New house -Looked at & Designing growroom

Hey everyone, I recently had a peek at the trailer I will be buying to live in for the next 6-9 months.

I dont have much room given that its a trailer and you cant do much with it but here are my plans.

I plan on growing 1 mother so I can clone off and grow the clones out and force flower so I can harvest lots with little plants.

Lighting
Mother - 400w MH to veg constantly. (24hrs light)
Clones - 650w MH for 1 week, 500w HPS for flower.

Plants & Strains
I plan on growing 6-7 plants , 6-7 clones that will be taken off of the mother and be potted into soil. Yes this is a soil grow.
I am thinking about doing a Bubba Kush strain as I have seen KindKid1's photos of his stock( I think its his ).

Potting
For the mother I plan to germinate putting her into a jar of water for 24hours to soften the shell & easier sprouting. I will be planting 3 seeds to make sure I get a female.

Potting for the mother I am going to use a 2gal bucket for seedling.
Also plan to transplant into a 5gal bucket after I see some rooting in the 2gal.

Potting for the clones I will be using 3gal buckets for the whole grow.

Growroom Size
For my grow room size I have 6x6x6ft room to use.

If you have any suggestions please let me know, or anything else I should be needing throughout this grow. There are some unmentioned things right now but I am about to head out the door with a friend to chill with some chicks so dont got time, will post it later.

-Joel

Potting:
Hey Joel, nice to see you're going to grow in your trailer.

For germination, I followed KindKid1's FAQ that's located in Overgrow.com
You put a glass of water with one drop of SuperThrive.... then throw your seeds in there. After about 12 hours, I had to agitate the water a little bit and all of them went under water to the bottom.

Just as you're saying, I planted 5 seeds to make 'sure' I get a female. One of those seeds, well, it already bit the dust. The other four are growing right now. Those four, when they're a little bigger, I'm going to take one clone from each to determine sex. Those clones I give them 12/12... Once I know the sex, I know which 'mother' plant is female. I kill off the males (if any) and start my grow.

I guess that's what you're going to do. ;)

Laters,

-turtle420 :cool:

Hey a turtle, yes I do plan on using that technique for germination, just never thought to put a drop of Superthrive ;)

I will force the sex by cloning doing the same thing you just said, and trashing the mails of course.

-Joel

Glad to hear you call it a trailer...I am buying a house and in the ads most people call trailers - ranches...They are not ranches...!

Anyway..seeing how you only have 1 story, its easy for pigs and other idiots to peek in the window...I suggest growing pricker bushes or roses under every window...that el teach em.

And it will add to the value of your property when you sell it.

Hey stupids, glade to see some people have some intrest in this thread and it wasnt a complete waiste of my time.

I cannot plant those plants and have them there yearly because where I live, we get snow, and snow is a nogo with plant growing (obviously).

I think Im just going to build higher fence than it is , use tinfoil to cover my window as we use it to keep light out of our rooms so they will not suspect anything.

I already recieved 150grand for selling my previous home and only paid 30grand for this thing, wich leaves me with a total of 120grand to do what I want, other than pay the rent and the bills and that bullshit.

Joel,

In my house, I have "black-out curatins" on the windows... the things stop light completely... they're the same material used in hotels for their windows. Maybe that'll help you. :)

Heya turtle.

Any link on where to purchase them online?
Or even @ Homedepot or walmart.

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Heya turtle.

Any link on where to purchase them online?
Or even @ Homedepot or walmart.

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I picked them up @ Walmart... to be honest, go there. I tried a couple of other places and nobody had them.... many people had never even heard of them!

Anyways, in Walmart, in the section of the "curtains" or that shit. Again, they're called "Blackout Drapes" or "Blackout Curtains".

BTW: two 30"x6feet drape costs $30.... I know, I know... but, what the hell... they work wonderfully. I spent $60 on 4 of those things...

hey joel, I guess one could argue you can never have enough, but I think your lighting is a bit overkill. Certainly to maintain one Mother, a 250w MH will do the job. You didn't mention a second room, which you'll need to maintain the different light cycle of the mother. So u'll probably use a closet which will need good heat ventilation even with the 250w. For 6 or 7 clones a 600w HPS will do great, although if your going to overkill, the flowering is more justifiable.

Peace
Snow Owl

Hey snowowl, I forgot to mention my mothers chamber that I have been constructing over the past few days. Its in the closet that is directly across from the room that I game growing my clones in, it is 3'x4'3.

Snow, I plan on using the 500w MH for the mother because I've decided not to veg my clones and just to force flower them, to have a steady supply of bud. Anyways the reason I plan on using the 500w MH my main gal, I will be taking constant clones from here every 6-7 weeks, so she has to be in prime condition! If she starts to over grow, I will change the lighting to a 250w MH and that will be that.

Turtle : I think I'll stick to my tinfoiled windows because I do not want to spend 30$ on drapes...

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Turtle : I think I'll stick to my tinfoiled windows because I do not want to spend 30$ on drapes...

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That will work just as well... plus they'll be easier to instal. :thumbsup:

True that, I do not plan to have any of my light reflecting off of that, for I plan to mylar my walls around the inside the tinfoiled window.

On the plus side of using this is that its cheap, cops dont suspect shit, wont peak into your windows, and they can go to hell :)

Edit :: Turtle ; when are you starting your grow my friend? I see you posting so much and you look so knowledgable, I cannot wait to see your stuff man.

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Edit :: Turtle ; when are you starting your grow my friend? I see you posting so much and you look so knowledgable, I cannot wait to see your stuff man.

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Joel,

I just started! :D I'm @ Day 15 or 16... unsure right now. Too :stoned:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...071#post414071

Anyways, I'm posting the things I think I can help out with. As to me being 'so knowledgble'... LoL Sorry dude... maybe it looks like that, but no, I'm not really a fountain of Knowledge :p

In fact, I've never grown!!! This is my first grow! I'm all excited every morning running to my cabinet (inside closet) to see the new growth/changes...

I'm having big time trouble deciding what the heck to use in the actual plant growth. I'm doing Hydro NFT, and I've got the General Hydroponics 3-part nutrients... but I've got quite a number of additives... and I don't know when to use them. Do you have experience with hydro? I'm lost.

Joel, keep us updated! :) It is very interesting what you're doing... LoL! I don't know if you'll ever post pictures of the outside of the trailer (maybe you won't for your security), but I always imagine this guy walking into the trailer full of growing weed! LoL

Best,

-turtle420 :cool:

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Originally Posted by turtle420

Joel,

I just started! :D I'm @ Day 15 or 16... unsure right now. Too :stoned:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...071#post414071

Anyways, I'm posting the things I think I can help out with. As to me being 'so knowledgble'... LoL Sorry dude... maybe it looks like that, but no, I'm not really a fountain of Knowledge :p

In fact, I've never grown!!! This is my first grow! I'm all excited every morning running to my cabinet (inside closet) to see the new growth/changes...

I'm having big time trouble deciding what the heck to use in the actual plant growth. I'm doing Hydro NFT, and I've got the General Hydroponics 3-part nutrients... but I've got quite a number of additives... and I don't know when to use them. Do you have experience with hydro? I'm lost.

Joel, keep us updated! :) It is very interesting what you're doing... LoL! I don't know if you'll ever post pictures of the outside of the trailer (maybe you won't for your security), but I always imagine this guy walking into the trailer full of growing weed! LoL

Best,

-turtle420 :cool:

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Hey turtle, glad to see you growing & that your sprouting was successful.

Although you do have one hell of a ways to go. I have a couple of questions for ya though. Do you plan to keep 1 mother and just take clones and force flower on them?

Sorry, I do not posses knowledge on hydro systems or how to use hydro, although you are using a resivoir right? If you are, you apply your nutes threw that as it would go threw the plant.

Some day I will walk into my trailer and it WILL be full of weed man, it truely will. Btw once they're done, Ill mail ya a sticky sample :) :rasta:

Back to my house.

Im about to purchase some seeds from Drchronic.com

I plan on growing Hashplant , possibly G13, because as I remember zandor saying in 1 of my previous posts that KBS Growers can achieve 7 pounds /plant.

Zandor : If you have any more knowledge on how to make this possible, please do inform me on this thread as I am sure others will want too.

Turtle : I am soon to get pictures as I need to get more cash because I am buying a slick bong to smoke some slick greens out of. ( by the way, that 'sticky sample' I ment a blunt with a nice coating of oil, nice treat for the day )

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Originally Posted by Joel

1. Hey turtle, glad to see you growing & that your sprouting was successful.

2. Although you do have one hell of a ways to go. I have a couple of questions for ya though. Do you plan to keep 1 mother and just take clones and force flower on them?

3. Sorry, I do not posses knowledge on hydro systems or how to use hydro, although you are using a resivoir right? If you are, you apply your nutes threw that as it would go threw the plant.

4. Turtle : I am soon to get pictures as I need to get more cash because I am buying a slick bong to smoke some slick greens out of. ( by the way, that 'sticky sample' I ment a blunt with a nice coating of oil, nice treat for the day )

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1. Thanks dude... I'm very happy myself!
2. MOTHER PLANTS: I planted 5 seeds, I somehow killed one, and now there are 4 left. I plan on taking clones and 'force flower' them like you say... Once we know the sex of the mother plants... we hunt down the males and.... oh, gosh...

[smoking from the bong pictured below]
:stoned: :p:stoned: :p:stoned: :p:stoned: :p
turtle- Let's go get those males!!!

[plants running away]
:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

[Terminator music]
:pimp:
turtle- Your time has come Mother Fucker...

[male plants running away... females screaming in dispair]
:dance: :dance:

[turtle stops plants on their roots... aims gun]
:thumbsup:
turtle- Yippy-ki-yay mother-fucka!!!
:upsidedow :upsidedow

[only females left alive]
:pimp:
Now... about those 12 hours of light...
................ The End................

3. Yeah, I'll be using a Rubbermaid box as my reservoir...

4. Bong eh? The bong is my preffered smoking tool... but for some reason, I've never actually bought a bong... until yesterday... please see pic below... :)

HAHAHAHA

Turtle, you always make me laugh man, its great.

That bong in the picture that you bought, that is called a zonger, I have smoked out of so many and there just so unique because of the kinks in the glass. They hit like a mother fucker.

I have 2 bongs my self and I am buying another next week :D

My next grow that I am going to be doing , I plan on purchasing one of Zandors systems from him and his friend and plan on going hydro.

SOG :)

Alright well, I had to downsize because I had a recent relative come and stay with me.

I am currently only going to be using a 4x5x4 closet.

I found out that it only costs 2.65$ kW(1000w).

I think I might run a 500hps in my closet come flowering and a 600mh in my closet for veg. I am going to LST these plants so I can average anywhere from 2-3 pounds a plant and last me until my next harvest.

Bubbakush will still be the strain.
Pictures to come asap, I need to get my shit together and ready.

Any replies are welcome and opinions are critical, if you have an opinion on how I can improove my grow room, please dont resist to post.

-joel

I'm in doubt...

These plants that are going to get LSTed (nice)... They're going to get flowered now?

Not yet turtle.

I have purchased all of my goodies that I will need for this grow and I thought I would list them here, for educational purpose's(I guess?).

1. Superthrive 4oz
http://www.insidesun.com/index.php?a...=4&prevstart=0
2. Flora Bloom 1gal
http://www.insidesun.com/index.php?a...=4&prevstart=0
3. Nursery Containers 3gal and 5gal
http://www.insidesun.com/index.php/a...id/9/subid/45/
4. Mexican Bat Guano 1lb
http://www.insidesun.com/index.php?a...12&prevstart=0

So far so good Joel...

I envy you on the bat guano crap... I want to order some... but I already have so much shit, that I'll use what I have...

The Flora Bloom looks interesting... long time till we find out how it works. I've got a BGHydro Bloom Blaster additive... also long time in the future...

Looking good J ;)

I like your plan. I look forward to some pix...you got some good equipment.
Sorry to see you didn't choose hydro, but with that said; I would like to ask you; What soil mixture are you using?...this is real important, and I don't recall seeing where you mentioned it.

The best part is you got some big lights :dance: that's :thumbsup:

for the size pots you are using, I would plant the seed right in the sticky-moist soil in one of those pots,... and wait :) seedlings will adapt to the soil, no replanting, you don't ever have to stress the plant, taking a chance of shock/hermie...imho.

edit: oh yeah,...It Works...

Hey Latewood and turtle, great to hear from you guys.

Latewood : I did not choose to do hydro because I do not posses knowledge of that sort. Soon in the future I hope to learn to grow big in hydro.

As for my soil mixture, Im not 100% decided on this yet but I want the most feed back on this inperticular kind of soil and how its usage/drainage is.
Foxfarm Agro-ponic Growing Medium
http://www.insidesun.com/index.php?a...10&prevstart=0

Do you suggest I germinate or just plant in the sticky icky goodness and let nature do have its way?

Latewood, I also have problems when it comes to pictures because I dont have the money to spend 400$ on a good digital camera, the only camera I have for a computer is my webcam wich doesnt take detailed photos.

Turtle : Yes the bat shit was a great decision as it supplies my girls with a heafty dosage of nitrogen for green goodness. I myself am getting anxious to get started but I know if I jump the gun it could turn out to be a fatal error, on the other hand it could come in well, Im just going to wait until I have all of my shit perfected.

I was on OG the otherday and I was told by 'GrowerGuyWannaBe' that the information Zandor gave me was false on KBS growers growing 7lbs/plant(Hashplant). You would need some pretty heafty lighting for that. I do plan on mylaring my walls and that should almost double my light and plus this is will be LST'd so I think I could yield around 1lb/1.5lbs. What do you think my maximum yield would be?

Zandor if you ever come cross this post, if you got any link to where I can view how the KBS growers grew 7lbs a plant, lighting, nutes they used and all that goodie shit :)

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I was on OG the otherday and I was told by 'GrowerGuyWannaBe' that the information Zandor gave me was false on KBS growers growing 7lbs/plant(Hashplant). You would need some pretty heafty lighting for that. I do plan on mylaring my walls and that should almost double my light and plus this is will be LST'd so I think I could yield around 1lb/1.5lbs. What do you think my maximum yield would be?

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Hey J,

I don't know... I trully don't see a reason why Zandor would give us false info. Plus, I would be very much more inclined to trust a fellow we all know, called by the name of Zandor, than a guy over @ Overgrow.com (bunch of rude people) who's name is """"GrowerGuyWannaBe""""

As to Zandor's 7lbs/plant (Hashplant) yield... I really doubt that was a newbie. I would think it's an experienced grower that was able to do this.

As to you not using hydro Joel, carry on. I'm very interested in seeing your progress. But, I also have no experience (never grown) and I'm doing hydro... I guess it'll also be a learning experience for us all. :)

Best,

-turtle420 :cool:

Heya turtle.
There's always Trial&Error in wich we learn and lose:)
Dont get me wrong at all with that quote, as I ment no offense to Zandor.

Im just intrested on how to grow my plants up to roughly 2 lbs a plant.
If I could get 2 lbs a plant I would only grow 2 as it would last me, but of course along with new ideas come with new questions so here they are.

If I cut 2 clones from a femanized Bubbakush, how long would I have to veg/LST them to get around 2 lbs a plant.

I can upgrade my lighting.

.like Advanced Nutrients and Botanicare, but I read up on bubblers and started growing that way. I have done side by sides everytime I grow soil vs hydro and I'm gonna tell you right now...You can get 2-3 times the yield from each plant growing hydro. If you want to try...I will show you a no bullshit, almost foolproof...well, some people are fools :p ...way to grow hydro. I also have found a new product to try; DR. Hornby's Iguana Juice...from AN...It is a 1 part organic mix grow/bloom that achieves almost the same results as AN's Master grow mix; this claim comes from Advanced Nutrients...no mixing I guess and you have all you need for entire grow. Now I haven't tried it yet but, I trust AN...or you could get 3-part and additives...either way I will teach you the basic hydro if you want to learn. you need about 50-60 bucks to get started nutrients, grow medium, netpots, airpumps and stones and hose...and I can have you in bubbler heaven in a matter of 2-3 hours of handywork...latewood

come on late wood lets hear it

Hey latewood.

Do you think its possible to yield 2lbs a plant off a soil grow.
The reason I do not grow hydro is because good setups to have a high yield is expensive.
If you feel like teaching me your ways, Id be glad to learn, even more from you.
I have seen a couple of hydro grows on this site that require maybe 100$ at the max.
For right now I am going to grow soil and TRY to bush my girls out so much so I can get a good yield.
Until that yield is harvested if you feel like teaching me, I will grab my pen and paper and get down to buisness.
If you got a email I can reach you @ please post here and I will get back to you ASAP.

Turtle : I was just reading over the page 1 and I picked up on something that shouldnt have been said. You alienated 1 person, have you ever heard of the asying Dont judge a book by its cover? He could have been right, he could have been wrong. I know to this day that Zandor is not an unkowledgable guy when it comes to botany and growing the great mariujana, I repsect him

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Turtle : I was just reading over the page 1 and I picked up on something that shouldnt have been said. You alienated 1 person, have you ever heard of the asying Dont judge a book by its cover? He could have been right, he could have been wrong. I know to this day that Zandor is not an unkowledgable guy when it comes to botany and growing the great mariujana, I repsect him

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Hey Joel,

:) Hope you're doing good.

Hey, as for what you said above... what do you mean?

I consider my self not to be an asshole, and I would like to keep on thinking about my self along those lines... I wouldn't want people to perceive me like a dickhead that thinks he knows everything...

As to judging a book by its cover, I guess you're refering to the "GrowerGuyWannaBe"... right?

I meant no offense to anyone.

Peace in the world and to everyone. :)

As Garden says, I love you (errr.... more or less).

Joel, best to you,

-turtle420 :cool:

Hey turtle.
I am doing good, thanks.
I ment no offense man, so please do not take any as I did not mean to put it that way.

You answerd your own question :)

Ok, then we're cool. :)

As to the GrowerGuyWannaBe... my bad. Peace... sorry.

Joel! Thanks for helping out ;)

I still hope to help each other our as much as possible... :)

hey dude, can you send me an eMail when possible to ineedit06 at hushmail.com ?

If you want, write nothing in the eMail.... I'll reply when I get it. :)

Laters,

-turtle420 :cool:

PS: No offense taken! :D