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Like i said before i'm new to all of this stuff and don't have the space or money for large super elaborate growths, with the lights i have 2 CFL one 150 watt 2600 lumens and one 100 watt 1600 lumen light, everyday distilled water and good soil what are we looking at time wise for a growth? i'm not looking to get anythign or even a great amount i'm just looking at with this set up when can i start to flower my plants?
Hope someone can help
GrowinGreen23
2-3 week for seedling stage
4-5 weeks for veg. stage
8-12 weeks for flower depending on the seed.
Good luck on the grow!!:thumbsup:
Take a better look at the packaging for those CFLS.
2600 lumens sounds closer to 45W while 1600 is probably 25W. They market them by showing the wattage required by a standard bulb to match the CFL output.
You are going to need a lot more. You will get desired results from a few small plants under 125-200W total watts. Around 6500K spectrum for veg and around 2700 for flowering stages.
Of course, you need money to grow.
lol...money ? whats that stuff....ya you need a little more light I would think and some mylar... keep them short , them lights wont go to deep , and if it was me , i would tie a few main branches down on each plant a little to spread it open a little , you WILL get more bud this way ... How many plants you even have ? if its like 2 or 3 a 250 HID light aint THAT much, get a kit and you will double what your trying to do with them CLF's
PSYCHO is that like week #2-3 you will have the seedlings and week #4-5 Veg and so forth? or do you mean like 2-3 weeks on the seedlings and then another 4-5 weeks veg?
How much would a HID kit cost and would this be abig thing to get, i'm actually in a room the size of a dorm in comparison to size. would this be too big for an area liek this?
I personally have 3 plants for myself and i have about another 15 planst starting to grow for someone else that they are taking off my hands today, it made me mad cause i left the light on and watered them before i had to leave soemwhere over th weekend and now the light was off for someo reason probably on of my roommates and they are stretching pretty bad, but they're not mine so they'll have to deal with their starters themselves.
Thanks for the info guys
GrowinGreen23
You what?? No.. no no no no no and NO!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
You can't say how long to veg.. This depends TOTALLY on growth speed..
Just veg the suckers until they have a few alternating nodes, and are about a foot tall.. :)
Flower often takes a little longer under CFL, (not much) so, you should choose the strain carefully:) Don't go to high in sativa with CFL indoors..:)
Good luck on your grow man!:)
P.S. Just brake your piggy bank and get a HPS!:) Later on, you upgrade to a MH for veg..:)
edit: maybe a little taller than a foot..
Hey Growin.
You definitely dont want to water everyday.
you lights are fine.. it would be best to add 2-4 more 150 watt CFL's
the confusion with the CFL's is this... a 150watt cfl has 150 watts OUTPUT... but it supposedly consumes only 42 watts... but it is the same light bulb..
check out this thread...
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=48343
LOVE is YOU
Thanks for the info so far guys but what aboutthis question
-How much would a HID kit cost and would this be abig thing to get, i'm actually in a room the size of a dorm in comparison to size. would this be too big for an area like this?-
I want to add a pic or two of what i have so far so you gusy can get a good look at it cause it's hard to describe it accuratly you know
Garden Knowm i only water when the soil is dryer and it usually is since i'm keeping the light on them as much as possible.
Wow just look at that thread VERY NICE and very interesting. So where did you get 10$ 150 watt bulbs for 5$??? ha ha would liekto see that so since i have 2-3 plants i should have about 8 bulbs? or is that too much and i need to have them how close to the plants? you said the tips were burned on yours is that ok?
Thanks again
GrowinGreen23
HID kits vary in price... in depends on the area which you are growing. I am currently starting up my 2nd grow and ive decided to go the HPS route. For the ballast, hood and light bulb (1000 watt) at my local hydroponics store im looking at approx. $300 CAD... so closer to $250 USD. 1000 watts HID should easily light a 4' x 4' to 5' x 5' area... hope this helps
peace and good luck with the grow,
froze,
P.S. I know that HID looks like a lot more expensive than fluoro, but my 1st grow was with fluoros and as the saying goes "You only get out what you put in" so I would rather invest a few bills and get a few thou in chron out.
yeah i believ you on that note, the area i'm growing in is about 3 feet long idk i guess you can descrbe it like a small small closet, i mean i'm in a dorm here so i don't want the world really knowing why i have lights pertruding out of every spot in my room. I have a roomy so i can't take up a huge area you know?
is HID better then HPS and what does HPS stand for?
HID = High Intensity Discharge... they include HPS (High Pressure Sodium) and MH (Metal Halide). Most ppl will tell you HPS is used for flowering and MH is used for veg...
froze
When i went into HD i went to buy a HPS light but i don't have the set up for it with the ballest but do i have to rewire somethign new to get more power or do i just buy something with the correct ballest and plug it in my wall?
for now i moved my CFL closer to the plants and im hoping that i can get something mostlyu experience with my 1st grow even if they are all males. Then maybe i can upgrade a lot more if not during this grow. It's abotu 2 weeks in so far on the 1st plants and about a week and a half on the second, hopefully i can get a pic or 2 up here son for you to look at and comment on
GrowinGreen23
just a piece of advice... for growing Home Depot SUCKS!!!! I tried there first, since they are obviously the easiest.... not happening! The HPS and MH lights they have there are not the right type. Most of them are for outdoor motion lights... What you need to do is find the closest hydroponics store, (thats what I did). In most places there is atleast one within drivable distance... just look them up online.
If a hydro store (or similar) is unavailable in your area, then that sucks... in that case stick with tons of fluoros and just keep adding more.
peace and best of luck,
froze
Will do, i will be taking a lok to see if i have one close by, is that the only place i can get those types of lights?
growinGreen23
You can buy them online if you have to. Just so you know, MH systems cost around $150, and HPS costs around $200. For a dorm room grow, you might want to stick with fluoros. They are cheaper, cooler, and safer.
By the way, I don't suggest growing in a dorm room. Everyone in your hall is going to smell it once it starts flowering. The fire department does random searches during fire drills. Your roomate IS going to find out (not sure if you're trying to keep it secret). When I lived in a dorm room, I started a plant in my room, and moved it to a good location outside once it was a foot tall.
peace
Are you trying to keep this a secret from your roommate? Just so you know, he IS going to find out.
Also, your entire hall is going to find out once they smell it. Plus, the fire department does random searches during fire drills. I highly suggest getting a fluorescent or 2 and then moving the plant outside once its a foot tall.
well i'm in a "dorm room" ha ha but over here i'm in a apartment type of room with my room being dorm room sized, my roommate knows but doesn't care i'm goign to get a few more fluros to make it easy i mean i already started with them and schools almost done so i think by the time it starts flowering i'l be home and in the comfrot zone i guess, besides isn't it too col out for then this time of the year?