Cannabis psychosis.. Anybody here have it?

I think I may have it.. For those of you which dont know what Cannabis psychosis is, its a feeling of losing contact with relaity. For starters when I first started smokin I did a flippin S*** LOAD! and then took a break for sometime. During the break i had some nasty weed withdrawls.And the birth of psychosis. I personally thought I was done with weed and all its sources. So certain in fact that I sold my bowl and weed kid "Dr.Doom". As time progressed a friend of mine got hold of somre really good shit. So I said what the hell. And smoked a nice fatty. It went better than I have imagined.. :rasta: But the night after before I went to bed, I heard fireworks in my head a little bit. Could this be my mind playing tricks on me? Also I feel like I have cannabis psychosis. Like I was walking to my kitchen and I felt "Out of it". But to be completely honest with you guys the day I blazed I kinda prepared myself lol to say the least.(Got my self pumped up before blazin) and it went smooth. But when I start thinking about psychosis and all that it comes back. Do you think I am causing these affects Subconciously? I am starting to think I am. I kinda look at everything with a differnt tone after I smoke? Is that normal? I really need your guys opinion!


Thanks for everything ladies and gents and I aplogize for the "Wall of Text":)

Sorry to hear that mate. Do you know if its permenant or what? I WOULD REALLY like some info on this.. Thanks man

Anybody else on this? Please........

I was thinking that I might have it, it does get really bad tho, I would get really "out of it" as you said, shit like thinking I wasnt real, or the rest of the world wasnt, scary thoughts that severly challenged my concept of reality, and when I would toke it would get SOO much worst. I would even sometimes get the frames thing that you get on pot, when I was sober. I was and am still on Acutane, on the pamphlette they give you with it talks about a possible side effect being psychosis, so that might have been it too. But I definatly know where your coming from, I understand completely, it was a living hell. I think Im better now tho, but I still just try not to think about, because I dont want to go down that road again. Try and take like a month of EVERYTHING all forms of drugs, as many of em as you can, even shit like coffee, and tobacco, I mean EVERYTHING let your body detox.

I am just curious and asking for no other reason, but what are the ages of those experiencing this psychosis?

I know some kids that get really weird and spacy on it all the time after bongrips. Its an inebriant. Its going to have you thinking kinda screwey. A lot of the people I know that go through these things, though, are younger kids who aren't 100% sure where to put their foot down to center themselves in the world yet. They weren't sure about many things sober and had a lot to decide for themselves yet. This is no dig on kids. But, if you stil have things to figure out about yourself, getting ripped all of the time is going to delay it, unless you give yourself the willpower to think it through, in spite of it. That's kinda what i did as a kid. Got baked and walked around a lot, asking myself questions until I could answer them in a way that made them facts instead of questions to me. I went through a LOT of the spaced out am-I-even-here-is-this-a-memory-from-80-years-ago-have-I-gone-insane-am-i-wasting-my-time-being-alive-is-there-anything-that-isn't-a-waste-of-time-in-this-material-machine shit when I was a teenager. I credit pot for digging up some of the most severe intorspective thoughts, and I was unsure for a long time about things. I think it was part of being a kid. Nobody can answer some things about reality except for yourself. Figure out what it is to you and what you want out of it. Don't blame the drugs for boxing your mind into a dark room. You are sane enough to use the internet, you are sane enough to think yourself out of the box you've found.

Cannabis can precipitate the first episode of psychosis
If someone has a predisposition to a psychotic illness, such as schizophrenia, use of drugs such as cannabis may trigger the first episode in what can be a lifelong, disabling condition. There is increasing evidence that regular cannabis use precedes and causes higher rates of psychotic illness. Psychotic illnesses are characterised by:

* Delusions - for example the person believes they have special powers.
* Hallucinations - for example the person hears voices or sees things that aren't really there.
* Thought disorder - for example the person has difficulty organising their thoughts.

When people experience psychotic symptoms, they are unable to distinguish what is real. They lose contact with reality.
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/b...psychosis?open

Results On an individual level, cannabis use confers an overall twofold increase in the relative risk for later schizophrenia. At the population level, elimination of cannabis use would reduce the incidence of schizophrenia by approximately 8%, assuming a causal relationship. Cannabis use appears to be neither a sufficient nor a necessary cause for psychosis. It is a component cause, part of a complex constellation of factors leading to psychosis.

Conclusions Cases of psychotic disorder could be prevented by discouraging cannabis use among vulnerable youths. Research is needed to understand the mechanisms by which cannabis causes psychosis.
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/184/2/110

It should be noted from the outset that:

* Much of the evidence for cannabis-associated psychosis has been based on subjects who have used large doses of cannabis and/or used cannabis chronically

* A great deal of the data has been derived from small studies, some of which have contained inherent flaws

and

* The findings of some of the larger studies conducted over the last 20 years have varied considerably
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It is believed that cannabis use may cause a condition known as a drug-induced psychosis or cannabis psychosis which:

* Can last up to a few days

* Is often characterised by hallucinations, delusions, memory loss and confusion

* Usually results from prolonged or heavy cannabis use

and

* Responds well to treatment

However, in some cases, cannabis use may contribute to the development of a psychosis such as schizophrenia which:

* Constitutes a serious mental illness for the majority of people with the disorder

* Is characterised by hallucinations, delusions, social withdrawal, paranoia, self-neglect, thought withdrawal, and speech disorders like associative or incoherent speech

and

* Tends to respond less well to treatment than cannabis psychosis

Most of the research in this area has investigated cannabis in people with schizophrenia.

Does cannabis use cause psychosis?
* There are a number of risk factors which are believed to contribute to the development of a psychosis, one of which is believed to be cannabis use

* The peak age range during which people are more vulnerable to developing a psychosis (16-30 years of age) tends to be the same age range during which people tend to use cannabis

* A very large study of 50,465 Swedish army conscripts determined their cannabis use at age 18 and followed those individuals for the next 15 years. Recruits who had tried cannabis by age 18 had 2.4 times the risk of being diagnosed with schizophrenia in the following 15 years than those who had never used cannabis. The risk increased if the conscript used greater quantities of cannabis

However, of the conscripts who developed schizophrenia:

* Most had never used cannabis

and

* Only 7.7 per cent were heavy cannabis users

* Therefore, cannabis use is only one possible factor contributing to an increased risk of developing schizophrenia or other psychosis. This is especially true when one considers that most people who develop a psychosis have never used cannabis

* In addition, cannabis use at age 18 might be a consequence of emerging psychosis (that is, psychosis precedes cannabis use, not vice versa)
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/drugser...s/cannabis.htm

Cannabis: Too much, too young?

* 26 March 2005
* Graham Lawton
* Magazine issue 2492

It is known that taking a lot of cannabis over a short period can cause psychotic symptoms, but the long term effects are still hotly debated

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...mg18524921.300
(Don't waste your time on that link.)

Who is most at risk from cannabis use?

* People most at risk are those with a family history of psychotic illness or those who have already experienced a psychotic episode

* Thus, people with a family or a personal history of psychotic illness should avoid drugs like cannabis completely or at least attempt to minimise their use
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/drugser...s/cannabis.htm
(same as above)

My edit time expired, but my addition was going to be that the worst thing that I think you can do about this is to just leave it unanswered indefinately.

I or anyone else can tell you anything, but when it comes to there feeling like something wrong with your head and how its working, you really have to straighten the bend yourself. Its part of becoming yourself, and you will always be a work in progress as these things pop up. I believe that our outlook and our resolve in what we believe in and see is all reality will ever be. It can't be something other than what you perceive it to be, because you are your own window, in this case. Look out and connect with something that makes you feel normal again. and just keep adding blocks onto it. In no time you'll be a master human being again.

dude you need to mellow out, sorta sounds like your physcologically making up the fealing of becoming physcotic in your head
your doing more harm then good worrying about it like that
i personally dont believe that cannabis causes physcosis and that maybe people who are physcotic are drawn to cannabis as a way of coping
also there are no "physical" withdrawl symptoms from cannabis

I agree.

You can think yourself into anything, positive and negative.

ok man i think you just need to calm down and breath alittle and it will be ok sounds to me like you might be sencitive to cannabis -congrats =-} i smoke 24/7 my bro dosent smoke often and it's because he cant handle it he freaks the fuck out cant breath hears shit maybe smoke some lower grade stuff ??
just an idea good luck

LOL you guys are flippin beast... Thanks alot! I truely and honestly mean it. Also to the guy which said you can will yourself into anything (positive/negative) I think that is completely true.:thumbsup: I am starting to learn this myself.. And as for the guy which said I am sensitive to weed, you are probably on the dot on that as well. When I first started toking i would usually go to my friends place and smoke a MAD amount.. I think it was Mid-Green, pretty sure its that:smokin:. But when I went straight for a couple months my friends shit was snow white and some Arabic shit mixed together in a dime. (Good stuff, strong as balls) Maybe if I get my tolerance up this wont be a problem?


Thanks again guys and keep the posts comin..



~Happy Tokin:pimp:

cannabis is actually a hallucinogen
you could just be more sensetive to the effects than other people
your ok
it will give you a different outlook on life when you are high
thats why most people use it
you could be pissed off at something and then burn one and be happy and think to yourself "why the hell was I mad in the first place?" :-)

Yea, I think I am more sensitive than ALOT more other people..

love weed

This is kind of off topic, but with flashbacks, and also when ure saying about ure psychosis, what is it? You feel unreal, you see some movement in the periphery of ure vision, and you can sometimes see shit out of the corner of ure eyes, then floaters and those little lines of static that you see when you look toward a clear sky, or white wall, is it this what causes you so much panic?

There is no such thing as reality.

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This is kind of off topic, but with flashbacks, and also when ure saying about ure psychosis, what is it? You feel unreal, you see some movement in the periphery of ure vision, and you can sometimes see shit out of the corner of ure eyes, then floaters and those little lines of static that you see when you look toward a clear sky, or white wall, is it this what causes you so much panic?

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You're definition of psychosis is the post above.

Just not used to it..^ Its not that Jimmycrackcorn, its really hard to explain. You know the thread which you responded too, I think BestTonicIsChronic started it. It was labeled "psychosis?", yea he pretty much NAILS what I am currently going through when I am off weed.Also Jimmycrackcorn, your explaination was flippin perfecto man! I straight up saved that, I can tell you spent time on that explaination man.. Also I did detox for the "3 month period" and I still felt the effects during then.. Personally guys adding all of your posts together I am starting to see A TINY BIT of whats going on here. Maybe I am wrong, but possibly like another poster has said. A higher sense of being or something like that and yes I am very spirtual runs in the family somewhat ;0}.

Im with you there Captian Hanks (lol) that ya the more I thought about it, the worse it got, like following the white rabbit further down the hole, shit just got weirder the more I thought about it, but now Im kinda or at least trying to block thoughts like that and shits been goin good.

O BTW, 4 those wonderin Im 16 yrs old. Also Ive done E, and salvia, both for the first time in the same weekend, and all the shit seemed to stem from that time.

Yea I am 17.. I dont get the Captain Hanks reference, lol I am slow on the uptake at times..

LOL, guess so. Captain Hanks is twelve posts above you.

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There is an old saying by the philosopher Socrates...

"Our greatest blessings come to us by way of madness, provided the madness is given us by divine gift."

Do not automatically think that psychosis is a BAD thing really. In order to spiritually grow, you will have to go through altered states of conciousness, even if it may seem bad. Sometimes when I am high, I may get paranoid. I will think of things like the government is watching me and stuff, which they probably are. I don't know.

Just don't judge mental illnesses as a bad thing. In truth, reality is a big dream. But what is truth, as Jesus supposedly asked Pilate.

People who hear voices and see things that aren't there can be classified into two groups. The first group are people who cannot cope with these voices and are called mentally ill. The second group are people who can cope with the voices and are called psychic.

very intresting post there buddy..^(Not trying to sound sarcastic) Maybe I am spirtually growing..

That site didnt help at all man.. Sorry.

this is so crazy... ive got a nutz-o story about my friend that i think had this now that i am reading up on it. He started smokin weed like 3 years prior to this event and then one day it just hit him. Like he was trippin hard core.. he was over at a friends house getting high, and just as he was going home, his friends mom showed him to the door and he asked her " Can you see that?," "theyre everywhere" and his friends mom asked "who?" you know like what the hell is this kid talkin about. his illusions and state of being totally went out of wack, telling nurses in the hospital he had a knife, and all this crazy shit.. he was then sent to a bigger hosipital in a bigger city for tests and shit, and when he came back he was the same old dude.. But when he tripped like that its like he was a totally different person.. now a year later hes still hittin the doobs and hes fine...ive read somewhere smoking weed causes schizophrenia in some people.. so i dunno just thought id share on the topic Peace!

Shit dude... Yea I think i know what caused it so hardcore and shit.. I smoked SO MUCH and then suddenly STOPPED! Cold turkey man for a couple months and I am now hitten it again and its really not that bad.. I can kinda feel it sometimes but I do what people here suggest, I just take a breather and chill out... But anyways, sorry to hear that about your friend. To be honest "schizophrenia" to me means someone which is talking to themseleves and THEY are controlling that, but they believe its something else... I dont know thats my opinion.:dance: Sometimes I think I have this but I "take a breather" and say "Hey I am doing this, I need to chill the F**** out" lol more or less.


Thanks for your post ladies and gents :thumbsup:

man sorry to hear that shit happenin to you but i can tell you now it wont last long, especially since its just weed. man i had amphetamines psychosis once back in summer before senior year of hs after a 4 day long speedrun and weeks of heavy abuse, little sleep and barely any food. for weeks i had been talking to myself and i was convinced that somebody (didnt even know who) was out to get me. finally it culminated at the end of this speed run, and i basically went insane, smashed shit all over my room, created numerous marks in the wall from punching, and then after dowsing myself in alcohol, xanax and valium finally fell asleep, woke up on the floor 19 hours later, still exhausted.

Woooo dude thats pretty crazy..^ Can I ask what "amphetamines psychosis" is? I have been feeling it lately as of yet, I am also REALLY worried about becoming a skitz... But I also heard someone saying how weed was antipsychotic.. I dont know maybe I am thinkin about this too much and I am the cause of this. (I know I said this before lol)

o is that what that is? i think i've given myself depersonalization too....what fun

whats that exactly?

In psychology (and also psychiatry), depersonalization (or derealization) is the experience of feelings of loss of a sense of reality. A sufferer feels that he or she has changed and the world has become less real -- it is vague, dreamlike, or lacking in significance. The DSM-IV categorizes depersonalization disorder as a form of dissociative disorder, though depersonalization proper is more often characteristic of the traumatic origin of other conditions.

Sufferers of depersonalization feel divorced from both the world and from their own identity and physicality. Often times the person who has experienced depersonalization claims that life "feels like a movie, things seem unreal, or hazy." [citation needed] Also a recognition of self breaks down (hence the name). When a person suffers from the disorder (or the symptoms associated with it) he or she finds that when looking in the mirror, his or her face is not familiar, though logically he or she is completely aware of his or her identity.

The feeling is said to be like being a ghost. No matter how hard the person tries, he/she cannot feel like they are genuinely interacting with the world and can't seem to perceive themselves as being normal. They feel like they are trapped between the real world and death. While one is struggling so hard to feel everything as normal again, there is a part of oneself which begs to just give up and stop the struggling. Simply put, it is an alteration in the perception or experience of oneself, so that the self is felt to be unreal; the person feels detached from the reality or their own body or mental processes

If you're snorting any coke, smoking any crack/tobacco, having sex, or, eating brownies, then that might be an underlying cause to your psychosis.

I defintlely don't do crack or coke....How would having sex or eating browines cause psychosis? Also maphigirl, depersonalization sounds like the "user" is controling this. Is this true?

I think all Cannabis Psychosis is, is when you feel like you havent really come back from being stoned. Like Ive had that were I actually have to ask myself if Im still high. Like when you start getting "frames" while your sober it can REALLY mess you up.

I have never gotten that while sober.. And this is after I smoke like a couple weeks later or days..The THC doesn't really leave your system intill a month right? Well, maybe this is the reason for this. Maybe my body is getting clean? I dont know..

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How would having sex or eating browines cause psychosis?

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You've heard of people catching their spouses cheating and then going crazy, right? Well, the same thing can happen if you steal my brownies. :smokin:

lmao, i gotcha..

i dont really kno what you mean by the user controlling it....it's just the way you feel...detached from reality, like nothing is real...

I mean, can you kinda sike your brain out on that?.. Like doing the opposite?.. Kinda hard to explain, do you know what I mean though? Like its all in the persons head.

When you smoke, you're activating all the Cannabinoid Receptors from your nervous system to your skin. That will make people freak out and it is all in their head.

Did you hear that one teacher, of that high school (where the kids spiked the brownies w/Herb), say, "I thought I was going to die."

And you well-know that was all in his head.

Did you just make that story up or whats up?^^