It is illegal in NM to purchase from anyone other than the LNPPs

Just wanted the patients who visit this site to remember that it is illegal to purchase from anyone other than the licensed nonprofit producers. The DOH will be receiving the license renewal fees from the LNPPs in December. The DOH will be using the money to hire 5-7 full time staff members. Their first priority will be site visits of all the patients with personal production licenses. In addition, several patients have lost their PPL due to someone turning them in for selling or growing more than allowed. Let's do our part to keep this program going. If you don't have a PPL, support your local producer. The prices are starting to come down and will continue to do so. We just have to have patience and we must follow the rules.

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Recycle and Reuse - It can save your medicine and you
To help avoid any unwanted problems or hassles from law enforcement, always keep your medical cannabis in the containers it came in. Licensed to grow your own? Recycle and reuse your previously purchased containers, they are labeled and clearly state the contents within are legal medical cannabis.

Law enforcement departments across the state are being advised by the DOH to look for labeled medical cannabis. Cannabis found in non-labeled packages are suspect of being illegal and may require proof of legal purchase, such as a receipt.

Thankfully if you are in this position and you have lost your receipt,
all you need do is stop by your local producer and ask for a printed copy.

Be smart, be safe and stay out of trouble.

Cfo just curious do u work at the doh? Everytime I read ur posts I can't help but wonder. Dominick in disguise. ........lmao. I jest...although kinda serious too.

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Originally Posted by CannaHub

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Recycle and Reuse - It can save your medicine and you
To help avoid any unwanted problems or hassles from law enforcement, always keep your medical cannabis in the containers it came in. Licensed to grow your own? Recycle and reuse your previously purchased containers, they are labeled and clearly state the contents within are legal medical cannabis.

Law enforcement departments across the state are being advised by the DOH to look for labeled medical cannabis. Cannabis found in non-labeled packages are suspect of being illegal and may require proof of legal purchase, such as a receipt.

Thankfully if you are in this position and you have lost your receipt,
all you need do is stop by your local producer and ask for a printed copy.

Be smart, be safe and stay out of trouble.

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Not for a nano second do I believe that I can be cited for having cannabis in an old shoebox, as long as I can produce my patients card.

Once I have my street corner purchase in my hands it's legal if I have my patient card in pocket.

so go spread misinformation elsewhere will you?

The act clearly states what happens when you have an encounter with law enforcement. If I have a joint in my pocket how should I attach a label to that?

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Originally Posted by MimbresValley

Cfo just curious do u work at the doh? Everytime I read ur posts I can't help but wonder. Dominick in disguise. ........lmao. I jest...although kinda serious too.

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No, I do not work for the DOH. Registered Patient....Working closely with a producer.

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Originally Posted by patient4200

Not for a nano second do I believe that I can be cited for having cannabis in an old shoebox, as long as I can produce my patients card.

Once I have my street corner purchase in my hands it's legal if I have my patient card in pocket.

so go spread misinformation elsewhere will you?

The act clearly states what happens when you have an encounter with law enforcement. If I have a joint in my pocket how should I attach a label to that?

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Patient 4200...it is unfortunate that you believe that good people who come to this website to relay information which has been obtained from the DOH is providing the registered patients "misinformation". Due to the federal crackdown, and seemingly the reversal of the lenient policy stated by Attorney General Eric Holder, the DOH wants to ensure that the patients understand their rights under the program and the consequences of not following the rules. Cannahub is obviously involved with some of the producers. The producers recently had a meeting with the DOH, which has been reported on this very website. As I just stated in my response to MimbresValley, I am closely associated with one of the producers and am a fellow patient. Please tell me why we would want to provide other patients with misinformation? CannaHub even tells you to reuse your packaging you receive from a producer. That doesn't mean you have to continually purchase from a producer. However, purchasing on the street does not protect you under the act and that is clearly stated. Purchasing on the street constitutes one of those "illicit acts" which is not protected. And, just to let you know....if you are buying medicinal grade on the street more power to you and it will be difficult (but not impossible) to tell the legal from the illegal. However, if you are purchasing anything other than medicinal grade, law enforcement knows the difference and should you be detained, you would need to disclose from which producer you obtained your medicine. If it is in a labeled package, you only need to show them the packaging. If, as you say, you have a joint in your pocket, then for your safety, perhaps you could carry a receipt in your wallet. Just a suggestion because that's what I do.

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Patient 4200...it is unfortunate that you believe that good people who come to this website to relay information which has been obtained from the DOH is providing the registered patients "misinformation". Due to the federal crackdown, and seemingly the reversal of the lenient policy stated by Attorney General Eric Holder, the DOH wants to ensure that the patients understand their rights under the program and the consequences of not following the rules. Cannahub is obviously involved with some of the producers. The producers recently had a meeting with the DOH, which has been reported on this very website. As I just stated in my response to MimbresValley, I am closely associated with one of the producers and am a fellow patient. Please tell me why we would want to provide other patients with misinformation? CannaHub even tells you to reuse your packaging you receive from a producer. That doesn't mean you have to continually purchase from a producer. However, purchasing on the street does not protect you under the act and that is clearly stated. Purchasing on the street constitutes one of those "illicit acts" which is not protected. And, just to let you know....if you are buying medicinal grade on the street more power to you and it will be difficult (but not impossible) to tell the legal from the illegal. However, if you are purchasing anything other than medicinal grade, law enforcement knows the difference and should you be detained, you would need to disclose from which producer you obtained your medicine. If it is in a labeled package, you only need to show them the packaging. If, as you say, you have a joint in your pocket, then for your safety, perhaps you could carry a receipt in your wallet. Just a suggestion because that's what I do.

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cfo you state "it will be difficult (but not impossible) to tell the legal from the illegal." what are you talking about? But I do agree with you on having a container with a lable that states that it is for medical use.So what if you grow your own do you just make your own lable?LOL P.S. you also state "However, if you are purchasing anything other than medicinal grade, law enforcement knows the difference and should you be detained" Again are you out to scare people into thinking that law enforcement is out to get them or what?

CFO one more thing are you a board member for that producer you work closely with? "if you are buying medicinal grade on the street more power to you" it is possible to get medical grade on the street and lower price than the producers.But with swops low price on that one strain that would be hard to beat.If any one has tried it let us know if it is medical grade or street grade.

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Originally Posted by patient4200

Not for a nano second do I believe that I can be cited for having cannabis in an old shoebox, as long as I can produce my patients card.

Once I have my street corner purchase in my hands it's legal if I have my patient card in pocket.

so go spread misinformation elsewhere will you?

The act clearly states what happens when you have an encounter with law enforcement. If I have a joint in my pocket how should I attach a label to that?

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Patient 420,
Please take another nano second and look at the post you are railing against. It says to avoid troubles or hassles with the lawâ?¦. Nothing about being cited. I apologize if this confused you.

Do you really want to advocate going around with your medical cannabis in a shoebox? Do you honestly think that if you get stopped, you are not going to get hassled by the cops? Really? You must live in the one part of the state that only has wonderful, medical cannabis friendly law enforcement officials - and not here in Albuquerque. You are truly blessed.

But I would suggest that that the rest of us licensed patients not to keep your meds in a shoebox. It will dry out your meds, impart that â??new sneakerâ?� smell and if you do get stopped you will more then likely have to spend a considerable amount of time explaining why you have a shoebox of marijuanaâ?¦.card or not.

Or you could just present your meds in a clearly labeled (glass preferably) container and your card. You could avoid a big hassle and be on your way. I personally like to spend as little time with law enforcement as possible. But thatâ??s just me.

There is no intention of spreading misinformation in this post but you can read into it what you want. Hopefully the rest of us will take the advise and move on with life.

CannaHub:thumbsup:

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Patient 420,
Please take another nano second and look at the post you are railing against. It says to avoid troubles or hassles with the lawâ?¦. Nothing about being cited. I apologize if this confused you.

Do you really want to advocate going around with your medical cannabis in a shoebox? Do you honestly think that if you get stopped, you are not going to get hassled by the cops? Really? You must live in the one part of the state that only has wonderful, medical cannabis friendly law enforcement officials - and not here in Albuquerque. You are truly blessed.

But I would suggest that the rest of us licensed patients not to keep your meds in a shoebox. It will dry out your meds, impart that â??new sneakerâ?� smell and if you do get stopped you will more then likely have to spend a considerable amount of time explaining why you have a shoebox of marijuanaâ?¦.card or not.

Or you could just present your meds in a clearly labeled (glass preferably) container and your card. You could avoid a big hassle and be on your way. I personally like to spend as little time with law enforcement as possible. But thatâ??s just me.

There is no intention of spreading misinformation in this post but you can read into it what you want. Hopefully the rest of us will take the advise and move on with life.

CannaHub:thumbsup:

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Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I am so tired of being attacked by people on this forum. People can accept the information that is disseminated on this website as a way of trying to help, or they can be negative and read into every post more than what is intended. For those that grow their own....obviously they will have their PPL to show to any law enforcement personnel. Those that don't grow their own and are purchasing illegally are the ones that need to worry. If someone is following the rules, then advice that is posted here means nothing to them. AND, since the assumption is made that people who are on these sites [I]know[I] how to read....I punctuate my sentences properly, so if you have a question regarding what I have said...perhaps you could go back and read the sentence again before commenting. So that there is little confusion, my posts are usually fairly complete. However, there have been times where I have been in such a hurry that there may be a misspelling or two.

CFO no one here is trying to attack you not me anyway but your posts are so controversial that other people have a view of there own and want there side heard also.Why don't you respond to my questions? I just want to know where you are coming from.

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CFO no one here is trying to attack you not me anyway but your posts are so controversial that other people have a view of there own and want there side heard also.Why don't you respond to my questions? I just want to know where you are coming from.

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I appreciate that alfonso2002 and I suppose my issue is that instead of voicing their opinion, as I do mine, they also attack. It should be enough to respond without calling someone names. My comments were not directed specifically at you as you (thus far) have not been the one to call me a liar or a pretender. I have stated that I am a registered patient and work closely with a producer. I have not stated, nor will I, in what capacity that is. You can assume it is the financial arena in that I have also stated in another post that I am an accountant. :-)

You also asked what part of this sentence meant: "if you are buying medicinal grade on the street more power to you and it will be difficult (but not impossible) to tell the legal from the illegal. However, if you are purchasing anything other than medicinal grade, law enforcement knows the difference and should you be detained..." If a patient is purchasing medicinal grade cannabis on the street and not from the producers, it may be difficult for law enforcement to tell how the patient obtained said medicine if it is not in labeled packaging. However, if a patient has "brick" in their possession and is busted, law enforcement will know that it didn't come from a LNPP. A LNPP would never compress their medicine!

Hope this answers your questions.

BTW - you continued in your next post and asked if anyone has tried the low-priced strain from SWOP as to whether or not it is street-grade or medicinal-grade. If a patient is supposed to be able to tell the difference...shouldn't law enforcement be able to tell the difference as well?

A patient would know the difference by medicating with it and see the effect that it had on them.DUH if it is "brick" then there is a difference in the look of the cannabis. Did not know there was still brick available on the streets. I had heard that the cartels in Mexico had started greenhouses in which to grow grade and that is what is being brought now. I see there point if they are risking moving that then why move low price and grade when they can make more with grade.One question why would a LNPP never compress their medicine? There are many strains that have real airie buds and something has to be done. Have you ever heard of Thai sticks? Maybe the LNPP's might not be using any of those strains but there are some and the cannabis they produce is very good.

ALFONSO thanks for the good work you do here.
Below is an answer to your question: "One question why would a LNPP never compress their medicine? "

- It destroys the aesthetics of all of our hard work and crushes the trichomes.

The only reason to compress "pot/brick weed" is to maximize the weight per capacity when illegally smuggling it into or around the states. LNPP's don't deal with 'pot' and they don't have these issues.

Can you explain what you mean when you say "There are many strains that have real airie buds and something has to be done"
What would you do? Compress airy medical cannabis buds like brick weed?

It begs the the old trick question: which weighs more an ounce of airy bud or and ounce of brick weed?

One final followup question: Help me out here because I'm trying to follow your logic....
If LNPP's tied airie buds to sticks would that make it better? or wouldn't you be paying more for the additional weight of sticks, string and the labor to tie it all up?

Thanks ahead of time for your answers and participation.

Have a great day!
-CannaHub

CannaHub thanks for the answer to my question on compression of bud.The only reason to compress is to maximize the weight .I beg to differ with you on that.I myself like to "cure" my buds for at least 3 months. there are methods on curing that do involve compressing the buds.You also say "It destroys the aesthetics of all of our hard work and crushes the trichomes. I don't think that you damage the trics too much as far as I have seen. Also a cure that is done properly will have better flavor and effect.As far as bag appeal is that what people want? I personally am not that swayed by it. The effect it what I look for.As for your last question No it will not make it any better. But you say It destroys the aesthetics of all of our hard work and crushes the trichomes again back to the bag appeal thing. I know that producers do no have the time to cure bud for that amount of time and also the labor that is involved has to be considered. I guess what it comes down to is personal choice. Do not take offense at any of my postings they are not meant to cause any trouble.

Slow on thoughts today but can you help me out here and tell me what qualifies as medical grade?

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Slow on thoughts today but can you help me out here and tell me what qualifies as medical grade?

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As a licensed medical patient with only 3 years under my belt, Iâ??m sure I do not qualify as an expert. To answer your question I can only refer to my limited experience and personal preference. That being said, I think we all know the difference between medical cannabis and â??weed/potâ?� when we come across it. You know it the minute you smell it, break it up/grind it and the moment you try it. Most times you can tell just by looking at it. Some times itâ??s harder to tell, until you try it. It could be the tingle on the back of the roof of your mouth, or the constant need to cough when you take a hit half way through a joint. Maybe itâ??s the tingle on your lips, or worse yet the headache you get right after you smoke. We all know when we have bad weed.

Medical grade is more then just the product. Medical grade is being able to purchase legal medication from a licensed professional without the threat of being ripped off or arrested. In New Mexico, medical cannabis is grown organically and is free of pathogens, mould, mildew, pesticides, or non-organic matter.

Medical cannabis is purchased from, or delivered by a licensed representative who has passed federal background checks and is HIPAA certified to handle patientâ??s confidential information.

Yes, Iâ??m sure there is good weed on the street. And at any given moment it may be cheaper then what LNPPâ??s can afford to sell it for. Or not. Two of the older producers have proven that with time and the support of patients, the price of medical cannabis will come down and be more affordable for many New Mexicans.

As a patient, I can understand if someone is hurting and all they can afford is weed. No decent person could find another at fault for doing what they need to do to, just to get by. The law however, doesnâ??t care how bad someone is hurting. In their eyes, the law is the law. IMHO this is precisely where the rubber meets the road in the difference between pot and medical cannabis. For me personally it is worth the hassle and at times added expense, to work strictly within the NM medical cannabis system. My health and my liberty are not worth risking

-CannaHub

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CannaHub thanks for the answer to my question on compression of bud.The only reason to compress is to maximize the weight .I beg to differ with you on that.I myself like to "cure" my buds for at least 3 months. there are methods on curing that do involve compressing the buds.You also say "It destroys the aesthetics of all of our hard work and crushes the trichomes. I don't think that you damage the trics too much as far as I have seen. Also a cure that is done properly will have better flavor and effect.As far as bag appeal is that what people want? I personally am not that swayed by it. The effect it what I look for.As for your last question No it will not make it any better. But you say It destroys the aesthetics of all of our hard work and crushes the trichomes again back to the bag appeal thing. I know that producers do no have the time to cure bud for that amount of time and also the labor that is involved has to be considered. I guess what it comes down to is personal choice. Do not take offense at any of my postings they are not meant to cause any trouble.

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I think we are talking about two different things here.
Compressing and curing.
I'm not aware of any curing method that involves compressing. But then again I have only been licensed for 3 years and as I have stated before I am not an expert. I have been taught that curing takes time, a controlled environment including heat, humidity and most importantly controlled air movement to facilitate the proper oxidization (curing) of the buds. If there is a methode that includes compressing buds, tell me about it, I'm all ears.

I can tell you this: Medication (Buds) that have been handled roughly, loose a great deal of trichomes. Trichomes are very fragil and break off very easily. My point is if you throw a bunch of weed in a trash compactor (brick weed) all you are ever going to get is a bunch of trash. Unless you knew what the weed was like before it was smashed and compressed you can never really appreciate how much medication was lost.

If you doubt me, try this at home. Take a few grams of good bud and place them on a silkscreen over a piece of clean glass and simply trim the buds (give the a slight hair cut). When you are done, remove the silkscreen and scrape the surface of the glass with a stiff business card. That pile of dust you just scraped up is pure trichomes or keif. this is exactly what you are missing from weed that has been mishandeld or compressed. Still doubt me? Try the same experiment with brick weed. Guess what? there will be very little trichomes, if any at all. You see it's not really about how a bud looks, it's about how well it's been handled and how much has NOT been lost due to rough handling.

Still unsure? Try this: pick up a magnifying glass or a microscope and compair a compressed bud verses an uncompressed bud. note the lack of trichomes on the compressed bud.

Curing for three months is awesome! When I harvest my personal grow I always go for the long cure, it just tastes better to me. I would like it if LNPP's offered a double cured medication, one that has been cured for 4 to 6 months. If you have ever tasted a good Lemon Sour Diesel that has been cured for 6 months, you know what I'mn talking about..... Oh sweet lemon goodness!

Peace out and thanks for all you do!
-CannaHub

[quote=CannaHub]I think we are talking about two different things here.
Compressing and curing.
I'm not aware of any curing method that involves compressing. But then again I have only been licensed for 3 years and as I have stated before I am not an expert. I have been taught that curing takes time, a controlled environment including heat, humidity and most importantly controlled air movement to facilitate the proper oxidization (curing) of the buds. If there is a methode that includes compressing buds, tell me about it, I'm all ears.

I can tell you this: Medication (Buds) that have been handled roughly, loose a great deal of trichomes. Trichomes are very fragil and break off very easily. My point is if you throw a bunch of weed in a trash compactor (brick weed) all you are ever going to get is a bunch of trash. Unless you knew what the weed was like before it was smashed and compressed you can never really appreciate how much medication was lost.

If you doubt me, try this at home. Take a few grams of good bud and place them on a silkscreen over a piece of clean glass and simply trim the buds (give the a slight hair cut). When you are done, remove the silkscreen and scrape the surface of the glass with a stiff business card. That pile of dust you just scraped up is pure trichomes or keif. this is exactly what you are missing from weed that has been mishandeld or compressed. Still doubt me? Try the same experiment with brick weed. Guess what? there will be very little trichomes, if any at all. You see it's not really about how a bud looks, it's about how well it's been handled and how much has NOT been lost due to rough handling.

Still unsure? Try this: pick up a magnifying glass or a microscope and compair a compressed bud verses an uncompressed bud. note the lack of trichomes on the compressed bud.

Curing for three months is awesome! When I harvest my personal grow I always go for the long cure, it just tastes better to me. I would like it if LNPP's offered a double cured medication, one that has been cured for 4 to 6 months. If you have ever tasted a good Lemon Sour Diesel that has been cured for 6 months, you know what I'mn talking about..... Oh sweet lemon goodness!

Peace out and thanks for all you do!
-CannaHub[/QUOTE

this is an old oriental way of curing buds. they were originally brought back by soldiers who were stationed in Thailand and thus the name "thai stick" the cured bud is so strong that many people thought that they were dipped in opium, though that not true. thai sticks are deceptively simple to make and can be stored almost indefinitely. they consist of buds that have had a bamboo sliver or skewer ran through them and cured.

the proses

Step 1 - after drying pull out your medium quality buds, less is also possibal but i save those 4 hash and top quality is wasted on this.

Step 2 - find some bamboo skewers or just use the stems from your plant, and run about 6-12 inches on to the stick

Step 3 - wrap tightly in plastic completely be sure it is compleatly sealed and wrap as tight as you can with duck tape

Step 4 - dig a hole about 4 ft. deep and place the sticks in the bottom of the hole. if you have more than will fit you can layer with dirt, just make sure there is dirt between them.

step 5 - wait about 3 months and dig up, the buds will have become almost hash like and solid with resin.

and tada you have thai sticks, i know it sounds odd but if you try it, you won't be let down. in my experence a singal hit of thai stick is enough 2 put any hardened smoker firmly on his/her ass, not for the week at heart. Now you do have to be sure of how much moistuer is in the buds or you might have a problem with mold.

Case in point. You are never too old to learn something - every day
Thanks for the run down. I'll give it a shot when I harvest my personal grow this fall. Early February, I'll let you know how it turned out.
Stranger things have proven true and if it works, ......why the heck not try?

Peace - CannaHub