Let me break out before I break down

The day I met Luc i dident look at him the way I do now...Never have I thought one day i'de be crying over something imaginary, something I spent 4 months dreaming and planning my future for. All now bullshit. When i thought my mind was such a innocent, beautiful, mysterious thing its all gone to hell now. My heart has been breaking since the day my step father said aload its discusting for a muslim women to marry a non believer. And lately my life has been full of God, Luc, and pot. I never saw any point in worrying about anything else. But now that i know the answer that i feared to be true I cant spend the rest of my life with luc. I dont want to be here having a relationship with someone that I love and loves me and we both want to be together forever and then have to split up in the end. Not that our hearts couldent be any more hurt. I dont see why i ever tried to get close to someone because int he end I keep having to go away...breaking all of our hearts...making something live, dead. And for since January 15 I thought I was happy...I dont want to fall in love anymore.

Well, sounds like suicide is the only option here.

Just kidding. xD

lol im too old to give into such selfish actions. Suicide wouldent make anything better.

Im still holding onto hope...

THIS PISSES ME OFF.

you have every fucking right to be with who you want. the only one ruining it is you.
fuck what your parents say.

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what im tryin to say is that if its a good relationship and you both think youre in love.. your parents cant ruin it; only you can.

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Originally Posted by narkotic

THIS PISSES ME OFF.

you have every fucking right to be with who you want. the only one ruining it is you.
fuck what your parents say.

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what im tryin to say is that if its a good relationship and you both think youre in love.. your parents cant ruin it; only you can.

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It aint got anything to do with my parents. Its forbidden for a muslim women to marry a non believer. No love for any person isent anything compaired to love for Allah. Thats wats it a bout. I wanna please god because I want to go to paradise where I can live forever happily, get high if I wanna get high, swim with dolphins, and spend my hours talking to prphets and messangers of God. Whats better than that? Im just trying to do what god put me here to do. Its not easy but I pray to Allah he gives me strength. Its got nothing to do with my parents. Just Allah and me. I just need strength...

why is that ?
i know alot of moslem men that have married christian women are there different standards for men ?Also if you are an adult and in love with any race or religion should not matter because what should matter is your own happiness.I know its hard (especially for a moslem woman) but sometimes you need to take control rather that letting the males in your life be superior to you.Moslem fathers and older brothers think they know whats best for you but you should go with your heart and dont be scared to do what you like.I wish you luck as it would be hard for you.I have had moslem girl friends that i grew up with and there fathers and brothers were very strict but the moslem mothers were really cool and nice.If you marry a moslem man you wont have alot of freedom but i guess its what you have to do ?

Because Muslim women are obligated to do as their husbands say. In order to keep peace, and love in the household. But if a muslim women marries a non believer then what would she do if he tells her to serve pork or alcohal at the dinner table? Children in islam take their fathers names, fathers blood, and beleifs. Although Luc wouldent ask of me to do such things its still forbidden. We have no right to question god. What god says, goes. We werent put on earth to be happy, shit if that were true i'de go out and find me some smack. But i know my rights and wrongs I have no intention in doing wrong.

wow. i dont get it.

ill start here. i may be young, but please read at list what i have to say.

You know, you got only 1 life? im right eh? so if your a beleiver, god gave you this life. thats a gift. life is given to you? why? existential question... all what we know is to be happy. so what i wanna say is: whatever god u beleive in, dont u think what he wants the most deeply is you to be happy? to you think you wont go to "paradise" because u marry or live with sum1 that has different touhgts, whatever??

seriously, u have 1 life, dont waste it coz of a book sayin u cant do it or your parents or whatever. im sure what god only fuckin wants, if he exist or not, i to be happy and to do our best to make others too. anyway, thats your life, but u should think of it really.

peace and happiness

Smoking is also taboo for muslim women, true?

Yeah god wants me to be happy, but be happy doing what he has comanded me to do. Its just that I let someone into my life when I really should have avioded those emotions until I am much older. Thjats what god put me here o but I was to busy thinking only about things i want and not the things i was suposed to do.

Thanks guys this is really helping me get things out. I...well when I talk to Luc about it he doesent seem to make any effort to want to be reasonable...we both just dont have the heart to say its over............well in our hearts it burns more than ever. I wish one day he might become a believer too and then we could be together forever but if he does I dont want him to do it for me, I want him to do it for himself and god.

I tried talking to my mom but all she tels me is what I dident want to hear...im not asking her anything about this from now on...life sure is a bitch sometimes! :mad:

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Smoking is also taboo for muslim women, true?

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i have no idea...i guess not because it does harm to my body. But one thing at a time...besides im not so concered about something I can stop in one secound than something that will take time to change.

Wouldn't God want you to have love for yourself along with him? He put you on earth as a creation, not as his slave. You must think, the Qu' Ran was written a long time ago, when women were not as high as men on the social pyramid. Same with Christianity or just about any other religion. I personally am Buddhist and respect all religions and prophets. I'm really not trying to bash your religion, but if God does everything for a reason, and he made you love Luc, then is he doing it to torture you? Ask yourself that.



P.S. If you answer he is testing you, shouldn't the almighty KNOW if you have faith in him? His law was written by MAN not by his hand.

Just trying to give you an example Dark. I was raised in an extreme Christian doctrine, so I understand to a degree. But how far do ya let it go? Would you wear the Burkha? In my background we couldn't wear makeup, jewelry, or cut our hair, ever. Women have to wear skirts or dresses and the man is the head of the home. Husbands must be approved by family and the Pastor. No Dancing, no cards, no music unless it's in praise of God. No Smoking, No drinking, no coffee, no tv allowed. Follow what's best for YOU, and I'll pray that you're happy. Kuu

Ah..So many things I want to say and so many things I'm going to say. First of all, I personally don't beleive in God or a god. I beleive we all have a spirit, yes. But I refuse to beleive that one superior power rules us all. But I'm not here to change your beleifs, I can respect the fact you choose to beleive.

But, God - would want you to be happy? Would he not. I can't beleive that your god that you worship and respect greatly would banish you to 'hell' for love. Even though that's what the book says, how can you know exactly what god wants? You can't, not until you die and go and "meet your maker". You live your life to be happy and to fall inlove, I beleive that's the ultimate purpose for being here, weather we be put here by your god or someone else's or through the process of evolution or the 10,000 other theories out their - to find the one you love. Enjoy your life and fall in love and go with it. If it were me, I would'nt lose someone I love.

Anyway, I hope you end up happy, I don't know you too well. But your a good person and you deserve to be happy, so good luck.

Richie, you sound almost like a muslim yourself lol. I dont know all the answers to my stuation, I find it hard that something so good is forbidden but I AM gods slave. He created me. He is first before all others. I heard god loves those he challenges most. I do believ he knows how faithful to him...but then why dont I make my salat five times a day...or any at all? I dont now all the answers but i will find out my own dystany someday. Weither Luc is in it or not. I cant go through these changes alone and Luc and I are partners and we're gunna work things out. I believe since we love eachother so much anything we do can be possable or permissable...hopefully something changes. Anything at all...

BTW, If I werent muslim i'de be buddhist. You know Muslims believe Buddah to be a prophet. He was very wise and peaceful man.

Im really interested in what Lulu has to say...lulu could you give me some advice? Or ocram? Ghostoker? perhaps torog?

I really appreciate everybodys replys, especaily Kuu and richie. Thanks so much guys!!!

ah yes and thanks to Jackie as well. ;)

I guess i've never thought of myself sounding like a muslim before, lol. But basically what i'm saying is, if god put you on this earth, why would he need you as his slave? It makes no sense to me. I'm not a huge "go to church, pray every nite, don't laugh at blasphemy, swearing isn't funny" sort of guy but i know enough about god to know that if he did put us on this earth, then it was for our hapiness, not so that were his slave. If we were his slaves, why is there free will?

I dunno...i really have no intention of doing anything but trying to please my creator...thats all im doing. and if i do that i should be happy. But im not so only time will tell. Just a while lot of waiting...waiting to get out of school, get this court shit finished, and die.............dunno but if I wnat to do anything in this world is to make god proud of me and then my family proud of me, and then Luc proud of me. lol sound slike my life should be simpler if I did that. No worrys cuz I know if I die im gunna be in paradise with everyone that I sorounded myself with on earth and if I choose to be around those people im sure they too will go to were I will. I just dont know...I feel better tho. I feel like if I just focuz on right now with religion, school, and my behavior then i should be the happiest person alive. I'll smoke to that! or uh pray for it at least.

"We werent put on earth to be happy"

Who the hell says we werent? Fuck that. Im gonna spend my short time here being as happy as i possibly can. Fuck anybody who tries to stop me.

PS: People who say 'we werent put here to be happy' piss me off almost as much as people who say 'life isnt about having fun' or 'life is about responsibility'. fuck you. if you wanna live your life like that than fine, but dont bring me down.

Darkneon, listen.. its up to YOU how you live your life. If you feel that you can still be faithful to your religion while going out with a guy who isnt also a Muslim, then go ahead and do it.

you cut my qoute off ghostoker! Listen theres a diffrence a between our beliefs and one that differs you and I is that non believers(Not all course) seem to think they can fuck everyone they fancy, become alcohalics, beat their children/ wives, etc. Course there are some ppl that call themslves mslims (Ex: Terriorists) but they still do things that is wrong so they are not on the right Islamic path. I clearly stated (If you have read thouroghly) that anyone who does what allah comands them to do they should be happy and if not they aret really very faithful are they? Im new in Islam and im still growing and so are many muslims (even some that have been muslim all their lives). I did not mean at all what you stated I have said Ghostoker and I never will.

so yeah anyone who wants to fuck their bestfriends mom can go ahead without me. I'll be studying for stupid health class!

Seriously GT I dident say that at all!

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Originally Posted by Darkneon420

Because Muslim women are obligated to do as their husbands say. In order to keep peace, and love in the household. But if a muslim women marries a non believer then what would she do if he tells her to serve pork or alcohal at the dinner table? Children in islam take their fathers names, fathers blood, and beleifs. Although Luc wouldent ask of me to do such things its still forbidden. We have no right to question god. What god says, goes. We werent put on earth to be happy, shit if that were true i'de go out and find me some smack. But i know my rights and wrongs I have no intention in doing wrong.

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read the whole sentance GT not part of it.
and read the sentance after it too. :)

Oy, don't know how to say this without sounding insulting, but please understand that is not the spirit or intent behind it, k? Now then, ahem: isn't it sort of conceited for people to believe that an all-powerful & awesome God *needs* anything from us? Such as obedience to a very specific set of regulations? It seems that by attributing such demands to God, we belittle, restrict, & limit the infinite power of the Almighty. This seems rather insulting to God. I absolutely believe in a Higher Power, but it seems that many of the manifestations currently recognized throughout the world serve to bring this Power into a bite-size form with neat rules & regulations. Also, it's of note that religion relies on man-written texts to convey spiritual 'truth'. If these 'truths' were really from God, would a human medium be necessary? Wouldn't they just be engraved in our hearts & souls? I do believe that the Almighty, with infinite power & wisdom, is quite capable of such unquestionable declarations.

Again, not trying to belittle you or your beliefs, just some food for thought. :) I am sorry to hear of your anguish, & hope for you all the love, peace, & enlightenment one can attain.

I'm with ghostoker, be happy. I don't think that one superior being can rule us all and not been seen or heard in some way. But again - I'm not here to judge your beleifs.

I just think you should do what your heart tells you.

juggalette what nationality are u?

I'm totally with Mellow on this one (you're the man, man).
Anyway, there's an easy sollution to this...Get rid of religion in your life; it's a waste of time anyway.

Im here to do good...and as long as I do that i'll be happy. Theres nothing wrong with being happy, i dident mean what I said at all.

I love Luc...i couldent possablly just never see him again. He's always there for me, and i'll be there for him. Just as long as I choose better actions. My well being is important, as of everybody elses.

Oreo, im american. My mothers from spain, and my fathers french canadain. I am a revert to Islam.

Wooo! Good choice darkneon.

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Originally Posted by Darkneon420

Because Muslim women are obligated to do as their husbands say. In order to keep peace, and love in the household. But if a muslim women marries a non believer then what would she do if he tells her to serve pork or alcohal at the dinner table? Children in islam take their fathers names, fathers blood, and beleifs. Although Luc wouldent ask of me to do such things its still forbidden. We have no right to question god. What god says, goes. We werent put on earth to be happy, shit if that were true i'de go out and find me some smack. But i know my rights and wrongs I have no intention in doing wrong.

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BETTER GO GET A BURKHA STOP SMOKIN DOPE AND FIND A NICE GUY NAMED SAHIB.... :D

HEY KID HOW CAN YOU GO CONVENTIONAL MOSLEM WHEN YOU HANG OUT HERE??

FORGET IT KID ITLL NEVER WORK

IF THATS WHAT ISLAM SAYS THEN FUCK ISLAM

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Originally Posted by Looker

BETTER GO GET A BURKHA STOP SMOKIN DOPE AND FIND A NICE GUY NAMED SAHIB.... :D

HEY KID HOW CAN YOU GO CONVENTIONAL MOSLEM WHEN YOU HANG OUT HERE??

FORGET IT KID ITLL NEVER WORK

IF THATS WHAT ISLAM SAYS THEN FUCK ISLAM

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That was a little mean... I personally don't believe in any religion at all, but we still need to respect those who do. If her faith wasn't important to her, she wouldn't be having this problem.

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Originally Posted by F L E S H

That was a little mean... I personally don't believe in any religion at all, but we still need to respect those who do. If her faith wasn't important to her, she wouldn't be having this problem.

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Yeah sorry darkneon....

Any religion like the she dont need...........

Sorry.......

Ya gotta admit dude Islam is kinda fucked up that way dont you think??

Im tolerant just like you but is that type of Islam tolerant of us???

I would in no way wish to offend you or your faith, okay?
But if you want to email me your address there's a book I'd like you to read.

That said, you have an obligation to yourself and God, remember that, to live your life the best way you can. You just have to find out what's best for you.

You want my opinion? They've been trying to pull that shit on women forever. Fuck that, we're all equal in the eyes of God. In your home noone should be 'above' you. Your happiness and fullfilment are just as important as your husbands, anyone who tries to tell you different is trying to keep you down. Only you know wot you can live with and without. Best of luck, Lulu xx
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