kp's analytical strain study; growers of all strains wanted and welcomed:)

hi everybody:yippee: i've been around the board for a grow now, and i'm becoming more and more interested in the geneological differences of strains.

~some background~

i've been growing outside for 7 or 8 years. always bagseed. i'm scared to death of the big brother effect that we call "the government" so i've never ever oredered anything online, nor have i ever given my true name or address. for this reason, i've never had "good" seeds. anything i've grown has turned out decent, but nothing like my first kb experience (nl, ohhhh so amazing:)) or any other after (yukon gold, strawberry, blueberry, and a few i couldn't confirm)

so... i recently obtained seeds from an ex. he is in the know with a grower, and i ended up with a mixed blend of trainwreck and blueberry. with these "high dollar" seeds, i decided to go inside:thumbsup:

i'm nearing the end of my first indoor grow, and getting ready to do some remodeling for an easy access perpetual.

~intermediary note~
anything i say is fictional. if i did do any of this stuff, i wouldn't be putting it here. if i was taking part in illegal activities, it would be strictly for my medical needs, and nothing else. completely personal.

i found another friend who'll hopefully be expanding my strain line, but i don't know what he has in mind. my goal is to obtain a collection of exotics, to rotate in and out. i produce my own seeds, so reproduction is no prob, i just have to work on building an initial collection.

so anyway, i have decided to start a thread on the many different strains, examples, descriptions, tips, effects, favorites, wish lists, new breeds, ......

basically, i want to make a strain enclyclopedia thread that is based on your personal experience, rather than textbook explanations.



i hope everyone enjoys and that we get a lot of participation:)

until we meet again,

love, kp:p

you truly are one of the most intelligent women i've ever "met" :)

so does that mean we're married now?

iloveu

hehe

Hey silly goose, you think that I would forget about you? Right now it is the holiday season and I have folks that I am trying to make things special for this time of year so try not to be so hard on me. Since you have got a handle on so many things you don't have as nearly as many questions so I just stop in and go over your threads and say hy, but know that I am still your darling Bear.
So don't be too quick to give my afections away to the next passer by. I would try to get to know you even better, but time and relations don't permit, but I am still as good as a partner as the old World Wide Web will allow.
I will check back in later. I think Stinky could contribute about 150 smoke reports to this thread. She seems to grow out more flavers than Basken Robins.

Bear hugs from your Blue Adieu

i hope she comes over, i read her entire thread today (wow) and was inspired to create this thread.

Ms. Stinky? this one's for you;)

i'm sending you a hush, bear;)

love, kp:p

hey kindprincess ,
if you look in medicinal/health n scan my thread on burns /amputations/phantom pain you'll find my contact info. email or add it no your msn instant messenger . holler .
peace
crispi

darling bear, your mail does not work anymore...

could you please email me?

[email protected]

thanx;)

love, your little princess:p

I sent you a wisper so check it out when you get the chance.
Got to feed all of the little ones and give them a CO2 treatment so I'll be outtro.
Adieu

hmmmm....

i think they may be having a site prob; or my hearing is going;)
try once more; if it doesn't go, i'll get a new account.

thnkx, my darling bear of the wild blue yonder

love, kp:p

~BLUEBERRY~

ok, here's some generalizations i've made about this strain. i performed several experiments throughout the grow, so i'll only go over what was shared amongst all plants.

germed easily, all within 24 hours. broke dirt 24 hours after potting.
all showed deformations between weeks 1 and 3, leaves were curly and abstract. all showed signs of nute burn before they got their first feeding. i think this is a norm for bb, as i've seen several threads of people trying to figure out why their leaves had yellow spots, when everything was balanced and no nutes. respondes well to topping.

they all responded well to their first feeding, showed a passion for n and k.

~description before flower~
plants are extremely lush, with huge fan leaves. blueish tint and purple/red stems. short and bushy.

~description during flower~
all (3) still have blueish hue, nodes are tight with leaves that block the light from the bud. extremely compact. late bloomers, took two weeks to show.
fat white fluffy pistils, tops look like umbrellas. after topping, all lateral branches stretched out, 20 cola's per plant. good producer when topped.


i'll be posting another bb description in a few weeks, as i watch these finish out.

kp:cool:

~TRAINWRECK~

germed within 24 hours, 100% popped, broke dirt in a day. started out kinda stringy showing sativa-like traits (thin, long leaves, the desire to grow, grow, grow. did not recover well from topping; they became viney and weak stemmed
responded well to equal parts n p k.

~description before flower~
light green and purple, with a reddish/purple hue. stringy, sativa like, only smaller. more lateral growth than apical.

~description during flower~
trippled size in two weeks, gained strength, and flowered in 3-4 days after 12-12. viney, but amazing site numbers, and looks to be an excellent yeilder. glistening with oil and trichs. dark green leaves, light green stalk, reddish/purple leaf stems. very pungent if touched. branches are unable to sustain weight of buds, and have to be tied and manipulated, stems snap easily though. i've had to play doctor to two of them, as they got so heavy they bent over, kinking the stalk. healed in a day, growth never slowed. this strain has impressed me so far...

i'll be posting another description of tw in a couple of weeks, once these are finished.

kp:cool:

does anyone know if yukon gold is still out there?

love, kp:p

~White Widow/Rhino~

..F1 seeds from Holland...germinated 18 out of 20 seeds..directly into the soil

grew so fast under 400HPS Hortilux..I had to play catch-up..the whole grow..

13 out of 18 female...5+ft. tall at harvest....crippling high...

wow, that's a ratio! one that's on my wish list...
my bb's were only 5 out of 8...

Just checking in Princess. I will be posting up a gescription of the strain I am growing soon. I want to breed first so I will have a good idea of how the seeds develop.

I am naming this strain "Black Diamond' because it is a local hybrid that is not supposed to be distributed:D I can't use its given name or shit WILL go down:eek: Its good to know people though:thumbsup:

Seeds will be available after the New Year and so I look forward to letting y'all know how the Diamond performs.

Love

Hey little lady , Sent a line strait to your yahoo, hope you get it. I like the BB and TW descriptions. I have about 24 seedlings going right now and believe it or not I am hoping for a low female turn out because I just don't have the room to do all of the experiments I want to, mess with a 30 gal bubble bucket, throw up a 4x4 ebb and flow and that's with the dirt pots I still have going so I am a busy Bear.
Also the UGold is still around I believe that Reeferman seeds, bad spell has it in seed form.
Hope to get this mail thinggy sourted out.
Adieu

hi bear, finally got your initial messages; maybe they take a while to go through or something:confused: what strains are being concocted in your laboratory?

good luck on your new set up, i may be asking for help soon, as i'd like to start learning the hydro methods. i'm completely green to water growing...

hey cj, do you have any pix? love to see a black diamond (girl's best friend you know;))

love, kp:p

Hey Bear and KP...Bear...you are entering my dreams. It is kind of wierd. I almost never remember my dreams. I must be refining my astral projection skills. You were held up in some mountains snowed in for work or something like that. In my dream your wife told me where I could find you. Pretty strange though. You were as cool in my dream as you are here on the board.

Do you have some pics you could post of your set up Bear? I have never seen a pic from you so that may be intentional. Please do I would love to see your secret hide out:thumbsup:



Sorry to hijack KP. You will love the Diamond as I already know your taste and preferences. Don't worry Bear you will be having quite a new year fiesta with all the beans you will be getting.

Love

i do believe the bear of blue will have a wonderful christmas this year:) i hope we all do.

dreams are wierd... last night, whilest under from the recently dried sage, i laid out and slept for a few hours; my brother came in my room to ask me some particulars about the day.

i said, "we've got two more females! going to call it the widdow's diamond..."

wow, widdow's diamond... is that my subconcious making plans for a black widdow, white widdow, and black diamond cross?

have a friend who is going to try to procure some black widdow, and yukon.... i hope he does; he said he'd pass on a couple goldies:D

hope everyone is doing well, i look forward to post holidays bear; maybe we can get to know each other better, compare notes, etc... i always love picking your bear of a blue brain (don't think that came off right, but i meant it lovingly:p) would also love some strain descriptions from the ak laboratories:)

love to all;)

kp:p

Hey KP my lady and CJ my boy. Well as far as pics, I have to depend on my wife for allot of visual type things like photos because of my sight problem and she is not always motivated to use the camera that she pleaded for, LOL, but I will try in the next few days.
Beans, beans and more beans, how delightful. Dreams, Dreams and more dreams??? I do live like a hermit and don't go out way to much, to busy being Mr. mom and reading dusty old books from the 19th and 18th century and before, and the MJ farming consumes my existence for the most part and that is without being snowed in, luckily most of my work is at home. I am a LMT, but don't practice too much. I guess that you could say that I am indeed hibernating for the winter.
Strains, well I have been messing around with a Afghani land race strain and I just got a Afghani mix from the East coast that I am growing out as I type and I still have some BigbudxSkunk floating around my city that I need to get a cloan back from, I think that I may have a Afghani X Skunk X bigbud highbred in the mix as well. Oh ya I am growing out 1 Purple Lion strain that I picked up from a friend who got it from Ultimate seeds. If it go's well I will get some more clones from him and raise up a mother.
If I get my family out of this home this summer I will just dedicate this cave to my projects and think about really refining some local strains and stack up some mother plants. I may go old school and just put the mothers in 5 gallon buckets with some Shultz potting soil and just have to water and change them out once a year or so. I like my bonsai, but i like the robust vigor of the big moms as well.

Well it is late in my neck of the woods and I need to catch up on some snoring. KP, glad to have you as a friend and hope that we can keep building. CJ, also hope the same with you. Are you in the North or South? I have a good friend in Humboldt around Garberville along with a little partner in Diego. How are those ebb and flow treys doing? My partner pulls about 2LB off of one 4x4 under a 1K with no CO2, LOL Hope your luck is as good.
Adieu
PS I will give some descriptions tomorrow if all go's well. KP, little goose, --- Be safe and Love yours...

i just realized something. ~lightbulb~

i grew out the bagseed and called it sage, but i can say it's predom sativa. very cerebral, spacey, almost stupefying. not very much body effect, though. great for anxiety/nerves.

got blueberry going. super couchlock.... hmm.....

i pollenated a sage clone with a bb male. stupefy+supercouch? holy crap!

i can't wait to plant a couple of those seeds:D

this is going to be fun:)

love, kp:p

collected about ten seeds from sage; and she's got many more...

about half are going to be feminized sage, half are bbxsage or twxsage, kinda like a scratch and spliff;)

that's the update, y'all have my email...

love, kp:p

Ahhh you have sage...
My favorite smoke of all time. Sweetly herbal, happy, talkative, relaxing, and VERY strong. Nice bag appeal too. I like the pure clear green color of the buds.

This weekend I sampled some of the Afghan that just came down. The seeds were given to me as 'Afghani Dream' by an old hippie friend's son who is a breeder. Smoke report is incomplete as was the cure, but it still was just ridiculous stuff- frostiest buds I've personally ever seen 'in the flesh', almost TOO strong- a friend's boyfriend who fancies himself a serious smoker took one hit and yakked all over himself. Ha ha serves him right for bragging about how he gets G-13 for free from some dude he mucks stables for, lol. I've seen his so-called G13. More like Canadian mids... solid, reasonably strong, but boring really.

Let's see what else... there's something growing in the garden right now that has a SERIOUS sweet orange candy smell... 2 plants show the trait, just inbred bagseeds from my whole grow history...updates on those ladies to follow; they will be getting pollenated with Smashberry to try and lock down the strong fruitiness and see how it all shakes out.

Honestly I can't contribute as many smoke reports as I 'd like for a couple reasons; I started grwoing BEFORE I started smoking as a favor to my BF who suffers from anxiety, so I missed the boat on some stuff. Another reason is that most of what I've grown has been bred down from unknown but solid bagseeds and I have no names to put to the plants. But in the next few months it should all be changing as the new stuff comes ripe.
KP this is going to be a FUN thread!!!

Madam Stinky has arrived. Good to see you here Stinky(I like calling you that) you are the "Queen of Strains" from what I can see on the boards so your input and experience is welcomed for sure!! reading through your log inspired me to pop some herbs and veggies in my room. I'll let you know how it goes

KP - Heeeerrrreeeee I aaaammmmmmm. Thought I would come by as promised and let you get a look at the Black Diamond since she is going to become part of your family:)
I am posting pics of her at day 16 just before she got pruned. Today is day 21 and buds are starting to fill in. Yeah!!
Still no word from the seed man here so I will keep you posted.

Sir Bear - I have also been kicking around the idea of soil for my moms.(less maintainence) I will only be able to have 2 or maybe three in my current closet growth area but that should be enough for now.
I am in Nor Cal, Sacramento. I would love to have friends in Humbolt. It is so beautiful up there in the redwoods. The coastline up north is incredible as well.

All - Is there a how to for pollenating on the board? I would love to see some takes on getting it done. Not that it should be rocket science but I would like to peep its out there.

Peace and much love All -Jay

Pollenating... simple, just slip the open male bud into one of those tiny ziplocs that seeds come in, snip off the stem, invert, shake all the pollen down to the bottom, and go around painting it on your horny bitches with a really soft paintbrush.

as I imagined...Thanks

I'm watching

participation is mandatory Gnome :D Voyeurism is unacceptable.

Love

wow, everybody's here but the frog!! this IS going to be fun!

jay, i sent off your chritstmas present today, so you should be seeing it in about 5 days... open and do what you will as soon as possible...so it doesn't go bad.
awesome pix! can we get a close up? i wish i had a cam...

hi stinkyattic:) i was wondering when i'd hear from you; i love your log, you've inspired me! i'm going to be creating a collection:thumbsup: i've heard some great things about the middle easterners;) and sage is truely incredible! i've forgotten how much fun a super-intense energetic head high can be:) love the flavour too...

to bear, crispi, and anyone else... my mail is on acid or something...messages aren't being sent, and some not recieved... i'll make a new one tonite.

had a REALY bad prob with spider mites last night. it's like they popped up from nowhere and built NYC right on top of a cola. i hosed the infected and surrounding areas with safer's insecticidal soap. i think that might have been the demise of bb#5... just hope the little bastards don't transfer themselves...as of now, no signs of alien life; all green to go here...

traiwreck is 2-3 weeks from harvest. buds are so leaden that the branches have had to be tied up to support the weight! and the smell is incredible! kinda pineysweet...

bb's are about 2 weeks behind in developement. leaves in the buds block a lot of light, but i don't think i'll be doing any pruning. i'll see what they do on their own.

hi knowm, long time babe. how've you been? please drop by more often;)

bear, you're up:D

love, kp:p

hey kp ,
check your email .
luv
crispi :thumbsup:

hey crispi, got your good word, left you a note:)

also sent word out to fragrance of elevation, and the diamond miner...

still waiting to hear from my darling bear...

my mail seems to be working again; don't know what's up with that...

well, i'll see you guys in a little while, going to cruise the boards...

love, kp:p

Hey little lady, your the only thread I am checking out right now, because I wanted to let you know I haven't vaneshed. I am going to check my Hush in a minute, but as of the last time I had no luck.
I am just so busy. I have 11 in flower, 9 one month olds about to go in, 14 seedlings about 9 days old, 5 new cuts in the bubble cloner and 8 other cuttings in the process of rooting. For me it is a little tireing having so many little ones in different stages of life. I am going to flush out a couple tonight with about 4 gallons of fresh water.
I am going to get you a good DIY DWC link and try to put together some good basic hydroponic links to get your feets wet.
Well, gone, but hopefully not forgotten.
Bear hugs from Blue Adieu

Well, no mail for the Bear yet, boohoo.
Well I am off to my farm.
Nighty night, adieu

ok, my darling bear... i'm sending another...and looking forward to a good read;)

love, kp:p

ok, i think it went through; let me know, if you don't get it, i'll make a new account...

love, kp:p

It worked out and my day is off to a good start. LOL Well, I have to get to the garden store so I will be exiting stage left.
Adieu

hello everyone, hope all is well:)

stinky, did your papaya's show a lot of lavender? i've seen a pic at rhino that was beautiful beyond comprehension; most exotic strain i've ever seen!

~side note~
my spidermite prob is not solved. i found some more (very few for now) and i need some help with eradication... #5 is not looking too good, hairs are all turned brown, leaves are crispy... i think she's a goner. now, i've spotted some on #4... this is not good...

i'll check back later,

love, kp:p

Are you seeing just mites.. or mites + webs ?

iloveyou

mites and webs...

KP, the papayas are only just flowering now so I'll let you know how they turn out; as I said, I was growing a bagseed line up until only this summer so all the 'good' strains are either vegging or flowering with the exception of the Afghani Dream, which is rejuving right now for clones.

Well I hate to say but I finally broke down and bug-bombed this morning. My flying pest problem was really starting to piss me off because there's only so much you can do with the neem in flower, ya know?

So I went to home depot and found a fogger that contains only pyrethrins and no activators. The activators can be nasty. This one is a Raid product with only permethrin in it... I'll let you know how it works out, but I harvested anything that looked even close to ready because now anything in there is STAYING there for at least the next week while that shit breaks down.

GADS I'm so glad I haven't had mites yet.