Ugly People

In your opinion, what makes a person ugly? I mean if a person does all kinds of messed up shit..maybe even break the law, but is nice and goes out of the way to help other people...does that make that person bad or ugly?

A friend of mine had a messed up childhood and never felt he belonged anywhere. He did a lot drugs and hurt himself (and many people around him has hurt him) more than he deserves to. He has a lot of love in him but it's buried deep within him. He would never hurt anyone and is the most caring, thoughtful and helpful guy. He feels so down and thinks that the world see him as an ugly person.

So I'd like to know...how would you view someone who does messed up shit? What are some of the examples of things that people do that makes you want to turn your back on them?

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Originally Posted by Cheery Cherry

A friend of mine had a messed up childhood and never felt he belonged anywhere. He did a lot drugs and hurt himself (and many people around him has hurt him) more than he deserves to. He has a lot of love in him but it's buried deep within him. He would never hurt anyone and is the most caring, thoughtful and helpful guy. He feels so down and thinks that the world see him as an ugly person.

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Me and your friend have a lot in common, be he has one more friend than I do.

I don't judge people simply by how they treat me. I judge them by how they treat other people as well. You, being a female, should be aware that just because a man is nice to you doesn't mean he is a nice man. It just means he's horny.

But I don't know your friend, so I can not say anything specifically about him.

So not physically ugly, but rather your opinion of that person is "tainted" or changed because of something they did? Am I close?

I have a friend that was kind of wierd like that. Back in high school, a lot of our friends started getting heavy into blow, and if she even caught word that one of her close friends was doing it, ALL ties were cut off. She just had this nasty connotation with it, and I guess I get it to a point, but I saw her cut off ties with some of her good friends. I just think it's a little silly to do something like that, because blow doesn't really define who you are. Maybe that's just me. But yeah, that's me story =)

I personally don't care as long as they're respectful to me and so on.

And everyone is beautiful. Some people can't seeeeee that. ~

I think someone base someone who is ugly or not on how they treat me and others around me.
I tend to rip all the fluffy fakeness fronts and see the person for who they really are. I decide then wether someone is ugly or not. I'm not a based on looks kind of girl. Not really. :p
But I don't think someone who hurts themselves and everyone around them should be called ugly. Its probably not their fault but I might be turning the other cheek because I feel bad for them because of what they've been through like your friend.

I dont think your friend is ugly at the least but thats just me.

CityBoy...I don't think he wants to get into my pants. Or at least that's not the message I get. We have known each other for a while...he used to date my best friend.

Yes, I meant ugly on the inside. I see other people treating him differently once they learn how messed up he is and he has a difficult time dealing with that. I just want to understand why people are like this.

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Originally Posted by Cheery Cherry

CityBoy...I don't think he wants to get into my pants. Or at least that's not the message I get. We have known each other for a while...he used to date my best friend.

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We're talking about a male here. Of course he wants to get into your pants. So do I, and I've never even met or seen you. lmao

i think he is trying to play the "feel sorry for me' then i can bang you game. You wouldn't be the first to fall for it hehe just give him some lovin, that will help his self esteem bigtime. who cares what he did in the past as long as he can see a brighter future. oh well thats just my take on it. maybe he really feels sorry for himself and doesnt want to get in your pants. but then again he may just be trying to explore his emotions and get in your pants hmmm hard to tell.

ugly refers to appearance for me

Ha ha, you guys are sooo bad!!!! But I guess that's what attracts women. ;)

some men can b dawgs

Past experiences dont matter one bit with me. I only think of someone as 'ugly' if they backstab me, cheat on me or use me. Ill always give them one chance if they do, just incase its a mistake on either of our parts, but after that I dont want to know them anymore.

Example - an, until recently, good friend of mine stayed at my place because he said he had been kicked out for wanting to be a woman. He nicked my booze, fags and weed, and even though I asked him not to, he smoked in my room 90% of the time instead of in the kitchen, where the rest of us smoke. It was only until later in the week that I found out that he had not been kicked out, but his mum had said to him that she doesnt want to see him dressed up as a girl. Fair enough, any parent would be like that because its a major shock. Later on in the week he gave me a bit of bud. I smoked most of it, then saved the rest for the next day. In the morning I open up my stash tin and its mysteriously disappeared. I walk upstairs, and Ben is sitting in my room, bong next to him and my room smelling of weed. I confront him about it and he denied taking it. So I kick him out.
The other day on halloween we met up, and he got pissed. He walked back to mine while I was hanging with another mate, and he asks me if he can have one of my diazepam (which I had to near enough beg to get). I say no, and he carries on asking. In the end I said ask my mum. He comes back an later, saying 'yo Swizz those tablets are fucking awesome!'. Turns out he took one anyway. And he still owes me a tenner. So for that I kept a GTA guide which costs £11 as payment and Ive told him I dont want anything to do with him no more.

Fool me once, shame on you... but you wont get a chance to fool me twice.

Well, maybe this is harsh, but I am not into "pity fucks".

I think that if life kicks you down, and you alienate everyone who was there by your angry or depressed behavior, then too damn bad if you don't have a support system left. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and realize that you got yourself into this mess.

I don't have a lot of sympathy or empathy for people that can't realize the implications of their own actions and deal with them. If he is a victim of circumstance, then fine, but things that alienate friends without bringing new friends into the picture are obviously sketchy and not to be coddled.