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06-21-2010, 06:11 AM #1
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Regardless of what the naysayers are saying, climate change, or global warming, how ever you wish to term it is happening. Below is from the National Weather Service. Forty-eight years since its been this cool in the Pacific Northwest. And the East Coast and the South are cooking early in June. :thumbsup:
Record in Eugene, Oregon on latest day to reach 80 degrees...
Eugene has yet to reach 80 degrees this year... breaking the latest
first occurrence record set June 19th in 1962.gypski Reviewed by gypski on . Its Real Regardless of what the naysayers are saying, climate change, or global warming, how ever you wish to term it is happening. Below is from the National Weather Service. Forty-eight years since its been this cool in the Pacific Northwest. And the East Coast and the South are cooking early in June. :thumbsup: Record in Eugene, Oregon on latest day to reach 80 degrees... Eugene has yet to reach 80 degrees this year... breaking the latest first occurrence record set June 19th in 1962. Rating: 5
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06-21-2010, 06:23 AM #2
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Yes, it's real. Are we responsible for it? NO WAY. The volcanic eruption that just happened spewed more pollution into the air (and is still doing so just like the broken oil pipeline,) than we've done in the past century.
Milankovich Cycles, learn them, love them, live them, ignore all alarmists, because they're entirely wrong and don't have half a clue.
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06-21-2010, 06:47 AM #3
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Now that I, and other scientists will not agree on. No way that volcano has put out more pollution then man has in the past century. Let's see the evidence. :thumbsup:
Originally Posted by khyberkitsune
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06-21-2010, 07:31 AM #4
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See the evidence? The last thing to effectively block out the sky like that was the Industrial Revolution, and even that wasn't as bad as the volcano. You don't need evidence, just knowledge of history. St. Helens, Vesuvius, the one in Iceland which I cannot spell, those three combined have dropped more carbon, nitrogen, and other particulate matter into our atmosphere than we have EVER come close to doing.
Originally Posted by gypski
We've only had real industry since after the dark ages. Those volcanoes were spewing pollutants WELL before we were ever here.
As I said, no evidence needed, just a decent history knowledge and some common sense. I'd list off other volcanoes but those were the most relevant ones, oh and then we can talk about the Tunguska meteorite which was 1/3 the power of Tsar Bomba, the most powerful thermonuclear device ever detonated.
Sorry, nature has hurt itself more than man ever will, unless we figure out how to crack the planet in half or totally wipe out our oceans.
Signed,
A Director of Research.
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06-21-2010, 08:44 AM #5
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Sounds more like the junk science to me. Sorry, I don't buy it. I have a minor in geology so you can't blow that smoke and convince me.
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06-21-2010, 09:36 AM #6
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Volcanos have the power to alter the earth quickly. However they eject (by weight) @80% ash. The ash has enough weight to settle to the ground ,though it may take many years to do so.
Greenhouse gasses we produce do not fall to the ground. And we make a LOT of CO2. We are dumping it out faster than the plantlife and oceans can use/handle it.
The thought that 6 billion people currently on this earth do not have the power to alter the natural environment is foolish.
Shit, what differerce does it make though? By the time it goes to hell, all of us will be dead. :thumbsup:
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06-21-2010, 03:45 PM #7
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Nice word choosing there gyps........of course CLIMATE CHANGE is real.....MAN-MADE climate change IS NOT. Man is an insignificant speck on this giant planet of water and even ur almighty savior the Feds admit as much. They have NO clue....they cant even plug a hole in the gulf for heavens sake. Nobody....not BP.....not the govt.....not Harvard.....not M.I.T......nobody....yet somehow by miraculous studies these scientists have proved man is going to kill themselves off....in AL GORE's (global warming church elder) words by 2020........LAUGHABLE. There's a sucker born every second.
Envirowhackos must be getting desperate to bring their bogus science and flat out lies back into the news after their worldwide embarrassment in England.
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06-21-2010, 04:09 PM #8
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"Envirowhackos must be getting desperate to bring their bogus science and flat out lies back into the news after their worldwide embarrassment in England."
Exactly this.
BTW Gyps, Minor in Geology != Doctorate in Climatology.
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06-21-2010, 04:25 PM #9
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The scientists who got popped all had PHD's in climatology.....and they were ALL exaggerating and working together to sideline other PHD's who differed in the man-made global warming scam.
Originally Posted by khyberkitsune
The enviromentalist movement started nice enough, but was taken over by the socialist movement and marxists like the disgraced VAN JONES and turned into a mission to expand the govt and its control over our utilities.....Van Jones explained it in his own words on Video
YouTube - Van Jones Video Collection Montage - Obama's self admitted Communist Green Jobs Czar
And here's the White House's Diversity Czar (lmao) who HEARTS venezuela and the moron Hugo Chavez again
YouTube - Mark Lloyd's questionable comments
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06-21-2010, 04:48 PM #10
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If people are going to argue about facts, science, geology, blah blah blah....do something about it, then. "I told you so" stuff doesn't really accomplish anything.
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