Cannabis psychosis.. Anybody here have it?

[Mr.N]

I think I may have it.. For those of you which dont know what Cannabis psychosis is, its a feeling of losing contact with relaity. For starters when I first started smokin I did a flippin S*** LOAD! and then took a break for sometime. During the break i had some nasty weed withdrawls.And the birth of psychosis. I personally thought I was done with weed and all its sources. So certain in fact that I sold my bowl and weed kid "Dr.Doom". As time progressed a friend of mine got hold of somre really good shit. So I said what the hell. And smoked a nice fatty. It went better than I have imagined.. :rasta: But the night after before I went to bed, I heard fireworks in my head a little bit. Could this be my mind playing tricks on me? Also I feel like I have cannabis psychosis. Like I was walking to my kitchen and I felt "Out of it". But to be completely honest with you guys the day I blazed I kinda prepared myself lol to say the least.(Got my self pumped up before blazin) and it went smooth. But when I start thinking about psychosis and all that it comes back. Do you think I am causing these affects Subconciously? I am starting to think I am. I kinda look at everything with a differnt tone after I smoke? Is that normal? I really need your guys opinion!


Thanks for everything ladies and gents and I aplogize for the "Wall of Text"

Mr.N Reviewed by Mr.N on 05-29-2006. Cannabis psychosis.. Anybody here have it? I think I may have it.. For those of you which dont know what Cannabis psychosis is, its a feeling of losing contact with relaity. For starters when I first started smokin I did a flippin S*** LOAD! and then took a break for sometime. During the break i had some nasty weed withdrawls.And the birth of psychosis. I personally thought I was done with weed and all its sources. So certain in fact that I sold my bowl and weed kid "Dr.Doom". As time progressed a friend of mine got hold of somre Rating: 5

[Mr.N]

Sorry to hear that mate. Do you know if its permenant or what? I WOULD REALLY like some info on this.. Thanks man

[Mr.N]

Anybody else on this? Please........

[BestTonicIsChronic]

I was thinking that I might have it, it does get really bad tho, I would get really "out of it" as you said, shit like thinking I wasnt real, or the rest of the world wasnt, scary thoughts that severly challenged my concept of reality, and when I would toke it would get SOO much worst. I would even sometimes get the frames thing that you get on pot, when I was sober. I was and am still on Acutane, on the pamphlette they give you with it talks about a possible side effect being psychosis, so that might have been it too. But I definatly know where your coming from, I understand completely, it was a living hell. I think Im better now tho, but I still just try not to think about, because I dont want to go down that road again. Try and take like a month of EVERYTHING all forms of drugs, as many of em as you can, even shit like coffee, and tobacco, I mean EVERYTHING let your body detox.

[Stellar]

I am just curious and asking for no other reason, but what are the ages of those experiencing this psychosis?

I know some kids that get really weird and spacy on it all the time after bongrips. Its an inebriant. Its going to have you thinking kinda screwey. A lot of the people I know that go through these things, though, are younger kids who aren't 100% sure where to put their foot down to center themselves in the world yet. They weren't sure about many things sober and had a lot to decide for themselves yet. This is no dig on kids. But, if you stil have things to figure out about yourself, getting ripped all of the time is going to delay it, unless you give yourself the willpower to think it through, in spite of it. That's kinda what i did as a kid. Got baked and walked around a lot, asking myself questions until I could answer them in a way that made them facts instead of questions to me. I went through a LOT of the spaced out am-I-even-here-is-this-a-memory-from-80-years-ago-have-I-gone-insane-am-i-wasting-my-time-being-alive-is-there-anything-that-isn't-a-waste-of-time-in-this-material-machine shit when I was a teenager. I credit pot for digging up some of the most severe intorspective thoughts, and I was unsure for a long time about things. I think it was part of being a kid. Nobody can answer some things about reality except for yourself. Figure out what it is to you and what you want out of it. Don't blame the drugs for boxing your mind into a dark room. You are sane enough to use the internet, you are sane enough to think yourself out of the box you've found.

[beachguy in thongs]

Cannabis can precipitate the first episode of psychosis
If someone has a predisposition to a psychotic illness, such as schizophrenia, use of drugs such as cannabis may trigger the first episode in what can be a lifelong, disabling condition. There is increasing evidence that regular cannabis use precedes and causes higher rates of psychotic illness. Psychotic illnesses are characterised by:

* Delusions - for example the person believes they have special powers.
* Hallucinations - for example the person hears voices or sees things that aren't really there.
* Thought disorder - for example the person has difficulty organising their thoughts.

When people experience psychotic symptoms, they are unable to distinguish what is real. They lose contact with reality.
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/b...psychosis?open

Results On an individual level, cannabis use confers an overall twofold increase in the relative risk for later schizophrenia. At the population level, elimination of cannabis use would reduce the incidence of schizophrenia by approximately 8%, assuming a causal relationship. Cannabis use appears to be neither a sufficient nor a necessary cause for psychosis. It is a component cause, part of a complex constellation of factors leading to psychosis.

Conclusions Cases of psychotic disorder could be prevented by discouraging cannabis use among vulnerable youths. Research is needed to understand the mechanisms by which cannabis causes psychosis.
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/184/2/110

It should be noted from the outset that:

* Much of the evidence for cannabis-associated psychosis has been based on subjects who have used large doses of cannabis and/or used cannabis chronically

* A great deal of the data has been derived from small studies, some of which have contained inherent flaws

and

* The findings of some of the larger studies conducted over the last 20 years have varied considerably
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It is believed that cannabis use may cause a condition known as a drug-induced psychosis or cannabis psychosis which:

* Can last up to a few days

* Is often characterised by hallucinations, delusions, memory loss and confusion

* Usually results from prolonged or heavy cannabis use

and

* Responds well to treatment

However, in some cases, cannabis use may contribute to the development of a psychosis such as schizophrenia which:

* Constitutes a serious mental illness for the majority of people with the disorder

* Is characterised by hallucinations, delusions, social withdrawal, paranoia, self-neglect, thought withdrawal, and speech disorders like associative or incoherent speech

and

* Tends to respond less well to treatment than cannabis psychosis

Most of the research in this area has investigated cannabis in people with schizophrenia.

Does cannabis use cause psychosis?
* There are a number of risk factors which are believed to contribute to the development of a psychosis, one of which is believed to be cannabis use

* The peak age range during which people are more vulnerable to developing a psychosis (16-30 years of age) tends to be the same age range during which people tend to use cannabis

* A very large study of 50,465 Swedish army conscripts determined their cannabis use at age 18 and followed those individuals for the next 15 years. Recruits who had tried cannabis by age 18 had 2.4 times the risk of being diagnosed with schizophrenia in the following 15 years than those who had never used cannabis. The risk increased if the conscript used greater quantities of cannabis

However, of the conscripts who developed schizophrenia:

* Most had never used cannabis

and

* Only 7.7 per cent were heavy cannabis users

* Therefore, cannabis use is only one possible factor contributing to an increased risk of developing schizophrenia or other psychosis. This is especially true when one considers that most people who develop a psychosis have never used cannabis

* In addition, cannabis use at age 18 might be a consequence of emerging psychosis (that is, psychosis precedes cannabis use, not vice versa)
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/drugser...s/cannabis.htm

Cannabis: Too much, too young?

* 26 March 2005
* Graham Lawton
* Magazine issue 2492

It is known that taking a lot of cannabis over a short period can cause psychotic symptoms, but the long term effects are still hotly debated

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...mg18524921.300
(Don't waste your time on that link.)

Who is most at risk from cannabis use?

* People most at risk are those with a family history of psychotic illness or those who have already experienced a psychotic episode

* Thus, people with a family or a personal history of psychotic illness should avoid drugs like cannabis completely or at least attempt to minimise their use
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/drugser...s/cannabis.htm
(same as above)

[Stellar]

My edit time expired, but my addition was going to be that the worst thing that I think you can do about this is to just leave it unanswered indefinately.

I or anyone else can tell you anything, but when it comes to there feeling like something wrong with your head and how its working, you really have to straighten the bend yourself. Its part of becoming yourself, and you will always be a work in progress as these things pop up. I believe that our outlook and our resolve in what we believe in and see is all reality will ever be. It can't be something other than what you perceive it to be, because you are your own window, in this case. Look out and connect with something that makes you feel normal again. and just keep adding blocks onto it. In no time you'll be a master human being again.

[Captain Hanks]

dude you need to mellow out, sorta sounds like your physcologically making up the fealing of becoming physcotic in your head
your doing more harm then good worrying about it like that
i personally dont believe that cannabis causes physcosis and that maybe people who are physcotic are drawn to cannabis as a way of coping
also there are no "physical" withdrawl symptoms from cannabis

[Stellar]

I agree.

You can think yourself into anything, positive and negative.

[smokesalot]

ok man i think you just need to calm down and breath alittle and it will be ok sounds to me like you might be sencitive to cannabis -congrats =-} i smoke 24/7 my bro dosent smoke often and it's because he cant handle it he freaks the fuck out cant breath hears shit maybe smoke some lower grade stuff ??
just an idea good luck