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When I got caught with bud at my school I had to go to an awarness and intervention class for people who use/drink. We had to watch a couple retarded videos and in many of them they showed people who would get high and like cut themselves and break shit and fight and cry, I thought it was pretty fucked up. I personally have never seen or met anyone who got violent or crazy-emotional when high. Have you? :confused:
no.but i do know quite a few people who cut themselves.
No not really. Though I do feel that if somone has a serious mental health problem that weed may help them let go, and if cutting yourself or whatever is your only way of doing this then maybe. :confused:
Probebly just scarelore though to try and put you off weed. :D
I knew this one girl who never used to smoke weed. She said she didn't like what it did to her. But she had her own apartment and I was 16 at the time, so anywhere I could go to smoke where their weren't any parents was cool with me, even if I didn't really like her. Anyway, after a while of her not smoking we finally got her high. She started smoking weed regularly, buying it all the time. Because at the time I was still in school, I used to go round alot with my mates for a smoke, but there was something wierd about her that I didn't like. She was slightly eccentric, possibly schizophrenic. One day, I left my jacket and some weed at hers the day before, so I went round to get it. She was at home alone smoking a joint, totally high. She started telling me how much she liked me and how much she wanted to get with me, etc. I just kinda laughed, but then she asked if I felt the same. I told her no, I have a girlfriend. Then she went kinda mental. Like something inside her snapped. She started throwing stuff around, punching stuff, smashing all her shit up. I didn't know what the fuck to do, coz all of the people I hang with are cool, you know, they're not like that, so i'd never been in that situation before. anyway, i decided to walk out because I was high and she was blowing my buzz, and I didn't even know what was wrong.. I went back an hour or so later and she was lying on her bed, wearing nothing but a t-shirt, and cutting her legs with a pair of scissors.. I totally panicked, took the scissors off her, phoned her friend and waited for her to turn up then left and never went back
yikes dude
i thinks its a shame when people will cut themselves. But I guess some people just like to scar themsleves up because it somehow feels good?? I don't understand it at all.
I've spoken to a few people who do it or have done it, or that know people that have done it.. and no matter how many people I speak to, no matter how many different reasons, excuses or explanations for it I hear, i'll never understand it
I don't know why ppl cut themselves, I do understand the feeling of pleasure from pain, though,...like the "good" feeling of being tattoed. That girl sounds like she has more issues than cutting herself, but I'm no psychologist. Has anyone seen the movie "Secretary"? It's very sexually charged but the most important part of the movie is that Lee has just been released from a mental institution because she cuts herself...which leads her into the whole relationship with her boss. Anyway, I think it has something to do with being in control of your life and enjoying the pain of cutting...some ppl get a high feeling from physical pain.
maryjanemama, you're right.. Getting almost a "buzz" from the feeling of cutting yourself is an excuse i've heard.. I also know people who have admitted that it's a cry for help.. also people do it for attention, to get back at someone, to hurt someone, that kind of thing.. but like I said, i'll still never understand it
i've known some nice people who secretly or openly cut themselves. No matter how nice they are, there must be something wrong if they do that. I'm not saying there's something wrong WITH them.. but there must be a cause, that should be sorted out before they do themselves some serious harm. I worry about people that do it, sometimes it seriously frightens me.
for all of you who have had to go to some shit on drug "abuse" let me tell you that almost everything they tell you is a lie and is just propaganda to scare you, noone gets high and robs a bank or kills the people they love, noone smokes and then jumps off of a sky scraper, people do however get high and watch powerpuff girls or aqua teen
its simply a physical expression of self hatred. some are secret some not but if someone is open about it it could be a few reasons- fake, to get attention- or they acknowledge its a problem and want help. The point is that if someone is cutting themselves its probably not to get a buzz but a release from intensly bad emotions. I am doing a degree in psychology and have friends at uni with mental heath problems. Anyone cutting themselfs to get attention in a direct and obvious way either has really big problems or is faking "adolecent angst" type shit to be cool ( I hve seen this and it really is sickening). self harm is a release like smoking a fag and speaking from experience comes from very low self esteem.Quote:
Originally Posted by maryjanemama
I'll point out that i have used magic mushrooms to alter my self perception and since then i havent been feeling depressed (not clinical).
Understanding has helped me help myself, but ignorance of mental illness hardly helps those in psychotic (not hannibal lecter) states. I am lucky in that i am able to see beyond my current mood, but some people are not. so to simplify their problems in a black and white way wont help anyone. Life is complex
I had a friend who cut herself to emulate a girl she admired named Carrie. I eventually met Carrie, and after a while she explained her psychologist's theory on why she did. Her psychologist had said that she was completely out of tune with the world, that she doubted her very existence, and causing herself pain was her way of proving to herself that she had some tangible role in the world.
thats some messed up shit
i decided to walk out because I was high and she was blowing my buzz,
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haha, hell ya
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Originally Posted by Omun
when you put your body through a certain amount of pain, it produces a morphine like substance which gives off a euphoric feeling. Many people become addicted to it.
I was a cutter before, well it wa slast xmas i stoped.Now I just get high and relax and dont think about things so much. And it works. Im more calm and patient with others and myself. In other words im not depressed. Why? Because marijuana makes me feel happy. Im very aware that weed wont make me happy but i sure am happy about every last toke i take! Violence is controlable and that girl could have controled her anger if she werent baked. So hopefully she stays off bud!
i use to cut all the time... then i found ciggeraettes i found i do get irrtated after smoking a few bowls but only when watching cops on tv like seriously i cant stand cops i find myself standing up yelling at the tv when cops are assholes to ppl or beat black ppl when they didnt do anything
you guys are f'ing weird
why cut your self? to release what? blood ?
do you worship satan or something, im not gonna try to hate
but seriously, that must be one of the dumbest things you can do..
make your self bleed on purpose..when it does nothing at all
and same with ciggerets, all they are doing
is killin you, and making your life span shorter
i know reef will do the same, but shit..ciggerets are worse in my opinion
that last poster is a little kid. Trust me.
Look, I ended up in a place for post traumatic stress disorder and I managed to befriend someone of whom I found out later liked to carve herself like a thanksgiving turkey.
I didn't understand it, because God, why would anyone do such a thing? My psychologist helped me with it, because I sounded like ol buddy Shiz over here talking about satan worship and whatnot.
So here it is. Cutting is an ineffective coping skill that people use for the same reasons that others become alcoholics or drug addicts.
All of these people are unhappy with their lives. Maybe they've been through a lot and seen things you hope to God you never saw. Some use drugs to alleviate the hurt. Others cut. Now why do they cut, you ask.
Its complicated, but generally the idea is that if you relocate the emotional pain to a physical pain on your leg or your arm or wherever, then it's such a visceral painful and real experience that it distracts you from the burning pain on the inside.
It kind of sounds nutty at this point so heres a great example of something similar.
When Jim Carrey had to don the Grinch suit 12 hours a day, it was incredibly incredibly painful, and so to focus on his performance and not the discomfort, he had a survival expert teach him some things. So what he ended up doing is randomly punching his leg as hard as he could every now and then so that he focused on his leg and not the claustrophobia of the suit...
This is what the cutter does, except that the suit is themselves and they'll never escape that. This is why cutting doesn't work, and why therapy is very important to find the sources of their discomfort.
That girl that freaked you out, u know, that was a very good thing you did to help her. Good for you. A lot of people including me might have gotten scared and run for the hills.
That is an extreme case of cutting, but there are actually some incredibly normal people that cut and don't tell anyone. Just like the pretty girl that you have a crush on that goes to the toilet and pukes her guts up 3 times a day. You just never know.
So it any case, promote understanding, everybody. Not fear of what you don't understand. :)
yes and self harm is often a big indicator of mental illness as is drug abuse. I spend hours trying to explain that drugs are an atempt to allieviate in many cases bad existences of fucked upness, the drugs didnt cause it - it caused the drugs. but simple (religious) people always believe the easiest to understand solution and their inherent desire to simplify existence is the cause of so many problems. life is not black and white but christianity would have you believe that. dont fall prey to institutionalised stupidity, live through human nature and not a hatred for our inherent being.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stooj
i think your right up there ^^^^^
well said and shit
and cutting is just a fucked up thing to do to yourslef...
dudes i cut myslef once.... one time my mom pissed me off.... fucking bitch wouldnt let me ride my skateboard in my house so i said fuck you bitch and did it anyway... she got pissed and i was grounded....so i spent one whole day cutting my arm off.. i now have a prostetic arm....i urge anyone who cuts them self to look deep inside themselves and find the root of their problems.... please take my advice do not cut.
shit dude...
i dont even know if hes bein serious or not coz im high as fuck. .but its probably pretty hard to cut your own arm off LOL
The guy i work out with...his brother is a skitso. also was a bad herorin addict...he is coverd head to toe with scars from cutting and burning himself, when he comes down the gym with us he wears a vest and yeh you basically see the lot.
Peace
n a way i relate to all this. ive been through some shyt n my life n sometimes u need pain to get u through. trust me i - never have, never will - b a cutter. i need pain sometimes - so to all u cutters out there, be like me, 'a constructive cutter' - that means get a daym tattoo or piercing or something. i just pierce something everytime n once a tattoo.. works
who are you to judge religion as unstitutionalised stupidity? Im christian and ill believe whatever i want so fuck u. Christianity (and other religions) has brought happiness to a lot of people. It has gotten them outta drug addictions, robbery, u name it. I wonder what percentage of people in the world are apart of a religion. Probably a lot. Im not saying that its the best thing for everyone, but you cant judge something like that. Your just making yourself look dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by pofacedhoe
i know a girl who was totally anti drug and alcahol...she was clinically depressed and partly suicidal....one day we were blowin it down and she was there...i told her she only lives once and so she smoked....for the past year she smokes maybe 2 times 3 times a week and she hasnt cut since...shes happy, and she has a whole group of friends...weed was her savior...and i was its messanger
BOW TO ME
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That sentence proves the hypocracy of religion these daysQuote:
Originally Posted by teknodppr
who are you to judge religion as unstitutionalised stupidity? Im christian and ill believe whatever i want so fuck u. Christianity (and other religions) has brought happiness to a lot of people. It has gotten them outta drug addictions, robbery, u name it.
I would tell you the intense stupidty of that statment, but not here
jesus was a cutter.
man he had scars all over him :)
i used to cut myself but never when i was high. being high i wouldnt even think about it. but it does feel good. not phisicaly but mentaly, its like holding ur breath for a realy long time an ur muscles seem to tighten up an when u stop they release an its very pleasurable. i dont wanna sound sick but almost like an orgasm. i started doing it because i liked pain back then, it wasnt pleasuable at all at first i just liked flat out pain. after a while it feels good an like a release. like when u watch tha blood drain out, ur cares, worries, fears, all bleeding out. i havet done it for a while but i still think about it. i still want to every time im down, but i dont.
I think it would be a lot better if people started fight clubs instead of cutting themselves. There's nothing like the raw primal feeling of kicking the shit out of eachother.
I agree with potter in a way. When you get hit in the face, it the most refreshing feeling in the world. Its good to fight now and then, but people take it so seriously an want revenge.
My best friend cuts herself. I love her to death but i cant stop her. And everyone tells her its fine. They say if thats you way or reliveing youself then go for it. Weed is my way of relieving some tension but i cant do that, legally at least.
And someone said Jesus was a cutter. Your just a dumbass.
Their are real 'cutters' with real problems. But its nothing that cant be fixed. When i used to hang out with people who were depressed i would think suck it up, but i know what depression really feels like now and its hard to just suck it up.
But it also seems that cutting is becoming somewhat of a fad with teenage girls. At least round here. Everyone is cutting themselves because someone they know is doing it or they want attention. I dotn know, shit im rambling.
Im seeking attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by YES
haha
ya i never cut when i was high either i actually cut before i ever started smokin weed i was clincally depressed and suicidal man thats a part of my life i just wanna put behind but it kinda made me the person i am today. i havent cut since well last may and i hope i dont ever do it again, but sometimes its like an addiction that you dont even have to try and get money for... its really weird but bad. like this girl ive known since we were both 4(i went out with her once) and she is the most horrible cutter ever last time i talked to her was...the 6th of septemeber and at that time she said on both her arms all the cuts totaled to 113 i think thats horrible i did it in moderations and it was usually in the same place not all over.... and she wont go to counsleing or even try to accept help i tried to help her but she said because i didnt agree that she "loved"(i hate that word) her bf that i wasnt a good friend just because i had different views then her i wasnt her friend and i couldnt be one which is fucking retarded but, i think im going to call her soon i need to see how shes doing, she better still be alive......
Thats harsh Penguin. Try to help help her.
What about masifists (sp). I have a few friends who are masifists. They get sexual pleasure from pain. My one friend had this girl slice a 7 inch gash down his arm and then cauterize it with a hot iron. Do you know how fucked up that is? And he got off on it too.
He didnt do it because he was depressed or anything, but becasue it gave him sexual pleasure.