Hey does anyone know of a web-site that sells grow lights that are just a little bit cheaper (in price) than most?
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Hey does anyone know of a web-site that sells grow lights that are just a little bit cheaper (in price) than most?
Yeah, I bought some lights (3 of them) from inside sun.
Use the search function on the forums... there's a lot of info on the company..
I was broke as hell back then and I won't buy from them again.
-Cords are not removeable, very difficult to set up your ballast and lights in separate rooms as many experienced growers prefer to do
-the 'econo' reconditioned ballasts... meh... mine looks like it came from a fire and runs so hot that you can't touch it for very long
-actual ballast-to-bulb cord is NOT grounded ( I did a dissection, lol, and was a little worried at that).
But they work. And they are cheap. I don't regret buying from inside sun, it's a good site for us broke-ass mofos. :D
Well yeah I am a broke ass mofo right now so I think I might pick up a light from them lol. I hope I don't regret it, I'll replace it later but right now I'm in a hurry to get started :p. The reflectors look like shit though.
Well I guess they gave you an answer haha. I didn't you were planning on growing too orangeman...
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Originally Posted by orangeman
Good eye!
Batwings are... uh... okay....
I've been planning a grow every since I knew I was going to like Cannabis as much as I do today lol. And Stinky yeah I guess it is ok..it's my only option at this point :p. I still have a lot of money to get together so it might be a while but I know for a fact it's going to happen no later than June. It just sucks though because I want to grow now, I want weed for the summer lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt the Funk
That's fucking awesome Orangeman.
I've personally been waiting for this day!
I'll definitely point you in the right direction. You're a cool character.
Thanks Stinky, I'm gonna need it lol. The only thing though is I really need something that can get rid of odor without having to duct the air to another place in the house. I can't do any of that right now. I saw a thread that I liked in the grow faq's but I don't think I'll be able to find all the stuff to stop the odor. Can some one help? :p
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs...utraliser.html
Hey Orangeman,
Markass just got 2 of the 250w. hps from Insidesun . The only Downfall i see is what Stinky already pointed out w/ the cords being hardwired to ballast . That can be chgd. for cheap $6.00 in pts. at homedepot to chop cord -n- add a male / female cord end near the ballast . BLK - WHT- GRN it's easy .
I saw your other thread -n- you were lookin at a self contained 250w hps. hydrofarm econo maybe ? I have 1 in a 6ft x 2ft x 1.5ft. c-13 cabinet and it does a good job . But for a decent size space its useless w/ bulb way up inside the hood . Also your always stuck w/ the heat of your ballast inside closet / cabinet cause it's up inside the hood . I'll post a cabinet pic. w/ it in it later .
As far as reflector you can always get a cooltube or dif. hood later dwn the road . A cheap cooltube is only like 69.00 now if you dont like the batwing .
If moneys tight it might be easier to research and choose a low odor strain and try to mask the smell verses filter it ? A good fan / carbonfilter combo is expensive .
You shouldn't have many probs. man . You've been doing your homework . You been popin up in dif. grow foroums latley peepin -n- plannin .
You too will soon be free of Doo Doo weed , asshole dealrs and be self sufficiant .
Peace man
Crispi :jointsmile:
Ditto, I'm psyched to hear that Orangeman is gonna farm.
I've posted a couple of specials I see from time to time in electrical supply catalogs. Exactly what are you looking for, O-man?
Shovelhandle
I'm just looking for a light that is going to help me to produce buds that aren't so lanky, spindly and shitty. I know I'm not gonna get the best results out there but I definitely don't want the worst lol. And Crispi I have considered a strain that doesn't smell like marijuana or just doesn't smell as much but I can't order seeds right now. I have a lot of bag-seeds. Actually they are pretty good. One of the seeds made what is in my avatar right now. I was actually surprised because it was just for fun because I had nothing else to do..next thing you know I have a small seedling lol. I had to kill it off though because I knew it was going to get too big and I didn't know I could grow yet, but now I do :p. I just hope that light I plan on getting wont be too much of a prob. I also hope I can find a cheap solution for odor still lol. I hear I can get pretty much off of one or two plants. I'm not a medical user so one or two plants will do fine for my needs...I just hope I don't end up getting two males lol.
Y'know just for future reference does anyone from personal experience have a certain strain that you liked that didn't smell bad at all and was very potent? I want a plant that will get at least 5-6 ft. Right now I don't think size or room is too much of a problem.
Big bud surprisingly alot fo bud, compact plant, doesnt smell yet as of now has 30days left.
Yeah ive been trying to get rid of my batwind reflector for a while but a 150 vented hood is too much and anthing else would be a waste to me. i got my 400wtter from ebay, it looks wierd with a bigblack heatsink gets mad hott, but its got thick cords wich makes me think everything is in order, working a year now, no problems it was like 120 with bulb and reflector, and yes it was hardwired arg.
I'll check out Big Bud for one of my grows. But I don't think I'll be ordering from eBay lol...I just wish I could get this light though :(. I took the article out of Soft Secrets.
http://abok.net/blackjack/Spectrum%20Reflex.jpg
I looked at hempdepot and suppossedly cinderella 99 doesn't produce much of a smell and is a pretty good strain, infact I think I might Cinderella 99xNorthern Lights.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
yeah i hear good things on the c99, friends order for me on ebay:thumbsup:
Hey, O.
Glad to see you trying to grow. Everyone should be able to have his/her own small personal setup. Wouldn't that just make the world a better place? :hippy:
Hope you can get what you need for the right price. So where you gonna be setting up shop, if ya don't mind my askin'? :jointsmile:
The Fog :rastasmoke:
IMO the best place in a house for growin. The basement. What makes it good is it's a room down there so everything will be enclosed and I don't have to build a room. And yeah, everyone that smokes should have their own crop. Then we'd have even more weed to go around :).Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreenFog
I'm going to sell my PSP (lol) to get $150 and try to get another $100. If I do I might just get a better light. I know some sites that have some good HPS lights for like $250. I don't have the money right now to buy a light that of the right spectrum for vegging and all that other bs. I can only afford one so I'm trying to get an HPS. I want a 400w and probably can get one but I'm afraid those will get too hot and I don't have any way to ventilate all that hot air right now.
Well good news. I don't have to pay for light. Money will be given to me lol. I still have to buy other stuff though like for my plants needs. I still need a fan and some pots and some good soil and possibly some nutes, a ph tester and all that other stuff. I need cash :p.
One more question. Do you guys think it's pretty safe to have this light mailed directly to my house or what? How heavy should the light be? And if it's sorta heavy does the people that deal with my package open it up to see what it is?
BUMP, I really need an answer to this question. I have never ordered anything like this before and I'm trying to get all of this done ASAP.
I'd have your seeds ordered to a friends house, may be better to have the lights mailed somewhere else if possible too. I really don't know though.
i got my lights sent to my house, so just get it sent to your house.
Nvm this isn't moving as fast as I want it to. I swear I can't wait until I get older and have my own place and own money, if it isn't some one else's top priority it never seems to get done. So what ever I'm gonna have to try and use my own money now and since I can't afford a lot I'm just gonna buy some mylar and some CFL's. How many watts do you guys think I need of CFL's and how much will the mylar help my yield?
How many watts needed depends on a lot of different variables. Also remember, you will need different Kelvin CFLs for flowering if you plan to go CFL for the whole life of the plant. Mylar will help out tremendously with your yield and overall plant health. I highly recommend using it, especially with CFLs. With the low Lumens the CFLs provide you with you will need to make the most use out of your enclosure as possible. Keep it as confined as possible without causing fire hazards or otherwise having a negative affect to the plants health.
We need to know this information to help ya better:
∙ Dimensions of the grow space (LxWxH).
∙ How many plants you plan on growing.
∙ Will you be flowering with the CFLs?
Orangeman, Here's a site where I've gotten some lights. They have a huge selection to fit every need and budget.
Light Bulbs, Rope Lights, Halogen & Fluorescent Light Bulbs
I got two 105 watt full spectrum fluorescents to go with the 150 watt hps. I have the two large fluorescents hanging on opposite sides of the 150. Works well and keeps heat down. They aren't cheap. But they have a wide selection of other lights to fit your needs.
As far as odor goes, we're growing Cal Bud right now, into our ninth week. The smell is considerably reduced compared to the bag weed we grew for our first attempt, which came out way better than the original stuff the seeds came from. People sometimes drop by and they smell something but it isn't weed. No alarms go off. We grow in our closet and keep the door open to avoid heat build-up. If we know people are dropping by, we shut the bedroom door and no one's the wiser.
Best thing to do is to start collecting all your essentials now, nutes, tools, etc, so when you get ready to jump in you're fully prepared.
After our first grow, I decided that I wasn't going to buy herb again. Just grow. It's not that difficult. Everyone has their idea as to how to do it. The best way is what works for you. Also, if you're growing for your own bones, you need to grow at least three plants to insure that you get one female. Good luck. :smokin:
Well yeah I do plan on using the CFL's to flower. And if I have to buy like 6 bulbs I'm gonna probably use them all at the same time. I want to get 3 cool whites and 3 warm whites. If I can get more then I will but I wasn't really prepared for all the CFL's I thought I was going to be able to get one big 250w HPS but the money is not like it should be (sigH). I plan on growing at least 3 plants and hopefully I get lucky and they all end up females lol. I don't know the dimensions..but it's big enough :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRB.4.Life
What if I get these?
65 Watt Compact Fluorescents
Orangeman, my two previous grows before this one have been done with CFL's...I've had a few other problems but I would say that if there's any way that you could get around $100 or so...(what I paid for my 250HPS) it would make you much more happy in the end. CFL's I think are wonderful for veg, but once it comes to flowering they do okay, but it takes tons of them and a lot of know-how to get nice bud production with them. I've just powered on my HPS yesterday, and from what I can tell my plants are digging the light and I think it's going to do wonders when I start to flower them.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
eBay: 250 HPS Econo Grow Light w/ Remote Ballast (item 170086835950 end time Mar-11-07 15:39:59 PDT)
This is the light that I bought. I got one for myself and it works just fine. For a budget light, this is great. I didn't have great amounts of cash, but I did know that if I wanted to get some nice buds I was going to have to fork over a bit more. No chance in hell I was going to pay more than $200 for a grow light...so a friend of mine recommended these lights...$105.:thumbsup:
Those 65Watt CFLs would do great! At 3400Lumens EACH you would be looking at 20400Lumens total. That's more than enough for a small cabinet grow. 3 of each kelvin would create a well balanced light diet for your plant/s.
You're on the right track.
The only thing I would be concerned about would be wattage. You'd be working with about 390Watts. Your electric bill will be a little bit more expensive. But I'm assuming you're not concerned.
Also remember, with CFLs you need to keep the light as confined as possible. So if your grow enclosure is bigger than 4FT Tall x 4FT Wide x 3FT Deep, make it smaller to get it to around those dimensions or even smaller if possible. The mylar will be an absolute MUST if you cannot make the enclosure equal or smaller than that.
How do you plan on mounting your lights?
Wow. Not bad. Very good deal there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Markass
The only thing bad about HPS is that you really can't use them throughout the whole cycle of the plants life. Meaning they're only benefitial to flowering.
So you end up having to add the HPS in when you switch to 12/12.
Personally I prefer not doing this.
On the other hand, if you can afford the electric bill, you can simply just run the CFLs with the HPS! But to avoid unneeded costs simply buy 6 of the cool CFLs (6500K) and forget about the warm CFLs. Which would be just flat out phenominal in regaurds to best bang for your buck!
You could run that setup through the whole plants life without having to switch out any lights or anything. Only issue there is you're looking at 390watts + the 250watts = 640watts and a whole lot of heat.
Decisions decisions..lol
I plan on getting one of those clamp light things and screw the bulbs into them and just get something that will make it easy for me to hang the lights over the plants. So are those the only lights I should get or should I try and get more?
It depends on what you can afford.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
If you can afford it grab a cheap 250watt HPS and go about what was mentioned above.
Or if you want to keep the heat and costs down grab some more CFLs.
Really it depends on your budget at this point.
Ok I might just get some more CFL's. The way I see it now the plants are gonna be like closed in by 4 walls. All covered with mylar. I'm gonna try and keep everything as close as possible so I can get the most out of the mylar and lights..
Orange I picked these up at walmart for 1.00. You will have to mount them to a board or something but that shouldnt be too hard. I am setting up a board that is 5 inches wide about 36 inch long and am using 4 of these to hold 16 lights. For a dollar you cant beat it, they are in the bulb/ceiling fan section. All they are is the light sockets for a ceiling fan but you can mount them using the holes on the back. I will probably put mine together tonight so ill post some pics of it.
I don't think I would know how to get that to work. If it isn't something you just plug in and turn on I'm lost lol. I'm no electrician.
You're going to spend just as much money on CFL's and other stuff when you could've bought the HPS that I'm using right now. I was stubborn and wanted to go the cheapest way when I first started. If I would've listened to everyone, I could've had nice buds on the first try. Instead, I spent a hundred dollars or so on CFL's that I ended up using around the house rather than in my closet. Trust me, just get a couple CFL's for veg and buy a HPS man.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
The package is 25 pounds, and is delivered by DHL. And it's perfectly safe to have it delivered to your house...so long as your parents aren't nosey...Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman