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Just heard on the radio today that the town of Red Bluff, has passed an ordinance that prohibits the selling and growing of marijuana for medical use in direct violation of prop 215. If you live in Red Bluff, contact NORML, and see what you can do to get this unjust ordinance repealed.
Unjust? The town probably got sick of the increase in home invasions/robberies and then have the growers call the police for help. Hahaha how hilarious.
I remember reading about this couple that got robbed inside their home in the town I live in, they called the cops after the people left their house.
The cops showed up and realized there was still about in excess of 1000 plants, 3 seperate flowering rooms ect. A decent sized indoor setup in other words and they expected the cops to help them!?!? Instead they got arrested. That's kind of an extreme example.
I think these people that are for the "movement" and live in mendocino/humboldt/trinity/shasta counties need to realize what marijuana is doing around here. Not saying that all the growers are bad but I see so many that are in it purely for greed and money, things only go downhill once those 2 things get involved.
You don't think once it gets legalized that it wont be capitolized on by a handful of people shortly after? I don't know about you, but I fucking hate corporate bulshit and marijuana isn't gonna be anything different.
the reason they put the bann on selling or growing medical marijuana is they r tryng to keep my best friends collective from staying opened! he recently opened his doors to patients in red bluff and some folkes got their fethers ruffled bout it. he is following all the rules and has cal norml working with him, he has gotten round the ban because he opened 4 buissiness 2 days b4 the ban was in effect.
PLEASE SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL COLLECTIVES SPEACIALY IF U LIVE IN RED BLUFF :pimp: PEACE!!
agreed :thumbsup: ... this whole 'dispensary' bullshit is only a cover for greed, and nothing else - take a look at the prices charged, etc, and the people running them .... 'dispensaries' will spell doom for medical marijuana, just watch and see ... :smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thizz All Day
Why do you have to be greedy to grow Marijuana? Generalizations don't exist, man, any generalization is a lie. If legalized a plant would become a whore? I guess it would be cheaper, better quality, more creative consumption methods, no social stigma...
I have to disagree with you. I think that the dispensaries are doomed to fail! It will be a boom/bust situation. If you are allowed to grow, or can easily assign your growing rights to a caretaker/supplier, why would you bother going to an expensive dispensary?Quote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
I think a more logical scenario is, there will be a huge boom which is starting now. Then the general public figures out how easy it is to grow cannabis. :thumbsup: And a huge crash in the number of dispensaries follows with the survival of a handful of the better places. There will always be a few dispensaries for new or severely disabled patients, or when your crop gets wiped out, or maybe you're just a pot snob wanting a new flavor. But folks growing their own will end the "green gold rush". Supply and demand. Cannabis is way easier to produce than alcohol or vicodin!
Dispensaries are just a passing fad with an eventual small niche market.
Granny :hippy:
I can agree with that, Storm Crow ... my view is, 'dispensaries' don't fit with the general populations' idea of legitimate commerce ... obviously, I'm all for users growing their own, and co-ops should be TEACHING people how to grow, not growing and supplying high-markup dispensaries ... I've said it a hundred times, and I'll repeat myself here: dispensaries were the worst idea in the world ! ... even the attorney that authored Prop. 215, came on 60 Minutes, and claimed it was BAD LAW, from beginning to end (and, he wrote it !) :wtf: ... dispensaries are only hurting the whole medical marijuana scenario ... read your local newspapers, (or the title of this thread), there are quite a few cities and counties, banning dispensaries, etc., this very day ! ... the 'marijuana laws pendulum', is unfortunately, swinging back the wrong way, and the public's opinion has lots to do with it ... people get pissed when they see some 'dispensary' busted, with $100,000 in cash, and a stash of guns ... my neighborhood WalMart does a lot more business than that, every day, but, they don't seem to need armed thugs guarding the door ... we came a long way, just to get Med MJ laws on the books, let's not piss it away, supporting greedhead drugdealers in storefronts ... regardless, happy gardening ! :smokin:
I really don't think growing your own will catch on enough to eliminate the dispensaries. It takes a lot of time, a lot of equipment, a dedicated space, and a lot of trial and error. Most people aren't gonna get serious with it and buy enough of the right equipment to make it worthwhile. I know that if I could go and buy cannabis from a store at a fair price, I would most likely stop growing my own.
However, I see both points being made. Cannabis is our number one cash crop and has been for 3 years running, so there's clearly money to be made. IMO, what it would take is for huge producers to start selling their crop for less money and undercutting everyone, to make everyone else have to come down in order to compete. I don't ever see this happening, so unfortunately we are stuck until quite a few people step up and decides to sell their product for cheap.
It is also bad for these towns where it is legal, as people are flocking to CA to cash in on the gold rush. I watched the documentary "The Union" and they talked about how there were "Grow Watches" being set up in communities to watch for growers because of the influx of people whose only goal is to grow weed and sell it, and have no interest in the community or anything. I feel like that kind of attitude that is going to be detrimental to the movement, by putting a greedy and negative face on such an amazing medicine and harmless recreational intoxicant and changing peoples' views on cannabis for the worse.
It also blows my mind to see these "compassionate" dispensaries in CA selling 1/8ths for $70 when it costs pennies to produce. I understand the need for profits, but nutes, water, and power included, I can produce a half pound for about $50 or so. You can sell a single ounce at $50 1/8th and octuple your operating costs. Sell a QP and you've likely covered your entire intial investment of lights, fans, building materials, etc. From there on out its more or less 100% profit. So how these people justify $70 for 1/8th - besides the hype behind having the fancy names and such - is beyond me, but I guess thats capitalism for you.
This is all why I will stick to growing my own and keep it for my wife and myself so I don't have to worry about any of the hassle involving money. Unless it comes to the point where I can go to the corner store and get some Grand Daddy Purple for $30 a 1/8th, then I just might hang up my HID and buy into the madness. :jointsmile:
agreed, good post :thumbsup:
Just grow your own and help others do so to end the greed involved in this movement.
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Originally Posted by eastbaygordo
amen......
Great post !!!
i am sad to hear that ur meds are SO expensive... the market in maine is like 30 an eighth for crazy shit that will knock you on your ass.... but in maine we have been growing pot for a LONG time. i know at least 10 people that are 4-5th generation weed farmers (illegal) but long time none the less....
and we dont put up with the 50-70$$ an eighth. people tried that one a few years back when MMJ was becoming mainstream and no one bought in.. we all buy local outdoor if we dont grow our own...
-J
you'd HAVE to be stoned, to live in Red Bluff, blazingly hot, podunk armpit of California, anyway :D
i dont see how they can pass an ordnance like that. that would be like a dr prescribing you antibiotics,vicodin or ibuprofen, and the city saying that you cant have it if you want to live in their city. thats bullshit.
i dont live in RB, but i live in shasta county. i cant see why there isnt a dz lawsuits filed already.
thats just like someone mentioning in another post that they noticed rental property ads are saying "no 215" in the ad. same thing, if a dr prescribes you a LEGAL perscription, they cant legally not rent to you on that basis.
get a gun in an environment of violence no matter how safe you make think you are in this country you are not unless you posses the conviction to live for something or die for nothing i was taught by my father to sleep with one eye open and a shotgun by your side when i moved away from home when i was younger 2 guys broke into my house both were armed i heard them make they're way through the house i locked me an my girl in the bedroom and called the cops but when they kicked that bedroom door open 1000 prayers could'nt bring them back case closed oh and i was only 20 when this happened
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Originally Posted by MasterKushy
I sure miss the 'old' I street Coop in Arcata. Some of the headiest train wreck ever for ungodly cheap. The guy running it was hella cool too, and that awesome 'maro was always parked out front. :D
You're in Maine. We're talking LA and San Francisco out here. It's a whole different world, brother! :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by mainegrown
as far as im concerned, if they are not "serious" about it, they dont need to be hiding under the guise of needing it. if they needed it that bad, investing a few bucks and getting the right stuff to grow wouldnt be an issue, even if it took them saving 6 months to do so. it isnt difficult to grow your own and grow GOOD stuff, especially if you can get some good clones off of known decent strains. growing from seed can be more difficult, but if you weigh things, clones are cheaper anymore, they grow faster,bigger, and harvest is much sooner, plus, you can go down and get some peat pellets, some rootone and a small greenhouse pack and start your OWN clones off of the clones you already have once they mature VERY easily. i know one guy whos been propagating off of the same clone now for like 6 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKushy
one of these days, californias gonna finally crack down on the dr's and you arent going to be able to just bring a pill bottle in and get a recommendation. youll need to document a real need by evidence (I.E. dr records from other drs showing you actually have a need). to many people who smoke casually are saying "hey, i wanna get in on this", running down to the nearest emergency room, telling the dr they have extreme back pain, getting a perscription for vicodin and running right to the 420 dr and giving they a big long line of shit, just so they can get a recommendation and be "legal". i wonder how long its going to be before california starts kicking A REAL fuss about it and the ones who dont have a thing wrong with them fark it up for us who do, just like red bluf just did ( i spoke to someone in authority about that, and i was told the reason they did what they did is because to many people who didnt have a need were getting it and exploiting it). same thing with the "collectives" and "co-ops".....how many of those do you think actually are legit and really need it....it never ceases to amaze me.
i think whats going to happen is more and more cities and counties are gonna end up doing exactly what red bluff has done, and eventually, something will be passed to let the COUNTIES decide if they want to allow it or not, and then the majority of them will do the exact same thing red bluff did.