Fighter Jets intercept United Airlines Flight, No Drills to Confuse NORAD this time

Fighter Jets intercept United Airlines Flight
No Drills to Confuse NORAD this time
Associated Press | April 22 2006

Comment: No Presidential orders needed, the scrambling of fighter jets in this situation is automatic and has been for decades. So where were the F-16s on 9/11? Why were three airliners allowed to hit their targets despite being known to be hijacked?

Related: Wargames Were Cover For the Operational Execution of 9/11

A passenger who claimed to have a bomb aboard a United Airlines flight was subdued by passengers as the California-bound plane was diverted to Denver International Airport, airport officials said.

Two F-16 fighter jets from Buckley Air Force Base scrambled to escort the plane as it flew into Denver Friday, according to Lt. Commander Sean Kelly, a spokesman for NORAD.

"They followed to make sure nothing untoward was going to happen," he said.

Jose Manuel Pelayo-Ortega was arrested after the plane landed around 4:30 p.m., FBI spokeswoman Monique Kelso said.

Three Secret Service agents traveling between assignments who happened to be on the plane helped detain the passenger, said Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren.

After the A-320 Airbus landed, it taxied to a remote part of the airport where the passengers got off and were bused to the terminal.

None of the 138 passengers or six crew members was injured, airport spokesman Chuck Cannon said. The flight was headed to Sacramento, Calif., from Chicago.

Authorities searched the aircraft for explosives and re-screened luggage and passengers before they reboarded the plane, which took off for its original destination around 7:30 p.m., Kelso said.

just more evidence... drills or not.. on 9/11, with 4 planes going off-track.. at least one would be intercepted

It's a little different world and mindset now than it was pre-911. In the past it was always take me to Cuba or some shit like that. There was never a worry about some freaks doing an act of jihad.

^^ dude, American Airlines stopped all their planes on the ground, as did United Airlines (in the 9/11 Commission Report).... you cannot say that it was a different mentality pre-9/11... there are procedures and they were not followed...
think about how stupid this sounds: America, the only superpower, didn't send fighter jets to intercept KNOWN (in the commission report) 4 hijacked flights AND they knew all of them were EXTERMELY off course... i could see that happening in Madagascar... but nope, not the good 'ol USA.

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^^ dude, American Airlines stopped all their planes on the ground, as did United Airlines (in the 9/11 Commission Report).... you cannot say that it was a different mentality pre-9/11... there are procedures and they were not followed...
think about how stupid this sounds: America, the only superpower, didn't send fighter jets to intercept KNOWN (in the commission report) 4 hijacked flights AND they knew all of them were EXTERMELY off course... i could see that happening in Madagascar... but nope, not the good 'ol USA.

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I agree the ball was dropped at the time but it was also due to inflated ego's in my opinion. After all, who would have the balls, or be stupid enough, to do something like that to the U.S. in the states?
We learned!

Now this nation that I love
Has fallen under attack
A mighty sucker punch came flying in
From somewhere in the back
Soon as we could see clearly
Through our big black eye
Man, we lit up your world
Like the 4th of July

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

who would have the balls, or be stupid enough, to do something like that to the U.S. in the states?

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Hmm let me guess

^^ good guess

oh the things that are done
just to get the ball rolling
for a one gov't world

Just consider for a second...4 or 5 guys pull out boxcutters and relatively quickly get complete over the plane (lets just say this is the first plane). Now for the military to know there is a hijacked plane they need some sort of contact. Air traffic control would only know that they weren't in radio contact with a plane, they wouldn't know that it was hijacked, so how can the military know for sure whether this plane is hijacked or if it just lost radio contact. They wouldn't really be able to tell anything until the plane started on a different course, but even then they could have no clue what was going to happen and no real reason to have the planes shot down until the first one hit...even after the first one they still can't be sure more planes are going to be crashed so it takes until the second or third crash before real action is taken. And I think it was because I've always believed United 93 was shot down by fighters, not crashed into a field by some passengers who somehow made a conscious decision to kill themselves and everyone on board to prevent crashing into a populated area. Bush did not murder 3,000 people, and believe me I am not standing up for him cause I hate the fucker. My opinion anyone that stupid is not fit for the job...just watch him on TV he makes himself look like an idiot at every conference. But he is not a murdering evil bastard like that cocksucker Osama

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Originally Posted by Dr. VanNostrin

Just consider for a second...4 or 5 guys pull out boxcutters and relatively quickly get complete over the plane (lets just say this is the first plane). Now for the military to know there is a hijacked plane they need some sort of contact. Air traffic control would only know that they weren't in radio contact with a plane, they wouldn't know that it was hijacked, so how can the military know for sure whether this plane is hijacked or if it just lost radio contact. They wouldn't really be able to tell anything until the plane started on a different course, but even then they could have no clue what was going to happen and no real reason to have the planes shot down until the first one hit...even after the first one they still can't be sure more planes are going to be crashed so it takes until the second or third crash before real action is taken. And I think it was because I've always believed United 93 was shot down by fighters, not crashed into a field by some passengers who somehow made a conscious decision to kill themselves and everyone on board to prevent crashing into a populated area. Bush did not murder 3,000 people, and believe me I am not standing up for him cause I hate the fucker. My opinion anyone that stupid is not fit for the job...just watch him on TV he makes himself look like an idiot at every conference. But he is not a murdering evil bastard like that cocksucker Osama

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Looked at what happened to the flight according to the 9/11 Commission Report...
my findings:
1. when looking at the foot notes.. they couldnt confirm check-in for some of the hijackers... [WTF, it has to be recorded in the computer by the airlines.. that is bullshit]

2. At 8:51, the pilot had his last ROUTINE communication with the Air Traffic Control.
3. Between 8:51 and 8:54, the hijacking took place
4. At 8:54, the "aircraft deviated from its assigned course, turning south"
5. At 9:29, auto-pilot was turned off [???? how can you get off course ^^ while auto-pilot is on] at 7,000 feet in altitude, 38 miles we of the Pentagon [how is it at 7,000 feet right before auto-pilot is shut off if they're going cross country]
6. At 9:34, the aircraft was 5 miles away and did a 330 degree turn at 2200 feet in altitude.
7. At 9:37 it hit the Pentagon.

In the report it says, "Shortly before 9:10, suspecting that American 77 had been hijacked, American headquaters concluded that the 2nd aircraft to hit the WTC might have been Flight 77. After learning that United Airlines was missing a plane, American Airlines Headquaters extended the ground stop nationwide [no more planes can fly]

BUT LOOK AT THIS CONTRADICTORY FINDING BY THE COMMISSION IN THE FOOT NOTES!

and i quote, "There is NO evidence to indicate that the FAA recognized Flight 77 as a hijacking until it crashed into the Pentagon"

-so there is a ground stop nationwide b/c of flight 77 by American Airlines, yet the FAA has no idea that this is going on... BULLSHIT

isnt it convenient that the LAST ROUTINE COMMUNICATION B/W THE PILOT AND AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL WAS JUST SECONDS B4 IT WAS HIJACKED? GOOD THING THE HIJACKERS DIDN'T DO IT AT 9:49.

READ IT FOR YOURSELF: http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

In any other hijacked attempt, or even when planes fly over restriced air planes are sent out to look at them... fighter jets are used because they can see what is going on in the sky... they are fast enough and should have been spaced around the US to intercept any plane.

There were also reports of phone calls from all of the planes to people on land... either to 911, air traffic or family members... Flight 93 passengers have plenty of phone calls 'recorded'... by the way since when have they been able to record phone calls from cell phones, how do they know what they said?? when did they record it?? On the cell phone?? cause they used personal cell phones to call relatives... when did this get recorded?? --- but back to the phone calls having been placed, why were there not a single american fighter jet sent in the air... what if 20 planes were hijacked instead of just 4... why weren't they in the air to stop any more... how did they know 4 was it?? Why were there not planes next to every aircraft that wouldn't land??

BECAUSE BUSH KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN... HE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO SEE IT ON TV...

President Bush was promoting the passage of his education plan at Emma E. Booker Elementary School on the morning of September 11th.

Conspiracy theorists have questioned the President's behavior after being told that the nation was under attack.[100] They think it's likely that he would have been taken to safety at once, presuming that he too would be a possible target of a terrorist attack. That he remained in the classroom for another 7-9 minutes is seen as an indication that his security staff was well aware of what was happening, and was therefore not worried.
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George Bush saw the first plane hit?

George Bush was asked a question by a child at a town hall meeting:

QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?

BUSH: Well... (APPLAUSE)

Thank you, Jordan (ph).

Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."

But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."

Some have pointed out that George Bush could not have seen the first plane hit the tower live on television, as it was a surprise attack and no television station was covering that area when the first plane hit. The videotape of the attack was not presented to the general public until several hours after the attack. This quote has made some suggest that George Bush has access to footage the general public does not, especially about the September 11th attacks.[101], [102]. Others have suggested that the President's statement was, "a lie fabricated to justify his unwillingness to deal with the magnitude of the disaster that had stricken all Americans on September 11, 2001."[10

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

Some people were neglectful, including the president, before and during Tuesday September 11, that doesn't mean out government planned to murder 3,000 people so they could go to war with Iraq, and lose all respect that our allies had for us. That's one of the main reasons I don't think our government planned this shit because we are basically on our own now I mean nobody is going to lend us a hand in the future and I really don't see the U.S. government counting on being hated by everyone including their own citizens. I still see no reason they would do all of this in the first place, Massoui or however you spell it has made it very clear to me that Muslim extremists absolutely hate democracy and if you have heard paraphrasing of his testimony he says himself that he was supposed to partake in the event and would gladly do it every day if he could. It is not hard for me to believe that people with the same mindframe would kill a lot of us if they had a way to do it, and that is what happened on 9/11. It is, however, very hard for me to believe that our president killed all of those people to blame it on Iraq to get his hands on the prescious oil, which we probably wont even be using in 5 years

why is it that moussoui can think one thing but Bush cannot?? they are both humans and use a brain to think... they are no different than each other...

Both their stories don't make sense... both lied about something...

how's this for motive...

http://filmstripinternational.com/index.php

What motive is it that you think terrorist could do it... religion?? Bush is religious too... in a more fucked up cut than moussoui is in as welll...

http://www.rotten.com/library/conspi...ohemian-grove/
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1489
http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/arch...miangrove.html

I think global power is much more of a motive to cause something like this rather than a trip to heaven... and bush wants that...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...829882&pl=true
(set up like the Pink Floyd Wall video...)

is that a good enough reason... or do you want me to get you more?? By the way... what are the other reasons the terrorists wanted to do it?? So the #1 country in the world would come over to thier lives and bomb their families... that makes sense...

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Some people were neglectful, including the president, before and during Tuesday September 11, that doesn't mean out government planned to murder 3,000 people so they could go to war with Iraq, and lose all respect that our allies had for us. That's one of the main reasons I don't think our government planned this shit because we are basically on our own now I mean nobody is going to lend us a hand in the future and I really don't see the U.S. government counting on being hated by everyone including their own citizens. I still see no reason they would do all of this in the first place, Massoui or however you spell it has made it very clear to me that Muslim extremists absolutely hate democracy and if you have heard paraphrasing of his testimony he says himself that he was supposed to partake in the event and would gladly do it every day if he could. It is not hard for me to believe that people with the same mindframe would kill a lot of us if they had a way to do it, and that is what happened on 9/11. It is, however, very hard for me to believe that our president killed all of those people to blame it on Iraq to get his hands on the prescious oil, which we probably wont even be using in 5 years

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all you are doing is making excuses for
the 9/11 commission report's inconsistencies

the gov't stated themself: they have no evidence that moussaoui was going to be involved on the 9/11 attacks.... and who did moussaoui say they were going to be done w/? the shoe bomber -
the same guy who didn't testify, b/c he has said he was not involved in the 9/11 attacks

moussaoui:
1) is crazily in desire to be apart of al-qaeda in more than he was
2) he was put on trial w/ a fucking shock thing across his stomach during his testimony
3) is being scapegoated for something he had no part in
so: the part he wish he had is now becoming a false reality in the history books [what the US gov't and Moussaoui wanted... how ironic they picked this guy to capture b4 the attacks]

stop reading things only put out by fox news and listen up to the world

I can't believe people really think moussaoui is repsonsible and that they want him dead... he was in jail on 9/11... but then agian they don't say that on fox either... they don't mention that he has no affiliation with Bin Laden...

I do love the fact that Moussaoui does get the word out that Bush will pardon him... the only truth I can see that has come out of his mouth during the whole trial...