Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
Hi im planting for the first time this spring, ive got 3, 5 gallon buckets (with holes in the bottom for drainage) and i will be putting about a 2 inch layer of rocks at the bottom of each bucket for even better drainage. I will then fill up the bucket the rest of the way with (preferably organic) soil and either perlite or vermiculite to aerate the soil.
My questions are:
1. Is my plan a solid one? What would you change or do differently
2. What is a good soil for cannabis (preferably organic)? One that comes ready out of the bag without having to add anything extra except maybe perlite would be nice. The soil MUST be available stores such as walmart or farm king or something (commercially available), just something i can get my hands on without having to order.
3. What are good nutes for Vegatative Growth? i was originally going to use miracle gro orchid food (30-10-10 npk ratio) but that seems strong and i dont want to burn my plants, also miracle gro just isnt very good for cannabis. MUST BE COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE.
4. What are good nutes for Flowering stage? Also must be commercially available
5. Would you recommend using superthrive at least once? What have you heard about superthrive? I heard it does wonders for weed
6. Do you recommend topping or fimming?
7. What parts of the plant do i supercrop?
PLEASE ANSWER ANY OR ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS! Im just trying to grow some top shelf quality cannabis for myself and i have sooooooo many questions lol:stoned:
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
no rocks in the bottom. It's not good for the roots.
plain potting soil, no added perlite needed. Quality soil is lots better, Fox Farms Ocean Forest.
Espoma is a great organic line of products found at Ace Hardware and many others. Plant-Tone, Flower-Tone or Rose-Tone are good general purpose nutrients.
Screw Superthrive, you don't need that.
I like short plants but I also like a long veg so I start topping at the third node ( sometimes just a couple of inches tall) and often top at least twice. Early topping lets the plant branch out nicely and keeps it relatively short.
Supercropping can be done to any and every branch, If you'd like. I just use that method to bend over the top branches if they start to stretch too much.
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
Thank you for the quick reply! ill check those soils and nutes out. and ill skip the rocks, should be good enough with the holes in the bottom
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
You should have a local grow shop...look it up in the hydroponics section. Fox farm has great products
I love the ocean forest soil. Has everything u need to start. Just don't use it for Ur seeds it may burn them.
There is enough nutes in ffof for about a month. Then i would recommend the fox farm line. Really cheap on amazon
If u can't find it local. I wouldn't recommend using nutes that aren't meant for cannabis.
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
Thank you very much, thats the info i needed. I did not know that the fox farms soil has nutes to start off, that is exactly what i need and i have decided to use FoxFarm: Grow Big for vegetative state and FoxFarms: Big Bloom for flowering, are they good? or is tiger bloom better than big bloom?
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
they are different actually.
Both Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom are recommended according to the Fox Farms Feeding Schedule. Check it out here.
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
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Originally Posted by dgskizzle
Hi im planting for the first time this spring, ive got 3, 5 gallon buckets (with holes in the bottom for drainage) and i will be putting about a 2 inch layer of rocks at the bottom of each bucket for even better drainage. I will then fill up the bucket the rest of the way with (preferably organic) soil and either perlite or vermiculite to aerate the soil.
My questions are:
1. Is my plan a solid one? What would you change or do differently
I always add some extra perlite to make sure I have excellent drainage. I also add some extra peat, in order to save some moisture. All will be syphoned by the plant eventually.
2. What is a good soil for cannabis (preferably organic)? One that comes ready out of the bag without having to add anything extra except maybe perlite would be nice. The soil MUST be available stores such as walmart or farm king or something (commercially available), just something i can get my hands on without having to order.
Most people swear by Foxfarm. It isd a great soil, but costly. I prefer "MG Organic Choice"; I have grown excellent plants using this soil. I add diatomaceous earth to top of soil to protect against spider miteds and other pests
3. What are good nutes for Vegatative Growth? i was originally going to use miracle gro orchid food (30-10-10 npk ratio) but that seems strong and i dont want to burn my plants, also miracle gro just isnt very good for cannabis. MUST BE COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE. Buy nutes for tomatoes
4. What are good nutes for Flowering stage? Also must be commercially available
5. Would you recommend using superthrive at least once? What have you heard about superthrive? I heard it does wonders for weed
I start seeds in Superthrive! great product! More females.
6. Do you recommend topping or fimming? Choice.
7. What parts of the plant do i supercrop? Duh... Read more!
PLEASE ANSWER ANY OR ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS! Im just trying to grow some top shelf quality cannabis for myself and i have sooooooo many questions lol:stoned:
You have a long way to go, but have asked many good Q's
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
Thanks for the response! Tons of much appreciated info... you say you start your seeds in super thrive? what exactly do you mean by this? just add some to water and let seed soak in a cup? More females would be great lol
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
I mean; I read the directions for seed starting on the bottle, and follow that regimen. It works. ST is a great potion for stress, and for use at transplant.
I will say; I do not always use ST. I just wanted to give you info from my projects/experiments
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
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Originally Posted by dgskizzle
Thank you very much, thats the info i needed. I did not know that the fox farms soil has nutes to start off, that is exactly what i need and i have decided to use FoxFarm: Grow Big for vegetative state and FoxFarms: Big Bloom for flowering, are they good? or is tiger bloom better than big bloom?
Well, its your $. I use EB stone organic potting soil myself. Works beautifully. Go to your local nursery and grab some of their house mix organic soil(prlly around 8-10 bucks) and then get some espoma biotone and tomato tone while your at it. Mix the biotone with your soil, then topdress with tomato tone when flowering starts. Why screw around with the hydro stores and those outrageous prices when you dont have to? And btw, if your're not an ALL organic freak, pick up some Jacks Classic and blossom booster, to supplement your espomas a tad. Hope this helps.
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
Ive had success with Canna Vega A&B. Not sure on availability, check the canna website. Its in liquid form so very easy to apply. Just follow the directions. mine started to flower then i started using Vega. They quickly doubled in size and flower volume. now in week 4 of flowering and alternating between vega and thrive flower & fruit. every 3-4 days as they are in small pots. Ill throw up some pics soon.
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
This is when they first started to flower. The previous pics are 4 weeks later.Attachment 290737Attachment 290738
The soil is a cheap organic mix from bunnings. I think about $15 for 25L bag.
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
Hey guys,
Sorry to intrude, but I'm new too. I'm gonna start my garden in a couple weeks. I have some questions of my own.
1.) how would you germinate? I was going to use a paper towel. Is it better to put it in a plastic bag? How does soaking it in tap water in the dark work? I was just gonna leave them in my drawer so no light gets in. Then place it in rock wool.
2.) once in rockwool, do I put it in sun or keep watered and in the dark til it breaks the surface? I was gonna put it on my window sill once it broke the surface. Then I was going to put it in a gallon milk container cut in half til I think it's outgrown it. Then just cut the bottom out so it just falls into my had to place it in a 5 gal bucket.
3.) when does vegetative growth and flowering stage take place?
4.) lastly, I will post pics of fertilizers next time, but I have the following ratios... 8-16-8
13-7-13
19-6-12
12-55-6
10-10-10
12-4-8 miracle gro all purpose
When do I use these, if any?
I figured veg growth was just the time from a seedling til it hits flowering which is when the pistils emerge.
More questions soon to come. Thank you for any and all advice in advance!
-Detox
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
Hey guys,
Sorry to intrude, but I'm new too. I'm gonna start my garden in a couple weeks. I have some questions of my own.
It's usually better to start your own thread but this subject is ok as information is helpful to all who want to read it. Where the hell did that sticky from Stinkyattic on thread-jacking go?
1.) how would you germinate? I was going to use a paper towel. Is it better to put it in a plastic bag? How does soaking it in tap water in the dark work? I was just gonna leave them in my drawer so no light gets in. Then place it in rock wool.
Seeds in damp, not soaking wet papertowel, in a baggie on top of the refrigerator (looking for 80ºF +/-)
2.) once in rockwool, do I put it in sun or keep watered and in the dark til it breaks the surface? I was gonna put it on my window sill once it broke the surface. Then I was going to put it in a gallon milk container cut in half til I think it's outgrown it. Then just cut the bottom out so it just falls into my had to place it in a 5 gal bucket.
Rockwool? Are you going to grow all the way in Rockwool? Ok, then put it in the sun/window. For a container something that blocks the light is necessary so algae won't grow.
3.) when does vegetative growth and flowering stage take place?
Indoors flowering is when you change the lights on time to 12 hours.
4.) lastly, I will post pics of fertilizers next time, but I have the following ratios... 8-16-8
13-7-13
19-6-12
12-55-6
10-10-10
12-4-8 miracle gro all purpose
When do I use these, if any?
I don't know. Numbers don't mean a lot from one brand to another. Higher Nitrogen (first number) for vegging, lower N for blooming.
I figured veg growth was just the time from a seedling til it hits flowering which is when the pistils emerge.
That is the sign of maturity, along with the branches changing from coming out opposite each other to alternating from side to side. Pistils are a sign of pre-flowering.
More questions soon to come. Thank you for any and all advice in advance!
Start your own thread or else you'd be thread-jacking and screwing up this thread.
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
-Detox
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
QUICK QUESTION, HOW SHOULD I GO ABOUT CHANGING NUTES WITH MY OUT DOOR BABYS? i am going from fox farms big grow to a hydro nute i know how to mix the nutes to use in soil, but i started with fox fars. how do i make the change without shocking my girls?
Questions about Nutrients and soil for 1st grow
Boner420, why do you think changing ferts will cause a shock?