What's a Traditional Family

There's a hysteria in America. A hysteria about what's become known as "the traditional family" and the desperate urgency to "save" it. And this rallying cry is not just coming from right wing conservatives and religious groups in the Red States (although, they're doing their share of tub-thumping.) The media (advertisers) and the government also have a vested interest in perpetuating the traditional concept of family: mother, father, two kids, dog and picket fence. But this hysteria is ignoring a key fact...

The "traditional family" is bullshit.

The traditional family structure may be for some, but it isn't for everyone. Shouldn't we stop trying to jam square pegs into round holes?


A lot of topics in the politics form revolved around a "Traditional Family". "What's healthy for a family" I got questioning myself what is a traditional family. And the from the research I have gathered, it DOESNT EXIST.

A Traditional 'Nuclear' family, you know a mom, dad, a somewhere between 1-3 kids is a rare thing now a days. A staggering amount of "Families" are co-habitial (in other words, they're swingers, and raise children at the same time) a lot of children live in a single parent home and some even don't even live with either parents. Divorce is on the rise. More than 50 percent of marriages end in seperation. Times are changing and so are familys as they have through out history.

Through out history the term "Family" has had many different meanings. Marriage has been pre-determined to please the parent's and grandparents. Some husbands have had dozens and dozens of wives with lots and lots of children. And these family's during the time were considered normal.

Then there are Gay Families. Studies have been done and suggest that Gay family wanting children, are usually older and more committed to provide for their children. It's sad to blame one group of people for the downfall or destruction for a traditional family. Even though a family with a male and female partners are more prone to co-habition, cheating, spousal abuse and divorce, According to studies.

There isn't one type of family that is more prones to success than the others

So to label what a family should be soley on what YOU believe is traditional and healthy is pretty fucking ignorant. In other words it's bullshit

Wow, I agree. The whole idea of the "Perfect family" is bullshit. A family that appears nice on the outside, on the inside they are probably molesting thier kids and beating the wife. In my opinion, it is somewhat laughable that people even care about this crap. It's not your family, so how the hell are you going to change it? Work on your own family and stop worrying about others. Stop trying to control other people's lives.

On the gay family issue, I just have to say THANK THE JESUS AND THE BUDDHA that I wasnt adopted by gays b/c #1, they would probhably turn you gay and #2, boy would you get made fun of in school..... "hey look it's Ben, he has 2 daddies!!! ROFL!!!" Boy that would suck.

Same with the idea of "sanctity of marriage". If there remains any vestige of sanctity of marriage through divorce, abuse and adultery than it is between two consenting and loving adults. What a stupid, archaic idea.

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Originally Posted by XTC

There's a hysteria in America. A hysteria about what's become known as "the traditional family" and the desperate urgency to "save" it. And this rallying cry is not just coming from right wing conservatives and religious groups in the Red States (although, they're doing their share of tub-thumping.) The media (advertisers) and the government also have a vested interest in perpetuating the traditional concept of family: mother, father, two kids, dog and picket fence. But this hysteria is ignoring a key fact...

The "traditional family" is bullsh*t.

The traditional family structure may be for some, but it isn't for everyone. Shouldn't we stop trying to jam square pegs into round holes?


A lot of topics in the politics form revolved around a "Traditional Family". "What's healthy for a family" I got questioning myself what is a traditional family. And the from the research I have gathered, it DOESNT EXIST.

A Traditional 'Nuclear' family, you know a mom, dad, a somewhere between 1-3 kids is a rare thing now a days. A staggering amount of "Families" are co-habitial (in other words, they're swingers, and raise children at the same time) a lot of children live in a single parent home and some even don't even live with either parents. Divorce is on the rise. More than 50 percent of marriages end in seperation. Times are changing and so are familys as they have through out history.

Through out history the term "Family" has had many different meanings. Marriage has been pre-determined to please the parent's and grandparents. Some husbands have had dozens and dozens of wives with lots and lots of children. And these family's during the time were considered normal.

Then there are Gay Families. Studies have been done and suggest that Gay family wanting children, are usually older and more committed to provide for their children. It's sad to blame one group of people for the downfall or destruction for a traditional family. Even though a family with a male and female partners are more prone to co-habition, cheating, spousal abuse and divorce, According to studies.

There isn't one type of family that is more prones to success than the others

So to label what a family should be soley on what YOU believe is traditional and healthy is pretty f*cking ignorant. In other words it's bullsh*t

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Howdy XTC,

The liberal media,has made you cynical and pessimistic,there are more 'traditional' families,than what the liberal media has lead you to believe. Most certainly,the traditional family,is under constant attack from the liberal media and secular humanists on the Left,as well as attacks from the Left,towards family's of Faith. Radical gay activists,are at war with traditional families,and as a part of their 'battle-plan',have targetted those children of Faith at school,trying their best,to introduce confusion and doubt,into those children and usurp parental authority and perogatives.

When I was growing up,there were alot more,normal and traditional families,but with the onset of modern liberalism,those families have been under contant attack from the amoral Left. Maybe you're not old enough,to really understand the issue..I have almost 5 decades of life experience to draw upon,and the history to go along with it.

I will continue to fight for the 'traditional' family,because it's the building block,of a good and successful society..the Left,builds their house on a foundation of sand..we on the Right,build our houses on a foundation of rock..it's just that simple.

Have a good one....

No Torog, it isnt

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

No Torog, it isnt

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Howdy GhostToker,

It ain't what ?

Have a good one...

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy XTC,

The liberal media,has made you cynical and pessimistic,there are more 'traditional' families,than what the liberal media has lead you to believe. Most certainly,the traditional family,is under constant attack from the liberal media and secular humanists on the Left,as well as attacks from the Left,towards family's of Faith. Radical gay activists,are at war with traditional families,and as a part of their 'battle-plan',have targetted those children of Faith at school,trying their best,to introduce confusion and doubt,into those children and usurp parental authority and perogatives.

When I was growing up,there were alot more,normal and traditional families,but with the onset of modern liberalism,those families have been under contant attack from the amoral Left. Maybe you're not old enough,to really understand the issue..I have almost 5 decades of life experience to draw upon,and the history to go along with it.

I will continue to fight for the 'traditional' family,because it's the building block,of a good and successful society..the Left,builds their house on a foundation of sand..we on the Right,build our houses on a foundation of rock..it's just that simple.

Have a good one....

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george bush has done more than clinton when it comes to breaking up the family, and making the 'state' the authority. i know you don't like to look at actions and only listen to rhetoric though, so this will never get through to you.

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy XTC,

The liberal media,has made you cynical and pessimistic

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Radical gay activists,are at war with traditional families,and as a part of their 'battle-plan',have targetted those children of Faith at school,trying their best,to introduce confusion and doubt,into those children and usurp parental authority and perogatives.


Have a good one....

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Nah, I have always been Cynical, even before I took an interest in politics. And as for the Evil Empire of Gay Activists I would love to hear your source for this Misinformation. Come On Fess up. You read it on the Tabloids.

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy GhostToker,

It ain't what ?

Have a good one...

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It isn't that simple, that's what I meant, regarding your post.

The traditional family is what exactly? That's what i'd like to know? Surely a traditional family would be a family of hard working, law abiding people? So by smoking weed, Torog, you are breaking the law and therefore ruining the traditional family and society is going to be destroyed and everyone's going to die and hell-fire and brimstone and evil gays and lesbians everywhere and blah blah blah

Torog, you say that families decades ago were much different now. This is my point exactly. And it isnt due to Democrats and Liberals. Its due to how things are changing around the world. How much more demanding life is now. A lifestyle of a family will always be a ever changing. It may not be what you think is healthy, but it doesnt mean its going to cripple America. People just have to adjust.

Your statements on the traditional family, Torog, are ridiculous to say the least. Much like most of your other views, what is "traditional" in your eyes is nothing but a media induced ideology of the American dream which, in reality, is very much a myth.

Americans like yourself want the whole world to work around them and their ideas. Why should a family need a certain number of kids and a large house to be traditional? If that's seriously what you've been led to believe then there's less hope for you and your country then I thought. Why should the concept of family have traditions in the first place? Should a widow with a single child feel ashamed she wasn't able to fulfill your bullshit fantasy for you? A family is about love, not fitting into your ridiculous TV sitcom image. Your constant reference to gay activists (presumably normal people who, by being homosexual, are activists) just shows how little your life experience has paid off. For someone who fought for the rights of others, you show very little patience for them. Try turning off the TV and opening your eyes for a change.

I don't mean to offend, but the fact is you do Torog, quite often actually.

What's healthy for a family? Nothing but love and companionship, I will always stick by that "tradition" in particular.

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Originally Posted by Button Basher

Your statements on the traditional family, Torog, are ridiculous to say the least. Much like most of your other views, what is "traditional" in your eyes is nothing but a media induced ideology of the American dream which, in reality, is very much a myth.

Americans like yourself want the whole world to work around them and their ideas. Why should a family need a certain number of kids and a large house to be traditional? If that's seriously what you've been led to believe then there's less hope for you and your country then I thought. Why should the concept of family have traditions in the first place? Should a widow with a single child feel ashamed she wasn't able to fulfill your bullshit fantasy for you? A family is about love, not fitting into your ridiculous TV sitcom image. Your constant reference to gay activists (presumably normal people who, by being homosexual, are activists) just shows how little your life experience has paid off. For someone who fought for the rights of others, you show very little patience for them. Try turning off the TV and opening your eyes for a change.

I don't mean to offend, but the fact is you do Torog, quite often actually.

What's healthy for a family? Nothing but love and companionship, I will always stick by that "tradition" in particular.

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what a sucker,thats all i can get out right now.

You know i'm all up for a good, old political argument Amsterdam, right as soon as you offer one.

Right now, all I see is a cocky schoolboy.

cocky yes,school boy no.

what would you like to debate?

'traditions' don't exist. Everything is invented.

my family plays poker every thanksgiving and has for 20 years,its our tradition.

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

cocky yes,school boy no.

what would you like to debate?

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Why my views render me a 'sucker'.

I'd also like to debate with you XTC's points which I agree with whole-heartedly but obviously you don't. What are your thoughts on the "traditional" family? Does your family fit into Torog's vision? If not, why do you agree with him?

It's all there.

my family values i believe would differ from torogs alot.he is a super conservative .i am just a right leaning republican(pro-choice,could care less about gay issues)

Oooh kay.

Sooo... Why am I a sucker?

Also, do you really care about any of these discussions? Or are you just driven by a hate for Liberals ('cause i'm neither side)? Just a little confused here.

ok,you are no sucker.when i first came to this site all it was was anti -bush crazy hysterical garbage.i am on the other side and will say so.seriously stupid conspiracy crap put out to entertain not inform and i got sick of it.

i dont hate anyone at all.i just think super-left wing people(not democrats) believe they have a real following when they dont.they are bomb throwers who believe america is a bad place.they are wrong.millions upon millions upon millions of immigrants cant be wrong.

Ahmen to that Amstredam

On another note... I would love to hear a consise argument of how the hell Gay marriage, or the "attack upon families by the left" affects you. The fact is, it doesn't, so why do you care? Oh ya I forgot people love control other people's lives, because they know what's better for them then they do.

oh yes,big govt. is always the answer isnt it.

no..... quite the opposite.

BTW, whats up with your avatar Amsterdam? Tips on suicide? Christ, use a gun or your car, it'll hurt less.

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Originally Posted by Hydrizzle

no..... quite the opposite.

BTW, whats up with your avatar Amsterdam? Tips on suicide? Christ, use a gun or your car, it'll hurt less.

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i was kidding big time!!

my avatar is just a joke.

i agree,wrap your lips around a revolver like everyone else.i thought the avatar was funny.

Okay man just making sure i didn't have to call the suicide help line...

hahahah,i would never do that,life is too good.why take the pussy way out.