tired of crappy dispencerys

i hate to say it but ill be happy to see some of the dispensary's go. there are many that i know are run by good people will be affected and possible shut down. i will be sorry to see them go. but all in all my dispensary experience has been nothing but disappointing. Ive found half of the herb being sold as medicine is crap and almost all clones i see for sale is crap. my medicinal card application was rejected because the dispensary i went to did not fill there info out right. most bud tenders i meet don't give a shit why your there or care to try to find which medicine will suit your needs best.
maybe with 70% of the dispensary's gone there will be 70% less "legal drug dealers" (cause that's all these shit holes are) out there and hopefully this will encourage the growers and care takers to quite being so stingy with there genetics and offer decent clones or reliable seeds to private growers like my self

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i hate to say it but ill be happy to see some of the dispensary's go. there are many that i know are run by good people will be affected and possible shut down. i will be sorry to see them go. but all in all my dispensary experience has been nothing but disappointing. Ive found half of the herb being sold as medicine is crap and almost all clones i see for sale is crap. my medicinal card application was rejected because the dispensary i went to did not fill there info out right. most bud tenders i meet don't give a shit why your there or care to try to find which medicine will suit your needs best.
maybe with 70% of the dispensary's gone there will be 70% less "legal drug dealers" (cause that's all these shit holes are) out there and hopefully this will encourage the growers and care takers to quite being so stingy with there genetics and offer decent clones or reliable seeds to private growers like my self

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you spelled dispensaries wrong :sadcrying

and no i wont give you my good genetics

LOL @ the replies

Look, bottom line is that there are some places with downright terrible meds who don't know what they're doing and don't have patient's interests in mind. My contention is that these places will have gone away in due time just because of the natural business/market cycles. The majority are either simply people who want to open a small business and see a booming market and find some skilled growers/vendors to provide or they're the people who should really be involved, namely the army of skilled growers who really know their stuff and care about the product and their patients. Neither of those groups are bad people, and both of those groups are getting nailed by HB 1284, so I think your disgust and quasi-celebration over 1284 and the closures that will result is misguided.

On that note, I was pleased to see a "For Sale" sign on the worst dispensary I've ever been into, the place that charged $60/8th for DJ Short's blueberry with powdery mildew on it and refused any kind of refund or compensation... the not-so-aptly named "Wellness Center of the Rockies" on W. Colfax. I gave a fist pump of glee the last time I drove by and noticed that. Score one for the good guys in that case.

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i hate to say it but ill be happy to see some of the dispensary's go. there are many that i know are run by good people will be affected and possible shut down. i will be sorry to see them go. but all in all my dispensary experience has been nothing but disappointing. Ive found half of the herb being sold as medicine is crap and almost all clones i see for sale is crap. my medicinal card application was rejected because the dispensary i went to did not fill there info out right. most bud tenders i meet don't give a shit why your there or care to try to find which medicine will suit your needs best.
maybe with 70% of the dispensary's gone there will be 70% less "legal drug dealers" (cause that's all these shit holes are) out there and hopefully this will encourage the growers and care takers to quite being so stingy with there genetics and offer decent clones or reliable seeds to private growers like my self

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You know what I'm going to agree with you and I don't care what the rest think.

You are the consumer and they better start listening to you guys instead of telling you to **** off.

But I'm going to add one more thing, there are plenty of shitty growers out there that need to be shut down as well.

I have this feeling that the general public feels like you do and is very unhappy with how MMJ is being handled. A lot of young cocky kids were making a lot of money these past few years and giving everyone a bad reputation.

However I'm very unhappy with this bill and feel like they are messing with our rights. Let these places fail because they do shit business not because the state wants to shut them down.

i was against HB 1284. i wrote my Senates e-mails, letters, i made phone calls, i did all that was in my power. the dispensary that i frequent the most is already feeling some harsh repercussions from all this and i feel really bad for the owner as we have become good friends. but how many times did i get ripped off till i met him. and now i have to try to re-apply for my card after giving my money to a dispensary that botched the paper work. or even worse if i cant get my card because of the new laws i have to go back to daily chronic pain or start popping government regulated heroin again. i disagree with the new laws but i wont miss all these dollar chasers ripping of good people. on another note i live in longmont and maybe i haven't been to every dispensary in this city but ive been in enough to know that my choices are way to limited

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i was against HB 1284. i wrote my Senates e-mails, letters, i made phone calls, i did all that was in my power. the dispensary that i frequent the most is already feeling some harsh repercussions from all this and i feel really bad for the owner as we have become good friends. but how many times did i get ripped off till i met him. and now i have to try to re-apply for my card after giving my money to a dispensary that botched the paper work. or even worse if i cant get my card because of the new laws i have to go back to daily chronic pain or start popping government regulated heroin again. i disagree with the new laws but i wont miss all these dollar chasers ripping of good people. on another note i live in longmont and maybe i haven't been to every dispensary in this city but ive been in enough to know that my choices are way to limited

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You have every right to be angry, I think dispensaries and growers forget that those "sick people" they don't think could possibly help them in November; voted in MMJ as well.

thank you donna

what growers are you guys talking about?

as for the clone scene - you are right. IT's tough.

BUT, you CAN get seeds in dispensaries here in CO and you can order seeds online. Please do, grow some out, pick the best female, and get some good cuts out there.

I do agree. many of the dispensaries suck ass. There are some good ones... but I've had some shitty luck with the one's I've tried in Denver. There are some nice ones in the hills (Ned/Ward and surrounding) See: Grateful Meds, Brown Mouse, THC and Boulder has some nice ones too.

Interesting fact - I've talked to 2 other growers besides myself that sold all of their extras this week - to patients who are fed up with the dispensaries. Good thing, too. I kicked for the electric bill and had to re-up on nutes. Non-growers are pretty clueless about how much it really does cost to set up right, and for ongoing supplies. (yea, I do think Advanced Nutes are worth the price ;)

smoke 'em if you got 'em! :rasta:

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what growers are you guys talking about?

As for the clone scene â?? you are right. Its tough.

BUT, you CAN get seeds in dispensaries here in CO and you can order seeds online. Please do, grow some out, pick the best female, and get some good cuts out there.

I do agree. Many of the dispensaries suck ass. There are some good ones... but I've had some shitty luck with the one's I've tried in Denver. There are some nice ones in the hills (Ned/Ward and surrounding) See: Grateful Meds, Brown Mouse, THC and Boulder has some nice ones too.

Interesting fact - I've talked to 2 other growers besides myself that sold all of their extras this week â?? to patients who are fed up with the dispensaries. Good thing, too. I kicked for the electric bill and had to re-up on nutes. Non-growers are pretty clueless about how much it really does cost to set up right, and for ongoing supplies. (yea, I do think Advanced Nutes are worth the price ;)

smoke 'em if you got 'em! :rasta:

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I can't use names, you probably wouldn't know them anyway; I do love GratefulMeds and Rocky Mountain Herbal.

I'm so happy to hear patients are getting there meds from you guys. Thats what we needed more competition not the state stealing from us, trying to take over.

Don't even go there with the electric bill. Mine increased 1730 kWh this month over this time last year. I also just added another 1000W light this week.

Yeeehaaaw!

Can't wait to see what my bill will be next month.

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i don't want to use any names (good or bad) on here that's what craigslist is for, but ya ive been to some that were mentioned and were happy with there service but if i have to drive all the to ned to get quality service then im not going to feel even the littlest bit of remorse for any dispensary that shuts down between here and there

i think theres a huge market for private grower merchandise (clones, seeds, advice) ive seen it all over these forums people looking for quality clones (because not all of us have the room to grow from seed) plus with a six plant limit if half those go male then what. and know that the law states that one can only shop at dispensary's that they have listed as there caregiver were does that leave us that want to remain are own caregiver. it all just seems like a very big confusing mess. and i blame every shitty dispensary for this which is why i still stand by my statement that i will not be sorry to see them go good riddance and thanks for messing up a good thing

Wow it must suck in Colorado to be a med user.
Here in Washinton we dont have the tons of collectives as they are really still not legal. However in Seattle area we have about 10 of them and all offer great service, great meds and great clones. Plus take time to help. I was hopeful for legal collectives. However from the sounds of your area and Cali. Make it legal and the scum comes to the surface.

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I have to agree that most dispensaries offer crappy clones, and you are lucky to get 4th generation clones at most dispensaries in Denver at this point.

This is only my 2nd post to this forum, and I will do my best not to "sell" patients on The Herbal Cure, but I can relate to this post and it is part of the reason I created the medical marijuana center I did.

As a patient, I got so irritated with the lack of consistency, quality, and prices regarding clones and finished product that I decided to open The Herbal Cure. Any growers involved in my business have at least 10 years of experience, including me.

Anyway, we have developed over 140 strong, healthy mothers from seed, from Amsterdam. My master grower has been to Amsterdam 8 times this year to keep things moving along...lucky guy.

We only offer our patients 1st generation clones & The Herbal Cure is the only medical marijuana center that offers a 30-day guarantee on our clones...even if you kill it, we'll replace it. We offer about 40-50 varieties of 1st generation clones every month (so our mothers can recover).

We also have several exclusive strains and if you stop in to look at our inventory, you should be blown away. We have over 50 strains of medical marijuana, with many being cup winners, & several exclusives. We're also the Home of the 4-gram 1/8th...all strains, all the time and start at $35!

I know it's really hard to find a good Dispensary...so I started one from the ground up. It's called The Herbal Cure and we're here to help patients & independent caregivers daily! Come on in...

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Don't even go there with the electric bill. Mine increased 1730 kWh this month over this time last year. I also just added another 1000W light this week.

Yeeehaaaw!

Can't wait to see what my bill will be next month.

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yea, remember, in CO, if you use xcel energy, summer this year means a 1/3 increase in cost over 500Kwh

prices will have to go up to cover that. not to mention, if you are running stand alone AC because of the heat in your flower room - that's an extra 1200 watts!

I decided it was time for fewer plants and fewer lights anyway. hopefully it all evens out with the summer and my lowered use.

damn, thanks alot copobo thats good to know

im glad ive been letting the fluorescent do most the work and allow the MH bulb to run only half the day, which ive been doing due to heat but that should help the energy, either way its still cheaper (but definitely not easier) to grow my own

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yea, remember, in CO, if you use xcel energy, summer this year means a 1/3 increase in cost over 500Kwh

prices will have to go up to cover that. not to mention, if you are running stand alone AC because of the heat in your flower room - that's an extra 1200 watts!

I decided it was time for fewer plants and fewer lights anyway. hopefully it all evens out with the summer and my lowered use.

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Yep, with Xcel.

Fortunate not to have to use AC "yet" due to my area. Actually, I saw the heat come on today. I cursed it!

:D

Well for not trying to sell, you sure did a good job of it. ;)

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Well for not trying to sell, you sure did a good job of it. ;)

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Hey Heathen4Life if you ever need any help, let me know? [email protected] I met a grower in denver, hes pretty reliable.
Now I better stop posting my e-mail everywhere before I get into big trouble with the powers that be.

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You know what I'm going to agree with you and I don't care what the rest think.

You are the consumer and they better start listening to you guys instead of telling you to **** off.

But I'm going to add one more thing, there are plenty of shitty growers out there that need to be shut down as well.

I have this feeling that the general public feels like you do and is very unhappy with how MMJ is being handled. A lot of young cocky kids were making a lot of money these past few years and giving everyone a bad reputation.

However I'm very unhappy with this bill and feel like they are messing with our rights. Let these places fail because they do shit business not because the state wants to shut them down.

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yup i agree too but i don't agree with this statement"out there and hopefully this will encourage the growers and care takers to quite being so stingy with there genetics and offer decent clones or reliable seeds to private growers like my self " i say sure if ya pay for it like i did.hell i have 2k$ worth of just seed stock.i paid for them and now should give them to you for free???naw:wtf:

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Yep, with Xcel.

Fortunate not to have to use AC "yet" due to my area. Actually, I saw the heat come on today. I cursed it!

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....Anyway, we have developed over 140 strong, healthy mothers from seed, from Amsterdam. My master grower has been to Amsterdam 8 times this year to keep things moving along...lucky guy. ..

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I'll come check you out. Where are you?

If you rock, I'll tell people here. If you don't... same goes :)

Hey whats the deal with this Golden Goat strain, some guy wouldnt sell it to me because he said it was rare. Is it really that good?

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I'll come check you out. Where are you?

If you rock, I'll tell people here. If you don't... same goes :)

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That's what I like about you!

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Hey whats the deal with this Golden Goat strain, some guy wouldnt sell it to me because he said it was rare. Is it really that good?

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What's he going to do with it then? Sit there and admire it until it is useless. He must just want bragging rights for now.

Seems odd. Was it a dispensary or an acquaintance of yours?

Legal Buds in Pueblo

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yup i agree too but i don't agree with this statement"out there and hopefully this will encourage the growers and care takers to quite being so stingy with there genetics and offer decent clones or reliable seeds to private growers like my self " i say sure if ya pay for it like i did.hell i have 2k$ worth of just seed stock.i paid for them and now should give them to you for free???naw:wtf:

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who says i want anything for free. it just seems anytime i come across a strain that really works for me i ask how i can get my hands on a clone or some seeds and i here the same thing..."naw these are my genetics i cant let them get out there" i understand growers work hard at there plants but its not like im here to take away your competition i would just like one or two of my allowed 3 plant harvest worth so i can have something special to smoke...maybe im just not networking enough but i think in times like these when caregivers are going to have to drop many patients lets (and im not the first to say it in these forums) set them up sell them some good seeds (many are not comfortable with ordering on-line) or clones and help over grow the government

and again i thank all that do offer help my first grow couldn't have been successful without the help of some really good peaple

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Legal Buds in Pueblo

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Heh, are they associated with that um, sexy gal at the top of the page?

And yeah, the Goat is a CO original. Go get THE original at Herbal Element in the Denver Highlands... the grower there invented the strain. Best example anywhere, I've smelled a bunch of them and that's the best easily.

if you want bragging rights, name the strain after yourself and share it :rastasmoke:

meaning give it away or sell it, but share!! - it's a genetic backup!

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Heh, are they associated with that um, sexy gal at the top of the page?

And yeah, the Goat is a CO original. Go get THE original at Herbal Element in the Denver Highlands... the grower there invented the strain. Best example anywhere, I've smelled a bunch of them and that's the best easily.

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Thanks, i'll be checking out you guys too.:)

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who says i want anything for free. it just seems anytime i come across a strain that really works for me i ask how i can get my hands on a clone or some seeds and i here the same thing..."naw these are my genetics i cant let them get out there" i understand growers work hard at there plants but its not like im here to take away your competition i would just like one or two of my allowed 3 plant harvest worth so i can have something special to smoke...maybe im just not networking enough but i think in times like these when caregivers are going to have to drop many patients lets (and im not the first to say it in these forums) set them up sell them some good seeds (many are not comfortable with ordering on-line) or clones and help over grow the government

and again i thank all that do offer help my first grow couldn't have been successful without the help of some really good peaple

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wow i have never heard any growers be dicks like that lmao.i mean if i have extra seeds"which i do lol" most of the time i'd let em go for what i have in them.i thought you ment everyone should give their shit away.cause alot of mooches have passed through these boards pointing fingers as if growers are greedy.then they drive to a shop and buy meds lmao.anyways we have bigger fish to fry atm.....

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hell i have 2k$ worth of just seed stock.

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Man, that's one hell of an inventory!

I need to expand my inventory.

I'm too chicken to buy seeds off the internet. The only seeds I can find in the dispensaries seem to be hybrid. Nothing wrong with that but I would like something different.

Buying clones seems too risky just because of all the issues other people are having with them.

I've got some really good Golden Goat at CAM on Broadway a few different times. They always have the kill in there...check them out!

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Man, that's one hell of an inventory!

I need to expand my inventory.

I'm too chicken to buy seeds off the internet. The only seeds I can find in the dispensaries seem to be hybrid. Nothing wrong with that but I would like something different.

Buying clones seems too risky just because of all the issues other people are having with them.

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I get mine from Attitude seed bank, they have guaranteed shipping. I also like GreenHouse Seed-bank. I have never had an issues when I get seeds by mail, just make sure theres a guarantee because at $350 a seed I can't afford to have the feds grow it for me.

Yep, I've not had any issues ordering seeds online. SeedBay is my spot for special one-of-a-kind type of genetics, but Attitude is the spot otherwise because of their fast shipping, accepting credit cards, and their customer service. Gotta pop my Pure Deep Chunk seeds soon, I want to get a landrace beast happening for some cross-breeding.

In other news, my baby Deep Chunk x Bubba Kush from Bryan's old CCF stock is looking happy. Praying for a female.

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The Herbal Cure is the only medical marijuana center that offers a 30-day guarantee on our clones...even if you kill it, we'll replace it.

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The Health Center on Colorado offers the same 30-day guarantee on clones. ;)

Yeah I've seen several shops advertising similar deals for clones.

It would have happened naturally, I don't care how many licensed pot smokers there are in the DU area, Evans and Broadway can't sustain the half dozen dispensaries there are. It would have been much more preferable for the consumer for a more natural drop off as well - requiring such a significant fee upfront immediately kills any small up and comer who very well may have grown into a quality business, and it instead rewards folks who are able to secure the money needed: organized crime, large mega-dispensaries from out of area (working around the residency rule isn't difficult), and folks otherwise completely unrelated to the industry just hoping to cash in on the next big thing. It's really disappointing that people couldn't have a modicum of patience and self-direction. It's up to you to find and support the dispensary you love, no one else can do that for you.

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Man, that's one hell of an inventory!

I need to expand my inventory.

I'm too chicken to buy seeds off the internet. The only seeds I can find in the dispensaries seem to be hybrid. Nothing wrong with that but I would like something different.

Buying clones seems too risky just because of all the issues other people are having with them.

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yup every clone i have looked at was garbage be it root rot,pests,nute def so on.also i don't really trust buying seeds from a shop unless it's still in the breeders packs that they were sent in.all my stock has come from the breeders themselfs.well i bought 4 pks of sub's beans from greatful only because they were a good buy at the time.

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I get mine from Attitude seed bank, they have guaranteed shipping. I also like GreenHouse Seed-bank. I have never had an issues when I get seeds by mail, just make sure theres a guarantee because at $350 a seed I can't afford to have the feds grow it for me.

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lmao what strain did you buy @ 350 a seed?wow