FIRST GROW, ANY ADVICE APPRECIATED!!(PICS)

I just wanted to start off my thread by thanking everyone who post info on here that has benefitted me. I think this site is awesome as well as the people in it.

Now on to the good stuff, I planted this seed that last week of august and have been trying to keep up with it with the information that I get from you guys. I just want to know what you guys think of the look of the plant and and advice that maybe some of you will have. Thanks again!


*the vertical light was just a test and has now been taken down.
*The above taken picture displays how I just FEM'd the plant.
*Can I trim some of the leaves off of the plant. For some reason some of the leaves are curling and leaning downward.

Leave the leaves lol. Even though you might not like the way they look, they're still benefiting the plant by them just being there and still photosynthesizing.

Now I'm far from an expert in this area but your leaves might be curling down due to overwatering or from not getting enough light. I've noticed that when they're in optimum lighting(outside in full sun or tops of plants nearest the light) the lights will straighten out fully and maybe even fold upwards a bit widthwise. Hope someone else can chime in also, it always helps to have as many opinions as possible.

For sure more light it looks rather spindly. check your ph and make sure not to over water. Wait till the plnater is light then water.

what sort of light are you using above the plant there?... if its not to hot you should put it closer...

What it looks like to me is:

* Leaves are curled cause of over watering. The trick when it comes to watering is every 3-4 days or when you put your finger a knuckle deep and if it's dry to the touch water it. When do you water your plant?

* Lighting. Now as far as your plants looking spiney some if it's due to the FIM but most of it's the lighting. Now here's the question I ask. What type of lighting are you using and what's the Watts, Lumens, and type of Floresent is that. Now to help out I would go get a few 26 Watt cfls from walmart for $5.65 to help, but when u look for them make sure they say soft light, you warm the warm light for flower.

Now once we know we can help point you in a better direction.

Have fun be safe!

Also what I for got. What are your temps inside the closet and do you have any type of fan in there to help move air, strenghten the plant, and keep the temps cooler.

Thanks for the replies guys I am at work right now and its difficult to answeer you guys with my cell phone so ill give you guys some more info later on tonight

you should most def get some cfl lights in there. here is a link to help you make one i did the same thing and it cost me like 50 bucks and works great gives me 20.000 lumens

ooops im stoned and for got to place the link my bad lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs_QR...layer_embedded

Alright guys now that Thanksgiving has passed i have enough time to update you guys.

The specs of the light are in the photo that I posted. I figured it would give you guys the most info possible. I also have the light that is vertical in the first post beside what was already above the plant.

Also in the photos is some browning that has developed in areas of the plant and i have no idea what they could be. I looked throughout the forum and read something about a soil fungus that could cause browning but I'm not sure how to determine this. The browning is spreading though?

there is a fan in the closet and since first post has been turned onto medium which caused the plant to support itself now. Before i had it supported by just a small pencil due to it leaning over. Now its fine on her own.

*Also the plants currents get watered when dirt is dry to the touch. I did over water the plants one time which caused the leaves to curly tremendously but since they seem to be fine. The nutrients i give is shultz 10-15-10.

As far as PH goes I am completely lost. I've purchased a test that involves dropping a tablet into a vile with the soil in it which was not to accurate i don't believe. If it is then that means my PH level of the soil was close to 5.0. I also purchased a ph gauge which i can never get to work i've tried useing it 100 times and everytime has been unsuccessful. Its the meter with the light and moisture gauge in one


Let me know what you guys think!!:stoned:

So the browning is coming from nutrient burn. now the shultz fertilizer I would cut what ever it says down to half the amount to the 1 gallon jug of water. On your next water flush it with 4 gallons of water then let it dry out extreamly well. Try to look for a nutrient called Neptunes. Now the fertilzer you are using for the veg has to much P in it. try to look for something like 10-5-10. you want a higher second number when u flower just like what ur using now. But just keep a eye on those brow spots. If u think u have fungi on your soil it should look white. But any other questions just let us know. Have fun be safe

all i can recommend is get more light, better lights or move them closer to the plant. looking alittle strechy there.

also you might be over watering if your leaves are curling like that so just slow down on the watering a bit.

instead of the PH test kit you got, you should invest in a meter that sticks into the soil, much easier to use

The fan will help, but the lights need to be closer and some reflective walls around the plant will help bounce back some of the light your loosing. The discolor is nutes as already stated by camoxnhx. Dont know if you started the seed in that pot, it might need re potted. Good luck:rasta:

Here's how close we're saying to put the lights as long as temps are ok(fan):

http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/a...j/101_0624.jpg
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/a...j/101_0634.jpg
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/a...j/101_0647.jpg

And these tight nodes are the result:

http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/a...j/101_0626.jpg
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/a...j/101_0641.jpg

Note: The yellow/brown spots are the result of not knowing to back the lights away when you foliar feed. Apparently there's a magnifying effect from the water droplets...lol, you live and learn!

so I looked up the term stretching and really haven't found any thourough informstion on it? I understand it happens when the lights are far away from the plant. But why is stretching not good or how does it affect the plant

The light and nutrients only carry so far so if all the leaves and branches are close together it's much more efficient for the plant's growth. Also the plants will stretch when flowering, sometimes over twice the size, so unless you're set to flower a monster with lights all around you will be decreasing the yield with all that empty space.

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Originally Posted by redtails

The light and nutrients only carry so far so if all the leaves and branches are close together it's much more efficient for the plant's growth. Also the plants will stretch when flowering, sometimes over twice the size, so unless you're set to flower a monster with lights all around you will be decreasing the yield with all that empty space.

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wow, thanks redtails I had no idea it grows like that during flowering. When can i start flowering the plant? I put the plant closer to the light and this is the result...

SO when is it guys, when is the time to swap the lighting and time to 12/12?

You can do it now if you want. Most people I think make the change when their plant is about half the size they want it to be, some will wait until the leaves are coming in spaced apart instead of directly across from each other(sign of maturity), and some others wait until the plants show preflowers. Once you finish a plant or two you should be able to guage it better next time.

Or you can do like I'm trying this grow- use an autoflowering strain so the plant flowers when it's genetically told to do so even with 24/7 lighting! Only drawback to these are their TINY size, most get maybe a foot tall at the end and yield 1/2-1oz so you need quite a few to get anything big.

looks like its not getting enough nutrients and too much water. if it wasnt enough water it would change color ard curl up but yours looks a bit limpy. check your Ph levels.

I just swapped the plant into natures choice soil, I figured it would be easier to pay attention to know whats going on in the soil if i know that no other nutrients are in it. I have now cut the amount of nutrients the plant is getting. The 10-15-10 called for 7 drops per quart and i am only putting 3. The brown has started to go away on parts that had it lightly and and the plants at the top are still severly damaged.

I also went ahead today and purchased lights to swap lighting over to 12/12. 4 20 watt light fixtures with each putting out 1275 lumens and 3000k temps. Is this okay and enough lighting guys? Ill post some more pics of her soon

Is 3000k okay good enough to flower?

I'd check the humidity in there

humidity varies from 35% to the highest ive seen it at 45%

A quick search resulted in this:

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-pro...-12-hours.html

And a few others, but it seems to be a pH or overfeeding problem

As for the humidity it sounds prefect to me...

Thanks redtails, good thread with a lot of the problems that I am having.