supreme court rules AGAINST medicinal marijuana

i found this on aol.....(sorry if this has been posted befoer, but i didnt see it

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/arti...00010000000001

a stinging defeat it is...

"Federal authorities may prosecute sick people whose doctors prescribe marijuana to ease pain, the Supreme Court ruled Monday, concluding that state laws don't protect users from a federal ban on the drug.

The decision is a stinging defeat for marijuana advocates who had successfully pushed 10 states to allow the drug's use to treat various illnesses."

this is some bullshit. honestly, this now makes me want to join the fight to legalize marijuana. i;ve been too lazy before.

if you look at the polls though, i think it is loud and clear that the majority of people want some legal form of marijuana, whethere medicinal or recreational. 80% of the voters did not agree with the ruling, and 83% of the 29,961 voters at that moment believed that federal laws should be changed to allow marijuana for medicinal purposes.

This another example of the Federal government putting ideology before science. Here we are, our tax dollars being wasted on a case asking whether or not people should be allowed to smoke a plant to ease their pain in a way that no other drug can. Do we really need the Supreme Court for this one? As Yoda said, the American people firmly believe in the use of marijuana as a medicine. Everybody needs to contact their members of Congress and let them know how important this issue is to them. Remember, this ruling not only hurts the medicinal marijuana movement, but the entire legalization effort as a whole. This is huge, guys, and we the people need to do something about it.

this porbably came at a bad time too, cause didnt some protest happen recently?

Yes, I believe so.

wow...its almost as if america is moving backwards at the federal level...i mean..fuck....whats the point of even having states if the federal government gets the last say anyways, and undermines what the STATE has decided??? this is effing ridiculous...

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Originally Posted by hardon

wow...its almost as if america is moving backwards at the federal level...i mean..fuck....whats the point of even having states if the federal government gets the last say anyways, and undermines what the STATE has decided??? this is effing ridiculous...

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Makes you think we need a revolution, and entirely new type of government for America (and Canada while I'm at it). Perhapse some sort of... democratic institution... yes, that's it! we'll hold a revolution for a new form of government ruled by popular opinion of the people! hahaha, me and me wacky concepts, those crazy republicans would have a field day with me. :rolleyes:

I'm liberal and support the legalization of marijuana. But I also agree with the Supreme Court on this decision.

The issue wasn't whether or not medical marijuana (or any marijuana) should be legal. It was about whether or not federal authorities could prosecute users of medical marijuana, even if medical marijuana is legal in their home state.

Personally, I don't think that should be the case, but it is the law. The federal government, for idiotic reasons, has made herb illegal and those laws supercede any state laws to the contrary, whether you agree with it or not. The Supreme Court did exactly what they were supposed to do, which is uphold the law.

The laws should definitely be changed though. As should a few members of the Supreme Court but that's another conversation.

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Originally Posted by bhallg2k

I'm liberal and support the legalization of marijuana. But I also agree with the Supreme Court on this decision.

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you make great points. im guessing the only thing that we can do now though is push to change the laws. if the supreme court ruled against because of set rules, then those laws ought be fought against.

theres only one thing why marihuana is illegal, and that is because it affects way too many interests...
For example what really important papaer of the US was made of hemp... so there the marihuana legalized would affect really bad all the paper business, and the cigarrette business, and the alcohol business, and the PHARMASEUTICAL business, and many many more.....

Now the entire world is experiencing one of the biggest acts of courruption, its clear how the supreme court or any court would do anything for money, as the old romans said "everyone has their price" the Phamraseutical business must not let the marihuana be legal, otherwise who the fuck would buy any pain killer pill? or tons of other medicaments...??? WHO????

which is why i'm an avid supporter of states' rights, nullification, and secession. My state of Colorado voted democratically to allow for medical marijuana. Rather than just give in to the feds, a state should wantonly defy the supreme court and nullify the court decision, and perhaps write letters of marque to citizens and local authorities to beat the fuck out of DEA fascists.

The purpose of the Supreme Court is to determine if an existing law should even be there in the first place. According to the tenth amendment, things such as marijauana should be left up to the states. Republicans of course will say they're for states' rights, but both parties all try to make the federal bolshevic government even more powerful.

at least state laws haven't been nullified. i just got off the phone with the dept of agriculture (they handle the licensing here) and she said they're doing biz as usual until the governor tells them differently...and our guv is all for the people's vote even tho he's personally against the med use law. it's far from being a done deal...we just need to work a little harder now and pester our congress-people even more to change the law!

yes, it's a major blow but not a knock out...20% of america has already voted it in by a hefty majority with other states pending! my only concern at this time is one of the ladies who took this to the supreme court was busted by the DEA with only 6 plants!!! our state law limits us to 7 at any one time...

All should start mailing the media, to make some preasure that way, tons and tons of mail, make the media talk about this toppic all the time, claim that the freedom of the US citizens is being threaten by this "comunist" government, then a change could happen maybe... but since noone puts any preasure in the governemt anywhere... they do whatever they want, and you are like sheeps being sheeped by a maniac to the slather house

If the economy crashes while Bush is in office we can say God is punishing him because he wont let sick people have their medicine and he will burn in hell for an eternity.

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Originally Posted by 5HT

which is why i'm an avid supporter of states' rights, nullification, and secession. My state of Colorado voted democratically to allow for medical marijuana. Rather than just give in to the feds, a state should wantonly defy the supreme court and nullify the court decision, and perhaps write letters of marque to citizens and local authorities to beat the fuck out of DEA fascists.

The purpose of the Supreme Court is to determine if an existing law should even be there in the first place. According to the tenth amendment, things such as marijauana should be left up to the states. Republicans of course will say they're for states' rights, but both parties all try to make the federal bolshevic government even more powerful.

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When you say "states' rights," I immediately think of Strom Thurmond, George Wallace and segregation in general, even though I know that's not where you're coming from. That's just the argument racists have used forever to move their agenda forward. Which partially explains why I favor a strong central government and agree with the Supreme Court's ruling.

Justice Stevens hit it right the nail right on the head in his majority opinion: we have laws made by the people (what Congress is supposed to be) that must be upheld, whether we agree with them or not. Anything else, and the judiciary becomes legislative.

The laws should definitely be changed. But the Court was right today.

I just think it's funny that Republicans always bitch about "activist judges trying to legislate from the bench" when a so-called liberal opinion is handed down and today, the only justices who dissented, and thusly tried to change the law in effect (Rehnquist, Thomas and O'Connor), were appointed by Republicans. How funny is that?

It's Those good Christian values. What a great, great victory for a drug free America. God Bless the people who passed that bill, God Bless them. And God bless them for their new teaching methods. And God Bless America as well as Allah, Jesus and Buddha. God Blesss a Drug Free America.

the government is not above the constituiton, if it violates that constituiton that was signed as a contract by the States, the states can declare those actions unconstitutional. The sad outcome of the War Between the States was the unleashing of the federal government with no constituitonal restrains.

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Originally Posted by Delta9

It's Those good Christian values. What a great, great victory for a drug free America. God Bless the people who passed that bill, God Bless them. And God bless them for their new teaching methods. And God Bless America as well as Allah, Jesus and Buddha. God Blesss a Drug Free America.

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Are you serious?? or are you being sarcastic???

because this is one of the biggest stupidest craps i had ever heard...

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Originally Posted by hardon

wow...its almost as if america is moving backwards at the federal level...i mean..fuck....whats the point of even having states if the federal government gets the last say anyways, and undermines what the STATE has decided??? this is effing ridiculous...

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The Dredd Scott decision precipitated the first Civil War back in the 1860's... which was all about states' rights. Perhaps the Raich decision will be seen by history to be a landmark case as well. How much will shit from the federal government will we take before we've had enough? Is it possible to motivate all of us lazy potsmokers to stand up for what we believe in, or is fear of persecution staying our wrath? Where would the boundaries be drawn if it's fought on the issue of pot? Can't be north/south this time around. May be much more splintered. Revolution was easier to stage when everyone had a common enemy - the British. Civil War was simpler when slavery (which was a necessary economic evil at the time for the south but not the north) was the polarizing factor. Pot is loved and hated by people in all states of the Union. Where do you draw the lines?