1st grow advice is appreciated...

Ok so this is sort of my first grow but i have attempted to do this before just never worked out very well.

So to start this off here are the materials that i am using.

4-26w bulbs of 1600 lumens of light output, so a total of 6400 lumens
18 gallon bin
emergency blanket all on the inside of the bin
bathroom fixture with 4 sockets
8 biodegradable pots
Miracle Grow organic choice
thermometer with a humidity meter
8 bagseed babies that came from a so-called batch of haze

Well i started to germinate 11 on DEC 20th came out with 8 cracked open ready to get dropped in the pot.

On DEC 23th 6am i planted them all in seperate pots and placed them in my bin already prepared for them.

On DEC 25th i saw that one of my babies have already sprouted and is already about 3cm tall.

Temp: 71-82 Degrees-F, 21.67-27.78-C
Humudity: 33% sometimes it says Low usually when i havent watered them

When i close my closet door it is around 82 when it is open it is around 75,76 but when i spark a blunt and open my bedroom window to blaze it drops to 72

Now i have noticed there might be a problem with my grow setup.

My light fixxture is about 4-6 inches away from my pots and is not straight accross because of it being to big to fit inside of the bin.

Also on the second day i saw a gnat flying around i tried to kill it but the m+therf+cker was way to fast so after a few more failed attemps i just decided to leave it alone and open my closet door to hopefully see it fly out and i can close the door and kill it knowing its out of my grow area.

Any advice will be gladly appreciated and i will update my progress as it grows...

Disclaimer: This is a fake story i am simply sharing with everyone and it is a joke/project that someone else told me about.

be patient and the light is ok just move the plants around once in a while
:D
-J

Sounds good thanks for the reply, after the first one sprouted i moved it and placed another one in its place to see what happens.

Do you think having the bin on the carpet floor leaves the plants more vulnerable to bugs? thats my only worry i have a dog in the house and ever since ive had this grow going i havent let him in my room.

P.S i tried leaving some positive rep for you by clicking on you name but didnt know where to go i will as soon as i find out though.

Like i said before all help is appreciated

Get some of those no pest strips or put a layer of sand over your soil(after they sprout) to control the gnats.

Everything else sounds decent enough, you will need more light in a few weeks if you want to keep them all but I'm sure you know that ;).

Good luck & happy growing!

Thanks alot redtails, I believe my gnat problem has gotten worse i passed out around 3am and i had just killed the only gnat i saw but as soon as i woke up at 10am i saw 2 of them flying around.

Pest strip? can i find that at lowes/Home Depot how do i know which one is safe for the plants, and if i use the sand trick simply wait for the little ones to be above ground and pore a layer of sand around them?

But on the good side another seeding has come out the ground as fast as the first one and im staring to see some green come out of 2 more.

Because of my lack of space/lighting i wasnt planning on keeping all 8 in there too long. If all decide to grow I was hoping I can keep 4 in that bin and transfer 4 to a friend that can take care of them.

Yeah the pest strip is the little sticky trap. And the sand blocks the eggs from getting oxygen so they suffocate. Not sure how long to leave the sand there because the roots need O2 also, but that's what is generally recommended so I guess it's all good. Congrats on more sprouting! I'd say you want to have about 4 of those lights for each plant when you flower or you won't get too much, so keep that in mind. Check around in the Indoor & Closet/Cabinet sections, there's lots of people doing basically the same thing as you so you can see what to expect. Knowledge is power, or so it says in Mortal Kombat!

Congrats on the sproutings skunk, hopefully all the work pays off for you!!

Redtails: you said during flower he may need four bulbs per plant? is that for optimum lighting or do you think they will need that much light to make it through flowering? I was under the impression that 5000 lumens per sq ft was enough lighting but is that per plant?

Optimum, he can actually flower with probably only 2 total lights but there will be maybe a couple grams there in the end. And yes the 5000 lumens is per sq ft, not plant. The reason I said 4 per plant is so that one can be on each of four sides near the top, providing light all around. If you use LST, SOG, or ScrOG, you can get away with the current configuration seeing as you will have an even canopy and only need overhead lighting. I have 1 plant right now that's 2" under a 200w cfl (12,000 lumens) & has been LST'd to keep it in a 10"x10" area and that's not even proving to be completely optimum IMHO, although it's still doing great. The more light, the better generally. You can get a few of the y-splitters and run 2 bulbs from each socket as long as you don't exceed the wattage rating of the fixture.

Ok sounds good I am going to start by getting the pest strips and putting a layer of sand around the ones that have already reached the surface.

But now that I know I have gnats in the soil would it still be transport the biodegradeble pots into larger pots, that's ofcourse if I don't see anymore gnats and I already removed it.
For the lighting I was planning on switching over to different bulbs that gives out more red. If I buy 2 twin fixtures do you think it would be to much heat for the plants, right now the temps are at 82. I was also going to place another bin on top of it so I get more of a closed in grow ofcourse wrapping that bin with emergency blanket all around.

Also the bulbs I was going to buy for flowering give out 2700k while these for the growth are 6500k, can I just buy 4 (2700) for the 2 twin fixtures and use it all the way till harvest?

Thanks again for all your help

i would advise taking some time and a small sheet of plywood and attaching some of the round porcelain light fixtures (rated for 200w btw) from HD. they cost a couple bucks each and take a lil bit of time to wire up.. be careful and dont kill yourself!! put a splitter in each of 5 of those and you will have enough light to fill the space you have and if you dont just add another couple fixtures. sound like fun??
when i get the time i will make a DIY guide for this..
-J

Ok sounds good mainegrown but I had thought about this before as I've seen how more lighting will only benefit my babies.
But my only problem is that my fixture says the the max is 60w for each socket, while I am already using 100w. The splitter says 250w and it's ok for the bulbs but I'm still not sure about the fixture.

Today I purchased a fixture that has 3 sockets not 4 reason for that was because of the way I had the 4 socket fixture. Now I can have two fixtures side by side 6 bulbs in total.
I also purchased pest strips, aswell as sand for the Gnat problem. I heard black strap molasses kills bacteria that the gnats eat off of. But didn't find it.

The fixture is 60w for each socket usually, so you could fit 2 of those 26w bulbs in each just fine. Sounds like you're off to a good start, do you have any fans going in there? I'd highly recommend at least one little one blowing across the plants

WOW, if you only knew how dumb I feel right now.
I purchased 2 new fixtures instead if the 4 socket fixture that sat crooked, I decided to go with 2, 3 socket fixtures that I will drill onto a ply wood and put them side-by-side. For a total of 6 sockets. Now that I know I can put splitters I am thinking if I should put them on now for a total of 12 bulbs, or just wait till flowering to do that.

Now about the gnat problem I bought sand and pest strips today and will put everything on tonight, but I've heard about putting molasses to kill bacteria and later kill the gnats.
Will that work? How much do I put and is it safer than putting sand and risking the fact the roots would get less oxygen?

I don't have a fan in there right now because I've been planning on making a setup to decrease oder when that begins to become a problem. I am planning on buying a computer style fan and placing it above the lights as an exhaust fan and connect it to a laundry style exhaust filled with this fish tank material that will so-called kill oder.

Sorry for typing so much and again thank you so much for all your help guys, I really appreciate it.

first off i would get away from the bathroom fixtures because they DO only have a rating of 60w.. but the ones for construction sites that just bold/screw onto the board are rated for ..just search "Leviton Surface Mount Porcelain Light Socket Medium Base Lamp Holder 9880" and it will give you an idea of what would do better. and that socket is like $3 and rated for 660w... how many CFL's is that, anyone? just find non-fixture light sockets..like the ones an electrician would install in your home for you..
they are simple to install and almost fool proof..
and i dont think that you will have any luck with killing bacteria with molasses.. i think that it is used to PROMOTE bacteria growth in soil.. if you dont have an aversion to pesticides then i would recommend one of those designed for your pest..
have a nice nite and no problem helping..we all need each other cause we just be people
-J

Well Now that I have different fixtures I believe my girls have gotten a little better because of the added light. Although only 2 out of 8 are out of the ground and seem to be doing well i don't know where I went wrong.

2 of the seedlings haven't even reached the surface while the other 4 look weak and I don't think they will make it. Is there a certain way you are suppose to plant the seed? Reason I ask is because I think these seedlings are not sprouting because they can't find the surface and died. While the 2 that did sprout succesfully are standing strong and have no signs off problems.

I am almost done with the bin that is suppose to go on top and hide the setup, I will post pics of my progress as soon as I get the chance.

There are less gnats because of the pest strips (thanks redtails for the idea) and I am planning on taking out the babies that didn't succeed and replanting some new seedlings as I do that I will place sand around the 2 that are growing and hope that the new seedling will catch up.

idk if you have more soil but i would not recommend using the same soil because of contaminates in the soil.. like mold that develops when the moisture in the soil is the perfect environment.. if you must use the same soil bake it in the oven @ 350 for 30+ minutes to kill any unwanteds in there
and how deep did you plant the seeds? plant around 1/3 " deep AFTER they have shown roots when you put in a zip lock bag with a couple paper towels folded around them and dampened... poke a hole in the soil with a pencil and PLACE the seed in there. then put some soil over the seed and let her go. spray the soil surface once a day with a few sprays from a cleaned out windex bottle.
thats basically what i do and it seems to work well and is kind simple
sorry if not to clear im kinda drunk/tired

Hehe, just a warning on baking soil, it stinks your whole place up!

I plant same way, only I usually take the baggie I germinated in and place it over the pot after it's planted as a humidity dome so I don't have to water it at all. Then you just take it off when the plant pops out & you're good.

nice innovation i will have to look at something like that
-J

That's what ghetto growing is all about! You get baked & think about how to be cheap yet effective & the creativity flows!

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Originally Posted by superskunk1

Ok so this is sort of my first grow but i have attempted to do this before just never worked out very well.

So to start this off here are the materials that i am using.

4-26w bulbs of 1600 lumens of light output, so a total of 6400 lumens
18 gallon bin
emergency blanket all on the inside of the bin
bathroom fixture with 4 sockets
8 biodegradable pots
Miracle Grow organic choice
thermometer with a humidity meter
8 bagseed babies that came from a so-called batch of haze

Well i started to germinate 11 on DEC 20th came out with 8 cracked open ready to get dropped in the pot.

On DEC 23th 6am i planted them all in seperate pots and placed them in my bin already prepared for them.

On DEC 25th i saw that one of my babies have already sprouted and is already about 3cm tall.

Temp: 71-82 Degrees-F, 21.67-27.78-C
Humudity: 33% sometimes it says Low usually when i havent watered them

When i close my closet door it is around 82 when it is open it is around 75,76 but when i spark a blunt and open my bedroom window to blaze it drops to 72

Now i have noticed there might be a problem with my grow setup.

My light fixxture is about 4-6 inches away from my pots and is not straight accross because of it being to big to fit inside of the bin.

Also on the second day i saw a gnat flying around i tried to kill it but the m+therf+cker was way to fast so after a few more failed attemps i just decided to leave it alone and open my closet door to hopefully see it fly out and i can close the door and kill it knowing its out of my grow area.

Any advice will be gladly appreciated and i will update my progress as it grows...

Disclaimer: This is a fake story i am simply sharing with everyone and it is a joke/project that someone else told me about.

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for first grow i reccomend you google jorge cervantes his website full of useful shit and its all free hes the man when it comes to grow advice

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Originally Posted by redtails

That's what ghetto growing is all about! You get baked & think about how to be cheap yet effective & the creativity flows!

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only too true that .. gotta find a cheap way to do what others do for mad $$
-J

Thanks alot guys and I haven't put up any updates because since this was sort of a work in progress I had a little problem with temp. If I don't open my closet door everynight the temps hit up to 90 degrees, which burnt the top of the plants and made the soil very dry. I watered the plants and raised the light hopefully when I get back I can finish the tip piece and install a exhaust fan.

I am planting new babies as soon as they germinate and keep the haze plants in the middle. Since all the seeds I have now are cheap strands i'm sure they will grow under any condition.

Tonight everything will be done hopefully and I will have pics of everything...

follow my recipe,if you wanna grow !a million watts of light is unnecessary! how big is your grow area?

My setup is in a 18 gallon bin (18x16) and I believe it's working out pretty good except for the temp, I forgot to ask if hummidity is important, my thermometer tells me that the hummidity is low and it usually says that when it drops bellow 30% do I have to keep it at 40-50%???

I just germinated 3 seeds a week and a half ago:D. Here's how I did it.

I put the seeds in a bowl with enough water (highly filtered) to cover 3/4th of the seed. I put a plate on the bowl and put the bowl in the closet(dark).

Two days later I opened the bowl and found two seeds had a 1/16" root tip.

I added a little filtered water to the bowl and scooped up the seeds with a spoon.

I dropped them on the surface of the soil and pushed the soil around just to aim the root down(still on the surface). I did the same three days later when the third seed popped.

Then I misted the seeds every few hours (as I happened to walk by).

I used a single 23w CFL, and a single 1' 15w Florescent(stock bulb) from k-mart($7) until the third day.

The root shot into the ground. By the next morning the root was a 1/2' long. I continued to mist it every few hours. By the third day I had leaves, and the root was long buried.

It didn't cost me a dime. THEN I added 160w more florescent THEN added three more CFLs,....

Point is I needed very little light to start them.:thumbsup: I needed no extra equipment or baggies. I didn't bury them either (I wanted to watch!:stoned:).

From what I've seen in nature. There is a good chance that a seed sitting on a damp speck of soil will grow. So, that is what I simulated.:thumbsup:

Ok well because of the outside weather my temps in my room rose so the temp inside my bin is at 87 degrees at one point it hit 93 which burnt the plants. I raised the fixture and took out 4 bulbs. Now there's to bulbs and the temp is at 83, I'm thinking about taking out all the emergency blanket and leaving it plain or flat white paint.