People who do acid and LSD, saying shit like "there is more to reality than we know of" and that there are "hidden doors" and shit like that. How fucked up can these drugs be to make people believe these things?
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People who do acid and LSD, saying shit like "there is more to reality than we know of" and that there are "hidden doors" and shit like that. How fucked up can these drugs be to make people believe these things?
i think these sort of things and i only smoke weed just now :) :)
They do have things that they can teach us. LSD is a TOOL. just like mushrooms.
Its not necissarily the drug teaching us but it is a catalyst to show us things we know inside ourselves but cant necissarily reach in a sober state.
Acid and lsd huh go to www.erowid.com and Learn about lsd (aka acid) before making UNINFORMED assumptions about something you know NOTHING aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by IntrepidS
What I said was true, it's not false. There are people who do them and think crazy shit like that. As for them being the same drug, when I asked someone he said they were different and I think Acid is on blotter sheets and LSD is sort of sugar cubes...I wouldn't know though.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanfrancyan
I know, and I think even weed is that kind of tool to a certain extent.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanfrancyan
IntrepidS come on man.. youre not so arrogant that you think you know if there are or not.. some of the leading physicists believe in other dimensions than our own, and could probably convince you if given the opportunity.. so how can you say its bullshit?
I remember I read an article on LSD and Shrooms and it told how some believe that lsd and shrooms sort of let us use "another part of our brain" that is impossible to in a sober state. I sorta believe this but so far its just seeing things and not applying any pyschic abilities.
Those are just different methods of use both is the chemical LSD-25. I knew exactly what you said. Its just that an LSD trip is really hard to describe those are some of the ways that they express what they felt, "There is more to reality that we know of" and " "Hidden doors" basically metaphors for saying It made them look at reality differently. The chemical changes the way your body processes the information that it recieves so you trip. It is a useful tool.
All drugs have their place:
Marijuana- realxing, medical applications, meditation
LSD- self exploration, realizing the different ways we precieve reality
Psilocybin Mushrooms- self exploration, realizing the different ways we precieve reality, Learning about our place in the world
Ecstasy- Therapy, psycology
I say also with the exception of METH, HEROIN, COCAINE. I have studyed these drugs and IMO dont feel the small number of pluses in the ocean of negatives is worth the use of these drugs.
I did not write my first post to insult you but like i said you dont have a clue what your talking about.
yeah, acid (d-lysergic acid diethylamide) is just another name for lsd(d-lysergic acid diethylamide), kinda like weed is another name for cannabis.
i can relate when people describe "reality as we know it" to have more to it than we actually know. i also [somewhat] think about how people who are "mad" (as in crazy) aren't really insane, how they just have parts of their brains turn on and stuck that aren't on for normal people, so they see beyond our reality. i've never taken lsd, but even mdma coupled with quite a bit of weed bruised up my ego and shattered my normal perception. certain drugs just allow you to look beyond and it really does change you. it's definately something to be experienced, as describing it can be difficult.
i totally beleive that there's "more to reality than we know"
i'm the same way when it comes to drugs. i'll stick with weed, sativa, shrooms, and mdma. possibly even mescaline (if i could ever get my hands on some) and nitrus (though brain lesions aren't my cup of tea really). not garbage like heroin, coke, huff, meth. and lsd.. well i'll try to stay away from it as there are [better] (read: phsysiologically safer heh) alternatives in a manner of speaking.
LSD is a dangerous drug....it brainwashes you. Ever hear of the acid=heaven on earth theory? You know who 'started' it? You know how many followers it has even to this day?
No, LSD won't bring heaven to earth. It's good for cosmo/reality/etc exploration...and that's cool...but you have to stay in touch with your own reality. If you're asking "is this computer actually here?" you need to stop eating acid.
Be careful....seriously. It's easy to let your own reality slip away from you. I've been there. I have plenty of friends who have been there. It's not fun....and once you stop eating acid and figure this out, you feel a lot better.
It's 'good' to an EXTENT.
me and my friends once had a 3 hour, stoned conversation about whether the room and everything in it actually existed, and how we could prove it. lol. that damn book Problems Of Philosophy.. I knew I shouldnt have read it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by UserName AlphaNiner
Overusing psychadelic drugs is terrible. YOu lose your sense of reality and illusion (as stated above) and have a high chance of developing some form of schizophrenia. Look at Syd Barrett.
Many cultures use drugs as a way to spiritually enter other dimensions and stuff like that. Ppl have been doing this throughout history. Many religious groups insist that certain drugs do indeed allow us to open up other dimensions.
Maybe having so many regular ppl (ppl who do drugs recreationally, not for religious purposes) say that drugs open up new doorways is confirmation that drugs do have the ability to do this. I mean, who's to say that these other dimensions don't exist?
But it depends on who's saying this and what context it's in. If they're convinced that they're in la la land and see green elves everywhere, then that's probably not the same thing as taking peyote with a religious group and being able to open up spiritual avenues.
It's alright to explore the posibilities of other dimensions, spirituality, etc...but you can't lose yourself in them. I'm talking about people who took too much acid, and quit their jobs to follow timothy leary....or drive in a bus around America to spike punch with acid and fuck up so many people....or people who were convinced that this substance could be used as a mind controlling chemical, so they dosed eachother and unsuspecting civilians with it to test it.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowfox
It's alright to explore the cosmos of acid a couple of times....but this is the most insane drug there is. Be careful with it. Respect it.
it all makes sense to me man, its like basically a giant problem, just that our brains aren't advanced enough to figure them out yet [i.e., the meaning of life] well this probaly helps us opening parts of the mind we coudn't imagine doing on our own. I dont believe in anything as a drug, i take it more as something that will help me open up my mind, let me see more than i can see not on my own. Yes its true some people do believe in the 5th dimension the speed of time or whatever it is
yes it happens it happened to me with speed and lasted weeks i thought serious shit was happening all religious stuff and that.I thought my ex was god for real.Ithought all indians were like the devil and when i was taken to hospital i was put in intensive care i was nearly dead at this stage 8 days not 1 wink of sleep.I was seeing grey clouds around some of the people and i was sure they were dying so i told them man i was a froot loop will never take that again ever ever fucked me bad i was on antipsychotics for a whole year and they suck.
speed? speed is slightly different to acid.. LOL
Imo these ppl already had something wrong with them to begin with. These ppl were already hanging off the ledge of sanity. I guess acid was the catalyst that made them finally let go of that ledge. I really don't believe that normal, sane ppl with common sense can be normal one day, then take acid and believe that they're god and that they're going to the mothership the next.Quote:
Originally Posted by UserName AlphaNiner
I dont know if its fair to think of taking certain drugs to get to a "higher level" of existence or perception. True you can see and feel incredible things and have a mind fuck but once youre body burns through the high its just like youre left with a somewhat hollow memeory that you cant feel so you just end up living for the high and questing for that feeling. I have very mixed feelings about psychotropics(sp?) but i think its just another way of looking at the apple..
I had a point to all that but i seemed to have lost it/ramble off
I totaly agree with you dude, and iv tried all of those drugs and that pretty much hits the nail on the head. But yea LSD (or acid) lets you discover things that u never noticed in life. Lets you get in touch with yourself and see the full power of your brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanfrancyan
I think he was trying to say that the belief that certain drugs can connect us to what people believe are material entities (aliens, guardians etc) is erroneous. I think the other dimensions you mentioned are to do with a possible parrallel universe consisting of anti-matter, which hasn't been proven. I think he's just as entitled to say it's bullshit, as you are to say the idea of God is bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
lol good pointQuote:
Originally Posted by mr chinnery
ok ok story time...
my friend's got this uncle and when he was 9 he said that aliens came to his house and told him that they were going to take him to their planet and that they would be back for him. he moved out of the house... dropped some acid... and is now 30 years old and moved back into that house where he grew up and is waiting for the aliens to take him away. he really beleives that they're going to come for him
lol awesome.. id love to smoke with someone like that :p
you use 80% of your brain when on acid...you use something like 10% when sober..
Purge I dont think that is true. If you could provide a credible source where you got that info I would appreciate it. I hope I am wrong because I would really like to take a drug that makes you use more of your brain. I smoke herb and salvia occasionaly. That is a crazy drug man
ghostoker he was talking about he stayed up real long on speed and when you stay up for like 72 hours straight on speed your brain admits a drug into you that is equal in power to acid, i felt i had to tell you this because i just recently did this, it is infact insane i made it to 6 days and snaped out because i thought all my freinds were going to kill me except for this one dude, it was like a shitty movie with seeing and hearing alot of stuff that wasn't there.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
on hallucigens i really connect with a different reality, especially on salvia extract. anyone who has done salvia and has reached the salvia realm, knows exactly what i'm talking about. its liek a different reality.