i think i will be topping my Widow x Skunk plant in a couple of days, right when the top growth is a couple inches from the next two leaves.. any suggestions ?
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i think i will be topping my Widow x Skunk plant in a couple of days, right when the top growth is a couple inches from the next two leaves.. any suggestions ?
how old is it??
about a month old.. do you think it's too early ?
i've only topped one crop before and I waited till the leaf set with 7 blades... i just FIMed a batch too and did it at the same time... I'm bending some plants too and it appears that the topped and FIMed ones need a little longer. I'd wait atleast one more nodal set... but other than that try them out and see. you'll learn more by doing it that anyone of us can tell you... look into FIMing though, it looks like mine are doing better this way than the ones I topped
top it.i top at less than a month oldQuote:
Originally Posted by absolut420
here is a plant i topped at 4th node so it would bush out and not be tall hopefully not be seen by anyone
its just regrowing tops and i set it outin the hills in its container for now
A MONTH OLD and its only on its 4th set of leaves?
I say there are other problems you need to deal with besides topping.
Looks healthy but why the short growth for a month old plant??????
If you are gonna top, i'd top it right now.
June 21 is less than a month away!
You sould wait until there are 5 or 6 sets of true leafs before you crop the top. The proper way is to crop between the 4th & 5th node then clone what you crop so you have another plant to grow.
yeah, it is pretty small for a month old, but it's growing outdoors, on a regular sun cycle.. it's actually been a little less than a month since the seed sprouted.
This is mine at 21 days old so I dunno what's going on with yours. Cuz it seems really healthy but if it really is that old then something's wrong I think.
but that plant looks like it's inside.. mine's outside, getting half the light ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Da1KrayzieThug
my first attempt at FIM... dunno if i did it right, guess i will find out soon ;)
Man it hurts to see that.
I would have bent her over bad.
OUtdoor or not, its a slow grower.
Why the container if an outdoor grow?
Tomorow i will show you some pics of an outdoor plant I have between the rose bushes. Planted it 4/22...
maybe i can get one tonight.... i'll check.
bend befor topping I say.
yeah but in your case hardon with the name you chose for her "cunt" instread of bending her over you can just spread her :-)
Haha
Topping just aint natural.
Bend and tie baby...
Keep the MAIN KOLA the MAIN COLA.
The rest will grow.
well, it's been a couple days, the plant is still alive ;)
Now HARDDON you keep running around the boards preaching in almost all of your post that bending is the way to grow. Everyone should just bend and tie down their plants like you do.
Have you ever had one plant that totaled over 1 pound by bending yet? How about 2- pounds or more?
I think there is miss information being spread around lately about topping plants.
1. not all strains take to topping thatâ??s a fact.
2. Those strains that donâ??t recover well when you top them you should bend those.
3. Topping will increase yieldâ?¦â?¦.yes thatâ??s a fact considering the short controlled indoor cycle. The same logic applys to outdoor grow as well though.
4. The main cola is the best potâ?¦..I donâ??t think so, If you mix the main cola with a branch bud you will not know the difference when you smoke them blind.
5. The main cola is denser budâ??sâ?¦.Correct the main cola is denser then the rest of the buds. Does that mean itâ??s better pot? Like I said before itâ??s denser but not necessarily better quality overall.
6. Bending will increase the THC of the buds and topping decreases the THCâ?¦.Bull shit!
THC is as much genetics as environment. You can increase the THC content (%) by several wayâ??s and whether you top or tie them down does not affect the end THC level on itâ??s own. There are many other factors, you being the biggest influence on your plants overall health.
By removing the mail cola between the 4th & 5th node in early vegetation stage will keep the plant shorter and bushier. This works to keep the plants shorter thus better for indoor growing. You can grow in cabinets and still yield a pound or more with a SCOG method of growing. The main cola contains the anit-oxidant that controls height and other factors of the plant. (Think of it as the controller) when you remove the control everything is running on their own clock and time, but still moving in the same directions.(simple version) The lower braches will have time to grow and catch up with the rest of the branches and the yield will increase accordingly. The potency is not affected by cropping. The THC content is the same grown in like conditions. You increase the THC content of the trichomes by adjusting the environment and proper management of the nutrients. Like stop feeding (N) the last 2 weeks makes the plant use up stored chlorophyll and that will improve the over-all taste and quality of the bud.
You see there are other ways and bending is not for every strain and circumstance. You bend outdoors when you need to like when you are hiding the plant and need to keep it in the light and out of site. You can bend when you have limited side spacing and the light is mostly top, like other plants hiding the early and late sun. You crop outdoors when you have room for the sides to grow out and have full light but donâ??t have the height and need to hide. Yield will be proportional to the branch areas receiving light. Cropping does need air flow due to the denser foliage where bending does very well with little air movement. I guess air movement is also an important consideration when deciding to bend crop or just let it go.
Try a side by side your self and then grow how you need to or want to but donâ??t be down on people who crop unless you know what you are missing. I donâ??t think you have grown weight yet, but you will I have no doubt of that. So you see only different reason and there is still no definitive right or wrong way only options to choose. One may fit your needs the other may not. Most old school hippy growers say never cut the main cola all the Juju is there. Some of us have moved past that and into growing trees and using meters and computers to control everything. Sometime thatâ??s overboard too trust me. Again all those tools are just another method of growing the same plant. Donâ??t get to set on growing one way you are missing half the fun.
Take care, happy growingâ?¦..give cropping a try once or twice and donâ??t settle for anything less then the perfect harvest time.
also, some strains (romulan) HAVE to be topped. romulan, for example, grows a huge main cola, it often gets so thick, that by the time the outside of it is ready, the inside gets moldy. topping a romulan plant will give you several colas that are less thick than the main cola would've been without topping, helping avoid mold.
this tip came from a grower i know who's been doingthis for a long time.
Gee Zandor I am honored you took the time to school me.
I understand now.
Thank you.
Hey but i never said things like 'bending increases THC'
cmon now since the whole post was addressed to me, certainly the logic would follow that "I" made such an outrageous claim...
I don;t beleive i have ever said such a thing.
I never said topping wasnt good...either...
I just said it wasnt natural.
It's not natural... you're cutting the top off a plant.. what the hell is natural about that?
OK OK..WELL HAPPY FUCKING TOPPING :)
Oh yea...that reminds me...
I also NEVER said the main cola was the most potent part.
WTF?
If youre gonna put stuff it my mouth, make it a nice puffy pink nipple...not words.
I never said half that shit you labeled me on.
HAPPY GOOD MORNING :)
haha
LOL Dank.
I guess thats proof.
I'm sold!
I think this morning on my way around town, I am gonna stop and see farmer Ed.
He has about 50,000 acreas along the river here.
I'm gonna ask farmer Ed, how come I never see him and his boys out there topping his corn, soybeans and wheat fields.
I mean gosh, maybe I could teach him to top and he can increase his yield...even if its only by 20%....you know what that would mean to farmer Ed's bottom line this season????
Hell he might even let me fuck his sister for teaching him that.
I'll post my plants topped when I get home from lunch.
At least with my sativa I am glad I topped.
It allows my plants to mature longer before flowering. I would be flowering now (30 days) if I did not top, it looks like I can go 45 days now before flowering and they all have filled out and look good.
Like I said, I'll post in a few hours.
Happy lunch time :D
dank,
topped the plant at the first node! :(
I agree there are times to top.
Like, for shorter growth....or clandestine crops....or space limitations.
But, if its for more yield, PLANT ANOTHER FUCKING PLANT and save your ass about a month.
my big plant started to grow tooo damn fast before I topped it. One thing for sure is before I topped it its had fan leaves the size of my head and was starting to increase growth rate every day. I had to top it to keep it under controll. Now 1 week later she is looking a lot bushier and now has 12 tops instead of 1. I also put the top I removed onto my cloner so that way I can either keep it and it will be Identical to the plant I removed it from or I can flower it to determine sex and if its a girl then I can make 12 more clones from the main plant and vegg them till they get big and flower them. by the time I get the clones rooted and into vegg the mommy will have more tops ready to take. heres a little trick I learned in the 80's that most people dont know........... while in bud if you were to put your plant in a cold environment for maybe 5 to 15 minutes for a few times a day your buds will produce more thc to keep the plant from freezing. you cant do it unless theres bud on the plant and the cold will kill the leaves. thats why hunters can find pot with snow on the ground because the pot is an evergreen and will be one of the only remaining green plants. I have seen this done before and it does work.
the picture i posted was actually a plant found growing in my compost, naturally topped from something
HARDDON you forgot to say:
HAPPY SISTER FUCKING!
HARDDON - I was mostly trying to clear up some of what I felt was miss information; you did not specifically quote those details. Again I was just trying to correct what I felt was miss information. You are one of the most vocal around here about bending VS topping and I did not think you would be offended by opposing views.
Most people canâ??t plant another plant due to limitations of legal grows in some areas. Some legal grows are only allowed 4 plants and thatâ??s not enough for a lot of people so they need the most yield out of what they can grow. Growing trees cost big bucks to setup and not many people will spend 10k just to set up a grow room.
I just felt the topic was getting off track and some miss information was affecting the new growers they are getting the wrong idea and confusing the topic of when and why. Itâ??s just a method of growing one of many. Growing indoors with artificial light is not natural but itâ??s what some of us must do. The nutrients we use are not always found in nature in those exact portions and amounts either. A lot of what we do is not natural to the region we each grow in but we do it anyway because of the success we know we can achieve with our results.
Happy growing everyone, experiment often and advance your education as your growing techniques expand and mature. Failure is still the best teacher so donâ??t be afraid to fail.
Thanks for clearing up that issue for me Zandor.
I only speak about what I know, have learned or exerienced.
On the same coin, different side, I think too many people top and ignore the fact that there are indeed different ways to increase yield.
Way back when...topping was the rule...we all did it not knowing there were any different ways.
But yea I have a big vocal mouth...sometimes I say the stuff just to piss off those who think its the ONLY way.
I think there are enough posts on the subject to where a newbie who did some reading would learn there are diff. opinions on the subject, just as there is with nutes, lights and hours.
Thank you for being a gentleman and explaining your post.
I respect what you have to say.
Otherwise I would have called you a male anatomy part and put you in the class with some of the "know it alls" here cuz they read.
You are way too classy for that, and, your addressing the issue confirms...You are da' man Zandor.
Thanks again and HAPPY TOPPING :)
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Originally Posted by danknugg
Musta been those monkeys or giraffes......ROFLMAO
ha..ha..
i'm also planning on supercropping this plant.. hope that doesnt upset anyone ;)
here's a pic of the topped plant as of 5 minutes ago.. the stem has gotten at least twice as thick since the topping, and the leaves grew at least an inch..
Are you talking about toping twice or crushing the stocks?
talking about crushing / breaking the stem just a little.. below the buds. wont be for a while tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zandor
told ya ;) :D lmfaoQuote:
Originally Posted by HARDDON