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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
[align=left]LONDON - Israel has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran's uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons, Britain's Sunday Times newspaper said yesterday.[/align]
Citing what it said were several Israeli military sources, the paper said two Israeli air force squadrons had been training to blow up an enrichment plant in Natanz using low-yield nuclear "bunker busters".
Two other sites, a heavy water plant at Arak and a uranium conversion plant at Isfahan, would be targeted with conventional bombs, the Sunday Times said.
The UN Security Council voted unanimously last month to slap sanctions on Iran to try to stop uranium enrichment that Western powers fear could lead to making bombs.
Tehran insists its plans are peaceful and says it will continue enrichment.
Israel has refused to rule out pre-emptive military action against Iran along the lines of its 1981 air strike against an atomic reactor in Iraq, although many analysts believe Iran's nuclear facilities are too much for Israel to take on alone.
An Israeli government spokeswoman, Miri Eisin, declined comment on the Sunday Times report.
Israel does not discuss its assumed atomic arsenal, under an "ambiguity strategy" billed as warding off regional foes while avoiding arms races.
"We don't comment on stories like this in the Sunday Times," Eisin said.
In Tehran, Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini told a news conference that the newspaper report "will make clear to the world public opinion that the Zionist regime (Israel) is the main menace to global peace and the region".
He said "any measure against Iran will not be left without a response and the invader will regret its act immediately".
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for Israel to be "wiped off the map" and Israel has said it will not allow Iran to acquire a bomb.
The Sunday Times quoted sources as saying a nuclear strike would only be used if a conventional attack was ruled out and if the United States declined to intervene.
Disclosure of the plans could be intended to put pressure on Tehran to halt enrichment, the paper added.
It said the Israeli plan envisaged conventional laser-guided bombs opening "tunnels" into the targets.
Nuclear warheads would then be used fired into the plant at Natanz, exploding deep underground to reduce radioactive fallout.
Israeli pilots have flown to Gibraltar in recent weeks to train for the 3 200 km round-trip to the Iranian targets, the Sunday Times said, and three possible routes to Iran have been mapped out including one over Turkey.
An Israeli defence source, who did not want to be identified, wrote off the Sunday Times report as "psychological warfare".
"If we have such capabilities, I find it extremely unlikely that we would use them in a 'tactical strike'," the source said.
"Israel's nuclear option, if it exists, is exclusively part of a second-strike doctrine," the source said, referring to a deterrent strategy whereby a country ensures it can retaliate massively for a catastrophic attack on its territory.
Washington has said military force remains an option while insisting that its priority is to reach a diplomatic solution. Nampa-Reuters
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
God if you are out there and listening....please stop them. This will start the war of all wars....:(
[align=left]??Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.?[/align]
[align=left]?? I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.?[/align]
[align=left]He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.?[/align]
[align=left]Albert Einstein[/align]
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
Yeah, saw that on tv today. Some seriously scary shit.
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
Truly disturbing, yet Iran's President did say that they would wipe Israel off the map. Iran is a dictatorship by definition, and a harsh one. During the Holocaust Denial meetings, Iran's President said to come to Iran to experience true freedom...and I pretty much laughed at that statement. There is no "freedom" in Iran. There leaders are fucking crazy theocratic bastards like the neo-cons in America. The only difference is the name of the religion. One kills in the name of Allah, the other one kills in the name of Jesus.
It's bullshit governments like Iran that instigate this shit, but both sides must realize that there is no winner in a nuclear exchange. Iran has vowed to retaliate if they are attacked and make no mistake...they will.
Pray to God, Allah, Buddha, or whomever you hold to be a higher power in the Universe that this shit does not take place.
On the other end, I am also not a sympathizer to the Israelis either as I believe they are occupying land that rightfully belongs to the Arabs. I am sick and tired of hearing this bullshit on the Christian TV networks and Fox News that the US must support Israel. They should just get the fuck out and come to the US or another country and then the Middle East problem will solved. It's Arab land!
However, I am a man for integrating cultures and living side by side with different people and both are acting like little children. Personally, I would find it cool for people of the 3 Abrahamic religions living side by side and there are many Jews who feel this way and both Jews and Arabs hate the bullshit fighting that is going on.
I don't know why the British allowed Zionist Jews to migrate to Palestine during the 19th and early 20th centuries. Did they ever think..."hmm..maybe the Arabs wouldn't like it. Ehh fuck em! It will satisfy the Jews if we let them go back to their old land"
But rest assured, if Israel strikes, Iran WILL retaliate and the US WILL BE BROUGHT IN TO HELP! I wonder if thats why Bush is sending more troops to Iraq so they will have some reinforcements because Iran will definitely slaughter the Americans in Iraq. The US will be overwhelmed by both Iranian, Syrian, and Iraqi militia troops....which they will not be able to defeat at the current level.
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
Howdy HinduKush,
Just calm down..take a couple of deep breaths..relax..yer just having a Cindy Sheehan moment..hopefully-it'll pass and won't become permanent..lol. :D
Just because we have another carrie group moving to the Gulf,doesn't mean that we're on the verge of opening a can of whup-ass..just because 70% of the ied's,are being provoded by Iran and we got some of their military advisors there,red-handed,doesn't mean that we will use that as a motive for slaughtering the enemy. However,Israel is our ally and the only democracy in the region,except for Iraq's fledgeling democracy,so we will ensure Israel's survival..over that of their brutal neighbors.
I realize,that you'd rather git on yer knee's and pray for dhimmitude..and what the heck,what's another tax(jizra),on top of all of the taxes the dim's will slap on us soon ?
I don't think that you'll like being schooled in a madrassa or mosque,tho-Islam is a tedious and laborious religion to learn,kinda like Catholics and their Catechism schools or studying for the Bar Mitzvah..it's a real grind !
Yer fear of having yer throat slit or being be-headed,is justified and I can understand why you fear the muslim-jihadists and would figure that maybe if ya butter em up with a heavy dose of flattery,along with a sincere apology for being so rude as to anger them..that they might be satisfied and put aside their plans for you..being the kafir(infidel),that You and I are,in their eyes.
Have a good one ... :jointsmile:
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
f.y.i. hindu kush, the jews inhabited present-day israel for over four thousand years, up until they were expelled by the romans after a failed revolt in 132 a.d. the arab population filled the gap after that and was the somewhat exclusive inhabitants until the jewish movement to return to their homeland. the partition the u.n. passed in 1948 would have had the jewish and arab population coexisting, each with an equal share of land and their own sovereignty. however, the day the british troops left, 5 surrounding arab nations (the invaders also include the palestinians) invaded the israeli side and got their asses kicked by the jews. on top of that, several other times israel has been attacked by its muslim neighbors, and has not once taken over arab land unless first provoked. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE THEY DONE THAT IS WRONG?!?
sorry for the history schpeel, but seriously, how do you figure the arabs are the "rightful" owners of the land??
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
Leak of Israel??s Plan to Nuke Iran Smell Like BS
January 06, 2007
By John Bambenek
Drudge Report is splashing the news that the Sunday Times of London plans on reporting that Israel is planning a nuclear strike against Iran to head off Iran??s nuclear ambitions. According to Drudge:
Israel has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran??s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons, the SUNDAY TIMES of London is planning to report, British media sources tell DRUDGE?
At first glance, the entire story smells of a fabrication. The obvious reason being that if Israel had secret plans to nuke Iran, they likely wouldn??t have been leaked. If they did get leaked, the police better start dredging the Sea of Galilee for the bodies of those involved. More importantly this leak gives huge benefits to Iran.
Israel is not stupid. A tactical nuclear weapon would likely do very little for a protected underground bunker. It is possible that either Drudge or the London Times doesn??t know precisely what a tactical nuclear weapon is. However, the fact remains in order to really do damage to the facility an ICBM (a strategic nuclear weapons) would need to be used. The momentum of a missile coming down from low earth orbit would be necessary to burrow deep enough to do the damage desired. There is indication that even then, the strike might not be successful.
One simulation indicated it would require 400 or so missiles to do the job. At best, entrances and exits from the underground facility could be collapses and that would certainly delay the program. The radiation from the strikes would need to dissipate and the tunnels would have to be rebuilt. It is possible such a strike could be times when Iran??s nuclear weapons were being brought above ground, but that would be extremely difficult to pull off.
Iran??s move to build its nuclear program underground was brilliant. They learned the lessons of Iraq in 1981. However, the key defense of the move is also its biggest weakness. Namely, any nuclear weapon developed underground could not be used until it is brought above ground at already known locations. A nuclear strike at those locations would keep the weapons out of Iranian hands underneath irradiated soil. That move, however, is only a temporary solution.
It is likely that both Israel and the US have drawn up simulations and plans but every indication is that they are a last resort. The other fact is that these plans aren??t precisely secret, at least in general. Leaking the plans now, just shortly after sanctions have been levied against Iran indicate that the plans were likely not coming from Israel.
Iran??s general tactic has been to run the clock and delay as much as possible. This indicates that they are likely very close to being finished making nuclear weapons which would change the dynamics of diplomacy greatly. They have every incentive to keep stalling until they??ve met that landmark.
This plan, being leaked now in the way it was only gives more cover to Iran. The international community and human rights groups will likely jump all over Israel and demand investigations and action. Despite basically looking the other way of actual genocide going on in Darfur, they??ll jump to action on the rumor of a hypothetical ??genocide.? We??ll skip past the international community??s non-response over Iran??s very public desire to commit genocide against Israel.
This leaking has every indication that it was done by Iran, or a supporter or Iran, to give more cover and time. While international eyes are peering at Israel, Iran??s program will continue undeterred.
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
I heard about this too yesterday off my dad, it does sound very grim, but we as the public do not know the whole truth so we shouldn't judge yet, In my opinion Bush has another 2 years left in power and the democrats control the senate and congress so Bush can pass any laws anymore so I think this is his way of getting at Iran after all his threats, just my opinion and also, why is Israel allowed to have nuclear weapons and Iran isn't? I'm completely against nukes but if Israel have it (and they're more of a threat to all Arab countries) then why can't Iran have it. Not fair is it, then again life isn't fair.
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
The size of Israel is only 10,000 sq. miles. How can they let a country that has called for its destruction become nuclear capable?
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
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Originally Posted by Torog
Just calm down..take a couple of deep breaths..relax..yer just having a Cindy Sheehan moment..hopefully-it'll pass and won't become permanent..lol. :D
I'm sorry, but I think you are mistaken. How am I having a Cindy Sheehan moment? I respect her a lot but I provided both sides of my argument. In Canada, most people are against your war in Iraq and they believe George W. Bush is a warmongering moron on a mission. It's common knowledge that people around the world and in Canada believe the Iraq War was based on false intelligence and that Iran will be a likely target by the US later on. I don't see why the West must support Israel 100%. More and more people are fearing the US now. With great power, comes great responsibility and it is not responsible for a country to flat out attack another one if the intelligence was false and posed no threat.
We like Americans. We just don't like your leader.
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This is why they are calling BS on nukes, cant cut funds to israel they need all OUR money in which we could used to secure our borders, build more schools among other such things.....
NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION PREVENTION ACT OF 1994 (April 30, 1994)
Sections 821 and 824 mandate sanctions against any person determined to have helped a non-nuclear-weapon state acquire nuclear material or devices. The sanctions prohibit any such person from bidding on U.S. federal government procurement or from dealing in federal bonds.
Section 825 prohibits the Export-Import Bank of the United States (Ex-Im Bank) from providing credits to any country that helps a non-nuclear-weapon state acquire nuclear devices or materials.
The law also amends the Arms Export Control Act in a number of ways. It prohibits U.S. government sales of munitions and defense services to countries violating nuclear non-proliferation agreements. It prohibits foreign aid to any country that receives or delivers to another country nuclear enrichment materials or technology without proper safeguards or that attempts to export illegally from the United States anything used to make nuclear weapons. It also requires a number of sanctions against both sides in a transfer of nuclear devices, components, or designs from any country to a non-nuclear-weapon country.
http://www.burmalibrary.org/reg.burm.../msg00229.html
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
Here's some more info on the Israel Nuclear connection........guess what LOVELY country was behind that? Vous faire parle le français?
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/
Here's another scenario; The End Of The World.
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
mutually assured destruction... is what the US & USSR agreed on, so why not let it happen with Iran & israel...........i agree if israel can have nukes then everyone deserves em tooo, lets knock Earths Orbit out of whack maybe get a lil closer to the sun or sumthing
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
Why not? You might think starting WWIII would be a tough idea to sell, but it seems otherwise.
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
Before people get too exited, try to remember that pretty much every country in the nuke club has plans for nuking just about everyone else in the club, and a lot of non-clubbers too.
Remember that movie War Games from the 80's? Remember at the end when the NORAD computer ran through all the nuclear war scenarios (and then said "strange game, there can be no winner")? There were hundreds of them. That means hundreds of plans for nuclear war. But, despite G. Dubya's wet dreams, we haven't nuked anyone yet.
This is the same thing as a year or so ago when everyone got so exited after that Chinese general said China did have plans for nuking the U.S.. Well...duh. I would figure it was bs if they said they didn't.
Remember folks, having plans for a nuclear strike doesn't mean they are planning on a strike.
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Originally Posted by Fengzi
Before people get too exited, try to remember that pretty much every country in the nuke club has plans for nuking just about everyone else in the club, and a lot of non-clubbers too.
Remember that movie War Games from the 80's? Remember at the end when the NORAD computer ran through all the nuclear war scenarios (and then said "strange game, there can be no winner")? There were hundreds of them. That means hundreds of plans for nuclear war. But, despite G. Dubya's wet dreams, we haven't nuked anyone yet.
This is the same thing as a year or so ago when everyone got so exited after that Chinese general said China did have plans for nuking the U.S.. Well...duh. I would figure it was bs if they said they didn't.
Remember folks, having plans for a nuclear strike doesn't mean they are planning on a strike.
Agreed, i'm glad i'm not part of the club.
Nuke's are quite a predicament. Everyone agrees we'd all be better off without them. But since we have them can that ever happen...
A wonderful example of the prisoners dilemma and Game Theory
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Israel planning a nuclear strike on Iran
Torog,
Thanks for summing up in two pictures everything I hate about America
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Originally Posted by harris7
Agreed, i'm glad i'm not part of the club.
Nuke's are quite a predicament. Everyone agrees we'd all be better off without them. But since we have them can that ever happen...
A wonderful example of the prisoners dilemma and Game Theory
LOL....better check again my friend. You don't think that the U.S. has a couple of silos in Canada? Russia is just across the pole dude. They may not be yours but your holding our stash.....same penalty.:(
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
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If Israel uses these "low yield" nuclear weapons on Iran, it will be the first time nukes have been used since the US bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.
We've gone 62 years without using nukes. Do you think we could extend it to one more year? It would be foolish for any side to use these destructive weapons.
Thank goodness Canada doesn't have any nukes.
And I've noticed a lot of ball busting here in the politics forum. :confused:
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Originally Posted by HinduKush83
And I've noticed a lot of ball busting here in the politics forum. :confused:
That's typical.........best to wear your cup in these parts. It does get heated at times.....
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
LOL....better check again my friend. You don't think that the U.S. has a couple of silos in Canada? Russia is just across the pole dude. They may not be yours but your holding our stash.....same penalty.:(
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
Well I don??t pay for them and my country doesn??t support them. I am only morally responsible for my actions not the actions of the US.
I don??t agree with us holding them but they are still The US??s and it really doesn??t matter if there in Washington or Canada. Another Nuke is another Nuke.
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Originally Posted by harris7
Well I don??t pay for them and my country doesn??t support them. I am only morally responsible for my actions not the actions of the US.
I don??t agree with us holding them but they are still The US??s and it really doesn??t matter if there in Washington or Canada. Another Nuke is another Nuke.
Something I found on Wikipedia while researching nuclear weapons involving Canada. We're not off the hook completely. Sucks eh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_...ss_destruction
"Canada has long been closely linked with the United States' nuclear weapons program. The Manhattan Project was the product of a secret agreement between the USA, Canada and the UK, signed in Québec City in August 1943. Canada contributed help from Canadian scientists, policy supervision by C.D. Howe and uranium from Canadian mines (other uranium sources included the American Southwest and the Belgian Congo). Since Canada had just become the recipient of the world's supply of heavy water, it was also hoped that Canada could manufacture plutonium for the bomb effort. Canada developed a superior process for plutonium extraction, but no Canadian reactor was completed until just after the end of the war. After the Second World War Canada became a world leader in nuclear research through its Chalk River Laboratories. The NRX reactor and a small plutonium extraction plant were built there in 1947, and supplied plutonium for the first British bomb. For the next twenty years, the Chalk River Laboratories (later incorporated into Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (AECL) ) continued to sell plutonium to the USA's military weapons program. Canadian research was shared freely with the United States and played an important role in the continued development of American nuclear weapons."
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Originally Posted by HinduKush83
Thank goodness Canada doesn't have any nukes.
You absolute on that? And in a country that 90% of its people live within 100 miles of the US boarder. Do you think the fallout would just stop at the boarder if the US was hit?
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
God if you are out there and listening....please stop them. This will start the war of all wars....:(
[align=left]??Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.?[/align]
[align=left]?? I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.?[/align]
[align=left]He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.?[/align]
[align=left]Albert Einstein[/align]
Havent you heard?
Voice of god revealed to be the voice of dick cheney on a intercom.
And i thought christianity was a poor religion that could only afford one god. geez.
dai*ma:stoned:
In other news *beep* *beep* *beep*..."president" bushs trust in the american people hits an all time low, as he now wants to start reading our mail
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Originally Posted by daima
In other news *beep* *beep* *beep*..."president" bushs trust in the american people hits an all time low, as he now wants to start reading our mail
He can read?
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Originally Posted by wrasler
f.y.i. hindu kush, the jews inhabited present-day israel for over four thousand years, up until they were expelled by the romans after a failed revolt in 132 a.d. the arab population filled the gap after that and was the somewhat exclusive inhabitants until the jewish movement to return to their homeland. the partition the u.n. passed in 1948 would have had the jewish and arab population coexisting, each with an equal share of land and their own sovereignty. however, the day the british troops left, 5 surrounding arab nations (the invaders also include the palestinians) invaded the israeli side and got their asses kicked by the jews. on top of that, several other times israel has been attacked by its muslim neighbors, and has not once taken over arab land unless first provoked. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE THEY DONE THAT IS WRONG?!?
sorry for the history schpeel, but seriously, how do you figure the arabs are the "rightful" owners of the land??
Judaism is a just a religion and what we call "Judaism" today was formed after the Babylonian exile when it was mixed with Babylonian religion...hence the idea of good and evil and the concept of a Devil. What we call the "Old Testament" could possibly be written in the 400-500's BC although fundamentalists will take it that it was written by Moses during the Sinai wandering around 1400 BC.
You were missing the point though. Today's Arabs and the Jews of the past pretty much shared the same Semetic genetics, so hence that is why they are called brothers. They were the same people! They were not white people as most Jews are today. They were what you would call today's Arabs.
Now the Jews were expelled from that land during the Exile and hence we have the Lost Tribes of Israel who went to other lands and were never heard from again because they adapted to the cultures and customs of the peoples they came in contact with. When the Jews returned to Palestine, they rebuilt the Temple and then they were occupied by the Romans in which they were finally expelled when Titus destroyed Herod's Temple. They again spread out keeping their religion but now they were white and of European genetics now.
The concept of Zionism was actually conceived in the 19th century, so it is rather new. The British encouraged Jews to settle Palestine. For what reason, that bewilders me. I don't see how they could not have foreseen problems with the Muslim Arabs.
To me, Zionism is pretty dangerous because it is based on a radical view of the Bible and its the same as the Muslim jihadist's radical view of the Quran. The radical Jews are just as guilty as the radical Muslims.
I don't think any person with a clear and rational mind would think its a good idea for radical Jews to retake a land that was taken thousands of years ago.
You don't see Zoroastrians killing Muslims to take back Iran do you? You don't see Druids killing Christians to take back Europe after the Christianizing do you? Because they have gotten over it and have accepted it and have moved on. Why can't the Jews accept this?
History is history my friend. If you are so obsessed and want to defend giving back the Jews the land that they were exiled from 2,000 years ago, you have problems and need a hobby. The Americans did not make slavery illegal until the Emancipation Proclamation in 1865, and yet the Americans have still not made reparations for enslaving blacks. Whenever I talk to an American about that, a good chunk say that they shouldn't because they didn't enslave them and they believe the past is the past. And you want to say that America should support and defend Israel an take away the land that Arabs have been living on for 2,000 years? Doesn't make sense and it is damn fishy to me. And don't use the Holocaust as an excuse for Israel being there. I agree to an extent that the Holocaust was exaggerated. The schoolbooks forget to mention that Hitler killed more people then Jews. He first killed communists.
Would you like it if the North American Natives said one day to the Americans and Canadians "We want our land back that you took from us in blood, and if you do not give it back to us, we will kill you and your children"? I mean the Americans did put the Indians on reservations, but yet you don't see them today shouting violent slogans.
Believe me...I am not anti-semitic at all and I think it would be wonderful for these people to live side by side as they are rooted in the same religious and philosophical beliefs. But killing each other in Jehovah's or Allah's name and driving the Arabs off of their land is wrong and immoral and I will not support the current state of Israel unless Palestinians and Jews agree to have a SECULAR and democratic state in that region where both Jews and Muslims can live and worship together.
Also, what do you think Jesus would say about this? Jesus looked just like an Arab and I he would definitely not approve of the genocide and would tell the Jews to forget about having their own religious state because it will only lead to more violence and chaos.
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You oversimplfy the "genetics" part. I would suggest that you refer to cultural and religous comparisons, because human genetics are much too complicated to put into a political discussion - unless you are an expert at that science.
"Today's Arabs" are considered, genetically, to be Indo-European. The other races are Native American, East Asian, and African. Some people, of course, have several of these in their genes.
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Originally Posted by harris7
Torog,
Thanks for summing up in two pictures everything I hate about America
Howdy harris7,
Yer welcome ! Glad I could oblige ya ! :D
Say..shouldn't ya be gittin a copy of the koran and be studying for yer conversion ?
Have a good one ! :jointsmile: