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ok im looking to buy a bunch of cfl's on ebay or some other place. i was wondering about how much are these gonna cost me ea and how much will the sockets be. also when it says 18/75 watts does that mean that it puts out 75 watts but is acctually only 18 i dont get it. get back to me on that one. thanks :thumbsup:
Buy Envirolites... I read here a couple of minutes ago, that eBay Item number: 4441030121 is the same Envirolites, manufactured and sold from China.
When the bulb says 18/75Watts... here's the deal:::
18 Watts ... it consumes...
75 Watts ... it's comparable to a 75W incandescent bulb
when u say its compareable to a 75 watt incandecant does that mean it will work as well as a 75 watt incandecant??? well heres the real ?tion- i need enough wattage to supply 2 sets of 2 plants in 2 different places. i was thinking like 4 bulbs for each area but if the bulbs- 25/100 watt- are too small do i need to just add more??? and if i did have 4 of them would it be the same thing as a 400 watt hps/mh (excluding all of the little goodies that the hps/mh gives u)??? and how many lumens would i be able to get out of them??? thanks :)
I RUN 9-26W/100W CFL'S. THEY DO A BITCHIN JOB.
I'm using 7 of the 42/150 cfl's, each has 2700 lumens, My 8 plants are doing very good right now. When they get bigger I dont know yet but may have to use more. These are just for vegging, I will use hps for flowering.
how many plants do you got growing under that??
Hey, I'm gonna risk sounding very ignorant but what does hps stand for? this is my first time, I'm gathering info, and trying to learn. thanks !
read the grow faqs.. theres lyk at least one person a day askin what a hps is..
I KEEP 6 BABIES THERE FOR 30 DAYSQuote:
Originally Posted by sheist
HPS = high pressure sodium
You can buy a 150 watt cfl that runs of 40 watt fixture for 9.99 at Home DEpot.
The socket is 4 bucks and the cord is another 4. dollars.So for
20 bucks...you can put your own 150 watt cfl light together.
I'm about to buy 2 of those set ups and put them together.So I'll post a how too when I get everything together in a couple dayz.
Also I will be making a reflective cover that will be mounted over the lights, so any light that go's up will bounce back down.I'll make this with cardboard and mylar...But it has to be mounted far enough away to not catch fire.Infact cardbored isn't the best thing to use.Maybe a sheet of aluminum painted white or covered in mylar(havn't desided yet):thumbsup:
awsome. thanks for all of the replies. im deff gonna get one of those 150 watt setups. sounds like itll work well. i have a limited space so im not shure that will work too well if its one of the evirolites that are pretty big but ill deff go look at them and see what i can do. id deff like to see pictures of that set up and thanks for all of your help. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Hello J DOG, What I did is got some aluminum flashing(from home supply) that is 14" wide and 26" long and cut and bent to make a rectangle shaped hood that measures 14"long x 5" wide(a little wider at bottom) x 5" high. Then I put a hole in the middle for a light socket, put it in, Then I got a fitting that screwws into socket and has 2 light socket that kind of looks like an upside down Y. Now I have a hood with 2-150 watt cfl's. I made 3 of these and they are working great. I will try to get a pic on here soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by J DOG 6000
My local walmart has the 150's for $8.96ea.
Here is a break down per hood:
flashing $1.00
socket $2.95
Y socket$1.95
wire and plugs $2.00
150 watt cfl's(2x) $17.95
Total approx. $25.00 per hood(including bulbs)
is the 150w the actual wattage?? or is it a lower number lyk 55w?
42 watt cfl = 150 watt light. Each 150 watt cfl has 2700 lumens.
the lower number is the one to go by!
thats pretty much the best cfls to but for the price and the lumens.there are 45w but only 2800 lumen and the bulb are huge compare to the 42w:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by justaseed
i use the 45's in my stealth cab with excellent results
No, you can't. You can put together a 42 watt light. Marijuana growers need to completely ignore the second number, as it is useless to us. Please don't use that inflated number when referring to your lights, it only confuses people.Quote:
Originally Posted by J DOG 6000
The 42 is what it uses, It puts out the same light as a 150. So what's your problem?? The output is what you want, And that is 150!!!
I'm new at this, But I was not born yesterday!
42 watts is the only relivant number. 150 watts is in comparing to incandescent lights, which nobody uses for growing. That number means absolutely nothing. 42 watts is what you need to know when figuring out what your yeild will be, how much heat it creates, how much it will cost to run, and how it compares to other growers. 150 watts does not mean anything at all. The actual output is measured in lumens, not watts.Quote:
Originally Posted by intheclouds
if you went by the high number my 350cfl grow would be a 1050cfl grow and my yeild of 4oz would not be very good for that many watts. that is because it is only 350watts!!!!!!! everyone needs to totally ignore the high number. noone will be able to answer questions properly if people go by the high number when describing there set up. IT IS A 42WATT CFL NOT A 150WATT CFL!!!!!!!!!
thanks Inthe clouds good info...I'll be doing that exact thing.
I did Not say it was a 150 watt.Quote:
Originally Posted by intheclouds
I said it was a 42 watt, And it puts out the lumens of a 150 watt.
Again, the lumens of a 150 watt incandescent, which NOBODY USES FOR GROWING MARIJUANA! If you feel the need to clarify the output for some reason, use 2700 lumens. "150 watts" means absolutely nothing to anybody here. You're only confusing people by saing 150 when you really only have a 42w.Quote:
Originally Posted by intheclouds
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Originally Posted by BigBlock
Have you ever bought a 42 watt CFL??????
If you have look at the package: 42Watt/Equivalent to 150 Watt = 2700 lumens.
If that is confusing, Talk to manufacturer don't argue with me. What I said is on the package!
it's not confusing unless you say you have a 300 watt hood with 2 of them(42's). why even bring the larger # into the mix. i know it's only 42watts but newbies are gonna be confused as shit. the fact that this thread even exists is proof that people are confused by the 2 different wattages on the box. i really don't care what you call it myself, but think of the 1st time grower with 2 42watters asking why his plants are stretching so much when he only has 3 plants under 300watts of cfl(that's 100watts a plant, right?) the reason the high number is there is to tell people which to buy to replace there incandescent light bulbs. example: my 150 watt incandescent reading light burns out, i want a cfl to replace it so i buy the 42watt because it puts out the same amount of light for reading as a 150watt incandescent.
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Originally Posted by justaseed
Now I'm confused, I looked and didn't see anything about a 300 watt hood, But anyway Let me try to explain, I built 3 hoods, Put 2-42 watt bulbs in each. I didn't really pay attention to the wattage of the hoods, I just figured the lumens and went by that. They are doing very well, I will see if I can get pics up. BTW this is my 1st grow, And all I know about computers is what I have learned playing with it. OK let me try these pics.
Who the hell cares what the package says?! That high number is not relivant here, DON'T USE IT! Yes, I have bought lots of 42 watt CFLs, and that's what they are, 42 watts. They are not 150 watts! They do not have "150 watt output". They are 42 watts, and they have a lumen output of 2700. That's it! I have a very expensive degree in lighting and electrical science, I know what I'm talking about!Quote:
Originally Posted by intheclouds
And you really should quit with the stupid colors and ridiculously large text, you're annoying everybody with that too.
so to make the cfl's work really well you would need about 4 42 watt bulbes to get enough watts for using them to be economical??? i think thats what im going to make. maybe 2 of those so thats 8 bulbs 4 of them 6000k and 4 2700k. i think thatll work well.
Yes, to grow anything usefull you'll need at least 200 watts of *ACTUAL* output. I got about 2 oz a few months ago with three 42 watts and four 20 watts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazzy View
you can get 4 socket "hollywood" light bars at home depot for around $15. the kind that go over the mirror in the bathroom. that's what i use for the 42's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazzy View
inthe clouds, i wasn't really trying to argue about it, i have seen alot of confusion over this recently and was just trying to clear it up. i hope i didn't make it worse! the 300watt hood thing was just an example. i can see how it was confusing, i tend to say "you" not meaning a specific person but just peolpe in general kinda like "you all" . now i'm just confusing everyone else too. i think i'll just go back to hitting the vaporizer!!!! see "you" later
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Originally Posted by BigBlock
42 watt= 2700 lumens:::150 watt(incand)= 2700 lumens
That is what I said.
Expensive degree and NO COMMON SENSE!
About my text and color, If you don't like it Don't read it!!!!!
You didn't make it worse buddy. But it is BigBlock that has me pissed, argueing the same facts with his technical shit! I need another bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by justaseed
Hey BigBlock see ya wouldn't want to be ya HAHAHAHA
No, that is not what you said. You said, repeatedly, that you had a 150 watt CFL when you do not. Nobody cares that a 42 watt CFL has the same output as a 150 watt incandescent. NOBODY USES INCANDESCENTS FOR GROWING! When you say something like "my 150 watt works well for growing this" or "I got a 150 watt CFL for $10" or "my 150 watt CFLs make x amount of heat" anybody with half a clue about lighting automatically assumes you are talking about the actual output, and it only makes you look like you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. This has nothing to do with common sense, if you had any we wouldn't be having this arguement. Maybe you'll find some common sense by the time you get out of high school.Quote:
Originally Posted by intheclouds
You have a LOT to learn about lighting, and you said yourself you are on your first grow. Instead of pretending like you're an expert when it's obvious you're not, you need to listen to what the real experts are telling you and learn from them.
I did listen to the experts. If I could get my damn pics on here (I am computer stupid), you could see how well they are doing. I don't claim to be an expert on anything, some stuff I hear and try sucks and some works great.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlock
OK I will try again, I have 6-42 watt cfl's(16200 lumens) over 8 plants. They are doing exellent, 1-plant is 8 weeks old and is 13" tall and 10" across (beautiful plant) and started another bunch of 7-plants that are 1 week old today and are about 2" tall and look great.
BTW I am a 46 yr. old country boy and have learned a thing or two over the years.
And that's all you need to say. Anytime you have a question about your grow, or are answering somebody else's question, that is the only information which is relivant.Quote:
Originally Posted by intheclouds
Hey Just got a great deal on some nice 100w cfl flood lights. I bought 4 of them 50.00pc. They are sweet!! Check your local HD!!!
pardon me as i put this into idiot proof format: lower number on packaging is actual wattage output of bulb cfls are good for seedlings and veging as they have the lowest lumens output needed in early stages of development and also are good because they put out little to no heat now for a secussfull grow you need a average of 8000 to 15000 lumens per plant throughout its lifetimem dependent on how tall a plant and strain it keeping in mind cfls good track record for veging it'd take a shitload of cfls to achive the desired lumens output in later stages of its life cycle therefore unless u wanna do like garden knowm at 14+ cfls per plant then invest in a hps 250+w also im assuming your growing more then 1 plant unless your just very gullible and dont know what the hell your doing and dont mind wasting 3 to 4 months ona male, therefore use the cfls for veging/cloning then switch off to the hps for flowering this is also the best way to have a self sastaning harvest periodicly for those tomatoe lovers outthere ...luck...
If you search the internet you can find 100w or 150w cfl's ......although they are not that compact, about 10-14" tall. they will put out between 5-9 thousand lumens ea. Just watch the base size.