I was just wondering if anyone knows what the possible time frame is for the signing of that California hemp bill. I think that if Arnold signs it, it'll be a huge, although oblique, step towards Marijuana legalization.
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I was just wondering if anyone knows what the possible time frame is for the signing of that California hemp bill. I think that if Arnold signs it, it'll be a huge, although oblique, step towards Marijuana legalization.
You mean there's a Hemp bill out in Cali? I gotta see that!:thumbsup:
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=71052 FOUND IT! :D Hope he signs the bill!:thumbsup:
Yeah, if he does it'll be an historically significant step towards real legalization and acceptance of the hemp plant. I'd like them to use the seeds for fuel and food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Bryan
This bill is enormously important. Cannabis won't be decriminalized in one broad swipe. It will take several small victories eating away at the edges. Pumping Iron showed Arnold toking on a number and recently he's been trying to distance himself from Bush, so hopefully there's a good chance he'll do the right thing.
WOOT! Managed to send an email to the governor! :D Hope he gets it!
I tried to get Nanci Pelosi to sign it, she sent me a letter saying it is a harmful drug and would just ad fire to the "war on drugs" she wasn't even smart enough to read the bill! http://www.aroundthecapitol.com/bills/AB_1147/Quote:
Originally Posted by phytokind
OF COURSE you realize there are OTHER uses! Here are some of the links I sent the governor to review! www.hemp4fuel.com http://www.suffolkhousing.org/pages/hempage.html http://www.ecofibre.com.au/otherprods.html http://www.hempmuseum.org I also told him he could reach two people out there if he needed to! Chris Conrad, www.chrisconrad.com and Jack Herer! www.jackherer.com Hope he reads the email,knowin' I'm from VIRGINIA!:D I told him that!Quote:
Originally Posted by phytokind
"I tried to get Nanci Pelosi to sign it, she sent me a letter saying it is a harmful drug and would just ad fire to the "war on drugs" she wasn't even smart enough to read the bill!"
Then you know what to do...vote her ass out of office.
You can FORGET about Nancy PEE-LOW-SEE! Check the politicians in California that SUPPORT or are NEUTRAL in the area and go from there. VoteHemp should be able to help you there. Lemme know somethin'.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by intangible child
He should sign it, hell they found a video of him smoking a joint when he was younger :p.
I swear, if I dont get the privilege to move to Canada I'm moving to Cali. Big things are happening over there :).
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamlet
arnold has 3 choices. he can sign it, veto it, or the bill can become a law without his signature. 2/3 ain't bad. i just hope ignorance doesn'twin this battle.
I'd rather him NOT sign it than veto it!:thumbsup:
I think that the bill signing may be getting close, Arnold is doing something with renewable energy today.
THAT'S GOOD NEWS! LET'S HOPE HE CONSIDERS THE BILL!Quote:
Originally Posted by phytokind
Hope all that 0.01% THC hemp production doesn't pollinate any of the good smokeable outdoor stuff grown in CA. But of course it will. I kinda hope my state doesn't legalize hemp-growing, as I don't really want shitloads of low-THC pollen floating around onto my ladies. Heh.
If the feds were smart enough to realize how badly hemp production would cut into the quality and quantity of outdoor-grown cannabis, they'd be all over this, and spreading legalized hemp across the country. Good thing they're idiots. ;)
I do not think it will end prohibition for recreational use but it will cause an avalanche of other states growing it as well. As an example, S. Dakota has had hemp legalized for a long time. The only reason they didn't start is because the feds, in particular the DEA, said they would prosecute the farmers under federal law. With property seizure laws that is no idle threat.
One effect that bringing back hemp will do is re-educate people about the real history of this plant and it's uses. Then maybe people will realize just how badly we got screwed when they prohibited it in the first place. Goin' to be some irate people when that happens.
Another is growing it for fuel. Legalizing it means that hemp will be grown for fuel, giving California's farmers a shot at a $60 billion a year market. Ethanol from hemp will compete very favorably against oil. There are advantages to car companies in not having to retool their entire plants, billions in savings to them. According to Popular Mechanics (May 2006) The Truth About Biofuels, they state that in order to replace oil with ethanol from corn we "would need to dedicate 675 million acres, or 71% or our nations farmland, to growing feedstock." Corn produces roughly 300 gallons per acre and needs pesticides and herbicides. Hemp produces over 1000 gallons (using 1890's technology) and needs no chemicals. This means that 71%/3.1= 22.9% of our farmland for hemp to achieve the same goal. That would mean stopping the farming "soil bank" and having that land dedicated instead to hemp.
We could all drive SUV's to our hearts content. If fuel prices rise we would just grow more. Many people believe this is why "marijuana" is illegal today.
I wouldn't be too concerned about the low THC hemp pollinating drug plants because the low THC stuff supposedly won't fare too well in the hot sunny California climate very well, as the resin protects Cannabis from the sun, so they may be forced to use hemp with a somewhat higher THC content. And think about it, the whole reason that the feds don't want hemp growing is that you can't really test all plants for THC content, so they just classify all hemp as drug plants. The great thing about this bill is that it defies the feds in this regard. And think about this, what if the drug plants cause the hemp plants to have higher THC? Then they'll just have to live with higher THC. The plant that does best in the California environment is the one that will survive, and that plant won't be the ultra low THC strain, at least not after a few seasons of hemp farming.
Well, has anyone heard anything about it being signed yet? Any news?
By the way phytokind, I'm not sure where you got the idea that low THC plants will grow better in Cali than standard hemp. They grow hemp in the middle east, so I fail to see why it wouldn't do well in California's sunshine. Do you have any information or studies to show for the info? Thanks.
We all know why you realy want it legalized>:^PQuote:
Originally Posted by phytokind
could someone send me a copy of the bill my e-Mail is [email protected].
Well he vetoed it, making Cali the only state that I know of where medical marijuana patients can grow their own marijuana but they won't let farmers grow non-drug hemp. Makes no sense at all.
Maybe we should ask him why he vetoed it...
Heres a link to his site...
http://gov.ca.gov
Yeah, that's pretty assinineQuote:
Originally Posted by phytokind
he couldve possibly been threatened with assasination if he passed it, or he was really baked when he read it and accidently grabbed the veto stamp by mistake lol:p
Arnold, Arnold, Arnold....you broke my heart, Arnold.
You've been my hero since I was 10. I bought my first set of barbells from the back of X-Men comics because you endorsed them. When the world needed Conan the Barbarian, only you could play him. You defeated the Pedator when all was lost. You were the Terminator and we cheered...then you became the Governator and we cheered louder. You were invincible! You could accomplish anything!
Now, in our time of need, you've become just another Republican. What's become of you Arnold? *sigh*
SHIT! WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?!:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by phytokind
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=73588 Found a link for you guys! This is bad news,and bad policy! We need to try next time to override the veto!
Perhaps Arnold won't be reelected this November.
nah ... the phony bastard will be re-elected in a landslide, he's running against a total idiot ... and yes, I can whip Arnold's ass ... :smokin:
that is a bummer i hope arnold gets a chance to read this thread
i am arnold......lol :p
Yea like when will money grow on trees?