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the 1 night my partner was to take carer of feeding our plants they went ahead and dumped strait PH up into all our plants even though the water and food was already mixed and waiting in the SAME JUG WE ALWAYS USE!!!! so now of course they are like FUCKED UP....do i flush these babies as fast as i can???? do i use more ph down??? wow im so lost.....anyone elses have 1/2 and idea??? itll be 1/2 more of an idea than i have... PLEASE and THANK YOU
I would definitly flush that suka well. And then check the Ph runoff and see where your at.
kd
dude its actually 22 not just the 1....so should i not worry about overwatering them now?? obviously not 1/2 my problem...should i be ph up all the water i add?? AND I WAS WRONG IT WAS PH DOWN NOT PH UP ADDED!!!
Wow, dude...this thread made me stop browsing and reading and actually log on...that's not good.
Well, first of all, I'm sure you know that your partner is a complete IDIOT...and I don't call people that very often (not on forums, at least).
Anyway, after that stupid acid trip, those plants are going to be pretty sad.
Ok, how long after he did he let them sit in it until you found out or whatever? Are they in soil? I sure hope not...
Either way, if you want to save them, flush the hell out of them. Flush flush and more flush. You can pH UP the water you are flushing with to try to balance out the pH. Sucks that you'd have to do 22 plants, but...well, make his dumbass do it. ;)
Next time...make your mix (nutes) and then leave them with him premixed with no access to any of the other chemicals. Damn, man...sorry.
Good luck. Take pics and please report back with what happened.
Go FLUSH!
The Fog :rastasmoke:
it was about 7 hrs since the time all the shit water was added till i got home.... and of course now my light goes off, but i kept it going till i flushed them completely with clean water... FUCK I am so mad at myself it is not even funny... they are SO waterlogged now and the PH is still about 5 something....still comming up quite red in my PH tester when i want it almost yellow... Fuck sorry for all the F Bombs but WOW.... I thought i had picked a smart girl but i am so second guessing her even... From day 1 I stressed ow important it was to test every drop added to them but i guess NEVER LET ANYONE DO YOUR WORK.... NO ONE CAN DO ANYTHING AS GOOD AS YOURSELF.... the reason why Ieven had her water for me was that i get off with only 2 hrs till my light goes out and i figured we should water when the light goes on not just before it goes out.... FUCK I should have watered them myself 1 minute before the light when out I would have SAVED MY PRINCESS'..
Now only time will ell I guess...........
ahhh that blows man.. good luck I hope you can save your babies
another thing you can do it fill a tub with water right up to the pots edge and let them sit there for an hour, sorry man thats really sucks.
hey kent...
it will be ok.. You will get some burnig on your leaves.. but you will recover... Don't get to upset at your friend.. it is never worth getting upset ... the grow is suppose to bring you happyness.. make sure it does..
Please post pictures....
I water with a solution that has a pH of at least 8.0... When I have grown in MG soil, which has a pH of 5.0 -5.5 I always water with 8.0 (for teh first 4 weeks) and the plants turn out OK..
Your biggest problem will not bethe LOW pH but rather the massive fluxuation.. plants don't like the sudden shift...
please keep us posted and LOVE thy FRIEND...
:)
fuck i cant even sleep now im so pissed.... light of course is off too...this is TORTURE...what'd be worse...letting them sit in shit water?? or turning the light on and getting back to flushing??? i am in day 28 bud now.... but is letting them sit in this state for 12 hours worse than getting their "soil" back to 6.5???
Heres some pics even tho I am SO embarrassed even.... if you cant tell what are the before and after "may god save you, I and my partner" ha ha
i was expecting worse, they will be fine after you get that PH in check.
"LOVE thy FRIEND"
man i should have thought about that part 2 hours ago.... lets just say ill be sleeping in my shed for the next week or two... funny how these things go eh???
those pics are still with them looking alright....... there was a full 4 litre jug of Phdown added to them no mix or nothing..
plants can be replaced but a good friend cant.....
good luck bro, just remember, like Known said, shes gonna be there after these plants are gone,....sooo.
Best of luck. I did something simial once, turned around OK tho i the end.
you are so right plants can be replaced.......BUT when 2 people are supposed to be on the same level and they BOTH figure they can rely on 1 another... Now I do not know if i can.... We had watered them together quite a few times, and they seen how maybe over too protective you could say I was... i mean i check my PH the day i mix it and then the second i am about to dump into my watering bottle.... and I "thought" that they were as persistent as I was since they too checked it everytime....but the 1 time I wasnt there this happens it's, so wierd like these bottles were so not in a spot that were like right there to use.... They were bright orange bottles and then they just dumped them in not CARING or THINKING even....
"And that is this one mans opinioN"
i feel you dude, I don't let my roomie even touch the nutes cuz I know he wouldn't show the care and diligence. Now, i let him watch them grow. But shit what can a fella do when he can't do it himself. I am familiar with ph down, and that is some strong shit. I've had hella huge fight, almost blows over this shit with my roomie/best friend, its so LAME, we lived in the house together, but woudn't talk or anything, its really not worth it. I feel you on the not THINKING part. Maybe, next time, if there is one, write out some instructions. Thats what I am gonna do if i ever go on vac or out of town.
Best of luck with those plants dude. after the good flush, tomorrow they should look a LOT better than they do now.
Is your friend...perhaps...smoking rocks? :what: Hehe...just kidding. Well, I know that a few drops of that sh*t will bring the pH way down on just a few gallons, so a 4 litre jug?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by kent tha killer
Anyway, like everyone's saying, it's not worth losing the friendship...it's more of a learning experience.
Leave instructions and have them CALL your cell when they are mixing the nutes so you can walk them thru it...for next time. :p
If it were me...I'd turn off the lights...and flush them by candlelight...but that's just me.
Good luck, bro.
The Fog :rastasmoke:
Edit: I gave you some rep to help you feel better. :D
First I have a fascinating feeling that your friend will never make this same mistake again. So you may want to ease up a little ;)
Second...I could be completely wrong but isn't it better that they were a few hours in soil rather than hydro with a crappy ph? Like a slower absorption rate or something? I had some hydro plants that went overnight with a really low ph (like 3.8 or something) and they came back fine with some good nursing care. Good luck!
you are right i should have left instructions......"IF" we had not gone over 1000 times, and "IF" they were even supposed to mix the water.... All they had to do was dump the water from a 20 ltr jug to the 4 litre botlle we use, then water... no mixing, not even any thinking really i mean it should have been too easy....and just my luck im on night shift all week and when im home the light is off.... So I take it "not" to change the lighting obviously to get in there b4 work?? should i be flushing them constantly or will they get overwatered???
sorry cant and anything new but flush flush flush flush flush shit that fucking sucks :(
think of it this way, if your child drank some poison right before bedtime would you wait till the morning to go to the hospital or say forget bedtime tonight and go straight to the hospital.. your plants got poisoned so the most important thing is removing the poison, lights out can be put off for you to do this, it is better for your plants to have the light schedule off for a few hours while you flush than it would be for the plants to sit in the "poison" for 12hrs. also overwatering is frequency not quantity so don't worry about overwatering just make sure you flush the shit outta them with lots of clean "nonchlorinated" water. my brothers partner once used about 50x to strong nutes and my brother found out 24hrs later. he flushed the plants with lots of r/o water and clearex and the plants were fine, as garden knowm said just some burnt leaves. good luck
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I'm pretty sure your gals will be ok after a losing a few leaves to burns.
On the friendship note, I would be very careful of pissing someone off who knows you have 22 plants at home...
heres some pics for you....good looking bud eh???? can me and my partner come and water ur rooms?? well get ur PH lower than ull ever see...cmon now no one need our help?? ha ha
I look for humor in times like these, and at least i see you are still referring to the other as your partner still.
think theres any chance??
whats the PH now?
i cant get it back over 5 now i have flushed flushed and flushed again...is there a point where too much water is gonna kill them too??
hmmm eventually they will die from too much water, do they look worse?
I think only human blood can cure them at this point. I think I know whos blood you should use. j/k but serious distaster, I feel for u.
I've flushed plants for about 20 minutes with a shower handle during the last weeks before harvest, no prob.
I bet you could flush them quite easily for an hour, they get even worse than that thrown at them in nature, it becomes a problem when it happens too often.
I'm sure you could rinse the soil till its neutral?
5 PH isn't any where lethal as far as I know, just not very healthy for them. The damage your plants took in the pics will probably only slow their growth a week, 10 days, I would think, and effect some yield. But I've never had it happen to me, so its only speculation.
also try scratching some dolimite lime into the soil before watering and this will help raise the ph. just make sure you get dolimite lime and not hydrated lime.
Sorry for the hijack but could you elaborate on that Justaseed? I have some hydrated lime that I mixed with my soil that I suspect caused me some problems. Is it just too strong or...??
Hope your plants get better soon Kent!
well i see there is no hope in this rooms future...heres the pics from today when i got off work.... they are looking 100% WORSE... heres the pics........
think this shit is even salvagable for oil?? since there was fert in the mix she also used will it burn black as night???think i should just toss this stuff or what?? thanks all in theese dark dark times
sorry mate looks like the end of the road with that one:( that shit makes me want to cry shit i really thought you could save her,and for the person who done this :S4: :S4: :S4: :S4: :S4: :S4: :chainsaw:
so does anyone think its salavagable for oil??
i mean the shake is hooped but id hate to see all of the nice crystal get wasted..... but then again messed ph, overwatering, and being only on day 30 of bud would only give me a headache or some shit ?? or would it do the job??
I have learnt 2 lessons....1 no one touches the water besides ME.... and 2 my partner is more of a moron than thought.... they were to water all of them but i see 3 are all good, which tells me they didnt even do the job they were set out to do at all
ill keep updated pics of the remaining 3 posted in my other thread : "Heres My New Room With a Couple Questions"
that sucks big time, id give them another few day then just chop them down and see what you get, maybe just grind it all up and make some hash with it all.
what about oil?? lol i so love my oil... any differences there?
damn kent, man that bites the big one dude..i feel for ya bro, all your time, care, and hard work down the friggin tubes in a matter of a few seconds. thats alright man go at it again, cosider it a learning experience and grow from it (no pun intended...LOL).
if i were you i would give it a week or so they are not gonna come all the way back overnight it will take time and care have a little patience im a new grower with an idiot partner also from not checking the ph to someone telling him foliar feeding with beer helps your plants during flowering
good luck