Thought.

When (if) mankind ever truely discovers the answer to the question of whether there is some kind of god or not, and we finally know which, if any, of the religions are right, I think we'll then shrug our shoulders and say "Now what?". Whatever way you look at it, it won't actually make the slightest bit of difference to our lives. I mean, if you think about when people are having a conversation and somebody says something that another person disagrees with and neither of them will admit they're wrong until one person is proved right, but when either party is proved right both parties then just forget about it - this is what will happen. We'll go on about our normal lives - alot of people will undoubtedly try and change the way the world is run because of it, but in the end life on Earth with settle back down to a slow amble. It'll be like the moment a kid opens his Christmas presents early on Chrisdtmas morning - he's been waiting and anticipating this moment for weeks and when the moment finally passes he's already looking forward to next year.

You could say that this discovery, from both perspectives, could help to stop alot of fighting and war all over the planet, but really alot of people don't like to backdown, so even if it turned out that the Christian idea of what and who god is was right, and that everything they had been saying was true, there would still be millions of people of other faiths who still stick to their beliefs despite the proof. By the way, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying any of this is going to happen... i'm just very stoned and rambling on but it's cool, I think I can remember my point.

So, if you take all this in to consideration, what is the point in arguing about who's right or who's not? Who cares about the answer when the question doesn't matter? Why can't we all just accept that we're all going to have different views on squillions of things, so we should all just chill and not stress so much.

that's deep ghost,atlantis deep

That is so true...To me religion is just a way for people to follow something in their lives. But what if at the end, whatever happens to you after you die is based on your judgements and thoughts as to what it would be like...I mean I believe there is something else after I die...but a lot of people may disagree. But look at it this way...when you were a foetus, in your mothers womb...you were probably thinking...'this is it, this is my life, there is nothing else after this',..but then you are born...what if this life is just another stage and there is 'stage 3'? Weird

well try to think of it this way.......wot was your earliest childhood memory? i can probably remember as far back as deff 5 maybe 4, but i can't remember shit wen i was 1 or 2, even b4 i was born, so i rekon that when you die, t's gunna be like how we all begun, without knowing anything.

and prove me wrong but ya never kno, bcoz of all of us being bought up with a new life and not remembering your past from the beginning, how do you know that you aren't jus living as someone else, ya kno like died and then lived in a womb?

I know what you mean...You know when people have phobia's....like I can't stand people tilting their heads back, I feel like its gonna break or something...I always thought that its probably from a past life that I got my neck broken....oh dear i'm going all morbid!!!!

st0n3r, is that your eye?

Intersting though, GHoST, but your initial statements are somewhat flawed, IMHO. You said what if we prove god's existence, and one of the major religions turns out to be right.

Well, I think that if we ever prove that there's some superior being to humanity, and I don't think that's completely inconceivable, there will be absolutely no way to comprehend it, and we will not realize that one particualr religion is right and all the others wrong, but rather we will discover that ALL religions are both wrong and right at the same time. Of this, I am positive.

We will all agree that we have a limited capacity to understand other human beings, let alone something superior to us. Therefore it would be completely impossible to even begin to understand the purpose, the thought process, or even the possible manifestations of such a being. God is beyond comprehension, and almost nobody understands that.

Once the existence of god is hypothetically proven, we will also realize that each religion probably had some tiny aspect of the truth buried in its lore. Because when you think about all the religions comparatively, there are more similarities than differences. God, Allah, Yahweh, Jehova, Jupiter, Zeus, Buddha, Jesus, and all the other names given to god will probably turn out to be one and the same entity.

This would probably cause a period of war the likes of which have never been seen. Just based on my knowlege of human nature.

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Intersting though, GHoST, but your initial statements are somewhat flawed, IMHO. You said what if we prove god's existence, and one of the major religions turns out to be right.

Well, I think that if we ever prove that there's some superior being to humanity, and I don't think that's completely inconceivable, there will be absolutely no way to comprehend it, and we will not realize that one particualr religion is right and all the others wrong, but rather we will discover that ALL religions are both wrong and right at the same time. Of this, I am positive.

We will all agree that we have a limited capacity to understand other human beings, let alone something superior to us. Therefore it would be completely impossible to even begin to understand the purpose, the thought process, or even the possible manifestations of such a being. God is beyond comprehension, and almost nobody understands that.

Once the existence of god is hypothetically proven, we will also realize that each religion probably had some tiny aspect of the truth buried in its lore. Because when you think about all the religions comparatively, there are more similarities than differences. God, Allah, Yahweh, Jehova, Jupiter, Zeus, Buddha, Jesus, and all the other names given to god will probably turn out to be one and the same entity.

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Well of course. I was just saying that to keep things simple. lol :)

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Well of course. I was just saying that to keep things simple. lol :)

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Okie dokie :D

Very, very good point Ghostoker. Religion to me is just something we believe in to make our existance not seem as lonley or a good excuse to start a war , but all said and done I think that its healthy to have something to believe in, which is far better than not beleiving in anything at all. Me, I believe in this, fuck the bickering, we only live once, lets just be happy and not care about the stupid little things we care about but arent really neccesary at all, and only care about whats truly important to us, survival, family, and friends. :)

Have a nice day.

I think it really depends on the outcome (whether there is a god or not). If there was no god people would value their lives more but if there is than people may just throw their lives away knowing there is an afterlife (depending on the circumstances of death and whether there are rules that have to be followed while youre alive that you have to follow to successfully enter the next phase in existance).

People fear death because they don't understand it and if there was no afterlife than people would fear it more. But ghost is right things would settle to an equilibrium but not before the vast array of turmoil surrounding this issue. I don't see the point in fearing death. If there is really nothing than it's not like we're going ton know about it anyway. But enough rambling, what youv got to keep in mind is that even though there might be an answer to the question (is there a god? etc) there are going to be many interpretations of that answer. I say some things are better left to when theyr meant to be known. There might be a reason why it's so difficult to obtain this answer

I think people are going to find reasons for war. There isnt any problems with religions just the people in them. I agree with creeper, people need something to belive in to give them piece of mind. Not everyone has the same pattern of thought and thats what ultimately decides the future of our civilisation, not the religions (although its a good excuse), not the weapons, but the people the thinking behind these powerful entities (whether it be the people in power of these entities or the public consensus)

All in all I belive everyone should chill out and be happy, but that's for the individual to decide...

I consider myself a very philosophical person, and I have been lucky enough my whole life to be around a lot of smart people with interesting ideas. In previous years I would think that there was nothing after death, that we would just cease to exist. I believed this because I considered human beings another unimportant, practically nonexistant piece of life just like insects, all the way down to bacteria. And if germs dont have an afterlife than why should we? but something happened ages ago that produced humanity, and intelligent thought through the course of evolution. I believe there must be for a reason for this, that the earth couldnt have been existant for billions of years with life on it, then just suddenly beings whose mental capacity involved only the basic need for survival, grew into unsurpassed intelligence without some force behind it. And I suggest reading near death experiences, search it on google.

"there are going to be many interpretations of that answer."

Exactly - that was on of my points, though I said it in a very roundabout way... I was stoned. :) People always ignore the truth, or interpret it to suit their own conclusions.

I agree with flesh essentially. I think that all religions who believe in a higher 'god' are all right, Religion is a good set of morals to live by and i think that there is the same god for everyone but the perceptions are different. People have been free to interprate and relate to religion for whichever ways works for them whether it be Roman Catholic, Jew, Muslim etc.

What i hate though is when conflict is carried out under Gods name.It completely leaves me dumbfounded. I don't know how humans can kill other humans for not having the same beliefs. Even by their own thinking, if people are made in Gods image then that means ALL humans should be from the same power.
I don't know, its a difficult subject to put into words!

But a good thread to read!

But do you believe that God is actually a sentient, omnipotent, omniscient being or do you believe that he's just an extremely persistent figment of mankind's imagination?

Both is possible and both is good for people. Its nice to belive in something. And to have something to question, otherwise whats the point