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Hey guys.. I'm planning on growing in a few months when I get my own place.. A buddy from school wants to sell me a 1000 watt HPS Light for $230.. which is a good price for that type of light.
I know it comes with its own generator but you still have to hook it up to a jack? Hopefully it won't affect my hydro bill too much.. Anybody know anything about this light..? why or why not should I buy it?
Doesn't come with a generator... the box is a ballast.
Find out how many hours are on the bulb, what's the brand, etc.
My friend has it in his house.. it does come with a generator and I don't know the brand but I am getting a brand new bulb with it..
Lucky you then, a good generator runs in the thousands! It's the one thing really missing from my grow in case of a power outage.
you think it'll show in the hydro bill too much?
he said without a generator the bill would skyrocket.. which obviously I don't want cause cops could find out.. but then it won't be much of a difference with a generator?
You will have to pay for fuel. Be careful to run the generator properly exhausted. If you're on a generator you don't plug into the wall socket, you plug into the generator.
Apparently what it has is a battery to boost it so it doesn't just use the energy from the house.. he said if I used 1000 watts from just my house it would cost an extra $60 a month.. I guess a lot less with a battery.
I would get your friend to send you a picture of what it is he is selling you, Then we can all better help you as well you can better help yourself. Like stinky said a generator is mad expensive and runs on GAs. well most of them.
You were mentioning somthing about a battery and stuff. Which would leave me to believe that it is a UPS also known as a power conditioner and or surge protector. They can come with a battery in it so when the power goes out in your house. From say a lightning storm. The UPS takes over and electricy still will flow. For a limited amount of hours. I ahve never read about or seen models that take electricy then charge a battery so your using less wattage? but they may exist.
Its a good thing to have cuz it helps maintain steady current to in your case your new HPS Light. It will also prevent it from shorting out if too much energy is sent through your house.
I use them at the Studio I work at to protect the Avid computers and Pro Tools rigs. These computers cost anywhere from 20,000 to 250,000 with all the cards and Expansion chases. 1000 bucks for a good UPS saves us in the end if the building gets hit by lightning, faces a power outage or power surge.
in a power outage when the power comes back on. A jolt of more wattage can be sent out your socket and fry some electronics. ie. your light or in my case the computers.
Justa bit off topic but some people might care to know...
kd_special
Depending on where you live it would be around 20 - 27 dollars a day per 1000 watts.
I pay around .059 cents per kilowatt hour, my HPS uses about 1075 watts to run the light per hour, im really stoned and tired but below would be the math.
30(.059 x 12) 21.24$ per 30 days
30(.059 x 18) 31.86$ per 30 days.
If you turn your fridge on really low, and quit opening it so much. Dont use 1/2 the lights you don't use, since you really don't need em. Don't sleep with the tv or radio on, and do laundry at the laundry mat. Also be very careful with hot water, a hot water heater can use like 5000 watts per element easy....
I promise you friend if you do what I describe in the last paragraph you will probably have a SMALLER electric bill after you are being more aware of standard electrical usage / cost since your lights are on and you would like to stay " down low ".
Peace and Best Wishes
Ps Generators and Batteries suck to maintain. A good ballast isnt much more than 250$
I didnt read the whole post where you fixed yourself, but this highlighed part freaked me out a lot. But then you corrected yourself with the math. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by OregonsDank
Yep...yep...yep.
TGF
LOL told you im tired! Just woke up from a nap!
Damit I cant edit it lol... 5 minute rule for the lose!
My electric bill went down my first month of growing, only things I had changed were hot water usage, time in shower ect.. and setting house temp at night around 60 instead of 70, throw on an extra blanket :P
This month im running 2000 watts so we shall see though!
Nice.. hopefully the rate will be around the same here.. We'll just def have to watch how we use electricity in the house..
But other than that.. anybody has any info about growing with this light? good one? if I grow a less number of plants would they grow faster than if I grow a lot at the same time?
How long do you think it would take for.. 5-10 plants?
Thats a rip off, he is screwing you over and your a sucker if you pay that much, you can get a brand new one for cheaper or the same price, and you need a 1000 watt high pressure sodium Ballast, not a generator, the Gen. is just going to cost you alot of money to run especially during the Veg stage, they run off of GAS and they are very loued, u will draw attention with one of thoes running all the time and get yourself busted. he is totaly ripping you off you dont need a generator. even at that price with the bulb facterd in is a rip off, do some shopping around online and e-bay u can find way better deal and brand new items. tell him to kiss your ass.
There's no generator.. only a battery that you plug into the wall.. and I looked around the web and a 1000 watt hps system goes for a lot more than what I'm getting it for..
and how do you know the ballast is even the correct type? you need a reflector too, you need fasteners and chains to hang it with, ect ect ect
it has the top part around the light i dunno if thats a ballast.. and it has the fastener and chains to hang it with too..
this is a 1 kw hps ballast:
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics....oducts_id=1386
it's 165$ brand new or you can get a 1kw digital for 350$
a reflector will cost between 65-200$ and a bulb anywhere from $30-100 so you could actually get a new 1kw hps set up for as little as $260!
i just got a 1kw hps ballast, 1kw bulb, a cooltube and a 465cfm ecoplus blower for $325. i already had a ballast housing so i just had to buy a "ballast kit" and wire it myself but i think a brand new1000watt set up for that price is great. if i were you i would search around for a deal on new equipment like i did. i don't think that buying yor friends old set up for $230 is a good deal at all. used equipment is to risky, offer him $50 anfd if he doesn't want to sell spend the extra 30$ and get the brand new set-up for $260. the link i posted is a great place to get what you need if you are interested, i have got stuff from them many times and have never had a problem. i usually recieve my order 3 days after i place it! good luck
Battery isn't going to save you any money. Ballast takes power to operate. Okay, so ballast gets power from battery instead of wall...then battery runs out. Then you recharge battery with what? Electricity... from your wall... I guess if you go over to someone else's house every time you need to recharge the battery, you could save some money, but hard for me to believe any battery a human being is capable of carrying is going to run a 1k light for longer than a few minutes anyway.
The price may or may not be decent. I mean, if it's a dual MH/HPS name brand ballast with 4 years and 10 months left on a 5 year warranty, and comes with a nice reflector and cordset and reasonably fresh bulb, then that'd be a pretty good deal. My new 1k light system was $420 -- hah, just realized that's a funnily coincidental price -- but it's good quality stuff with a 5 year warranty and a great reflector and a new good bulb, and I don't feel ripped off. But then again, part of what I'm paying for is the security of knowing that I've lowered the odds of a fire due to cheap equipment, and that's important to me, since I already watched my house burn down once not too long ago and it was...less than pleasant.
hey man, not trying to be rude but you should really do your homework before you going buying anything. You dont even know the differance between a ballast and a hood. Another thing is buying off someone you call buddy, its sketchy. Buying annonomously is a better bet, the less people who know of your dirty little secret the better off you are. But thats my humble opinion, good luck to you.
Maybe I'm missing something...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aly_G
Maybe it's that it's early in the morning and I'm still slow...
But...
1st-- by 'own generator', I'm almost positive it's the ballast.
2nd-- 'have to hook it up to a jack?'... erm... do you mean, the wall? Or the bulb's socket? wha'?
3rd-- 'hydro bill'... *this* I don't get. Hydro bill? Hydro bill???
I mean... one more time... HYDRO bill??? What the heck is your hydro bill? Your water bill? Your monthly electricity bill? Now is a good time for that nice expression::: WTF?
4th-- I don't think you should buy it. You should buy a new one, as, because of your lack of knowledge, you might get (a) screwed, (b) stuff that doesn't work, (c) old stuff with a short life-span (you *do* know that bulbs need replacing, do you?), and finally (d) YOUR FRIEND is selling you that. So your grow is no longer secret.
Remember::: Loose lips sink ships.
Best to you buddy! :)
Hydro is a term used for most of the utility companies in Canada, for example, "HydroQuebec" is the electric utility company in Quebec.
So, Hydro, means "electric company" to us.
Shov
Batteries are super inefficient... you lose juice while charging it...you lose juice sending DC battery current through the inverter to power your AC setup... Just buy a new standard 120v wall current 1000HPS from inside sun or somewhere and suck it up. Keep it simple stoner KISS!!!! :D
Thanks. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shovelhandle
Didn't know that....
Would... you... happen... to know why you people call it like that?
Seems odd... understandable... :)
Thanks Shovel.... :thumbsup:
Yeah.. hydro electricity.. anyway I am getting a new light bulb with it and also here is a link that shows exactly what i'm getting..
http://www.canadianwholesalehydropon...ls=1&catpage=3
if it doesn't take you to the page then type in HPS light kit in the search box and check out the complete HPS light kits..
anyways it says it comes with the following:
High Pressure Sodium 1000 W light kit comes complete with enclosed ballast in ballast box, White Batwing reflector or 4 foot parabolic, and 1000 W HPS bulb. This kit is complete and ready to plug in.
This light kit emits 140,000 Lumens and is run off 120 V.
and about me keeping it a secret from him.. he is growing too haha so.. yeah they're all trust I blaze there all the time.. anyways what do you guys think now? I'm gonna need to do some reading on growing... any specific sites you guys recommend for indoor growing? should I buy seeds online? I'm kinda paranoid..
I would pay the extra for the new unit just incase there is a problem with the rig. Like it was said you would be paying for the privacy factor as well.
Don't ship it to your grow address either.
Good luck it sounds like you need to spend a lot of time learning if you are going to be successful.
see that a little bit of looking ang you got a 1kw set-up for about $260 just like i said. not bad i was only 2 dollars and change off if you look at my previous post!