the green man

well, ive decided to adopt a religion.
ive looked at a lot of things, christianity, catholicism, judaism, hinduism.... well, a lot of stuff, but most of it either smells like a load of bullshit or doesnt appeal to me (no offense to anyone)
ive decided on a pagan religion, simply because some of them deal with what i love most: plants.
ive gone to a lot of sites trying to find which pagan religion the green man belongs in but havent really found anything, just a lot of merchandise and crap.
while i may not neccessarily believe in a god, i believe that the green man would simply be the embodiment of plant life itself, which i think sounds nice.
i would appreciate it if somebody could direct me to some books about the green man or whatever god/ess deals with nature in the pagan theology, it doesnt have to be the green man, but he seems to be the god of plants.

apparently, the green man is a recent name and it is possible that it might actually be cernunnos, the horned celtic god of the wild. the christian religion adopted cernunnos' look and gave it the name "satan" to represent all evil.
cernunnos may be the father god of the wiccan beliefs. although by father god they do not mean creator god, but father god while aradia is the mother god and the creator of them is simply known as "the one"

I don't mean to bust your bubble but God is the Green Man. He's the one with the green thumb. :greenthumb:
He's the one who made the garden. He planted the seeds for us to eat. Every seed comes from its parent. We are of him.

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

I don't mean to bust your bubble but God is the Green Man. He's the one with the green thumb. :greenthumb:
He's the one who made the garden. He planted the seeds for us to eat. Every seed comes from its parent. We are of him.

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that is your belief, you hold it as truth but in reality, it is a belief that is unfounded. technically, according to your faith you have just blasphemed against your god.
the green man was around long before christianity or even judaism was created and is a pagan diety.

What you fail to realize is that christianity was around long before Christ. :bong:

Wiki article on the Green Man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Man

Fraternal order based around the belief in/worship of the Green Man http://www.bogbrothers.org/

Pagan forums where I'm sure you can find someone who knows alot about the subject http://www.mysticwicks.com/index.php

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

What you fail to realize is that christianity was around long before Christ. :bong:

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it was known as judaism and those of the jewish faith do not recognize jesus as the messiah, only a man. :bong:
paganism predates history, while your religion claims that everything has been recorded since the beginning of time in the bible, starting with adam and eve.

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Originally Posted by sanguinekane

Wiki article on the Green Man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Man

Fraternal order based around the belief in/worship of the Green Man http://www.bogbrothers.org/

Pagan forums where I'm sure you can find someone who knows alot about the subject http://www.mysticwicks.com/index.php

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thanks a lot :thumbsup:
ive already been to the wikipedia page on the green man

"it was known as judaism and those of the jewish faith do not recognize jesus as the messiah, only a man."

Jesus is the Spirit so anyone with his Spirit knows him. He revealed himself in the garden of Eden to Adam and Eve when he made them coats of skins. They had tried to cover themselves with their own works but it took blood shed to get the coats of skin. God revealed salvation to them. Christians believe in Christ. Christ is from the beginning. What religion goes back that far?

Adam was a christian.
Jesus is the Son of God.

I don't know what to say. Hahaha

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

"it was known as judaism and those of the jewish faith do not recognize jesus as the messiah, only a man."

Jesus is the Spirit so anyone with his Spirit knows him. He revealed himself in the garden of Eden to Adam and Eve when he made them coats of skins. They had tried to cover themselves with their own works but it took blood shed to get the coats of skin. God revealed salvation to them. Christians believe in Christ. Christ is from the beginning. What religion goes back that far?

Adam was a christian.
Jesus is the Son of God.

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so your bible claims, but of course it would. according to your bible christianity has been around forever. but when we look at actual history we find that christianity is an offshoot of judaism, and that would make adam a jew, not a christian.
make your own thread if you want to start this argument, this thread is for the green man.

Make your own religion.

At the core of it, only you hold the steering wheel of your personal infinite.

Or maybe you don't...
There are so many possibilities...

Where did you hear about the Greenman? I've heard of Pan; is that the same one?

let's go a step beyond the green man and jump headlong into animism. all things containing and being deities in and of themselves. the wind, the water, you, me etc.

the nice thing about animism is that you can cut out the idea of worship, who would have the time to do a thorough job of it (it would really cut into your free time if you had millions of gods to praise each day). worship could become a constant act of merely being thankful to be alive.

The Green Man ownz all!!!

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Originally Posted by OniEhtRedrum781

The Green Man ownz all!!!

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there you go, turning this into a monotheistic thing again

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Originally Posted by OniEhtRedrum781

The Green Man ownz all!!!

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Hahahahaha, that made my morning.

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Originally Posted by JunkYard

Where did you hear about the Greenman? I've heard of Pan; is that the same one?

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possibly, the green man has had so many names, pan is a satyr, cernunnos is a being with stag horns etc. they maight be one and the same. the greeen man seems to be a recurring figure in most cultures.

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Originally Posted by JunkYard

Where did you hear about the Greenman? I've heard of Pan; is that the same one?

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I'd say Pan and the Green Man share certain characteristics and are simmilar in ways, but I'd stop short of calling them the same thing.

its actually kind of funny, the christians persecuted pagans and their religions yet they put a pagan god in some of their gothic churches.

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Originally Posted by MastaChronic

its actually kind of funny, the christians persecuted pagans and their religions yet they put a pagan god in some of their gothic churches.

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not to mention coincided their two most important holidays with pagan ones, and continue to use pagan imagery (xmas, winter solstice, christmas tree) (easter, eggs, bunny, representing rebirth of life in spring)

yeah, its strange

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

"it was known as judaism and those of the jewish faith do not recognize jesus as the messiah, only a man."

Jesus is the Spirit so anyone with his Spirit knows him. He revealed himself in the garden of Eden to Adam and Eve when he made them coats of skins. They had tried to cover themselves with their own works but it took blood shed to get the coats of skin. God revealed salvation to them. Christians believe in Christ. Christ is from the beginning. What religion goes back that far?

Adam was a christian.
Jesus is the Son of God.

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Rock on! Eternaty is a pretty long time to be forever seperated from the only True God of the bible. Guess that's a choice some people are content with.

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

"it was known as judaism and those of the jewish faith do not recognize jesus as the messiah, only a man."

Jesus is the Spirit so anyone with his Spirit knows him. He revealed himself in the garden of Eden to Adam and Eve when he made them coats of skins. They had tried to cover themselves with their own works but it took blood shed to get the coats of skin. God revealed salvation to them. Christians believe in Christ. Christ is from the beginning. What religion goes back that far?

Adam was a christian.
Jesus is the Son of God.

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I was going to really pick apart this post, but I dont want to offend anyone, so I'll leave it at this:

Judeo-Christianity goes back 6-8 thousand years (somewhere around there). History shows Hinduism to predate this by a large amount of time, and animistic religions go back even further. Monotheism was a relatively late idea compared to other earlier religions.

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Originally Posted by orange floyd

I was going to really pick apart this post, but...

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just as well you didn't.

from animism to polytheism to monotheism, each one has held the "truth". the fact that christianity is merely an offshoot of judaism is lost on most modern day christians. as is the fact that each religion has historically stolen the best and most popular bits and pieces of its predecessors.

each time we have gone through a major change in religious attitude we have decreased the number of gods and lost some of the joy of "just being alive".

now we seem to have a new sheriff in town, the religion of science. finally they have reduced the number of deities to zero and in the process they have destroyed the last of the magic in living. this is called progress. soon we must place our faith in test tubes and theories, soon we will be jaded at birth.

shit, i've just depressed myself and, at the same time given a good reason to keep religion alive. so let's get to it boys and girls, let's reverse this cycle to oblivion and bring back animism. i'm willing to make the sacrifice. are you?


i'm sorry but i've just got to ask "which one's pink?"

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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity

just as well you didn't.

now we seem to have a new sheriff in town, the religion of science. finally they have reduced the number of deities to zero and in the process they have destroyed the last of the magic in living. this is called progress. soon we must place our faith in test tubes and theories, soon we will be jaded at birth.

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OK I know you are just kidding but...

Comparing science and faith is like Apples and Oranges. Science needs evidence - faith does not. LOL - Like you don't know this already.

The "Magic" of living is made fully available to me through understanding, knowledge and elightenment - some call it Biology ;)

i have faith that this pencil in front of me will float in the air when i try to drop it................................................ ........WTF!?!?!?!?it fell to the ground? well i guess faith is just another word for assume then, i assumed the pencil would float in the air, but instead it fell. i was wrong


oh and heres a good analogy for most religions

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/hank.php

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Originally Posted by orange floyd

I was going to really pick apart this post, but I dont want to offend anyone, so I'll leave it at this:

Judeo-Christianity goes back 6-8 thousand years (somewhere around there). History shows Hinduism to predate this by a large amount of time, and animistic religions go back even further. Monotheism was a relatively late idea compared to other earlier religions.

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Pick what apart? Who will get offended with the truth? Bring it on!!!
I think you missed my whole point. I'll repeat it. FUCK RELIGION!!!

Are you trying to tell me that there was religion before Adam?
I got tired of replying to all these unbelieving threads, but yours was comical so it caught my attention.

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

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Pick what apart? Who will get offended with the truth? Bring it on!!!
I think you missed my whole point. I'll repeat it. FUCK RELIGION!!!

Are you trying to tell me that there was religion before Adam?
I got tired of replying to all these unbelieving threads, but yours was comical so it caught my attention.

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what he is sayiong is if we look at ACTUAL history then we see that there was evidence of other religions before judaism/christianity/wtfe ever came into existance, christianity was created by man as was every other religion.
and again pts and anybody else that wants to argue, go make your own thread as this one is for the green man.

on a different note, i believe the greenman isnt really a god at all, but more of a personification of nature

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Originally Posted by sanguinekane

I'd say Pan and the Green Man share certain characteristics and are simmilar in ways, but I'd stop short of calling them the same thing.

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Pan is NOT the Green Man. Pan is the son of Hermes in greek mythology. And the Green man represents the Celtic God. I'm sorry if this was already cleared up, I didn't read all of the replies.

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Originally Posted by S.P.Q.R.

Pan is NOT the Green Man. Pan is the son of Hermes in greek mythology. And the Green man represents the Celtic God. I'm sorry if this was already cleared up, I didn't read all of the replies.

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the green man's true name is cernunnos, god of the wild.