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How come in order to help people, primitive cultures to be specific, you must first convert them using missionarys. The whole missionary things bugs me bad,
sure we will give you aid, but first you gotta change your religion and build a stone church in the village.
Even if you arnt forcing them to convert or giving them a choice to not listen, you are still shoving it in their face, going into a village and tell people your religion is right is so wrong. At least in my eyes.
I don't think that's really done much anymore. The missionaries that I know will go somewhere and just help...rebuild a village, teach in a school, meet medical needs are all examples, and then just use the opportunity to share what they believe. It's really quite diferent from what most people think.
Or they are murdered....Quote:
Originally Posted by mont974x4
Yes, that does still happen.
Who say's they're primitive? Try living as a hunter gatherer in the rainforest. They have to learn and memorize a lot of shit in order to survive. They have adapted to their environment. Technology does not necessarily mean advanced.Quote:
Originally Posted by bedake
I know what you mean though, missionaries piss me off too.
I agree with what you said. I'm a christian in the sense I believe Jesus died for our sins but alot of the modern Judeo-christian beliefs bug me. I feel the bible we read today was passed on through many generations by mouth and is now a book of fictional stories based upon the original stories. I also think forcing or even attempting to force your religion onto someone who does not want it is wrong and it makes you look like a prick too.
Im a christian but I'm alot like soxsuk christianity has changed to much. Missionaries don't be pissed at them they are doing what they think is right and it really isn't hurting the people they preach to and if they get to pissed they just boil them in a stew and eat them. It's not really forced just their I mean c'mon would you prefer them to go on a ji'had and kill everyone that isn't christian. They ain't forcing just being annoying lol.
yeah i agree 100%, i did voluntary work in southern Sicily, we never tried to change their beliefs. a Jesuit friend does voluntary work in Egypt, they never tried to change them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mont974x4
Missionaries believe what they are doing is saving peoples souls. They beleive they are doing people a favor by building schools, hospitals, and churches. You may not believe it but that's probably why you're not a missionary.
umm sort of, Crow. I don't thnk of it as doing someone a favor, so much as just doing something nice. From a biblical view its the right thing to show love to other people and part of that is helping to meet their non-spirtual needs. That's why I do so much of the charity work that I do and support others doing similar things. I keep my eyes open for opportunities to share what I believe but I try not to force the issue and be a jackass about it. Do I fail sometimes, sure, but I'm human and a Christian that doesn't mean I'm perfect.
On the whole, misionaries are spreading the gospel through works to unbelievers to save their souls and enrich their life on earth by bringing them salvation. They do this freely and expect little to no compensation in return. That's pretty much a favor in my book.
What would you do if muslims did a missionary thing, and tried to convert, or whatever you call it?
If you're going to help, do it w/o the religious mumbo jumbo attached.
That's my peace,
How come in order to help people, all cultures, you always want to send them on "missions"? The whole mission thing is awesome.
Hmmm, they need them to spread the Word and get the materials, that these Christian Publishers make, out to everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by bedake
Ok but arent most of us doing almost the exact same thing? When you go out with friends to smoke some weed and theres a person whos never done it, do you not try to get them to do it? You do it because you want to get more people into your group (just like the church). Hey I do it to but dont knock the church for doing it for a good reason. Im not that religious at all but I had to say it.
I'm a selfish little cracker, lol! I never offer it to anyone I don't alredy smoke with, but if they ask, sure...I'll let them in the circle for a toke, or two. ;)