf one (but it will be back) so I thought I'd change it up. If I could go back, I might have made my name TheGreenFrog, but now that I think about it, I would've just made it TheGreenMist or something if I knew what I know now. :)

~my thread~

Anyway, it was a fleeting idea...but, no I won't start another thread...well, not now at least. Dunno when, tho...cuz I have a feeling this one might NEVER END! (gasp)

What I mean by that is...this mysterious JOURNAL is much larger than you might think. If you haven't noticed, it is set up as a perpetual system. It also mentions something in it about Bubblegum...Northern Lights...and some other thing called Kush... :) So, hopefully, he will find me again...and leave another comp book w/cds at my doorstep. :D:D:D That would be cool, huh?

:rasta: <---yessah!

TGF

stinkyattic

11-09-2006, 06:39 PM

TGF[r]og...
Love the root shots! We don't get to see nearly enough of those.
Did you end up killing the clones or not?
What's going on in your grow at the moment? Please don't kill this thread- you have great results!

TheGreenFog

11-12-2006, 07:35 PM

~stinky~

Hey, yea, not gonna kill the thread...not now, at least. Getting busy here lately, though, so that's why I haven't been on as much.

Those roots are sexy, eh? I was surprised when we yanked them outta the pot! Whoa.

About the clones...which ones did you mean when you asked if I ended up killing them or not? We killed a couple weak clones and we killed 2 large mother plants due to lack of space. We cloned them before they were dispactched, so their blood lives on. I think I explained all that, not sure.

Anyway, just checkin' in and bumping the thread up so new people can take a gander and have some time to catch up...lol.

There is a lot going on. I am about 2 weeks behind in posting. I have at least 100 more pics to post and more to say! Hope I will be able to catch up by tomorrow or the next day. Keep checking in...more plant pic porn (ppp) coming to a monitor near you!

Gotta go!

Be cool...be mellow...be love. One love.

:rasta: RastafarI.

TGF

Weed4Life

11-12-2006, 11:31 PM

Keep up the good work and keep it green!

invision

11-13-2006, 12:12 AM

damn fog i leave you alone for a few weeks and i come back to this......damn.

man youve got your shit down great job, i myself just got my cab back up and running as i needed a bigger exhaust vent maybe you can ship me some clones when you have it down pact.

TheGreenFog

11-13-2006, 11:13 PM

Thanks for the kudos, guys! Makes me feel all warm & fuzzy on the inside....oh no wait, that's the weed I just smoked. :D:D:D

I've spent all my damn time today responding to other threads, not updating my own. I'm going to do that starting now. I hope I can get us caught up by tomorrow. lol. I've got at least 150 pics to go through!

Stay tuned...the next episode of JOURNAL OF A MADMAN coming to a monitor near you, starting...now!

Be happy. Be rasta. :rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 01:23 AM

~DAY 111/39/25~

DAY 111 since the seeds were planted.

-There are no original plants from the first 13 left vegging. Some have been flowered (5), some have been males & therefore culled (3), the others have been killed due to poor health or lack of space.

DAY 39 flower for 7/10 plants in the rubbermaid box.

DAY 25 flower for the main flowering room and 3/10 of the plants in the rubbermaid box.

I'll start out with some pictures of the vegetative room.

There are 6 smaller plants in there (I think), and one larger one.

The smaller plants in the back are the last run of clones that have been moved down.

The larger plant is the large #11a that was a top from one of the original 13 and 'we' have grown it into a monster. We are debating whether to flower it, or to create a Bonsai Mum.

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 01:28 AM

Here are pictures of PLANT #11a.

Anyone wanna name it so I can stop calling it 11a?

This plant was a top to begin with...then 'we' topped it...LSTd it, and keep repeating. Kinda like shampoo (top, lst, repeat as necessary). It is getting bushy. It's not exactly balanced, but I think that has something to do with the lighting and spacing. We're trying to move it and fix it. What should we do with it later...hypothetically...? :D Flower or become Bonsai Mum? :confused:

I love tops. They are my heart...:p

Be cool.

TGF

brookerosebud

11-14-2006, 01:31 AM

fog! help!check out controlled pollenation in basic groing

love, brooke

please hurry....

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 01:53 AM

Here are the clones that are 'behind' the #11a. They were the 2nd run of clones and rooted beautifully, vegged up in the cloning area, then got moved down here (4 days ago, I believe) when the LARGE mothers were sacrificed. :( RIP.

What are we gonna do with those? Flower them? LST them? hmmm...

And, there are is 3rd run of clones up top (pics# 3,4,5) from the plants we ditched on DAY 107. We still have remnants of Mambo #5 and Bony Ten.

TGF

brookerosebud

11-14-2006, 02:02 AM

sog, sog, sog, sog, sog, sog:)

Bodom Children Of

11-14-2006, 02:07 AM

Are you being serious? And risk not having a legend thread for all to see? I would think that the anonymous person who left that on your doorstep would be seriously pissed.....! ;)

that's funny...i remember when you started it you told me that too...i believed you at first...lmao

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 02:44 AM

sog, sog, sog, sog, sog, sog:)

My thought is to sog some clones in the rubbermaid BodomBox like currently...and then grow some nice big branchy suckers for the main...dunno. Sog for the win, eh?

that's funny...i remember when you started it you told me that too...i believed you at first...lmao

What do you mean "at first?" This is NOT my grow. The JOURNAL was left on my doorstep...just like I disclaimed in the first post. Lets just 'act' like it's mine. That's funner, huh? :D :D How do you like the LSTd one, Bodom??

Be stealthy...like a yetti..

:rasta: RastafarI

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 02:47 AM

Oh, by the way, I forgot to say (even though you could figure it out with simple math), those clones up top are 4 days old in that pic. Right? :o

Here is a wide shot...onto the main flowering room. Let's take a look at the monster plants and the one that I snapped. :( Let's see how she's faring.

:D:D:D

I love cannabis.

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 07:26 AM

Ok...got distracted for a minute. Now I'll start with some FLOWERING PICS.

Here is the right side or Main Flowering Area.

There are 5 plants in there. They are all huge...well 4 are huge, and the one in the middle is dwarfed by the others' presence...it will probably not yeild as much, as it is blocked by the dense canopy.

If you look, you will notice the one in the front is the one that was broken, that is why it looks like sh*t, but it is actually alive...:confused: confused, but happy....ok well, pics...here...

TGF

Edit: The download is slow so I might not finish in this sitting.

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 07:34 AM

But there is good news. The other plants are thriving and growing. :D

What do you think so far?

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 07:41 AM

Here are the rest of the pics from the main flowering area.

Pic #1: Some lower budsites.

Pic #2: Worm's-eye view up the cola. :D

Pic #3: Top of plant pulled away from light/exhaust. (lst?)

That is all I have of the main flowering room for DAY 25 (in there), but stay tuned for more budshots when I finish up DAY 111 completely with DAY 39 of bloom in the BodomBox!

:rasta: RastafarI

TGF

bud breath420

11-14-2006, 11:26 AM

mmmm... so beautiful...:greenthumb: :greenthumb: :greenthumb:

stinkyattic

11-14-2006, 04:47 PM

Here are pictures of PLANT #11a.

Anyone wanna name it so I can stop calling it 11a?

Call it Kermit...

:D

Looking good!

JEFFAR420

11-14-2006, 08:09 PM

Call her Jeff.

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 08:22 PM

Thanks, Budbreath and Stinky.

I probably will use that name, Stinky. :D Hell, I haven't gotten any alternatives. :D

I 'approved' your post about the name...and left a comment. Can you see the comment?

(edit) ANYONE who hasnt seen the updates, go back a page...here come some more...

Well, I'm going to try to do some updating now. Stay tuned, peeps!

Love, love.

:rasta:

TGF

Edit: Lol, Jeffar420, just saw that while I finished posting...I think I like Kermit better. ;)

I should call it weedpoke...:weedpoke:

stinkyattic

11-14-2006, 08:28 PM

I like this thread! It's fun.

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 09:37 PM

Ok, guys and gals. Welcome back! The Green Fog here.

We're still on DAY 111/39/25 in the JOURNAL.

Everytime we update, we update the veg room, the main flowering room and the BodomBox (rubbermaid bloombox). Lots to update, but that just means lots of pics! :yippee:

We've done the veg room, and the main flowering room :baggie:

Now, DAY 39 flowering updates in the BodomBox. Keep in mind, the 3 on the left of the box are at DAY 25 (in concert with the main flowering room). It just happened that way. I explained why way back there somewhere.

So...on with the show. :smokin:

Pic #1 & 2: Wide shots of the box.

Pic #3: Damage...from what? Mites? I can't find any, anywhere...but then there is this....

Pic #4 & 5: Nice bud...one of my favorites. Very crystally, but LOOK at the 'Mold'...? Spider webs??? Still don't see any mites or anything...:confused:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 10:36 PM

Here's summore.

They're getting so fat! Mmmm I'm starting to like fat girls. :dance:

TGF

salezzi

11-14-2006, 10:41 PM

how did u keep ur plants so nice and small

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 10:46 PM

Summore...someone is shutter-happy. :D

Comments? Questions? Advice? Bonghits?

:rastabong:

:rasta:

TGF

salezzi

11-14-2006, 10:54 PM

yea

how did u keep ur plants so nice and small

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 11:16 PM

how did u keep ur plants so nice and small

~Salezzi~

You mean in the BodomBox?

Well, I've explained it like 5 times in this thread, but I know it's a lot to look through, so I'll explain it again. :)

Short version:

13 plants were grown. When they were big enough to clone, I took a clone from each plant. These clones were taken for the sole purpose of 'sexing' the plants.

This means, that we root these clones, and immediately flower them after they have rooted sufficiently. We vegged these a little but basically they were thrown into the box shortly after they were rooted with little to no veg time.

After about 11 days, they showed sex. 3 males were discarded. Then we realized we didn't have all 13 plants represented. So, we cloned the remaining three, rooted them, and threw them in there too. They are even smaller. They had NO veg time. Just rooting then flowering. (see pic below)

The original plan was to sex the plants, then throw away the 'sexing' test-clones and focus on the main flowering room. BUT we said, why not leave them to flower and see what we get. I'm glad we did. They are not the best. But from what I see sofar, I think it will produce at least an ounce or so. Not bad for some temporary smoke until the main flowering room is ready (2 weeks behind), eh? ;)

Anyway, hope that answered your question. :D Thanks for stopping by. Hope you enjoy.

:rasta: RastafarI

TGF

~hypothetically~

c of green

11-14-2006, 11:22 PM

:D i love fat girls:D and if i wasn't married already i would be asking for your girls hand.:D
seriously they are "loooooking gooooooooooood"
the fonz told me to say that:D
or maybe the weed and beer did:stoned: :stoned:

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 11:26 PM

Pic #1 & 2: 'The 3-headed monster' Burnt by a CFL, grew 3 tops instead of 1.

Pic #3 & 4: BodomBox = I love Cannabis

Pic # 5: Another plant that was burnt by a CFL but it was burnt later on. It burnt the bud, and caused it to grow lots of leaves in in the bud. Very weird.

TGF

:abduct:

TheGreenFog

11-14-2006, 11:32 PM

c of green

11-14-2006, 11:59 PM

:joint2:

OregonsDank

11-15-2006, 12:01 AM

Looks great! Really makes me wish I wasn't out of nug right now!

c of green

11-15-2006, 12:18 AM

just so you know my thread has been updated*hint hint*:D :stoned:

TheGreenFog

11-15-2006, 12:28 AM

Thanks, OregonsDANK!

Here...have some of this...~~~> :baggie:

...and put it in your :pipe: or your :rastabong: and smoke it! :smokin:

:D :dance:

C of Green, I just looked at your thread...saw the info... Looks like you got it down, pretty well. Didn't see any pictures. :( I will look again. PICS! :D

HERE ARE THE LAST PICTURES FROM DAY 111/25/39 :D:D:D

Going stealth mode...

:420thought:

TGF

c of green

11-15-2006, 12:51 AM

yeah the pics are on the bottom of page one....been a little talking since then

p.s. how often are you gonna change the avatar?until people realize you are fog not frog?
sorry but i do get a giggle every time someone calls you frog

p.s.....again......is that RO water or did you go buy that much?

TheGreenFog

11-15-2006, 01:01 AM

Gonna go look now.

Avatars...yes...until they stop calling me that...or until I get tired of the frog pics...or until I find a good avatar to leave up there and say forget those who can't read. ;) lol I can't wait til someone tells me that I spelled my name wrong and I'm an idiot. hehe :o

RO water...yes, RO H2O...that it is...yes it is Reverse Osmosis water...yep...uh huh...yup.

:rasta: RastafarI

TGF

faithless

11-15-2006, 02:26 AM

.

Fog, you seem impressed at the results of topping, and I don't mean your FIB (Fuck I Burned). Do you recommend it? YOu've had the chance to compare both LST and topping in real time, right? Did it set you back much timewise?

.

TheGreenFog

11-15-2006, 04:47 AM

I can honestly say...I like topping & LST the same. I think they go hand in hand. I don't know if I would ever "not" top a plant. 2 tops are more manageable than one...I top, then LST...then top some more...and keep LSTing. We did FIM also, and it seemed to work. That's good too.

I would like to try supercropping...and more FIMing...hey maybe some more FIBing... :dance:

As far as the "time" thing goes, I really would have to go back and look to see how much it "set us back" because there is really nothing to compare it too. I am sure the plants have been growing slower since the topping and LSTing, but really have needed that to wait for the flowering to finish! :)

Did I answer your question? I'm kind of spread thin here so I'm a little distracted. Let me know, and I'll re-type. :D

Be...coool.

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-15-2006, 04:47 PM

Thank you to everyone who has given me Reputation points. I don't know who you are, but thanks! Put your name in the comment, and I'll give you some too. :D

Guess what...?

I've been slacking, BUT I have more updates! Keep checking in today for DAY 114/42/28 pics! :D

I had also asked some questions about what you all think of the possible spidermite problem...and other questions...no answers? :(

Can't wait to hear from you guys! :D:D:D

I can't smoke right now, so someone please smoke one for me. :rasta:

:abduct:

TGF

c of green

11-15-2006, 05:38 PM

well i just found a bud that i had been drying out and forgotten about....smoked out me and two friends.....consider that one for you:stoned: :stoned: :stoned: :D

stinkyattic

11-15-2006, 08:23 PM

F[r]og...Is that pic of all the water jugs a heat sink for even ing out temps, or just your water supply in case of disaster? :D

Looking good still!

As for spidermites, keep your temps cool, your breeze breezy, and use lots o' neem during veg and on into the first couple weeks of flower. They HATE that crap!

faithless

11-15-2006, 10:56 PM

.

Thanks for the reply Fog.
Since youre a sociable kind of guy as well as the Clone Master, I'm going to ask another no-patience question, lol...Just cloned for the first time, did it by the book, sterilized everything, rhizopon, humidator, little or no nutes left in them, cut away leaves for nodes to be powdered, etc etc etc...The thing is, They're still fresh and perky after 4 hours. Is that a sign of anything? I usually read things like they wilt within minutes etc, and I'm hoping this is a good sign so far...

.

TheGreenFog

11-15-2006, 11:59 PM

~Stinky~

I wish I could say they were something cool like a 'heat sink' (even though they might be one inadvertantly), but...alas...it's nothing that complicated. Just lotsa RO H2O. Water-porn. lol :D

Well, temps in the BodomBox (where the damage is and webs are) are cool (78F)...Breeze is kinda breezy...and there was no neem used during veg or flowering and it's too late now. There has been no more damage so we hope that was just a freak accident. I would still like to know what it is, though. :o

~faithless~

Hey, bruddah. Thanks for the props. I am not necessarily the Cloning Master, I just have learned how and have not failed...hypothetically...and I really think it is easy to do.

Anyway, on the first run of our clones, we had some wilting and yellowing after about 5 or 6 days if I remember correctly, but they still all lived. On the 2nd run, they wilted less about 4-5 days in...lived. 3rd run, so far, very little to no wilting. They look healthy and have all rooted wonderfully and are vegging. No worries about the lack of wilting. You'll be ok. I recently posted somewhere my method for cloning. Very simple and basic. I dont even really sterilize stuff any more. :o lol Just use a new razor, gel, and seaweed.

Dont worry, they're fine. Love them. Hope this helps.

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-16-2006, 04:48 AM

Well, I thought I was going to be updating again cuz I have some pics...but it seems like I can't right now. I will at a later time.

I will probably be off the site for a while (1-2 weeks or more), but will update as soon as I get back. I'm gonna try to be back ASAP cuz I love it here! :)

Feel free to ask any questions, leave any comments, or anything else in the meantime to give me something to respond to when I come back (& to keep the thread bumped up. ;)) Thanks!

Hey, the bright side is, maybe this will give some people time to read the first 18 pages and catch up. lol

Love you guys. Luv, luv, luv...One love.

Smoke sum for me. :smokin: Be cool.

:rastasmoke:

TGF

P.S. Here is one pic of DAY 114/42/29. Pic of the 3-headed monster at 6 weeks of flowering. ;)

c of green

11-16-2006, 03:34 PM

well fog hurry back.at least now i won't have to check in on your thread for a few days....save me a little time:D and i will definately smoke one then another and then another....................................for ya.:stoned: :stoned:

stinkyattic

11-16-2006, 04:16 PM

Be back soon! :D

TheGreenFog

11-19-2006, 04:26 AM

Have a few minutes...been keepin' my eye on some threads and stuff.

~Pass That Shit~ You seem to be getting close...So is that a White Widow or not?? :) Why are all of the ends of your leaves clipped off? Looks like you had a few problems, eh? A good HPS grow takes care of that. ;)

~Faithless~ How are the clones looking? What kind of cloning powder did you use? You said you used powder, right? Any roots yet?

~Stinky~ How are the Papayas, and other fruitinesses in your attic? I'll have to check in later to see. How's the dog? Still stinky? :)

As for me, got lots of updates coming soon...Getting close to harvesting the BodomBox...Few more weeks. Hopefully I will be able to get on sometime in the next couple of days for an update. Stay tuned. :)

:rastasmoke: RastafarI

TGF

bump

TheGreenFog

11-20-2006, 05:49 PM

Ok, guys. Well, I'm back in the saddle again. Didn't take me as long as I thought. Can't keep myself away. LOL

Anyway, here we start DAY 114/42/29

We'll start with the BodomBox (Rubbermaid BloomBox)

These are "supposedly" at 42 days (6 weeks) now, although I fear we may have messed up a bit on the DAY count... :( Meh, oh well...here they are anyway

Be cool.

:rastasmoke:

TGF

P.S. It's probably going to take me all of the day to finish the update, so keep checking in!

TheGreenFog

11-20-2006, 05:52 PM

Here are some more. Pics #2,3, & 4 are the "three-headed monster" I created by FIBing...:D

:rastasmoke:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-20-2006, 06:00 PM

Here are the last pics of the BodomBox on DAY 42. Have a gander. :D:D

Now, let's go to our sponsors for a commercial break:

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*smokes a puff* :rasta: :pimp: :rastasmoke: :stoned: :smokin:

Coming up next...THE VEG ROOM

We will have lots of goodies (pics) for you. Bonsai MOM, LSTing, cloning, and much much more!! Stay tuned to TheGreenFogTV! ;)

GFog out...

:rastasmoke:

TGF

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BuddyLove

11-20-2006, 08:43 PM

love the pics mate

TheGreenFog

11-20-2006, 10:20 PM

Welcome back. I know it was a bit of a long break, but hey, you know how it is. Had to roll a joint and smoke it...then one more...then do some stuff, then OH yea, we're on a commercial break. lol. Anywayz, back to some pics.

BTW, Thanks for the comment, BuddyLove.

Next up on the schedule is the vegetative room. First are some photos of the clones. This is the 3rd run of clones. Unfortunately, we have these clones due to having to butcher and dispose of two LARGE mother plants, for which there was simply no room. :(

It was sad. I wish they could've gone to a good home with one of these poor souls who accidentally kill their plants, have their plants stolen, or have their plants injured or killed by their pet!

At any rate, here are the clones and one overview of the veg room, for anyone who is keeping up with the JOURNAL. Wow...exciting veg room...(silence) lol...flowering pics are just more interesting, huh?

Well, I like plants in veg too, lots of work LSTing, topping, shaping, and cloning. :D

And...here are the pictures. :D:D

:rastasmoke:

TGF

Edit: I decided to add in 2 pics of the current mother plant (11a aka Kermit). This is a top to another plant that is long gone, but this plant has been topped, LSTd, and topped some more. Turning it hopefully into a Bonsai Mum. :D:D

TheGreenFog

11-20-2006, 10:27 PM

Here is a pic of the veg room after the mother was removed. Hey, Stinky, I wanna call it Kermit, because you suggested the name, but I have a problem calling my "mother" a male name, even if Kermit's voice could possibly be female. LOL. Any other suggestions for the name of our mother, 11a?

Anyway, here are the plants that have vegged from the 2nd run of clones and are now ready for LST. The last two pics are two of them already LSTd.

:rastasmoke:

TGF

*Now I gotta go roll another joint. Be back after that. :D:D*

TheGreenFog

11-21-2006, 02:04 AM

Here are some of the rest of the plants LSTd. Gotta love LST! They don't fit back into the veg room, though!

:greenthumb:

:rastasmoke:

TGF

Bodom Children Of

11-21-2006, 05:02 AM

Bloombox looking nice! Hella calyxes :thumbsup:
Keep up the good work, its gunna pay off big time! :stoned: :smokin:

TheGreenFog

11-21-2006, 04:36 PM

Last pics of the Veg room DAY 112/42/29

The lighting is a bit tricky and not covering as well as we would hope...but we plan to change it up eventually. Hopefully, removing the mother plant will alleviate the diffferences in the height of the individual lights.

Next up, the main flowering room!

:rastasmoke:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-21-2006, 04:38 PM

Bloombox looking nice! Hella calyxes :thumbsup:
Keep up the good work, its gunna pay off big time! :stoned: :smokin:

Yea, Thanks Bodom. The BodomBox is working out just fine! :D

Mayor of Calyx City :pimp:

:rastasmoke:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-22-2006, 03:27 AM

DAY 29 Flowering in the main flowering room.

5 Bagseed plants vegged until they were about 3 feet tall with lots of stretching (lack of light & rootbound early on). Really there are 4 Big 'uns and one smaller one trapped in the middle. Don't expect much off that one...it is stifled by the others' canopy.

Otherwise...they are doing well now. Stretching has slowed down quite a bit. Seem to be alright. We are waiting for the one main cola that was snapped to recover. Ebb & flow system seems to be working like a charm. Nutes seem to be at a good level (no ppm/ec/tds meter). How do they look?

:rastasmoke:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-22-2006, 03:36 AM

More DAY 29 flowering pics from the Main flowering room.

This concludes DAY 114/42/29.

These plants never cease to amaze. They just grow and grow!! :weedpoke:

Everyone BE COOL & stay tuned for more updates to come on TheGreenFogTV!

:rastasmoke: :rasta:

TGF out...

:joint2:

aznson01

11-22-2006, 04:35 AM

im still learning so dont make fun of me, whats a "bagseed"

ive seen it everywhere, ur plants r nasty and i can only hope mine compare

TheGreenFog

11-22-2006, 04:43 AM

im still learning so dont make fun of me, whats a "bagseed"

ive seen it everywhere, ur plants r nasty and i can only hope mine compare

No worries, grasshopper. ;) Bagseed is seed that you got out of a baggie :baggy: you bought 'off the street.' Unknown strain origin. They can be kicka$$ sometimes, though, from what I hear. Also, if you grow it right and keep it seedless, you can grow cannabis 10 times better than the :baggy: you got it from!

I hope by 'nasty,' you mean good. ;) If so, THANKS! Some would say otherwise, but thanks anyway. :thumbsup: I should be having the harvest pics up here soon, at least on the smaller ones.

Go back and read the thread (I know it's a lot of pages, but it's worth it). I've tried to explain almost everything that has been done along the way. There is stuff about LOTS of topics (all with PICS):

LST,
SOG,
topping,
hydroponics,
drip systems,
rockwool,
hydroton clay pebbles,
germination,
cloning,
lighting,
exhaust fans,
sexing,
flowering,

...and much, much more. In no particular order. ;)

I'll be keeping up with your thread. Try to update often. Good luck.

Most of all.................Be cool.

:rastasmoke:

TGF

bud breath420

11-22-2006, 05:30 AM

looking great as always matey.. Cant wait for when they are in full bud its gonna be awesome... btw hope your back feels better bro.. have a good'n

VOYAGER

11-22-2006, 06:40 AM

Whats up Fog, been watching your grow over the past couple months, sorry i havn't responded much but i will now. Your plants are awesome, ecspecially the three header. Seems like youv'e learned a lot since your first post. Keep it up, good hearted growers like yourself is what this site needs to keep around in these days of turbulent times w/ the wave of kids playing around on here. Hopefully Stinky will stay around too, i liked following her thread as well. Been meaning to start a log myself just haven't got around to it. Hopefully this rash of immaturity will fade away and it will go back to the same fun site it always was.

c of green

11-22-2006, 04:40 PM

i don't have much time today but wanted to say welcome back and things are looking good.

updated my thread a little:D (shameless plug....had to do it)

anyway have a good one:joint1:

TheGreenFog

11-23-2006, 01:40 AM

~budbreath420~

Hey, man. Thanks. Yea...they're getting there. Wait til the next update...DAY 121/49/36! I have the pics...now just to find the time to post 'em. :D That's right, 7 days more passing like THAT! ;)

My back is feeling better. Thank you. Damn lack of lumbar support. :(

~VOYAGER~

Hey, welcome. Thanks for the kind words. Yes, I've learned a lot from this site, for sure. I love the 3 header too. I am interested in seeing someone top/FIM a plant about a week to ten days into flowering. It should do the same thing. I think there is something to be lost in yeild, but hey, it looks cool, eh? ;)

Yea, the maturity level is definitely struggling. It's not so much age, but maturity. I hope things smooth out soon. Til then, I'll be spending most of my time in the Cultivation section. It's dangerous and mildly unpleasant to venture into some of those 'northern' sections up there. :o Hopefully, though, the younger generation will look up to some of the more responsible cannabis users/growers and change their ways to help us bring a better name to the plant. :thumbsup:

I hope Stinky stays around too. She's the bomb...and a very intelligent gardener! :D Heed her words, unless she tells you otherwise. lol

Looking forward to your log. What are you growing? Strain? Soil/Hydro/unorthodoxed? Lights? Space?

~c of green~

Thanks man. Glad to be here. I'm going to check yours out too. Look for those updates coming soon! ;)

Ok, everyone...toke up. :dance: :dance:

:joint2: .......... :joint2: .......... :joint2:

:rastasmoke:

TGF

Pass That Shit

11-23-2006, 03:51 AM

GFog :rasta:
PASS THAT SHIT :stoned:

I'm the guy on the left in my AVATAR :cool:

LOL :stoned:

TheGreenFog

11-23-2006, 04:11 AM

I'M TRYING TO PASS THAT SHIT! Reach out with that stubby little smiley arm of yours and grab it! Or are you too stoned...or scared? That's what your eyes say! lol

:rastasmoke:

TGF

VOYAGER

11-24-2006, 08:52 PM

whats up fog, finally got the thread up in the closet section, let me know what you think, i'll see what i can do w/ floro's while i plan my next grow. see ya around.

TheGreenFog

11-28-2006, 10:34 PM

OK, well, I'm back. I posted in your thread, Voyager. Enlighten me. :D

Gonna try to do some updating. I'm slacking...and no one cares! lol. J/k. Some how I got some rep points while I was gone. Cool. :thumbsup:! Thank you for all of you who posted them to me. I appreciate them and would give them back if I knew who it was. I almost have 2 blocks! Cheers! lol

Anyway,

Here come the updates, fast and furious. :D:D

:rastasmoke:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-28-2006, 10:42 PM

~DAY 121/49/36~

Welcome back to TheGreenFogTV!

To start off today's episode, we will shootout some pics of the BloomBox in full flowering action. We're going into the 6th week of flowering in this pic.

I have to keep reminding folks that these plants were never meant to finish flowering. They were puny clones that were force-flowered soley for the purpose of determining sex, but they were let go the whole time and they seem to be turning out ok. Not a waste of space. :D

The BloomBox...

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-28-2006, 10:45 PM

Some closer pics of the buds in the BloomBox.

I think there are 2 of the "Three-headed monster" in there. The last one is definitely it. ;)

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-28-2006, 10:48 PM

Wideshot of the 'Closet of Life'...

haha

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-28-2006, 10:55 PM

Vegetative Room

Here is the veg room.

Mother plant #11a. Bitch is gettin' bushy, eh? Chokin' out the others. :(

Clones vegging...

...and a partridge in a pear tree.

:rastasmoke:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-28-2006, 10:57 PM

New, rooted clones, and some root porn. ;)

C'mon, don't be ashamed. Don't be ashamed to look. It's natural. :D

:rasta:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-28-2006, 11:03 PM

OH CRAP...I ruined the JOURNAL!

Well, here is an EDIT...

The flowers in the BloomBox are not on DAY 36...they are on DAY 49!

The flowers in the Main flowering room, (which will be next up) are on DAY 36. Blah...ok

So now that's fixed.

Onto the Main Flowering room after a quick joint break...be right back!

:rastasmoke:

TGF

Legalizdahurb

11-28-2006, 11:14 PM

Nice looks good.

bud breath420

11-29-2006, 02:54 AM

mmmm... im gonna start building a bodom box next week hopefully.. with the results ive seen it defianitly looks worth it, maybe ill try buildig a bigger box and put some flouro lights in theyre too i have a few spares.. anyway looking good tfg man looking forward to some more budshots!!..

TheGreenFog

11-29-2006, 03:21 AM

Thanks for the comments, guys!

~Budbreath~

Make it. One note first, though. It is a good design, and utterly cheap and simple. Good for a temporary setup or if you don't have to worry about stealth. It is NOT stealth...and it is not permanent. I mean, you can continue to grow in it but it's not ideal to have sitting around. You can make basically the same kind of thing in a cabinet or something that looks better. You will see what I mean in upcoming editions of the JOURNAL. ;)

You have encouraged me to put up more bud pics. :D:D

:rastasmoke:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-29-2006, 04:03 AM

Flowering DAY 36 in the main flowering room.

I have nothing more to say.

:o

:rastasmoke:

TGF

Edit: Well, one of those pics was very nice, but apparently it was too big...meh.

TheGreenFog

11-29-2006, 04:17 AM

More Main room flowering pics DAY 36.

stinkyattic

11-29-2006, 04:28 PM

mmmm.... root porn... plant porn... I'm looking, baby! :D

TheGreenFog

11-29-2006, 05:30 PM

Hey, Stinky! How the hell are ya?

Guess what's coming up in the next update???

Did I hear you say 'harvesting?' I think I did. You are....RIGHT?!

Dates are off a little on the BloomBox. There are conflicting dates in the notes, but either way, it is going to be DAY 54 or DAY 58 on DAY 126 if that makes sense, and we will have some 'splainin', errr...harvesting to do! :D

How's the 'ol attic? ;)

:rastasmoke:

TGF

P.S. I hate the skull to by the way. I wish they would hurry up and change it already. : - (

c of green

11-29-2006, 05:54 PM

that looks goooooood!!very nice can't wait to see it done

faithless

11-29-2006, 06:08 PM

Very pretty.

VOYAGER

11-29-2006, 07:37 PM

them things got my mouth waterin, i'm with ya on wanting to see some of stinky's updated pics, hell over thanksgiving there wasn't a whole lot of new plant shots. Oh well seems like everyone is catching back up to their grows.

TheGreenFog

11-29-2006, 08:42 PM

Hey, thanks for the love, guys. They aint perfect, but they's a growin'! Now I'm looking forward to the harvest pics! Looking forward to all the new trimming, weighing, drying, curing, and SMOKING! :bong: w00t!

:dance: :dance:

I'm gonna wait for a few more posts on here to bump it onto page 21, then start the DAY 126 pics on a fresh page. :thumbsup:

:rastasmoke:

TGF

stinkyattic

11-29-2006, 08:49 PM

So f[r]og, what's in the pipeline? You got a little wish list going for the next batch when you have room for them?
I like to switch it up... I've been staggering the sprouts so I don't get for example 2 harvests in a row of a berry strain...
Ain't perfect -eh- perfection is bad luck IMO. If you're already THERE, then why bother to keep doing something? It's not fun anymore when you're not learning something. And your plants are looking hella tight. :D So's the new avatar. I totally love it.

TheGreenFog

11-29-2006, 09:13 PM

Hey, Stinky. Pipeline...? Hmmm....well, that's a good question!

Let me look into my crystal ball...(spoooky music)

I see...harvesting...and...new cab building...scr..wait...I see...SCRoGing! Yes, more LST...and...Northern...gum...Lights...bubble...I can't quite make it out...

Guess we'll just have to wait and see. ;) hehe.

I envy your perpetuation, if you will. Weekly or bi-weekly harvests sound sweet. Your variety is also mouth watering. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Yea, you're right about the continual learning thing, always a good thing. I love learning new stuff. Kickass. Thanks for the kudos on the plants, and the avatar! That's me chasing my dog/cat after it's pissed on the rug. lol

I tried to give you rep points but it wouldn't let me give you any more. haha.

Be cool.

:rastasmoke:

TGF

stinkyattic

11-29-2006, 09:34 PM

I tried to give you rep points but it wouldn't let me give you any more. haha.

I kn ow, I keep trying to give rep to the same few people who I really respect and the thing keeps giving me that stupid message, damn it. It's the skull, I know it!

TheGreenFog

11-29-2006, 10:11 PM

Beware of the skizull...mua ha ha ha... No but seriously....:(

I hope I'm on that list, Stinky...;) hehe

One more post and I go to page 21 then I can start posting the new PICS! :D I'm gonna go smoke a doobie (well a few puffs at least) then come back and hopefully start posting! I expect to post at least 40-80 pics on DAY 126/54/41!~!~! :D I like to give you guys/gals many angle shots so you can feel like you are in the closet with 'me'.

:rastasmoke:

TGF

orangeman

11-30-2006, 02:39 AM

Can't wait to see them pics! Those buds look lovely!! :stoned:

TheGreenFog

11-30-2006, 04:41 AM

Hey, Orangeman. Thanks for stopping by. :greenthumb:

Well, guys and gals, it's quiet on the boards at this moment, so I'm gonna take a moment to START this next update.

Here we go...

~DAY 126/54/41~

We harvest some homegrown bud today!! :D The plants have been flushed for about a week at this point. Maybe a little less than a week. We are looking at the trichome & hair color to determine when to chop them. We are considering chopping them all at once, but then again, we might chop them in order of ripeness.

Note: At this point, I went back to figure out the actual days past since flipping to 12/12. There seems to be a conflict in some of the notes. According to one note, today is DAY 58 of flower. According to the JOURNAL on here, today is DAY 54. Either way, it is about time to harvest.

NOWâ?¦

We start today again with the BloomBox, because it is the coolest at the time, IMO, and it is the farthest along in flowering. Oh, and did I mention we are HARVESTING today?

Here are some pictures of the BodomBox/BloomBox. :thumbsup:

:rastasmoke:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-30-2006, 04:45 AM

More pics of the BloomBox (DAY 54)

FIVE pictures of the â??Three-headed monsterâ?

For those of you who happened to miss how this came about, the plant was burnt by a CFL early on in the flowering phase and it ended up fixing itself and growing three tops instead of one! Someone coined it the 'FIB' method of cola multiplicationâ?¦do not try this at home. :D

:rasta:

TGF

FIB = F*ck I Burned

TheGreenFog

11-30-2006, 04:49 AM

More pics of the BloomBox (DAY 54)

Ready to chop some? Which do you think we will chop first? Any guesses? ;) lol

TGF

Be back after this joint message...

:baggy:

TheGreenFog

11-30-2006, 05:07 AM

Harvest time. :greenthumb:

Letâ??s make a box. Holes in the sides, strings to hang buds from. Ok. This will be the first week dry box. The plants will be harvested, dried for approximately one week, then cured in glass jars for a couple of weeks before they will be smokeable.

Dry Box - pic #1

Ok, here goes the harvesting. Plant #1a. Decent looking. BUT, it has some kind of white mold on it. We originally thought it was spidermites, but I seriously think it is mold. It is not much and only on part of the top cola. The cola is much more â??denseâ? that anticipated, however.

Picture #4 shows the roots of the plant. They look to be rotted, which is not really surprising, due to the fact that there has literally been zero drainage the whole time. They have been hand watered daily with just enough water so as not to create too much of a pool of water under them and then hand drained when needed. Generally speaking, they have been mistreated with respect to drainage and root maintenance. But they are still producing bud. Iâ??m sure the idea will be tweaked and improved for any future plans and that should be better still.

:weedpoke:

TGF

ridethefire

11-30-2006, 05:09 AM

Congrats, your grow is looking great!

TheGreenFog

11-30-2006, 05:14 AM

Large fan leaves have been removed.

Ooohâ?¦look at the top!

Fully trimmed close. All small leaves have been saved for hash.

Too tall to hang. Donâ??t want to cut. Isnâ??t she cute. Awww. :o

Accidentally snipped off a small bud while manicuring. Hmmâ?¦guess it goes towards scienceâ?¦hold onâ?¦:pipe:â?¦Survey says: :thumbsup: Harsh, but definitely MJ. :stoned:

:rastasmoke:

TGF

TheGreenFog

11-30-2006, 05:28 AM

Thanks, ridethefire! :pimp: Gotta take a break for now. Gonna come back and post the rest soon.

The suspense rises...

How many plants will we take out...? They're all not ready.

What will they look like?

Is there any more mold?

Whaaaat dooo they weigh??? lol

Feel free to leave any and all feedback. :D

And again, thank you to all of you who are giving me anonymous reputation points! Thanks! I'm flattered...

For all of you who are interested, I am currently smoking some very nice herbage...smells DELICIOUS...and very sticky. The joint goes out often and has to be relit. :D But even when I keep it lit, it burns VERY slowly. Maybe these are the 45 minute joints LIP is always talkin' about...? :o

Stay tuned...to TheGreenFOG TV! ;)

:rastasmoke:

TGF

Cornelius

11-30-2006, 07:09 AM

fog i'm glad to see things are rolling right along in fogland. I still have to wait a few weeks till I can taste my girls.

How far along are the mothers of little buggers?

stinkyattic

11-30-2006, 04:21 PM

Sup f[r]oggy?
Dense is GOOOD... but I think that little gal coulda gone a bit longer. She was still shooting out all those white pistils. Still I understand your rot concerns.

chicago_white_guy

11-30-2006, 08:39 PM

sorry, fog, but what did you use for the holes on the sides of the box and what type of string/rope is that. i love the box and will be harvesting my second crop in about a week or so and would LOVE to make a box just like that

TheGreenFog

11-30-2006, 09:18 PM

Hey, homies and homegirls...:pimp:

~Cornelius~

Looking forward to a smoke report.

The mothers of these plants? Well, that's a little complicated. I'll try to explain it briefly.

In the beginning, 13 plants were grown. Clones were taken of each and sexed. These 'test-clones' are the ones in the Rubbermaid box. These are the ones being harvested now. These 'test-clones' were not really even supposed to be flowered, but after they showed sex, we decided to leave them in there to finish.

10 out of the 13 plants were female. 3, obviously were male. The three males were discarded along with any related clones.

Of the remaining 10 mothers:

5 were put into the main flowering room on the right side of the cabinet. I think they were 13, 9, 2, 1, and I cant think of the last one.

2 were vegged (#'s 10 & 5) until they were too big to fit into the veg room, then they were cloned, and the mothers discarded :( But we have clones of them.

1 plant, number 11, was not looking so well, so we topped her and threw away the mother plant. The top has grown into our only current living mother, #11a a.k.a Kermit. This is our Bonsai Mom.

That leaves 2 more...I have no idea what happened to them. I forget. I'm trying to think...

I think #6 was discarded cuz it was weak...not sure. Well, you can find the answers back in the JOURNAL somewhere I'm sure. :)

Therefore, we do not have any of the original mothers left. If we did, they would be 126 days old now. That is the first DAY # in all of these updates. The closest we have is #11a (Kermit) that is a top. I'd have to go back and check how old she is, but I'd have to say she's been around for a while. Getting unweildy too!

Wow, that was brief! haha

I just went back and re-read your question, and if you are talking about the ones in the main flowering room, those are on DAY 41 as of this update.

DAY 126/49/41 is how I label every update. VEG/Bloombox/Mainroom

~Stinky~

Yea, it says here they 'feel' dense...well, more dense than I would have expected from CFL's based on what I've read.

I was worried about that pistil thingy too and I thought it was a bit early, but the harvest was based on a couple things:

- They were getting rootrot...

- They were getting mold on at least one or two of them...

- They were really just experimental plants and not meant to be fully flowered...

- They told us what we wanted to know about rapid forceflowering after rooting clones and the effectiveness of CFLs in flowering...

- They were taking up precious space...

- We want some friggin bud! ;)

~chicago_white_guy~

Are you talking about the dry box?

Well, that is just a cardboard box. Cut big square holes in the north and south ends of them so that air can flow through. Use a utility knife/razor blade or something. Be careful. ;) Then poke small holes in the sides at your desired height (the ones you see are not at the exact height we wanted, but...meh) then feed some normal string (medium thickness) through the holes and out the other side holes. Tie a knot or tape down and you have clotheslines for your buds. Put the box in a dark, cool place with good ventilation and leave for anywhere between 4-7 days. Then cure. Ping!

Hope that helps.

Whew...that was one long a$$ post. Now I dont know if I'm going to have time to finish updating the damn harvest day pics. :( Well, I'll try. Thanks for all your comments and questions.

Now time to go smoke some icky. :jointsmile:

:rastasmoke:

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