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Hey, I am a new member. I have to take a UA possibly Tuesday maybe later. I have to go in Tuesday and my friend said they may ask to take a drug test then. I read up and down this site and came to the conclusion that dilution is risky and substitution is the way to go. I decided to buy quick fix from detox for less. Has anyone bought from them? I hope they are legit. Also, its just a cooking job at a hotel, so I doubt its a real in depth UA. I was wondering does quest diagnostics pat you down or make you empty your pockets. I know the directions they say to warm it up and if I put it down my shorts. Im worried it will get to hot and take to long to cool down. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys. Really need this job. I quit for like a month and then smoked 2 bowls, but I am big dude and I don't think it will be out in time.
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I was wondering does quest diagnostics pat you down or make you empty your pockets.
For employment-related tests, the collector may ask you to empty your pockets. The collector is not allowed to frisk or touch the donor in any manner. This constitutes groping and is against the law.
Now if the test is for court-ordered probation, thats an entirely different ball game, as a person on probation had relinquished all of the rights that are normally afforded to those taking an employment-related test.
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Im worried it will get to hot and take to long to cool down.
Its easier to deal with the temp being too high than the temp being too low. You can always blow on the sample the cool it down to proper temp, or find a blowing A/C duct in the bathroom. Or you can find a cold surface to set the sample cup on while youre zipping up, etc.
Worried! Just trying to clarify some things!
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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
For employment-related tests, the collector may ask you to empty your pockets. The collector is not allowed to frisk or touch the donor in any manner. This constitutes groping and is against the law.
Now if the test is for court-ordered probation, thats an entirely different ball game, as a person on probation had relinquished all of the rights that are normally afforded to those taking an employment-related test.
Its easier to deal with the temp being too high than the temp being too low. You can always blow on the sample the cool it down to proper temp, or find a blowing A/C duct in the bathroom. Or you can find a cold surface to set the sample cup on while youre zipping up, etc.
Thanks, you are a wealth of knowledge. One last question, if anyone has an answer, I saw quick fix had some recalls. It was on quick fix plus from what I am reading not quick fix the regular 2 oz. Can anyone confirm this? I know when the package comes in I need to check the numbers.
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Quick Fix is manufactured by Spectrum Labs. Google Spectrum Labs website for any recalls on the QF.
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One last question, when I substitute. I think it only comes with 2 oz. and if I understand correctly. That is the minimum you can give as a sample. Do I need to urinate in the toilet after to make it look legit. I know you cant flush or turn on the sink until you dive them your cup. Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on the subject.
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Urinating in the toilet is not necessary. A person can always contend that s/he had just enough urine in their bladder to fill the sample cup - Not everybody can show up at a facility with a full bladder.
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Thanks for all your help. This is my first pre employment screening, so just worried. Hope I don't mess up in the switch.
Worried! Just trying to clarify some things!
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Even if the line in the THC region was faint, its still a negative.
Today is the big day. I took an at home one this morning with my first void. The line was extremely faint, but it was def. there. Every way I turned it there was a solid line just extremely, extremely faint. So, if I drink some fluids and void a couple of times before the test but not completely dilute. Would that help my chances? Or should I go with just the straight substitute?
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So, I went to concentra and subbed quick fix. When I brought it out, the temp was between 96 and 98 and the guy said it was to hot it should have cooled quicker. Then he smelt it and said that it had a tampering odor. No idea how, well he goes you can either leave or go and take it in front of me. I signed off to go in front of him. But I had it in my belt and he spotted it. Well, needless to say it is over.
I guess I messed up. My question is what information are they allowed to release to the hotel. Are they going to tell them I got caught subbing? Is there anything the law can do? Also, if I go for another job. Will I be watched because it is in the records? I am so upset. My friend got me the job and I don't want this to reflect on him. Are they going to tell the place that they caught me subbing since I initialed for an in person watch but didn't take it.
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So, I went to concentra and subbed quick fix. When I brought it out, the temp was between 96 and 98 and the guy said it was to hot it should have cooled quicker. Then he smelt it and said that it had a tampering odor. No idea how, well he goes you can either leave or go and take it in front of me. I signed off to go in front of him. But I had it in my belt and he spotted it. Well, needless to say it is over.
If what youre saying is indeed true, then you shouldve raised hell because "the guy" was in total error. Under DHHS regulations, the acceptable temp range is 90-100F.
And anyone with an educational background in human urology would understand that a lack of odor can be had in human urine too.
NEVER throw your arms up and say "okay you got me". Put up a defense and maintain that the sample had come from your body. Because the burden is on the collector to prove that the sample did not come from your body. "That guy" has not met that burden of proof. He screwed you big time and did so without protection - again providing that your story is indeed true.
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If what youre saying is indeed true, then you shouldve raised hell because "the guy" was in total error. Under DHHS regulations, the acceptable temp range is 90-100F.
And anyone with an educational background in human urology would understand that a lack of odor can be had in human urine too.
NEVER throw your arms up and say "okay you got me". Put up a defense and maintain that the sample had come from your body. Because the burden is on the collector to prove that the sample did not come from your body. "That guy" has not met that burden of proof. He screwed you big time and did so without protection - again providing that your story is indeed true.
My story in indeed true. I got called back. Was told to empty my pockets in the lock box. Wash my hands then he brought to the bathroom and said do not flush or try to lift the back of the toilet which was taped anyway. I pulled out my thing and it read 98. I stayed in there for about a minute or so and unzipped my pants. I poured the contents into the cup and capped it back up and put back between my belt and pants. I came out. I set it down on the counter like he instructed. It was just enough liquid to go to the black line he marked. He picked it up. Swirled it around, smelt it and told me that the sample was to warm. I said I don't know. I kept it in my hand almost the whole time. He then said it smells like there is tampering in it. I don't think I can submit this sample. He picked up the phone and called the hotel to ask what to do because he couldn't submit the sample. They did not answer so he left a message.
He then looked at me and said you could either leave or be watched while you urinate in a new cup. He said that by hotel rules though if I leave its most likely going to be considered a fail. I said can I get some water or something so I can try to urinate again. He said know it has to be right now. So, I didn't know all it entailed so I thought if I just have to whip my junks out and pee I am fine with it. We go in the bathroom. He says lift both shirts under your chin then he goes drop you pants to the ground. Well, that's when I was trying finagle it to drop to the ground but it didn't work and he goes are you hiding something then saw it and said we are done. I walked out he said throw away the empty cup. He goes to the corner and says you can go. I will tell her talking about the women who hired me. So, I walked out embarrassed and he gave me like this huge disgust look.
I mean I understand trying to cheat the system, but I have smoked 1 G in the past month and a half and because I am bigger dude it stays in me. I find it unfair that this is what people have to resort to for smoking a little bit on their own time and bringing no harm to society. Its just a bad situation because it was a family friend who got me the job and my mom knew about it. So, now I have to lie to her and hope that it doesn't come out. I am applying for jobs and hopefully the quicker I get one the quicker this will be an after thought. I very much think this guy was being a complete dick because I smelt it and it smelt like nothing. The temp was in the acceptable range and he completely dismissed everything.
I respect your opinion and your facts on this board. This is the first test I ever took so I completely botched what I should have done at the end. I just want to know how much information can be released. Will he tell them I was caught subbing. I just don't want it to look bad on my friend. Sorry for the long post. I was just giving people my experience. I am also telling a 100 percent factual story. I would not put up nonsense for people trying to make a living.
Worried! Just trying to clarify some things!
10,000 passed with no issues
1 fail (by a far stretch, what was done here is sexual harrasment)
Acceptable odds.
Worried! Just trying to clarify some things!
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10,000 passed with no issues
1 fail (by a far stretch, what was done here is sexual harrasment)
Acceptable odds.
After reading more into it, I def believe my rights were completely violated. He had no basis for saying it was tampered. The temp was in the correct range and there was no odor. I smelt it before I went. He said it had a tampering odor. He swirled it around like it was a wine glass. Also, he brought no other people in to verify what he thought. He told yea I can't submit this and basically said if you leave it will be a fail. Burnt was right. I should have caused hell and left then went back to the company and pleaded my case of this guy was just being a complete douche
