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Regardless of what the naysayers are saying, climate change, or global warming, how ever you wish to term it is happening. Below is from the National Weather Service. Forty-eight years since its been this cool in the Pacific Northwest. And the East Coast and the South are cooking early in June. :thumbsup:
Record in Eugene, Oregon on latest day to reach 80 degrees...
Eugene has yet to reach 80 degrees this year... breaking the latest
first occurrence record set June 19th in 1962.
Yes, it's real. Are we responsible for it? NO WAY. The volcanic eruption that just happened spewed more pollution into the air (and is still doing so just like the broken oil pipeline,) than we've done in the past century.
Milankovich Cycles, learn them, love them, live them, ignore all alarmists, because they're entirely wrong and don't have half a clue.
Now that I, and other scientists will not agree on. No way that volcano has put out more pollution then man has in the past century. Let's see the evidence. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by khyberkitsune
See the evidence? The last thing to effectively block out the sky like that was the Industrial Revolution, and even that wasn't as bad as the volcano. You don't need evidence, just knowledge of history. St. Helens, Vesuvius, the one in Iceland which I cannot spell, those three combined have dropped more carbon, nitrogen, and other particulate matter into our atmosphere than we have EVER come close to doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
We've only had real industry since after the dark ages. Those volcanoes were spewing pollutants WELL before we were ever here.
As I said, no evidence needed, just a decent history knowledge and some common sense. I'd list off other volcanoes but those were the most relevant ones, oh and then we can talk about the Tunguska meteorite which was 1/3 the power of Tsar Bomba, the most powerful thermonuclear device ever detonated.
Sorry, nature has hurt itself more than man ever will, unless we figure out how to crack the planet in half or totally wipe out our oceans.
Signed,
A Director of Research.
Sounds more like the junk science to me. Sorry, I don't buy it. I have a minor in geology so you can't blow that smoke and convince me. :D
Volcanos have the power to alter the earth quickly. However they eject (by weight) @80% ash. The ash has enough weight to settle to the ground ,though it may take many years to do so.
Greenhouse gasses we produce do not fall to the ground. And we make a LOT of CO2. We are dumping it out faster than the plantlife and oceans can use/handle it.
The thought that 6 billion people currently on this earth do not have the power to alter the natural environment is foolish.
Shit, what differerce does it make though? By the time it goes to hell, all of us will be dead. :thumbsup:
Nice word choosing there gyps........of course CLIMATE CHANGE is real.....MAN-MADE climate change IS NOT. Man is an insignificant speck on this giant planet of water and even ur almighty savior the Feds admit as much. They have NO clue....they cant even plug a hole in the gulf for heavens sake. Nobody....not BP.....not the govt.....not Harvard.....not M.I.T......nobody....yet somehow by miraculous studies these scientists have proved man is going to kill themselves off....in AL GORE's (global warming church elder) words by 2020........LAUGHABLE. There's a sucker born every second.
Envirowhackos must be getting desperate to bring their bogus science and flat out lies back into the news after their worldwide embarrassment in England.
"Envirowhackos must be getting desperate to bring their bogus science and flat out lies back into the news after their worldwide embarrassment in England."
Exactly this.
BTW Gyps, Minor in Geology != Doctorate in Climatology.
The scientists who got popped all had PHD's in climatology.....and they were ALL exaggerating and working together to sideline other PHD's who differed in the man-made global warming scam.Quote:
Originally Posted by khyberkitsune
The enviromentalist movement started nice enough, but was taken over by the socialist movement and marxists like the disgraced VAN JONES and turned into a mission to expand the govt and its control over our utilities.....Van Jones explained it in his own words on Video
YouTube - Van Jones Video Collection Montage - Obama's self admitted Communist Green Jobs Czar
And here's the White House's Diversity Czar (lmao) who HEARTS venezuela and the moron Hugo Chavez again
YouTube - Mark Lloyd's questionable comments
If people are going to argue about facts, science, geology, blah blah blah....do something about it, then. "I told you so" stuff doesn't really accomplish anything.
"The scientists who got popped all had PHD's in climatology.....and they were ALL exaggerating and working together to sideline other PHD's who differed in the man-made global warming scam."
Only PHDs could've pulled off such a scam against their fellow scientists. Only PHDs were smart enough to reveal the huge load of BS.
Only a PHD is truly qualified to even talk about this topic.
My wifey drives a Prius.......Im done with my share of saving the planet. Man-made global warming is one of the biggest hoaxs/pyriamids schemes in history.....Bernie Maddoff would be proud.
Soooooo, now only PHD climatologists should be allowed to talk about Climate Change......funny, thats how the envirowhackos got themselves disgraced in the first place. Keep up the great,fake, work UN. :stoned:
Just the title of this thread sounds like the author is trying to concvince themselves that Man Made Global Warming is real and everything Al Gore said in his choreographed Hollywood Movie is real.......cause they deep down have doubts..... Followers of the Church of Global Warming is getting smaller and smaller every Sunday.
"Its real"........like this is a ghost story around a campfire homie...."Ahhhhhh, its the Carbon Monster!!:D
I love you guys.
Well, by the comments above, I guess we have two BP advocates on board. Two who can't distinguish between natural, cyclic earth warming, and man made warming. Must be devotees of creation science. :D
I'm me. If it makes you feel better or above everyone else to profile and lump people into catagories on a cannabis message board, then you are a waste of education.
Sorry you felt like it was directed to you. You must have a problem with warming too even though you know how to get seeds stealthily. IB just likes to start shit and that is all he does. Mostly I ignore him because he never discusses the relevant part of this forum. Cannabis and the end of prohibition. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nancy007
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Originally Posted by Nancy007
Nancy, Here is some free advise;
Please stop the personal attacks. It is a good way to get yourself banned.
I supose you believe your an authority to ban people?? You guys are the kids from the playground that ran to the teachers huh? Funny lil Rats.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldhaole
Gypsky has ZERO evidence from anywhere reputable to back up her bogus claims of manmade global warming and thats it. All ya'lls junk science is questionable now......all of it......even the scientists admit they havent a clue. What do you guys have???? NOTHING thats what.......so yea.....Im the crazy one who just tries to make people cry. Poor Gypsy.:(
Psycho4Bud reads this garbage ya'll spew attempting to label ANYONE with a different opinion or idea as racists or islamophobics......ya'LL aint banning a damn thing round here.
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Originally Posted by oldhaole
First off, it's not advise, it's advice, and I wouldn't take your advice, if you paid me to. If the mods want to ban me, then so be it. My life will still go on, and I'll still be a happy person.:)
... the earth has been undergoing climate change ever since it came into existence. Tho I will concede that we have some influence, our actual ability to really do anything to it other than react and try to survive when Mother Nature tries to kill us wholesale.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
The average volcano eruption puts more 'greenhouse' gases into the upper atmosphere than humans have ever created, ever since we started doing so in the 1930s. Please don't take my word for it--I could be lying. Look it up yourself. Really.
For a great eye-opener on things, I dare ya to read The Skeptical Environmentalist by Bjørn Lomborg, a dude who used'ta be their poster child...
First I'm not a she, and if I really thought it was pertinent, I dig up all the evidence and sources I need. I actually have an education beyond your minimal GED level. Why don't you do a little actual research and you will find out that by the next century the human race is going to be in deep shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
When are you going to start posting about cannabis? Or is it all you can do to post more political bullshit from Faux News, NewsMax and other nut job news sites. As far as global warming, if you had half a real brain, you'd realize the earth has done fine for millions of years and survived many natural catastrophes, but the damage being done with fossil fuels has now reached a irreversible point even without further introductions by humans. The evidence is out there if you actually do some research. Educating you is beyond hope, your comments are offensive, derogatory, and insulting to normal thinking people. Your only purpose is to start shit. And with that in mind, you have finally earned the coveted Ignore award, something I have never given to anyone before. I could say a lot worse but that will only lower me down to your mental level. :D
And as we've already seen documented by scientists, the climate has been cooling for the last decade. I here now where they think methane gas is more of problem than co2, which finally shows someone talking sense for a change.
If methane gas was the problem, humans would have been inundated years ago with all the horse and cow shit in the streets, fields, and any where they went. I believe that was debunked a few years back. Where I'm originally from, the summers are more topical or Florida like then Mid Atlantic. And they set records every year now on temperature rise. Even the winters are as long. when I was a kid, you could ice skate from Thanksgiving to at least Valentine's day or later. Now, they are lucky to get ice long enough to skate on. That indicates a warming trend. Even the mini-ice age of the late 17th and 18th centuries was a fluke due to more volcanism then today. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by killerweed420
are you retarded? :rastasmoke: no offense IB, but this is not a playground. this is a forum for adults to discuss medical cannabis legal issues. if you can't honor the code then take a hike. :twocents:Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
i'm not complaining about global warming tbh, this is already the hottest Scottish summer i can remember.
although for some reason my memory is a bit dodgy these days..
You aren't alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by evilbeaver
after a springtime that ranked as the second-hottest in 116 years for Delaware and Pennsylvania, and New Jersey's hottest since record-keeping began.
Now I wonder what major volcanic activity is causing this since? Let's here it from those who claim know the truth (sic). :D