Warning! Verbose PreTransplant Jitters Inside.

One Ladyâ??s Story

I know I should buy a book but time is of the essence, folks.

Sheâ??s my sole 53â?� tall survivor from 10 seedlings.
and she needs transplanting from a 2 gal pot to a 5 gal because new plan is to now stay indoors. Not sure but guessing sheâ??s sativa and that the 5 gal is a must.

May try scrogging her over. Numerous tips Iâ??d say.

Why this dilemma?? Household disunity on security advantages messed up best plans. Then my beloved but may soon be ex-mate starts reading of outdoor busts in morning paper. Then she changes her mind back. She still thinks buying is less risky. Workin on that one.

The rootball pictured is from Ladyâ??s late twin brother. He was also raised in a 2 gal pot. Her roots should resemble this, is the point. This morning her late brothers remains underwent this root structure autopsy. Any insights at all appreciated. Iâ??m thinking pretty weak looking

I would like opinions about how much I should, if any, scrape down the sides of her (almost rootless outer edges of) rootball. On her brother, only a few hair roots ever got out to the container. Rest of dirt into the remains you see pictured did not seem to have any visable roots at all.

Having pre-transplant jitters is all.

Also donâ??t feel I mixed enough perlite into the mix for Bro and Sis here. During autopsy He came out of his pot perfectly shiney and cylindrical. Pretty solid. Plan to put more perlite to the mix for Mâ??Ladyâ??s new 5 Gallon Jug planter (painted black and drainage prepped with 1â?�? holes and a crushed granite bed - Check!

But should I try to lose some of outer extremes of the rootball - going with more perlite (and vermiculite?) into the new mix.

Lighting to date:
Six larger sized CFLâ??s and a warmer 3tube flouro desklamp.
24/7 until 12 days ago.
Since then, 17/7.

For this year may just stay with these.
Considering a less tall flowering box - thinking bending her over an 18â?� radius - do a makeshift single plant screen for her and the get info on how much height she will need while flowering in that position.

Thanks to all

See message above for relavance of pics.

Hmphph.

It's a simple question people.

If I scratch soil from the 2 gallon pot rootball, will i be damaging any root development that is not visible to the naked eye.

You don't scrape any soil off the root ball. You take the whole thing and plant it in another container. The less you mess with the roots the better.

i heard shock to the roots of any plant can cause irreversible damage, thats why you cant replant a tree thats fallen over and its roots are torn but thats only when loads of the roots are fucked, you should be ok if you do that the other person said.

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Originally Posted by Rezinator

Hmphph.

It's a simple question people.

If I scratch soil from the 2 gallon pot rootball, will i be damaging any root development that is not visible to the naked eye.

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Yes, you will. Don't touch the roots, remove dirt from the roots, or have any contact with them at all. You are suppose to to transplant with the dirt clump and all. You should have just pulled the whole dirt clump out, in one piece, and transplanted it. Now you have disturbed the roots, big time, by the looks of it, and now they are going to go through some hardcore shock.

Good luck :cool:

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Originally Posted by theStingyStoner

i heard shock to the roots of any plant can cause irreversible damage, thats why you cant replant a tree thats fallen over and its roots are torn but thats only when loads of the roots are fucked, you should be ok if you do that the other person said.

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Sorry buddy but uh if a tree falls over, it will keep growing because it has only broke 1/2 half threw or 3/4 threw, yet leaving the roots to continue growth in the ground unless root damage. Shocking the plant(roots) wouldnt kill it, it wouldnt grow for a while but you could keep it alive just by feeding it water everyday. My plants went into shock when we moved them out of my house due to police threats, and then moved them back in, I didnt feed them any nutes except water for a while.

Rezinator: Dont scratch the soil off your roots, just replant it and give the new soil in the new pot a good watering. What do you mean your only survivor from 10? What in the hell happend man=[.

ah ok twas just what i heard from some old man

I "think" what Rezinator was asking....

When transplanting plants, yes, you can take the outter roots and "RIP" them open, or "TEAR" them apart on the outside surface.

THis practice, in theory, exposes roots tips that have become ingrown or otherwise "locked in" to new soil medium and thus accelerate the transition to the new soil.

THis is a very common and effective technique used by many 'old-timers' who garden.

I do this very thing to my garden plants......

I take them out of the container and literally RIP APART the OUTTER and BOTTOM roots...not rip them OFF, but aggressively rip them open......

I do this to small plants or small yard trees that I grow...every season.

It does work.

But i have never done this to MJ. Nor would I ever.

I just dont have the balls to risk it :)

If a little flower plant dies, I just get a new one.

If an MJ plant dies, a part of me dies as well :)

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Originally Posted by HARDDON

If a little flower plant dies, I just get a new one.

If an MJ plant dies, a part of me dies as well :)

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aaawwww....that was so fucken sweet Harddon....lol.

Check out the Mouth on that girl!!

Harddon - thanks for fessing that even you have to weigh the risk factor.
The crap of it is -- btw, roots pictured were her Brother's guys -
She's still in her pot (Sund noon) --
Crap of it is at this age, a few (feeder??) roots had made it down
and were showing around the bottom circumference. I did not trace those back
during my little autopsy.

Lol, Like as if a butcher job like her bro's disection would fly.

!!!IMPORTANT!!!

!!!DO NOT STRIP ROOTS LIKE ABOVE FOR FEMALE PLANTS
OR ANY PLANTS YOU WANT TO MATURE!!!

I will not scrape root ball at all. Bottom of
root ball will be flat - good because less apt to rock around
in new looser soil recompression, Any rocking or rolling could snap
whatever roots develop from here forward.

Mark Benson - Did you say on another thread you had done a
single plant scrog?? Could you name some good threads? tks. also for
weighing in on not scraping. Check. Had forgot to mention the
bounded lower perimeter roots - very few but - could have been
outermost of brotherplant's main feeder roots for all I know.

Thanks, TthStingyStoner, Nochouderforyou.

Joel: The 8 other seedlings went into 2 litre bottles. Didn't read til later
that you need to cover the clear plastic - to keep roots in darkness.
Actually could see roots recede on a couple of those.

4 others got abandoned in wild when a beaver ruckus near my
well hidden kayak 85' away made it sound, at least through brush
and trees anyway, like someone was grabbing the kayak.
Just enough to get me thinking what if....y'know. Also learned
small shovel wasn't the best for diggin in dense watershed silt.

Indoor 4 - 2 litre seedlings went yellow. The one I didn't trash is in pic above.
Hasn't sexed yet. Growth went to zero. Very yellow. It was also my
first only branching prune so waiting to see what nutes will
do

Have to make a grow box then go 12/12. Gotta go do single plant scrog research.

MB - Harddon - let me know if I should start another thread about my scrogging plan?

Thanks to all.

Thanks to whoever said not to fert right away.

Thanks again for transplanting support.

Mark Benson - and whoever reads

My plant is too tall for conventional scrogging as per what I have seen so far.

Need to ask questions like how much vertical space is needed
after screen is used to set the beginning canopy height.

Need this info to design lowest profile grow box possible.
Want to stay around 5' for the scrogging box height if possible.
Best Canopy to Lights distance also appreciated.

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Originally Posted by HARDDON

I "think" what Rezinator was asking....

When transplanting plants, yes, you can take the outter roots and "RIP" them open, or "TEAR" them apart on the outside surface.

THis practice, in theory, exposes roots tips that have become ingrown or otherwise "locked in" to new soil medium and thus accelerate the transition to the new soil.

THis is a very common and effective technique used by many 'old-timers' who garden.

I do this very thing to my garden plants......

I take them out of the container and literally RIP APART the OUTTER and BOTTOM roots...not rip them OFF, but aggressively rip them open......

I do this to small plants or small yard trees that I grow...every season.

It does work.

But i have never done this to MJ. Nor would I ever.

I just dont have the balls to risk it :)

If a little flower plant dies, I just get a new one.

If an MJ plant dies, a part of me dies as well :)

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Yes when ever I transplant into a bigger pot,I scrape a little at the sides of the root ball breaking some root tissue,which enhances growth for the new soil,kinda gives the roots a new end tip,alot of the roots grow inwards after awhile by breaking or scraping slightly along the side of the root ball exsposes more ends,which now become root tips...it works for me!....

Guys, MellowMan,

Thanks to all.

Harddon, read new thread on root balls. But to wrap this up am going to ease this baby into a 5 gal - smile - right - because that's been drummed into my head and that's what's hanging around.

Unless the 2 gallon root ball has roots like in Harddon's root ball thread I will scratch in a little but not anywhere I see where roots had gone out to edge of pot.

Am deciding this because I didn't fertilize at all yet and I had not laid in nearly enough perlite = dense root ball - so want to give the roots some room and better oxygen - etc - as much as possible while she's flowers -

It'll be a mock (since a little late for radical bending) scrog of sorts. Will get into the posting pics thing when it's looking respectable. xx xx << my fingers crossed -- not kisses.

Oh what the heck okay hugs and kisses all around, what the hell....