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They have lost. They will lose. Why? Because, they're wrong. We are right. Though the frightened, pitiful, rich conservatives are against us, they are their own worst enemies. Its is only a matter of time my friends before we are free again.
To you stoners in the netherlands, i salute you. :cool:
no man legalization wont be done before we all die
take a SHOWERQuote:
Originally Posted by mellow mood
truth hurts
ok, enough with these complaints. how many of you have actually suffered becuase of marijuan's legal status? If you have, be my guest to say what ever you want about the system and marijuans illegitimacy
I would love to see marijuana legalized in my lifetime, but it's not gonna happen. I'm smokin whether it's legal or not.
They already lost, blatantly, people just need to wake up.
Five years ago Columbia supplied America with about 90% of our precious cocaine. In response the government started a project that involved converting ex-B52 bombers into crop dusters and spraying vast areas of Columbia with herbicides that also kill the crops of innocent civilians trying to support themselves. The cartels have shot down a few of the planes, resulting in some deaths. Despite it all, Columbia still provides America with 90% of its cocaine at a higher purity and cheaper price than ever.
They are suspected of using genetically modified coca plants that yeild more cocaine and will soon be growing herbicide resistant strains.
The Bush administration proposes we spend another $750 million doing the same thing that has gotten us no where.
There isnt no war on drugs, its a political mask thast used to cover up fuck ups the govermkent has no controll. no one cares bout the state of the health service if you keep telling them about "the war on drugs".
sorry for terrible spelling
well said, Euphoric. The truth is out there, or something.
lol, i hear you man, you too euphoric....Quote:
Originally Posted by Syrus
yeah but thats not stoping us is it? :D :D :D tOKE ON!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mellow mood
the netherlands is a myth...it's not legal there either.
instead of looking for "relaxed" laws elsewhere why not work on the source...u.s. government! all the bitching and moaning done here is no better than the preacher preaching to the choir. take the time you will spend here replying to this thread and write where it'll do some good!
www.norml.org has all the links needed to write to everyone's senators and congresspeople. plus they offer form letters...all ya do is fill in your personal info and it's sent directly to your politican. most will reply whether you're a registered voter or not. also www.mpp.org needs your assistance for the same...get busy doing some good and work for the change that'll affect the whole world!
Do you have any links for organisations that aren't only based in the US?
Do you think that the United States will ever admit they made a mistake? If you awnser that then you just awnsered your own question.
I prefer just to live as if it is legal. I've been in a few sketchy situations when it comes to smoking in public, but I've yet to be arrested. :D
Of course, I wouldn't really spark up if I was going to the policeman's ball or something, but smoking downtown or on a restaurant patio is generally gotten away with.
The War on drugs is a statically losing battle, costs billions, and is proven to hurt people more than help. I am all for drug awarness programs though. The education system has the whole drug awarness program ass backwards. The only preaching I had in school about drug abuse was during my grade school years. A DARE officer would come in, maybe once a year, and tell you that if you use any subtance you will become a loser forever. Drug awarness programs in Highschool? Hmm there weren't any. With the exception of a small section out of my Health and Psychology textbooks.
Yeah really, you always hear "honesty is the best policy," but the cops never seem to practice it when they cop to your school and tell you one puff off a doobie will land you in a MENTAL INSTITUTION. Because as soon as someone tries it, and realizes they haven't gone mad and murdered their family, they start to think that everything they've been told about heroin and speed is just as wrong as what they heard about weed.
The USA would play it off some how if it did go legal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero Revolt
Great advice Del. Other than the cops who lurk around on these message boards, I would think everyone on them wants at least some form of legalization, if not complete legalization.Quote:
Originally Posted by del...
Joining NORML is painless, and you can become as politically active as you desire, or remain a silent supporter. But at least your support is put to good use.
And it's true that far too many young Americans think that smoke is legal and completely acceptable in Amsterdam. I've been there several times....it's tolerated to an extent, but you still have to be somewhat careful. Especially if they know you're from the States. And lately my friends overseas tell me that the government of the Netherlands is trying to put the clamp on the coffeeshops. Several have been closed due to pressure from the government.
If you want to find other countries that have relaxed cannabis laws, we first have to change the laws here. Our government puts so much economic pressure on other countries that they are forced into being puppets of the U.S.
Onward!
Thanks for answering my question... lolQuote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Anyone?
if not legalization, then decriminalization.
if it was legalized and taxed, our country would have SO much money to fight wars and shit with.
So true, so true. But then the cops would have to get off of lurking on message boards like this and chase REALLY bad guys with guns, not nugs....lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ScarlettCrush
You're right about the amount of money that could be generated through taxation. Even if as many people grow their own as do now, the amount the govt. would make from legal sales could finance a HUGE amount of health care.
....but like Scarlett said, it would probably go towards blowing people up. :(
I disagree. With the relative ease that it can be grown, and th elegal aspect no longer a deterant from growing, I don't think that much if any weed will go through any kind of government controlled sales process. Unless of coarse, they could deliver a significantly superier product. I don't see that happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarlettCrush
Yes, it's easy, but it is time consuming. You have to find someone to tend to your garden when you're on vacation or away on business. And not everyone feels like they have a green thumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by mono repin
It's legal and very easy to brew your own beer, but I don't think that puts too much of a gash in the profits (and tax payments) of Budweiser, Coors, Miller, etc.
i think a company with money to spend like malboro would be able to fork out the money needed n i believe they could deliver a product that would be eaquel to our hydro
That doesn't matter, they spend sooooo much on the drug war that simply stopping it would save billions.Quote:
I disagree. With the relative ease that it can be grown, and th elegal aspect no longer a deterant from growing, I don't think that much if any weed will go through any kind of government controlled sales process. Unless of coarse, they could deliver a significantly superier product. I don't see that happening.
No, because everyone would start toking up and realise there's no point in fighting all the time :cool: !Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarlettCrush
Anyway, this thread sounds like the stoned ramblings of a naive child. No offence Euphoric, i'm just really lean right now :D ! How's the music going?
You're right that they COULD produce such a product. But it would greatly harm their profits from cigarettes, and that's a product that nobody can grow on their own at home. So the big tobacco companies have a monopoly on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattisstoned
Three groups will spend whatever is necessary to keep cannabis and cannabis products as a schedule 1 drug.....pharmaceutical companies, tobacco companies, and beer/liquor companies. All three have so much to lose that it's worth tens of millions of dollars to them to keep MJ from ever being legal, even if it's monitored the same way prescription medicines, liquor, beer, and tobacco are.
It's going to take a HUGE leap of faith by politicians to lower it from a schedule 1 drug to a much lower rating before we can expect any changes in the laws. That's why joining groups such as NORML is so important. You don't think alcohol was made legal after prohibition because people stayed in the closet and kept in the dark. It took money.....in the hands of the government, in the pockets of politicians, and especially in the pockets of huge corporate big-wigs before it was re-legalized. And that drug is infinitely more harmful than any cannabis product ever used. Money, money, money....
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