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Ive read all the new reports about weed not causing any cancer even for a "heavy" user. I showed this to some people and preached it to them. But this is the part where I'm confused they all agreed that weed was safe and didnt cause cancer but they said the chemicals that you use to grow it hydroponically are what cause the cancer and bad effects and bad health.
I totally think all organic fertizlizers are safe in any growing conditions what are you're thoughts?
That's complete nonsense, because many consumables, such as tomatoes, beets, squashes, corn, and even tobacco are made hydropaunically, and I doubt that the popularity of hydropaunics would continue for much longer if it was carcinogic. Sounds like more propoganda bullshit.
weed has carcieogens so it can cause cancer,, but its not likely
i thought i heard something along the lines of - weed helps prevent the growth of tumors.
The smoke has carcinogens, just like breathing in too much smoke from a fire.
I have a theory that the weed's healing properties counteract that. ;)
As far as hydro goes... always flush your plant correctly, please. That's always a big disappointment when for some reason you can't go to your normal source... so you check out some other highs... only to find out that it has been flushed right and leaves you feeling like you just inhaled powdered glass.
Burning anything causes carcinogens... this is why vaporizing is the best medicinal method.
Yeh... I've heard something about thc cleaning tar off the lungs or whatever... i believe for the fact that once I started vaporizing... smoke is a lot harsher than it used to be.
Nothing beats a good spliff while paddling down a river, though... or hiking / camping, etc.
It has nothing to do with hydroponics. Whoever said that should think before they speak.
You see, the debate isn't whether or not weed contains carcinogens, it is known that the smoke from dried plant material contains carcinogens. The question is two-fold, in that it's more about what the smoke does to your lungs and if it's really the carcinogens that cause cancer (sounds stupid right? Lemme explain)
Tobacco smoke restricts the alveoli in the lungs, which both not only invites in tar and carcinogens but also creates a place for them to "stagnate" so to speak, which are the conditions needed for cancer to begin. However, cannabis smoke dilates the alveoli, which may or may not result in less tar being held in the lungs.
It has been believed by many different, albeit liberal, scientists out there that it may not be the carcinogens causing cancer, but instead the use of polonium-210 to grow tobacco. The FDA approves this radioactive element on food products, as it has been shown to cause no harm. However, no test has been done to prove the health risks of smoking plants treated with polonium-210. This may or may not be because it would slow down tobacco industries exponentially, seeing as how the tobacco plant can be a cumbersome (ooh, word of the day) plant to grow.
However, you can't let all of this get in the way of common sense. Of course putting the smoke from dry plant material in your body can't necessarily be good for you, and the safest way to smoke cannabis by far is through a vaporizer.
Wow, I can't believe I just typed all of that. Oh, and I'm not saying all of this is 100% accurate, either. If you were presenting this for someone, you might want to back up my facts first. Then again, you should always do that, even if you hear something on the news.
i have heard from multiple people and even one big time grower (i've seen his plants he has a full room for them)
they all agreed that the chemicals used in the water DOES increase the health risks. not to a very extreme extent, but it's not as healthy as natural growing.
please don't jump all over me, it's just what i've heard and i'm sharing it with you.
But see the thing is, you can grow organic hydroponics and do a chemical soil grow. Hydroponics doesn't necessarily mean you'll be using crazy chemicals, although an organic hydroponic is harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixel
Plus, no one but a scientist who does these experiments can really say whether it is more harmful or not, and even then many scientists are biased. I think we can all just assume that there's this degree of harm that you may be doing to your body.
Oh, and sorry if this seems like jumping on you. I'm just trying to follow up that thought process.
no thats exactly how i wanted someone to respond
i just meant i dont know for sure so don't respond by say "pixel youre a fucking idiot you dont know anything just shut the fuck up"
but i understand what youre sayin
I always thought that the carbon monoxide produce in ANY type of smoke was cancerous? No matter what is being burned.?
whereever you heard that from u got bullshited thats not true at all
Weed doesnt cause cancer.
Tobacco doesnt cause cancer.
It jus increases the chance of you developing cancer.
UCLA recently published a study that showed even heavy smokers don't have an increased risk of developing lung cancer. They think it has something to do with weed killing of dying lung cells.
Hey everyone just thought I would add a little question,
Many people say that smoking weed isnt bad because the weed counteracts the carcinogens, sooooo if you just use a vaporizer is that in fact really good for you?????
It depends, if you suffer from glioma, probably. If not, well you know...Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin Incredible
I read an article/study about the dangers of cannabis a couple of weeks ago. (Not a "pro-cannabis article" btw.) A study trying to find out how tobacco and cannabis was related to lung cancer said someting like this:
every subject tested started with a probability of 1 to get lung cancer. Users of tobacco had something like 32 times bigger chance to get lung cancer. Cannabis users (as long as the cannabis wasn't mixed with tobacco naturally) actually ended up with a 0,8 chance. So the conclusion was that smoking weed actually seemed to make it slightly less likely to get lung cancer then people that did neither tobacco or weed. Badly explained, but hopefully you get the point..
Other studies have shown similar results, at least none of the studies has shown that cannabis smokers are more likely to get lung cancer then people that didn't smoke anything at all.
i heard the same thing. the only brain cells marijuana kills are cells that can possibly give you a brain tumor, therefore it is actually beneficial for your brain to smoke marijuanaQuote:
Originally Posted by Juicyfruit
i think everyone needs to read up on this.
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6912
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6972
If done incorrectly (ie, not flushing), yeah the chems are probably gonna be carcinagenic. But, also, smoke of any kind is a bit carcinagenic ... as well as sunlight ... and air ... and movement ... and fuckin cosmic rays. HAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by lilweedprincess88