dissociation depersonalization disorder

I don't know if you read any of my complaining threads on here, but I think I know why I've been so dizzy & everything's been so weird for the past 3 weeks....

For one thing, I want to know if this is supposed to happen when you smoke. I don't know because it's only happened the past couple of times out of the year I've been smoking. It feels like everything is a dream, like what happens when you fall asleep when the TV is on then wake up & they're moving weird, is how I can describe it.
Second of all,
For some reason I looked on the DSM-IV & saw depersonalization disorder: http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/di.../depersdis.htm
This firsttime it happened (if you'll kindly read the link) back in 7th grade for maybe 30 seconds and it scared the shit out of me. It happened a couple of times after that, mostly while I was on DXM.
But about 3 weeks ago, it started again, only for longer periods of time, and every day now too. It's mostly in the mornings but it goes through the day on and off a lot too. Some days it's worse than usual, mostly after I've smoked ANYTHING the day before (maybe it has to do with blood pressure or lack of oxygen, I don't know.)...It's also more noticeable when I'm around a lot of people or if I'm outside when it just starts getting dark.
I can't even smoke a cigarette now or it gets a lot worse for a couple of minutes & my heart rate gets faster which I'm sure isn't making it any better.
I read it can be caused by the "onset of the use of marijuana", which would make sense if it started a year ago when I started, but it started happening every day 3 weeks ago when I bought some from someone else (who I knew)
I don't know if that might be causing it, but I REALLY don't like it cause I don't want to take any drugs till it stops, and it doesn't look like it will stop soon.

Some people I know are going to say "thats so cool i wish it would happen to me". No, you don't. It's fun for a while, sure, but when you really have to be doing something it's not fun at ALL, and after weeks of it you just want it to stop already.

Does this happen to anyone else? IS that what's going on here? And most importantly, Is it permanent?
thanks
laura


if you know anything about if IM me at atreeisme cause i really want to know about this, it's annoying as hell after 3 weeks.

Do i look like a doctor? :confused:

sounds like an alergic reaction. Try taking a benadryl before you smoke see if that helps.
How old are you by the way?

14

It started happening every day now, without any drugs. I stopped for a week or 2 now & i still get it.

Here's some things I found on dissociative disorders (including multiple personalitity). Let me know if I'm way off base.

Diagnosis:
Anxiey [severe/panic]/Fear may be related to maladaption to ineffective coping continuing from early life, unconscious conflict(s), threat to self-concept, unmet needs, or phobic stimulus, possibly evidenced by maladaptive response to stress (e.g., dissociating self/fragmentation of the personality), increased tension, feelings of inadequacy, and focus on self, projection of personal perception onto the environment.
Violence, risk for, directed at self/others: risk factors may include depressed mood, dissociative state/conflicting personalities, panic states, and suicidal/homicidal behaviors.
Personal identity disturbance may be related to psychologic conflicts (dissociative state), childhood trauma/abuse, threat to physical integrity/self-concept, and underdeveloped ego, possibly evidenced by alteration in perception or experience of self, loss of one's own sense of reality/the external world, poorly differentiated ego boundaries, confusion about sense of self, purpose or direction in life, memory loss, presence of more than one personality within the individual.
Family Coping, ineffective: compromised may be related to multiple stressors repeated over time, prolonged progression of disorder that exhausts the supporive capacity of significant people, family disorganization and role changes, possibly evidenced by family/significant other describing inadequate understanding or knowledge that interferes with effective assistive or supportive behaviors, and relationship/marital conflict.

Let me know what you need, I have medical books.

Hmm, when I bought from this guy I barely knew a few times, after a while I started having panic attacks. I went to to doctor and was diagnosed with Panic Anxiety Disorder. I decided to quit drugs for a few months and see if that did anything, and sure enough it did. Plus, over the Summer, I worked on a farm with my step-dad. I would have to say manual labor helps mental health for some reason. I used to worry so much just about everything and fear that someone put something in my food, but after 2 months of hard manual labor, it just stopped. I don't know... Now I smoke regularly again. But my source is good and trustworthy. And I haven't had a panic attack in about... 7 months, it feels great. I'd say, give it some time and see what happens.

1st post :)

It might not have to do with drugs...
go see a doctor

genik welcome to this crazy place

Depersonalization is a disorder that more commonly comes from abuse of PCP or formeldahyde (sp). But I suppose it's possible that is came from weed or DXM. Just ditch every drug for a while and see how it goes.

Yes, i had it for 2 weeks a wile back. It goes away. I had about 2 boxes of graval and countless tynol. it is toaly fucked.

what it is, is Anxiey, just Anxiey. Do you have Obsessive compulsive disorder by any chance?

dont let it controll you, its all in your head!

this is my post in the matter: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...ersonalization

i just started thinking today maybe it is anxiety. i've been having these kinds of problems since 7th grade, but not as bad as it has been recently. I should have mentioned i have this intense phobia of becoming insane.
I had this terrible fucked experience when I was at the mall with my friend today. We were walking and when i looked at the floor it looked like the tiles were moving in frames & when i looked up I got dizzy. Then me, my friend, and my sister went into hot topic, not a good place for having anxiety attacks. I was getting so claustrophobic & i thought i was going to die or something. I tried to calm down but I was getting so dizzy & everything felt unreal again & i thought "not AGAIN". Then when we got out of there it got bad again cause the mall was too OPEN now.
I'm getting so tired of this.

yeah i wouldn't think its completley drug related- cuz i think i totally get what your saying.
Lately I've been kind of freaking out cuz I have been smoking a good amount lately and started in april. I was worried when i became disassociated it was all cuz the weed- and then later when id have mood swings it'd be part of it. I always thought that anxiety type symptoms are normal and just now I realize i don't have to deal with it. It SUCKS. Ever since I was little- and then had traumatic experiences id rather not say or dwell on-i would just kind of drift off and reality is always like a dream to me. With panic attacks u just gotta try to take deep breaths and make yourself do things that will make u feel in tune with reality. I actually get by okay but i just realized i might even have a problem, u just don't want those kinds of things to get too much worse.

but what is normal? there's no such thing as normal.
thinking drives me nuts!:-X
I feel like thinking too much is what can drive one insane- but really what is there u can do?

Oh but also last night i smoked a shit load and i started getting really paranoid about like what i was thinking cuz it felt like i forgot everything and felt like i should have been doing something but wasn't. In a way disassociation is appealing and almost a relief but u dont want to get too lost in those thoughts...dream...w/e.
Hope u can figure it out!

i think i have that disorder, its not really a bad thing but it makes it hard for me to be social. sometimes it feels like life is a dream and can't really remember my past, (like Bob Dylan explained in that documentary about him ages ago).

I have an OCD. I'm obsessively compulsively awesome.

I had it before I started to smoke, but once I started I started having panic attacks. I smoked for a long time, but finally stopped because I was always having panic attacks. That was about 4 years ago and I still feel like I'm stoned everyday. It has never gone away, sometimes it is worse and I have panic attacks because of it. I have been seeing a therapist for a very long time, for various other disorders, but now I am starting treatment for Depersonalization.
I do agree with you, when I tell my stoner friends about it they say, "You are so lucky! That sounds like so much fun!" NO! IT ISN'T. It is often scary and dibilitating. I no longer do any drugs, mainly because I can't without feeling like I am even more out of it and then have a panic attack. I amalso learning to simply deal with it in everyday life so I can go into Wal-Mart without feeling like I am blown out, freaking out, panicing and running out of the store. I have learned to deal with the fact that this is just how my brain sees the world. I might get used to it, but I don't think it will ever change

that makes me feel worse heh :(
i hope it goes away, every day i regret whatever i did to start it

Don't worry about it whenever i smoke the next day i feel like im still high except without the giggiling and red eye etc. It usually happens other days when i haven't smoked in awhile but i kinda ignore it, does it feel like you zone out sometimes for no reason like you aren't really you? If so this has been happening to me when ill think about things like what is life or something really deep or even if im going outside in daylight ill get a zoning out feeling. I think it may be the MJ but i dont smoke it too often maybe 2-3 times a week, if im lucky, just forgt about it keep telling yourself that its really you and you actually exist and you aren't somebody else's dream or your dream like in tha matrix. It will stop or you wont notice it eventually. How often do you smoke and how old are you? It may be because you feel guilty or paranoid even when your sober from doing drugs, i feel this way sometimes but thats what usually causes it for me or like I said earlier when im thinkinh of some thing really deep. Well i hope i helped if it doesn't stop or you want to talk about just PM me.

Depersonalization disorder from weed? I don't think so... it's was DXM if anything. Depersonalization is what IT does.

PS: You're probably thinking about it too much.

i think you guys are parinoid.... and worrying dosen't help anything it just whips you outa shape

I have an OCD. I'm obsessively compulsively awesome.

Lateralus you made my night with that one. hahaha

it does feel like im high all the time like Vis4lovers said. he/she got it almost exactly right.
Like today, in the morning, i kept losing balance & felt outside myself, then in the afternoon, i was less dissociated, and i thought everything was funny. kind of like dxm (which i miss as you can maybe tell by now). weird thing is i kept smelling pot everywhere in the afternoon haha

When you have bud.. does it.. talk to you? Tell you things?

My sister is a hypochondriac. She always gets random disorders that go away in a couple weeks, has regular panic attacks, and won't so much as sit in the room when I'm smoking weed because even the second hand smoke makes her feel funny. I'm not saying this is the case, but there's a certain type of person ((like my sister)) who see's that certain things exist and suddenly gets them.

I told her about restless leg syndrome which she'd never heard of, and two weeks later she's trying to get medication for it. The doctors know her though so she never gets anything except xanax, which she refuses to take more then .25mg of otherwise she gets scared that she's going to die and thinks her breathing is getting shallow and all sorts of stuff.

The mind is powerful. If you keep thinking about the possibility of restless legs while you're laying down and focusing on your legs, odds are your legs are gonna get restless.

Don't take offense to any of this. I don't know the situation except what you've told me of it. I'm just trying to give some possible input other then "You're probably crazy, stop taking drugs and see a doctor."

i was ok today, probably cause i didnt think about it so much. i can't seem to stop thinking about it though. everywhere i go, i probably had some kind of panic attack there, so it makes me think of it, its an endless cycle.

try drinking.... ... .. .