Need Quick Advice "Lighting"

We finally had plants to break surface and want to put them under light a.s.a.p.... and needed to know if this is the time to place them under the 400 watt m/h..
WE ONLY have a 400 watt m/h light system and needed to know how high to place the light above the plants to get them rolling..and how high to keep th elight off them as they grow..and at what point should we place the cuble in the hydrosystem as of now the cubes are sitting in a tub in a heated room???
Hopefully tomorrow we can get pic's of plants and start a grow log here if it is okay and get some "PRO" advice as we go as this is our first grow and all we learned is from here and hope to continue getting help here with our first grow???????
We now have 12 plants growing and hope at least half will be females??
ANY questions please ask....

Jamie

Jaime,

This would be considered a bad question I believe and no one will most likely answer. I know this becuase I asked bad questions too and I didnt get an answer. Best thing to do is eduacate your self with basic info. I provided a link from Esoteric it teaches you the basics and applies to all forms of hydro. Im new aswell and I thought id try to help.

http://www.1-hydroponics.co.uk/video...agation-p1.htm

Some poupular video you can watch too if you dont like reading.

Mr. Green "I Grow Chronic"
J.Cervantes.Ultimate.Grow
Ready Set Grow
Stoned free
Top Quality Growing

And there are atleast 30 Ebooks out there too..

You can find all these videos for sale at Hightimes.com.. Or if you know what your doing you can download them all for free via Torrents. If you send me your email address in a PM I will send you Ebooks if you like.

Hope I helped

Start at about 2 feet. put your hand at top of plants...If it is not hot, then that height will work. I have a 400w MH about 2 feet above my white widow seedlings...peace

There are plenty of threads about this if you look.

[quote=Inspector420]Jaime,

This would be considered a bad question I believe and no one will most likely answer. I know this becuase I asked bad questions too and I didnt get an answer. Best thing to do is eduacate your self with basic info. I provided a link from Esoteric it teaches you the basics and applies to all forms of hydro. Im new aswell and I thought id try to help.

http://www.1-hydroponics.co.uk/video...agation-p1.htm

Some poupular video you can watch too if you dont like reading.

Mr. Green "I Grow Chronic"
J.Cervantes.Ultimate.Grow

But; We do not like the fact that you keep referring people offsite. This is the 2nd or 3rd thread I found your link in...Please stop. The info you are posting is available onsite if you just look for it. When I started way back when...All I did was read here at Cdot, and now I kikazz in my techniques.

appreciate your cooperation. peace latewood

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Originally Posted by Inspector420

Jaime,

This would be considered a bad question I believe and no one will most likely answer. I know this becuase I asked bad questions too and I didnt get an answer. Best thing to do is eduacate your self with basic info. I provided a link from Esoteric it teaches you the basics and applies to all forms of hydro. Im new aswell and I thought id try to help.

http://www.1-hydroponics.co.uk/video...agation-p1.htm

Some poupular video you can watch too if you dont like reading.

Mr. Green "I Grow Chronic"
J.Cervantes.Ultimate.Grow

But; We do not like the fact that you keep referring people offsite. This is the 2nd or 3rd thread I found your link in...Please stop. The info you are posting is available onsite if you just look for it. When I started way back when...All I did was read here at Cdot, and now I kikazz in my techniques.

appreciate your cooperation. peace latewood

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Sir its a video link there are no forums there. If someone needs help I try my best to help. And if its a serious issue plz send me a private message next time. Thx

didnt mean to sound rude BTW.. Also the only post faq i found doesnt say anything about this situation :S

Thats not my link either I dont even know nothing about growing yet. I work for no one lol... I wont post a link anymore I guess...

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Originally Posted by Inspector420

didnt mean to sound rude BTW.. Also the only post faq i found doesnt say anything about this situation :S

Thats not my link either I dont even know nothing about growing yet. I work for no one lol... I wont post a link anymore I guess...

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Alright, 1st I didn't say you worked for someone, I just saw you directing people offsite. We don't pm members when advising them...because for future reference, everyone benefits from the information. Besides, You don't have pm priveleges. peace

Video links are cool...I just hope you get my point:smokin:

WOW things seem to be going great and got plants showing and all and light lit up and now want to post pic's to get advice along the way as we grow,, PLEASE take a easy on us as this is our first grow and we are just two lonely blond chicks with too much time on our hands and wanna do something different and be good at it ,, so if anyone can help us post pic's here we can guess you say start a grow log and let u pro;s tell us how to do it along the highway as we go.......down the M.J. Trail...............

Thanks........

Hey wildchick start a grow journal and slap some pics up :D

Goodluck

WE WANT TO ,, BUT NEED TO BE TOLD HOW TO POST PIC'S,, as we have some now to post................someone help??? with picture posting.///

Jamie

hey wildchick,
if the pics are on your computor when u reply to a thread just go to the manage attachments button in the additional options and upload them.
hope this helps
blondie

When you go to the manage attachments section it will walk you threw the steps. It will ask you if it is a JPG, AS-- or what ever and then it will ask you if the picks are on a websight which you can enter the URL, or ask if they are on your computer. You would then brows your folders untill you find the pictures and click attach and presto. You can up load up to 5 at a time. That should get you on your way.
Adieu

Let me take it a step further :)

When you post or reply to a message at the bottom there is a button called "manage attachments" ... click that. Then chose "browse" which means on your computer. Point it to the location of the pic, and click "open". I think thats it...

just trying to help :cool:

Well I'll throw in my $.02.
I love my 400 mh, but I usually wait a bit to use it. I use floros to start off with, when they emerge, and keep them on floros till the first up potting, a week to 10 days. I plan on 3 upots to flower. If I'm in a hurry, after the uppotting, I get out the 400, about 18" or so away, as someone else stated using the back of your hand as a comfort buffer, if it burns you it will burn them.
Watering/feeding, I water/feed once form the top down, once just filling the saucers letting it wick up, at flower I do a whole pot dunk in a bucket of water/food.
I try to catch them before they wilt, but usually judging the need for water/food, by the weight of the pot. Hold it dry and remember it's weight...water/feed it, hold it agin and remember it's wet weight. As it gets lighter, see where they wilt a touch, and that gives you some parameters when to wet when to not. IMHO, less wet is better.
Feeding, some feed every time they water, I use PBP, @ 3/4 strength and feed at every watering. I also think plant strain will be different, but so far the 18 strains I've grown, show you real fast if they like to gorge, or prefer lite feedings, just watch her leaf.
If you leaf tips get a burnt look, your to hot, back off a touch. If she is paled out some and not over watered, touch up on the Nitrogen.
Sometimes in the path of a fan, will make leaves look leathery, so will over feeding, point your fans at a wall or straight up, and see if it helps the way the leaf looks.
Last point for a new grower, dont love them to death... it's a weed, she'll grow almost any damn place and under many conditions, but what I see most is new folk watering every 15 minutes, spraying, adding this suppliments or that one. It's all personal preference but for my gardens, simplisity rules.
Good luck, and feel free to ask anything, if I know I will say so, if I dont ...I dont!

Well just to get us started we planted 12 bag seeds in 12 rockwool cubes after a 24 hr peroid of leaving cubes in ph balanced water. Several days later we now have 9 up and growing strong.
We are using a 400 watt m/h light right now for Veg. stage and will go to 400 watt h.p.s. for bloom stage. We will be using the G.H. 3 part nutrient food for feeding and will soon place the plants in our home-made hyro tubs. We got a very good p/h meter and have ph down and using baking soda for p.h. up and it seems to work great.
My one question is how long should we wait till we place them in hydro tubs for growing as the roots are not out of cubes yet???
It also seems that the air pump and stones we got does not seem to shoot up the water to the net pots and was wondering what we could do , to fix that problem as the roots are not yet breaking through the cubes?? We got a 30 gallon pump and using in 10 gallon tub???
We are also in progress today of mounting our light better as time ran out and we had to get it lit for the grow.
Here are some pic's of grow so far and hope we can get advice if you all seem we need it and when to we start to feed them???

Peace...

Jamie & Stacy

when the roots start to grow out of the rockwool cubes...place them in netpots backfilled with hydroton, and you will be set.

Also, before you post attachments edit the size to 1mb or smaller...I like 640x640 to 640x480. they load faster and fit the window perfectly...If you load to big of a pik...It will take forever to load, especially if you have dial-up. peace

Thanks alot "Latewood" we hope to get alot of help from you all on this grow and we will keep this log going for others to use and read when they need help in getting started. Tomorrow or Tuesday we will take pic's of all supplies and set up for any advice or any other help u all can throw our way.

Stacy & Jamie

wtf is "potassium acid"????? you/they mean KNO3 - that's potassium nitrate - that vid on the light selling page is .... hmmmm, dodgy.

Sorry if I'm out of order Inspector420 - I use CFLs anyway.

Latewood will always be my first choice for advice.

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I wouldnt even think of useing the HID for awhile. Use some floros from walmart, shoplights for awhile.

The pump and the res size are not really related, 30 GPH (gallons per hour). It is a water pump you are talking about chick?

looking good.

Well we finally got the plants placed in tubs and got light fixed from ceiling and got everything running we hope. In these pic's the plants are about 1 1/2 weeks old and roots was starting to pierce the bottom of rockwool and we decided to place them in tubs NOW.. Do you all think light is far enough away from them????
If you see anything we can do different or any problems u see PLEASE tell us as this is our FIRST grow and wanna do it right..for two girls at least??? LOL.

Stacy

When you put your plants in the "Hydroton Rocks" do you place some rocks on bottom of net pot or do you put the Plant in rockwool on the bottom of the net pot and place rocks around the plant and rockwool???

PLEASE HELP.....


Jamie & Staci:dance: :dance: :D

Anyway you want, but I usually put a layer of rocks, but you don't have to...experiment

Got looking at them today and noticed yellowing on several of them. what could be wrong, need to fix it before we add Food to them?? Also we are using a 400 m/h light right now and was told we would be better off using the h.p.s. light all the way through the grow from this point??? WE DO NOT HAVE any other lights to use.. hopefully next time we can use the other type to veg. with..

Stacy & Jamie

p.s. we have them under 24-7 light right now for veg. should we take it down or leave it at this. ?????????????????
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP US .....

Did we fart or something??? Please advise us on this above questions if possible as we want to go to next level...

1st...quit worrying about the light. That light is great for 1st timers. I have a 400w MH on my youngun's...As long as it is not too close. With a 400w...You don't have to be right on top of them...
Just think???what did people do a few years ago before cfl's? they used MH or fluoro tubes.
The whole deal about the light MH or hps -vs- fluoro for seedlings.
Fluoros allow the seedlings to grow more roots before growing up, because the light isn't intense. Anyway. forget about what everyone says, and grow a grow.

They are too young for nutes. Let them root good 1st and get 4-5 alternating nodes. All the young ones yellow a bit...Do you have the water level just below the bottom of netpot? You do not want the water level up into the pot...hope this helps...peace L

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LATEWOOD YOU THE MAN


Thanks for the advice , it is just we two crazy chicks want to do it right and not mess up and have some good smoke without the crazy cost. We r now going out to get that book tonight and read it, guess it will help in hydro grow too.... will post more pic's as we see fit to allow a grow log for another beginner to read down the line,, glad you told us to wait on Food as we was going to do it tonight as we have roots coming through the pots now, but not all of them and they have not hit the water line yet, so we will wait another several days and once they hit the water , will hit them with food...

Thanks,

Jamie