Which is better and why?. I'm considering to start growing.
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Which is better and why?. I'm considering to start growing.
Overgrow did an article of a side by dide comparison of two identical grows with the only variable being the grow system (and undoutebly the ph/nutrient/oxygen availibility to the roots but unavoidable. The conclusion in a nutshell was the hydro setup had a MUCH bigger yield (about 2.5x if my memory serves me correctly). And personally I've noticed a MUCH quickly grow rate
That sounds about right.
Hydro is not for beginners, it's more work and cost more money to grow it right in hydro then dirt farming but I feel it's worth the effort and expense.
GROW SPEED!!!!!!!!!!
HYDRO and aero rock da house...
SOIL is also a good time and can produce tremendous yields..
there was a guy about 6 month back that had his entire 2 car garage filled with a planter box that was only 6 inches deep of dirt.. he grew one of the most impressive SOG's I have ever seen..
his screen name started with a T...
trembulous.. or something like that
and it was soil!!!!!!
love
Ok,Zandor now I understand your phase,"If You Go Cheap You Grow Cheap",I believe in that :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zandor
Hydroponics is very much for beginners, and cheap too. My first grow was growing HORRIBLE in soil. After a month they were about 3" tall and very unhealthy. I washed off the soil and put them in a bucket of fertilizer and they EXPLODED with growth. All you need is a bucket, a $5 air pump, and some fertilizer. I use peters 20-20-20 at 1/2 teaspoon per gallon. Total cost for my system was about $10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zandor
i must say i dont really know i do know that hydro is ment to be faster but my first grow in soil is giving some nice results so i wouldent like to diss any method untill i have tried them all
thanks all :)
Then you are the one in a million grower.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlock
A normal hydro grow cost about 800 bucks to set up. The Ph& tds pen cost 180.00 alone plus pumps, lights all all the other equipment. DWC is about as cheep as they come.
Like I said you must be the one in a million.
BIG BLOCK
: )
How long ago did you do this?
DId you finissh your plants yet?
Can I see a picture?
LOVE
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I'm not one in a million at all. Anyone can do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zandor
5 gallon bucket: $3
Air pump: $10
Air stone/tubing: $3
Fertilizer: $3
Viola, you've got a complete hydroponic system for $19. If you want to spend another $5 you can get a PH test kit from the pet store, but I don't even bother checking the PH anymore. I change the water about once a week, (straight from the tap) but I've gone a couple months without changing it with no negative effects. Oh, and I spent about $40 on CFLs if you want to include that too.
You CAN spend a hell of alot more if you want to, but there is absolutely no reason you HAVE to.
I finished the first grow in september. Got about 2oz of REALLY GOOD stuff under about 225 watts of CFLs. The frat boys at the local college really loved it. :D I've got another one growing right now and it's the healthiest one yet. Hopefully it will be ready to flower again soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Knowm
Because of the whole overgrow thing I've decided not to post anymore pics of my grow, but it looks just like every other NL plant. :D
Wow you got 2 ounces from just one plant!!!!!!!! wow!!!!!!!
This is one plant too grown Hydro with the proper nutrients and care.
it was just over 3.5 pounds!!!!
BigBlock, wouldnt u need more than that?? lyk the automatic watering system, the growth ballasts for the plants, bucket for water, water pump, and the nutrients... (at least thats how i'm planing on going about it..
Zandor what do you think of that?? 4 plants growing in a 4 1/4" tall styrofoam cup, with the bottom cut off so that the roots hang below, into/onto a support net, and periodically spraying the roots with water/nutrients.. how far/fast do the roots spread.. I've seen pictures/videos where roots hung from about 5-10 inches from out the rockwool cubes.. how long would it take for that to occur with a styofoam coffee cup of soil..
lol sorry for the jackmove..
3.5 lb = 56 oz, $800/56 = $14.29/oz. for Zandor
$19/2oz = $9.50/oz. for BigBlock
:p
Of course, the capital expenditures will favor Zandor over time, but I'll bet he vegged just a little bit longer. Probably has a better light, too.
But the main dif is between a personal sized grow and a commercial sized grow.
There's no need for a personal hydro grower to spend 800 bucks on setup. Sterilite, air pumps, stones, and tubing are all pretty cheap. PH and TDS meters can be found for as cheap as $20(TDS)-$35(PH). Then you can splurge on some good $10-$15/qt organic nutes.
DWC Bubble "Buckets" can be self-contained and non-recirculating, so no need of water pumps, outside res., etc.
or 56 x 28g x $10... $15,680
But we've gotten waaaay off the subject....
Hydrophonics was the original subject, but I'm sure all opions on that would sound underwater.
:p
The 2 ounces was due to the lights I am using, NOT what they are growing in. Had I been using a 250 watt HPS, like I will be soon, I would easily get 4-8oz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zandor
None of that is needed. All you're doing is replacing the soil with fertilizer. 5 gallon bucket replaces the pot. Stick some bubbles in there and you're done. No medium needed. No water pumps required. Just top off the water as necessary and change the nutrients every now and then whenever you get around to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheist
word.. what brand/model fertilizer did u use?? I'll check it out for my next grow
I use peters 20-20-20 for veg and 10-50-10 for flowering. 1/4 teaspoon per gallon for young plants and 1/2 teaspoon for established plants.
word... where u pick it up?? those are good for seedlings?
It yields more in the ground. Just keep them happy and they will keep you happy. Hydro is much faster though.