http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm
Messed up shit! We're definitely feeling the blow from this war now. :(
What I don't get is why the officers bundled the guy to the ground and THEN shot him after. Why not arrest him and find links, etc?
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Messed up shit! We're definitely feeling the blow from this war now. :(
What I don't get is why the officers bundled the guy to the ground and THEN shot him after. Why not arrest him and find links, etc?
I suppose they could have waited for ol' boy to detonate the explosives first. Wouldn't want to infringe on his rights! BANG, BANG and another terrorist gone! :D
Apparently it was a number of officers that piled on top of him.
Your probably right anyway.
I wonder when America will start paying for the war.
I thought 9-11.....................OH YAH, our government did that...guess we still got one coming! :rolleyes:
Howdy BB,Quote:
Originally Posted by Button Basher
Tsk..tsk..you should be ashamed of asking when will America start paying for the war..if yer talkin about money,no one has out-spent the US,if yer talking about blood,we started with over 3000 folks,from countries all around the world,on 9/11/01,and we've been paying in blood since and we will continue to pay in blood..until your country is safe..but when you have idiots like the mayor of London,who gives out peace awards to those who clamor for the deaths of British citizens..yer kinda taking 2 steps back. When the BBC,uses only 3 minutes of air time,to report yesterday's incident..yer takin 2 steps back. Do ya see my point ? You're gonna have to start taking the threat of terrorism more seriously..and start calling terrorists..terrorists,instead of freedom fighters and bombers.
Congratulations..you've just managed to piss on the graves of every American soldier,who has died in order to protect your country..are ya proud of yerself ?
Have a good one....
im going to go with psycho on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
BUT it does set a disturbing precedent. it's the same thing going on iraq now.
see some kid by a checkpoint playing ball, BANG. "whoops...i thought he was an insurgent...all in the name of freedom...no harm done"
I don't know of a beter solution other than to fix the problem. by leaving iraq. :mad:
yeh, considering the fear being hyped up. "it's not a matter of if...but when"Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
what the fuck is that? instead of solving everything, people are just sitting back waiting for the explosions like christians eager for the rapture. i fear the end is near.
Uh-oh, Torog put me in my place.
Sorry man, that was harsh, talking about when you guys are gonna start paying. For once, I think your 100% right. I let my frustration get the better of me again. Sorry about that!
Just so you know, we have a BBC news network (much like your CNN) that has been airing information on the incident since it happened. I don't know anything about the mayor of London though, care to source?
I believe this country should start taking terrorism more seriously, now that it is finally an issue. Do you care to remember that before the tube bombings a couple weeks ago, Britain hadn't suffered any kind of serious terrorist attack in relation to the war in Iraq.
I still believe (as a report recently confirmed) that we wouldn't be getting these attacks had we not agreed to help the US with it's dirty work, but following what's happened, I believe thats beside the issue.
The problem is we're a very small country with a very small capital. An easy target for the extremists (which it now turns out there is no shortage of on our homeland, however the fuck that happened). I think, in the long run, we may come to suffer at the hands of this war a lot more then you guys.
Apologies again. Have a good one yourself!
My sentiments exactly, but here lies the dilemma. In this ridiculous world where preserving face takes priority over all, our leaders would much rather continue the bloodshed in the veign hope everything will blossom into roses once the last bomb falls.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
Stupid fucks. Pull out the troops (Iraq has it's government) and I guarantee the dust will settle, if at least for a little while.
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Originally Posted by Button Basher
but the oil will flow in the wrong direction. oil we dont even really need, mind you.
Howdy BB,Quote:
Originally Posted by Button Basher
Apology accepted :)
I'll see if I can find a story about Mayor Livingstone,giving the peace award to that there muslim cleric that's inciteing violence,I can't recall his name at the moment,he's the one that's been in the news alot and may even have been resposible for inciting the terrorist cell to attack on July 7th and yesterday.
Whether you like it or not..y'all do believe in Freedom and if you want to keep it,you ain't got much choice,but to defend it..that means you should'nt git hung up over whether or not that you're gittin attacked,because we're allies..rather,you should understand that y'all are defending the ideals of Freedom..that the entire Free World believes in and cherishes.
This is everyone's fight..and if it be God's Will and due to our vigilance and resolve..we will win.
Have a good one !
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Originally Posted by Button Basher
start?
wtf?
US military personnel killed
1,764 .
what ya mean start paying for this war.
our troops die almost everyday,
can almost detect a hint of wish we would get blown up tone from you?
i may be wrong if so im sorry
but i for one resent what that implied
as if america gets a free pass or some shit
it dont we pay dearly
some pay with it all
Cheers mate :D !Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
Abu Hamza?Quote:
I'll see if I can find a story about Mayor Livingstone,giving the peace award to that there muslim cleric that's inciteing violence,I can't recall his name at the moment,he's the one that's been in the news alot and may even have been resposible for inciting the terrorist cell to attack on July 7th and yesterday.
I don't recall him being given a peace award. I think that's a pretty ridiculous statement, considering every Briton in the whole country knows he's a hateful bastard (yet we let him stay in the country anyway, we're too polite you see).
He's being trialed on terrorism (chargeshttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4652693.stm). Do you mind if I ask where you heard he was given a peace award? If it was a buddy of yours, let him know he's a moron. ;)
Yipper, when the shit gets thick we should run like cowards! Bet ya wanted Kerry to win! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Button Basher
Iraq does have its own govenment and the way it sounds the military will be able to handle the situation in 2006...then what'll be the next excuse for the terrorists?
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Originally Posted by Torog
It's a fight that we started torog.
we arent defending ourselves. we're defending a defense.
You talk as if this was some incident where we innocently had nothing to do with other people wanting to attack north america.
Torog, dont be offended but I dont think you're really thinking about the welfare of every soldier fighting this war. I say this because you'd rather defend an ideal than stand up and say that what is being done is wrong.
9/11...Bush lied...condi lied...rumsfeld lied...hell ill just say the B.A. from now on.
WMD....B.A. Lied
Iraqi terrorists...B.A. LIED
Karl Rove...Bush Lied
I mean, just to save face you'd rather throw thousands of more troops at iraq than try to make up for the 1800 already dead.
Answer me this, torog. Do you think any of my above statements are false? If so, which one/ones?
And if not, then the only answer left is that every despicable thing that has happened is justified, since we're "spreading freedom". You honestly believe that even though we were lied to, it's okay because some iraqi woman gets to vote?
C'mon man. talk some shit with me.
Even pisshead thought we should have removed Saddam....or in his EXACT words,"it's something we had to do for over a decade".
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I don't give a shite about Kerry. He looked as much a knob-jockey as Bush.Quote:
Bet ya wanted Kerry to win
That's the kind of thinking i'm talking about. I think it's a perfectly rational concept to pull the troops out (considering they don't actually need to be there) so the attacks stop. I'm not a wimp (you could say that about anyone not in the services), i'm just a thinker. People will keep dying in my country while the government persist with their ridiculous eye-for-an-eye philosophy of which doesn't actually apply to us AT ALL (at least it didn't before the 7th).Quote:
Yipper, when the shit gets thick we should run like cowards!
It's different for you guys, 9/11 was a big piss in the face and you deserve to get your own back (let's assume that's what this is about ;) ). Whatever the cause, it'll spiral out of control and keep on spiralling until some fundamentalist Christian in office decides to bring about the apocalypse themself. You know they can't wait for it.
That's what you've been told. I'll bet you all the Dinar's in the world Bush will be sacrificing the lives of good-hearted Americans and Britons for as long as he possibly can. Do you understand how much money he's making from this shitstorm. He's laughing in your face and you love him for it.Quote:
Iraq does have its own govenment and the way it sounds the military will be able to handle the situation in 2006...then what'll be the next excuse for the terrorists?
As pisshead said (although i'm aware how little his word means to you): There is no 'politics'. There is only greed and corruption. (Did I even get that right? :confused: :p)
Anyway, we're a lot more vulnerable than you. You've got nothing to worry about and I don't blame you for basking in that luxury.
I'm not disagreeing with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Let's look at it from a stoner's point of view.
You have some weed...do you rush and jam that weed into whatever youre smoking and let huge chunks fall out and get lost and not roll/pack it properly?
Sure, in the end you'd technically be smoking weed but is the end result as fulfilling or as good as taking a good hard look and formulating a strategy in your head to pack/roll it the right way?
It's the same way with the invasion. Noone here has said that they wouldnt want to go to war if they had to...HAD to. Show me some evidence that it was a top priority to invade iraq. You can't. All you can show me is some propaganda bullshit dedicated to pulling at heartstrings instead of actual facts.
Tell me psycho, why are we in iraq? Can you tell me that iraq was the best decision for all people? Was iraq more dangerous to american sovereignty than china or north korea?
Been there, done that...guess we should have let ol' boy and his buds the French, Germany, China and Russia all have their fun! :rolleyes:
Why do you keep running away from my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Why are we in iraq?
i work in a tv station...the first reports we saw coming off the wire was it was a guy running onto a train...probably because he was late. then the cops shot him.
but it doesn't really matter what happens...it can be blamed on al-qaeda and that's enough for some people.
you have a better chance of being hit by lightning twice than dying from a terrorist act...but oh my god! we need to lock down cities and have millions more cops with black masks and military searching people and no 4th amendment!!! hurry, we're all going to die from the terrorists if we don't destroy the republic.
maybe we need a lightning act...to protect us all from lightning. we can be forced to stay in our homes and get cps visits so the lightning doesn't get us.
17 U.N. resolutions that Saddam threw the finger at. To bad the French and friends were in bed with the asshole. Ask Pisshead, he stated that Saddam needed to be removed...maybe he can explain it better to ya! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
oh, you just want to use the u.n. defense?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
i guess that's fine if you want to ignore israel, the country with the most resolutions.
i never said i agreed with not removing saddam. but i dont want anyone going in guns-a-blazing with no plan of action. and shit, i dont care if we were flying up to heaven to liberate angels from satanic terrorists. when you lie about it, youve lost my trust and my respect. two things you want your wing-man to have if you're both in the trenches.
But i feel that i have to say this.....america is paying only the ''interest'' now that is losing on average 5 soldiers every day, the main ''capital'' has not been paid yet.....9/11 was just the beginning....can't you feel that?Quote:
Originally Posted by NowhereMan
Or did you think that you are safe?
Can't you see that you're going to suffer bigger loses than these you expect?
Did you expect the planes to fall to the towers? I don't think so!!!
Not in my wildest dream this would ever happen.....and the ''funny'' thing is that YOU the american,canadian,european,indian,african and japanese that reads these lines, can't do anything about it, nothing can change that....you, we are just going to read it on the papers and watch it happen....
NGOS:)
PS. i can't really see any other benefit of the americans to the world other than Windows-Microsoft.....hahahahaha.....only joking!!!!!!!!!!
PS2. enjoy your ''free'' life while you still can!
If I want to ignore Israel! If it were up to me we would have set them on their own a LONG time ago. Like Iraq, there is NO respect for resolutions but heaven forbid we pick on them. HYPOCRITS!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
And don't give me this plan of action crap, the other U.N. powers; France, Germany, Russia, China could really have gave a crap less just as long as THEIR self interests weren't touched! Face it dude, the U.S. isn't the only dirty power in the world, we just have the most intimidating toys!
You really think Niceragua, Russia, India, and China really care about Venezualla, HELL NO. It's about the damn oil....just like the good ol' U.S.A.!
How am i a hypocrite. if anything, youre the hypocrite because you'd rather spread freedom to people that cant fight instead of opposing the ones that can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Of course it's about the oil. That's the point. they signed onto the alliance to share the resources with those other countries. in the event that the resource was threatened, they promised to intervene.
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Originally Posted by Torog
I prefer to shit on the graves of those baby killers. America asked for 9-11. You havent paid for iraq yet, not even close
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Originally Posted by Torog
Freedom is just a word dumb folk use as an answer to why you are killing people, did ya git that? Making them free, stealing their oil, all the same!
I didn't call you a hypocrit...the fucks in the U.N. that turn their heads at their own leisure!Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
"in the event that the resource was threatened, they promised to intervene." If you would be so kind as to point out in the link where it states that one! :rolleyes:
Well dumb ass, I guess the best part of you dripped between the crack of your mommas ass during birth and left a lil' brown stain on the sheet! Hope they saved the part with the brain!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by potpimp
Well I just don't understand why the Britain Police would take such an action when they don't know the full story!WTF is going on! And in regards to the Iraq war I have always thought from day one that it was the wrong,illegal thing to do be doing.I mean do you really think it worth all these soilders lives both the Brits,Yanks,Aussies and anyone else participating.And lets not forget the Iraqi people how many people have they lost hey????? :mad: And for fucking what in the end?
:confused: :mad: :(
A mate of mine was stood in the station as that blooke got shot. He's really REALLY shaken up - Its really not a good thing to see someone get shot. As it was, he was under the impression (and this is a primary witness remember) that the chap that ran ran becuase his coat was so full of SOMETHING that he didn't want the coppers to get a hold of him.
Has aanyone seen the weather in the UK recently? Its been nice -really hot. This guy was going into the underground (typically hot and clammy) in a massive winter coat.
Now if the polive had intelligence on this, the simple matter is THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BROADCAST IT. However I'm sure that once they've confirmed something, they'll le be known wwhy they pumped an alleged 5 rounds into this guy.
Incidently, everyone was cleared from the station and could not (apparenntly) get a view of the body, it got totall covered off by the plain cloths police dudes
what the fuck dude, when will we start to pay for it? how fucking blind/stupid can you be. You dont deserve an answer to that question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Button Basher
why does it take events like this to make other countries open their fucking eyes...ignorance is not bliss in this situation.
and once again i see that you know dick about the actual situation in iraq.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
leaving iraq right now would cause even more problems than we have now,it would help nothing until their own fucking police can do the jobs that they have.
If you actually think that by leaving iraq, we will somehow get rid of terrorism, youre dead fucking wrong.
yeah theres a rational thought nich, when you hear the pop youll know your head is out of your ass my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
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Originally Posted by potpimp
Fucking rot in hell you worthless piece of shit. Assholes like you should be fucking shot on sight. Im not a fucking baby killer, neither were any of my squad members...you wanna shit on my grave?...they wouldnt let your fucking worthless ass into arlington to even give you the chance. If youre an american, i hope your fucking ass gets drafted if they ever impose that...then maybe you can see how the other half lives while you sit in mommies house and make fucking pathetic, worthless, and overall disgusting posts like you have.
I cant even honestly express how fucking pissed off i am after reading what you wrote...if you were attempting to get a rise out of people in these forums you most deff got one out of me...i think you and i should talk in person.
Plain and simple you fucking douchebag...FUCK OFF AND DIE. If i knew you, id most likely kick the living shit out of your fucking worthless ass.
Howdy BB,Quote:
Originally Posted by Button Basher
I had the wrong cleric...
Mayor justifies cleric's welcome
Ken Livingstone has justified his decision to welcome a controversial Muslim cleric to London last year.
Egyptian-born Yusuf Al-Qaradawi has been criticised for condoning suicide bombings and having anti-Semitic and homophobic views.
The Mayor of London acknowledged that he and the cleric would not see eye-to-eye on Lesbian and Gay views.
But he said engaging with Dr Qaradawi would help enhance relations between the West and the Muslim religion.
Mr Livingstone told a press conference on Tuesday: "When you get a progressive figure who is moving that religion in the correct direction you engage and you develop it.
'Engage with cleric'
"And I don't agree with the position of Dr Qaradawi on lesbian and gay rights.
"As I said before we won't be seeing him on the next Pride march but here is the force that we need to engage with if we are to actually get a dialogue between the west and the Muslim world."
Mr Livingstone caused controversy when he embraced the cleric at a meeting in City Hall in July.
Leader of the London Assembly Conservatives Bob Neill condemned Mr Livingstone's support for the cleric. He said: "He is the type of man Mr Livingstone should, like us, be condemning not cosying up to. It's utterly unacceptable."
As you can see...I was talking about the wrong cleric,still,all the good buddy bullshit,didn't stop London from being attacked and Livingstone should not be cosying up to them preachers of hate and violence. I did the search at BBC,and found out that the mayor is most likely anti-semetic and he's said alot of bad things about President Bush and America. Y'all need to kick Livingstone to the curb,I think that his be-friending of radical muslim clerics,is just gonna cause more attacks..not less,plus his comments about President Bush,America and Americans..is driving away American tourists.
Have a good one ....
calm your ass down right there buddy. you seem to be the one running around dickless. you support the troops? don't make me laugh. you couldnt care less.Quote:
Originally Posted by makor01
from your posts it suggests you were "supporting" the troops all through when we were lied to about 9/11....the WMD lies.....the iraqi terrorist lies...through it all.
you just dont have the balls to tell the government "enough is enough". everyday we get new evidence making pre-determined war the most likely scenario of what happened. you're just scared of being the odd man out, you dont want people to jeer at YOU and that's what makes you afraid.
you're so scared of seeing other people with enough strength to stand up, and so you get pissed. you tell me that this whole war wasnt a bed of lies...you fucking tell me that. i'll flood you with so many links and credible sources , i'll make pisshead look like a every now and then poster.
you've been spoon-fed this bullshit about destablising the country if the troops left. the COUNTRY IS ALREADY DESTABILISED! THE GOVERNMENT HAD ASKED THE U.S. TO LEAVE WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A NEW TROOP WITHDRAWAL TIMETABLE!!!!!
The whole POINT of an insurgency in ANY country is to provide a last line of defense on the homeland to REPEL INVADERS. IF THERE WERE NO FOREIGN SOLDIERS THEN THERE WOULD BE NO INSURGENCY!!
Jesus christ, why do you americans have this fantasy that you're the last straw holding everything in place. you guys went in and fucked everything up in the first place. and i dont want anyone coming with "we had a coalition" bullshit. you obviously have NO IDEA how foreign policy works. the only reason most countries sent troops was to not disturb their economic relationship with the u.s. NOT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN SPREADING HYPOCRITICAL FREEDOM.
assholes. arrogant fucking assholes.
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Originally Posted by makor01
how is that irrational? obviously you only smoke to get high like some stupid kid. some of us actually use it to open up our minds.
You will never stop amazing me. Do you see this crap in a dream or read it on pissplanet? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
"assholes. arrogant fucking assholes" coming from you....well thats a BIG compliment!!! :D