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I have been trying to germinate 5 PokKushXNebula seeds for about a week now and they are being very stubborn. I have them soaking in a glass filled with room temperature water but so far nothing. Is it possible that this strain just takes an absurdly long time to germinate or are there other ways i can get that tap root to start emerging... thanks!
Well i realized something with seeds, someimes the seed shell is too thick, or too hard, and some streams have problems with germination, cuz they cant absorb enough water.
This technique has gave me an amazing succesfull rate.
1st put the seeds in a water glass for 24 hrs, make it sink
2nd if it hast spread, take a very sharp blade, and cratch the sides of the seeds, (to make the sides of the seed thinner) do not scrath it too much or youll kill it, and when you do it do not press the seed too hard or you are gonna break it.
3rd put the seed again in water 24 hrs, it will at some moment of this crack, and show the tip of the root.
4th put it inside the soil, with this tip looking down, in the must vertical way as possible.
***Do not touch the root tip!!! do not try to help the seed opening it, youll kill it.
and if you got another question just post it, and be carefull dont do anything if you didnt understand me well...
Im not really sure what you mean by scratch the sides of the seeds...
He means scrape the seed with a sharp blade to take a layer off the shell so it's less thick, allowing it to absorb moisture properly so it can germinate. I've never had to do this though and I don't think I would do it.
try using fine sandpaper instead of a scapel or razor blade, basicly its alot harder to fuck up using sandpaper for this, and its not the actual shell you want to sand paper, its the seal or line between where the seed shell sides meet.
Ok, I think I understand now... if i were to just leave them in water, even if the shells were really thick, would they eventually sprout a tap root? Or are some seeds just doomed to sit in the water until I interveine?
yes thanks, well you can use sand paper as well, i personally preffer a sharp blade, its easyer for me, but you can use any of both techniques, and exactly by the seals of the seed, where both shells meet.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTC21
If you let it in water for a loooong time, maybe it will never sprout, i had like 5 seeds long time ago soaked in water for like about 3 weeks or so i dont really remember, and nothing ever happend.
If you do this youll get a germination right away normally... :p ;)
or ya could just do it the old fashioned way which has worked for millenia for millions of farmers...plant directly into the soil, half inch below surface and keep moist...never soaked, never dry. it's how i do it...
true, del....I've never heard of putting a seed down in a jar of water anyways...the root trying to come out needs some air...I've ALWAYS gotten a sprout from putting the seed in a few folded wet paper towels...I think they like that solid medium to actually dig into...I've never put them directly in the soil, but I imagine that would work best or just like the paper towel...they wanna dig, I had a sprout dig all the way through the paper towel before!
Well dont just be critic with my technic why dont you try it and see it by yourself if it works... the root needs air after a few days of sprouting, at the beggining it needs a big consentration of humidity
I'm gonna give it a shot, nothing to loose right? Ill let you know how it goes.
try 2 or 3, so if u mess u wont lose all your seeds. but sometimes seeds can take over a week to germinate, but normally take 2-3-4 days
JohnnyPotGrower
u need to change refresh (warm) clean or distilled water 2 every days when germinating ! at warm and dark room of cupboard or small closet room as whatever by use your imagination ! then u would be happy with that as i hope ! not good same water for over week when germinating are not good working out !
Try it man, youll see...Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyPotGrower
then please tell me here what happend ;)
Good seeds tend to sprout better, the seeds we initially started with from worldwideseeds.com had about a 95% germination success rate and about a 65% 75% female rate, good genetics makes growing alot easier.
Are you using tap water to germinate the seeds? The chlorine could have made it harder for it to germinate...you have to let the water sit in an open container or boil it to evaporate the chlorine...I always do this before watering my plants.
I have been changing the water, I am going to try the blade technique and ill leave a post tomorrow on how it went - thanks.
right ok ive read this thread and i have a few seeds in my hand which i need to germinate. is the below correct:
i) let some tap water sit for a while (like 24 hours) to get rid of the chlorine.
ii) add seeds
iii) wait for 24 hours to see if root tip appears
iv) if not then sandpaper/score with blade
v) plant them in soil
is that right??? i really need to start asap!
;)
this is how i do it but there's different ways:
1) evaporate the chlorine, the way you said, a quicker way would be to just boil the water rapidly for about 5 minutes and then let it get to room temperature before using it...
2) fold a few paper towels in half. pour the water over the paper towels, i find that you can nearly drown the seeds and they'll still germinate, but don't completely soak the towels.
3) place seeds on one side of folded paper towels, fold the other side over the side with the seeds gently, don't smush it down b/c of suffocation
4) you may have to wait more than 24 hours, but just check ever-so-often. keep these in a cool, dark place (in a drawer/closet) while the seeds try to germinate. KEEP THE TOWELS WET! if it dries, the seeds won't have the initiative to pop open. some seeds can take days and days to germinate.
5) once you see that the root has popped out of the seed, dig a SLIGHT finger-hole in your soil...place seed there, and sprinkle some LOOSE soil over it. don't worry too much about water here, just make sure the soil was moistened before you put the seed in it
6) wait, and wait, and maybe wait more...by this point, the sprout will take root and the other side of it will begin to grow UP, against gravity, it naturally finds its own way up...you should put your lighting on it now...
or you can just put the seeds slightly below the surface of the dirt, keep it lightly watered, and they'll do it on their own in the dirt, saves a lot of steps...just keep the soil pretty loose (don't pack it or push down on it).
that should get you started... ;)
thanks for the advice jadeius,
do you know if the seed/plant needs light at this stage?
1.- put the seed inside a water glass for 24 hrs
2.-scratch the sides with a blade, or sandpaper
3.- put the seed again 24 hours in water (the root tip will set free)
4.- once you see the tip plant it, tip facing down
heres the way i use with nearly 100% germ rate.
i use tap water but put through a water filter. i then heat water in microwave for 2 mins.
i plant seeds in half pint cups upto 1cm from top.
plant seeds in wet soil and cover cups with cling film then put cups on a reptile heat mat 48hrs later seeds are up..
this time i just germed 5 seeds straight into jiffy pellets in a propergator on the heat mat.
once again 48hrs later 100% germ rate..
sorry i have no idea what reptile heat mates are - ive let my seeds soak in quite a lot of water which was boiled and then cooled to room temp.
does the seed need heat at this stage, its been 24hours and they look the same as yesterday...
hopefully ill see something and be able to plant them in soil tomorrow!!!
3 days later and still no luck. Damn these seeds are really stubborn! I am going to change the water, check out the seeds, and possibly try scratching off another layer... does it ever get to the point where the seed begins to rot from being in water for so long? When do I give up on these fuckers and dish out more money for new ones?
I would say after a week or 2, if you have no signs of seed growth, ditch them and start again...
The whole idea of scratching the seeds is to emulate conditions in the seeds natural environment.
Its almost like a fail safe...
Some seeds wont actualy open untill they are subjected to a certain temperature / condition.
Try taking to them with a tiny bit of heat, or rub them on glass paper to take off a few layers of the outer shell.
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Just updating again, changed the water and put them near the ovens pilot light to try to see if some more warmth will coax them out. Not sure what else is going to work but I dont feel like waiting 10+days for an order of seeds to come to I'll keep trying... until then anymore advice would be great, thanks
im in the same boat as johnnyP - ive had the seeds in water for 2 days and REALLY need to plant them so something starts to grow. so far looks as though a few have enlargened but nothing major and waiting for weeks seems like too long - could i just plant them into some compost now? would it be worth it?
As i said before the seed crust can be too thick so if its not germinating scratch it some more, but just be carefull into not killing it...
Raman you can plant it, but only god will know if that is gonna work
I wouldn't keep it more than a day in water. I was having problems and found that when I put them in a warmer part of the house, like on top my PC case, I had two out of five sprout in a matter of a few hours. I guess the house temp of 65 - 70 was just not warm enough to simulate spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by raman
Another update
I took one seed and scratched through the entire shell so the very tip was slightly exposed... Ive planted that one and hope it will sprout, over night its done nothing. A second seed that I scratched, I put in between wet paper towells, but no change over night. The other 3 are still sitting in water so they soften up a little... this is torture.
im going to put the whole lot near something warm so hopefully that will encourage more of them to start shooting out. ill let you know if this works better later
I took one of the 3 still sitting in water and began to scratch off a layer of the shell. I was a little to aggressive and broke through the entire shell. I wasnt sure what to do but I planted the little white thing that was inside... it looked like the beggining of a tap root and the part that emerges from the soil to become the first leaves. So yea I planted that as if it were the germinated seed - ANYONE think it will grow?
i put my seeds in damp cheese cloth,in a warm dark place... normally germ within 5-7 days.
PEACE OUT HAPPY SMOKIN!!!!!!!
If this dosnt make your seeds to germinate, then you must ask for a refound where you bought them man, there is no other way you can make them germinate.... (that i know)