slavery

i was drinkin with my friend one time, hes black and i suspect he might be a racist on the low, and he told me black people are still mad about slavery. do you feel that they should get over it already and stop tryin to use it as an excuse?

myself personally, i think when they say that, its a cop out. slavery happened over 200 years ago and they werent there and i highly doubt they had ancestors that were slaves. it kinda annoys me because every race had slaves and they got over it. i also dont think it is right to throw every white person into the slave owner category. if you really think about it, it wasnt a race thing, it was a money thing. i just wish my friend would be a lil less ignorant and examine things more openminded. i dunno what do you guys think?

People will find anything to take offence to. He hasn't been afftected personally but i guess stories have been passed down through generations and I can understand their Anomosity towards certain people!

Where I live in London, nowadays the Racial Mix is evenly spread out and Racism etc is slowly but surely being pushed out!

let em be mad man.

You dont know the facts, trace up whether his ancestors were slaves at one point.

If it was possible 200 years ago that our race treated em like shit then how do they kno we dont still think that??

Altho i get u in this day of age there really shudnt be anythin to be mad at.

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let em be mad man.

You dont know the facts, trace up whether his ancestors were slaves at one point.

If it was possible 200 years ago that our race treated em like shit then how do they kno we dont still think that??

Altho i get u in this day of age there really shudnt be anythin to be mad at.

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yea, thats what im sayin. whats done is done, a lot of people dont even think about that shit no more but some still do. people are cool with each other now.

another thing that causes problems imo, is that black people have to have their own things like channels, awards, etc... by them doing that its creating problems. why cant we all just share the same thing. its like segregation all over again.

Oh I think we'll be seeing scars from slavery and the civil rights movement for a long time. It sounds like your friend is angry at the situation or doesn't know what he is angry about. Both valid positions. Don't take it so personally and be willing to at least hear what he has to say. It's when people throw up their hands and tell the black community to "get over it" that they get pissed off. A lot of these people simply want recognition for what their families went through.

You say that you doubt "they" had ancestors from back then but where do you think they came from, a stork? I have bookkeeping records from a small plantation that my family owned forever ago. I'm not sure the year, I'd have to go pull them out. In these documents there are records of slaves, their family ties, where they came from, who they bought them from, and how much they cost. It's a fascinating piece of history but when I think about my family name being attached to something like that I am horrified. No, it's not my fault this many years later but I feel it is my duty to learn from the mistakes of my ancestors.

Congress just THIS YEAR apologized for allowing the lynch-mob mentality to fester during the years surrounding the civil war. Countless black men, women, and children were murdered out in the open and the government actively looked the other way. Not a very respectable past. Both people need to allow themselves to have frank, honest discussions about modern-day racism. It's the only way it will finally be squashed.

"Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering." -Yoda

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Oh I think we'll be seeing scars from slavery and the civil rights movement for a long time. It sounds like your friend is angry at the situation or doesn't know what he is angry about. Both valid positions. Don't take it so personally and be willing to at least hear what he has to say. It's when people throw up their hands and tell the black community to "get over it" that they get pissed off. A lot of these people simply want recognition for what their families went through.

You say that you doubt "they" had ancestors from back then but where do you think they came from, a stork? I have bookkeeping records from a small plantation that my family owned forever ago. I'm not sure the year, I'd have to go pull them out. In these documents there are records of slaves, their family ties, where they came from, who they bought them from, and how much they cost. It's a fascinating piece of history but when I think about my family name being attached to something like that I am horrified. No, it's not my fault this many years later but I feel it is my duty to learn from the mistakes of my ancestors.

Congress just THIS YEAR apologized for allowing the lynch-mob mentality to fester during the years surrounding the civil war. Countless black men, women, and children were murdered out in the open and the government actively looked the other way. Not a very respectable past. Both people need to allow themselves to have frank, honest discussions about modern-day racism. It's the only way it will finally be squashed.

"Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering." -Yoda

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but the point im tryin to make is that they werent the only slaves in the history of the world but they try to make it sound that way.

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Originally Posted by lemonboy

Don't take it so personally and be willing to at least hear what he has to say.

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the thing is though, i think hes a racist on the low. this other time we were drinkin and we had this spanish kid with us and he starts fuckin with him, crackin jokes but keeps going. as we're walkin he pulls me to the side and tells me, "spanish people have embarassed black people too many times, now its their turn." then he starts up with him again cuz he says nigga, and you know all the urban kids say that shit. sayin dont bring that "nigga" shit round him. what are your thoughts lemonboy?

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the thing is though, i think hes a racist on the low. this other time we were drinkin and we had this spanish kid with us and he starts fuckin with him, crackin jokes but keeps going. as we're walkin he pulls me to the side and tells me, "spanish people have embarassed black people too many times, now its their turn." then he starts up with him again cuz he says nigga, and you know all the urban kids say that shit. sayin dont bring that "nigga" shit round him. what are your thoughts lemonboy?

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The Spanish as a Group are Racist beyond belief, I understand where he's coming from on that one mind!

i think the most racist people imo are italians. its kinda ironic though, they act racist towards blacks but try to emulate them and listen to hip hop and shit, the youths that is. did anyone hear of that howard beach incident awhile back?, thats the perfect example.

i know a bunch of black people that act the same way you are describing your friend. Makes me wanna be like, "Yeah, I have 2 slaves in my backyard working right now"(sarcasticly) to make him think twice about saying that shit to me

Weed can bring the races together. Legalize now!

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Weed can bring the races together. Legalize now!

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this is true, weed can bring together the most opposite people out there, even a neo-nazi skinhead and black panther.

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this is true, weed can bring together the most opposite people out there, even a neo-nazi skinhead and black panther.

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People will find anything to take offence to. He hasn't been afftected personally but i guess stories have been passed down through generations and I can understand their Anomosity towards certain people!

Where I live in London, nowadays the Racial Mix is evenly spread out and Racism etc is slowly but surely being pushed out!

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I agree, this guy knows what hes talking bout

happy chansukah to you too

its "HANUKKAH" you putz, oy ve.

Every race has fallen victim to slavery at various points in history. The Chinese and Irish who built the railroads were essentially "legalized" slaves because of the so called "contracts" they were forced to sign. And let us face the fact that this is still going on with all of the illegal aliens who are picking crops, shoveling shit, and doing all those other jobs that most of us won't do for $5 a day. Get over It!!

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Every race has fallen victim to slavery at various points in history. The Chinese and Irish who built the railroads were essentially "legalized" slaves because of the so called "contracts" they were forced to sign. And let us face the fact that this is still going on with all of the illegal aliens who are picking crops, shoveling shit, and doing all those other jobs that most of us won't do for $5 a day. Get over It!!

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thats what i said.

i have alot of black friends and i just feel that they think "america" owes them something. when i try to explain how others were slaves too, not just blacks, they don't wanna hear it. it's hard to change any1's belief system or way of thinking, so i just let them be. we barely talk about it anyway so it's all good.

seems a lot of us think the same.

White people have more in common with black people than rich people. Most white people worked the fields with the brothas. Most whites aren't related to slave owners, but the vast majority of Americans of African ancestry in the United States are descendants of the 400,000 black slaves forcibly brought to the New World prior to 1860.

black people who think white people owe them because their ancenstors were slaves piss me off. they werent there. black people like these i call "niggers"

i hope i'm not the only black person here. (well, half but it still counts.) don't let your friend speak for all black people. the majority of black people aren't like that. we 'got over' the slave thing and the shitty treatment until the civil right era. yeah, every race has had some form of slavery in one form or another. but the thing about our slavery is that it's pretty new. only about 250 years old in america. (earlier in northern europe and south america.) in america, the country they currently live in. how long do you it took jewish people in egypt to get over it? you remember when that vietnamese diplomat came to seattle ? the vietnamese hasn't 'gotten over' vietnams treatment towards it's own people. they wanted him to get the fuck out.

so basically, most blacks have gotten over it, but a little more time is going to be needed for slavery to become a thing of the past.

do you ever make racist jokes at his expence?

your right charlie horse I got several black friends thats the way they are, hell we just smoke some weed, and chill. Black, white, purple, green, red all are welcome.

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i hope i'm not the only black person here. (well, half but it still counts.) don't let your friend speak for all black people. the majority of black people aren't like that. we 'got over' the slave thing and the shitty treatment until the civil right era. yeah, every race has had some form of slavery in one form or another. but the thing about our slavery is that it's pretty new. only about 250 years old in america. (earlier in northern europe and south america.) in america, the country they currently live in. how long do you it took jewish people in egypt to get over it? you remember when that vietnamese diplomat came to seattle ? the vietnamese hasn't 'gotten over' vietnams treatment towards it's own people. they wanted him to get the fuck out.

so basically, most blacks have gotten over it, but a little more time is going to be needed for slavery to become a thing of the past.

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Unfortunately, slavery still exists in the world. The young sex slaves and child laborers that are making parts of asia famous, certainly a good portion of the prostitution that goes on here in the us is tantamount to slavery, and out and out no holds barred slavery in south america, the middle east, asia and parts of africa...so we should, if anything, be sorry that we have done little or nothing to end these things in our own time. And governments, most if not all of them, still look the other way. It's getting better, I think, but there's still a long way to go.

Most of black people I have known are not particularly interested in slavery or reparations. They'd just as soon leave it behind. But there are a bevy of assholes who make a lot of money whining about slavery, and abortion and drugs and cell phones and everything under the sun. Clowns like Jesse Jackson, Bill O'reilly, etc etc etc ad nauseum are out there whipping folks up for one whiney reason or another. And they all have a following and everyone and his dog has a fucking blog now and thinks that their opinions are really important. But they are no match for the ranks of Jesse Jackson, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Moore, Bill Oreilly, and their ilk who are basically money grubbing oppurtunistic capitalists (aka...carrion eaters) who will prey on any issue that will get them a grant, donation, book deal, etc. Gotta give them credit for seeing a niche and filling it...the american way and all that. Although these folks step well outside the realm of normal when it comes to allowing the end to jutify the means.

wtf, fukk all that 'this race is more racist' bullshit, thats racism in itself fukkn azzwipes

homie i puff with down the block aint like that, dont even mention bs like that. i'm latino but i'd recognize that for life with whatever emotion if i found out my just-recent ancestors were slaves. not being upset is weird, like u have no family pride or strong empathy for blood ties for that matter. as far as our own award shows n all that, behind the color is a certain culture n its simply a celebration of that.

I'm not black, but if I were, I'd be pissed... all the time. Well, I am pissed all the time but for different reasons. First of all, I'd be pissed because people think racism is no more, when it is certainly not true. I'd demand reparations be donated to black charities. I'd also be pissed because there is so little racism in America compared to other countries, yet America and other powers do nothing. I'd be some typ of activist and the first thing on my to-do list would be to get our gov't to promote tolerance in other countries.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Horse

but the thing about our slavery is that it's pretty new. only about 250 years old in america.

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Yeah I mean think about it, Rosa parks died not that long ago. I don't think they should have the racist approach some of them have, because its just fighting fire with fire. I mean white people were racist to them and now they are racist to white people, or in my old school spanish people. I don't believe in racism because its stupid to blame an entire race and history of people for something a couple of dumbfucks did. I don't think they should get over, but I do think they need to take a better approach to fighting for equality. I know a lot of people who aren't like that and never bring that stuff up, and the people who do, yes they have a right to be mad, but in general I hate racism and it solves nothing