Vaporizer recommendations

Although portability is not all that important to me, if there is no downside, I wouldn't mind using a portable at home. The Volcano is way too expensive, especially as I could buy an iolite and an SSV for less money. I've never used a vaporizer of any kind before, but after 35 years of smoking, I'm kind of tired of the nasty taste from smoking, so the concept appeals to me. I really can't spend more than 300.00USD, so it comes down to either a launch box and 'da Buddha (best of both worlds?), or an iolite alone, or a non-portable and a pipe for the rare occasion when I indulge away from home. I'd like to hear your recommendations re: the iolite vis-a-vis the launch box, and also the SSV vis-a-vis 'da Buddha (what do you get for your extra $100?).

I have owned four Vaporizers up to now.
I have owned the O2mini (crap)
A Chinese knockoff of the (Vapezilla) (ok)
The Launch Box (Great Stealth and extremely portable requires a Single AA rechargeable to power and can get for under $100 plus a lifetime warranty.
I also own the Arizer Extreme paid $250 shipped and is by far the best vape I have owned thus far.
Checkout vaporpedia.com for whats available
and fuckcombustion.com for extensive reviews and i do mean extensive)
Peace :thumbsup:

I own Da Buddha. I love it personally, and as far as I can tell the unity functions just like the SSV. My friend used it for the first time yesterday, this gentleman has been using his Volcano for the last couple of years daily. He is going to sell his Volcano, and buy Da Buddha and a netbook with the money from the Volcano ( well he hopes he can do both ), but ya get the point. It's a great vape, simple, strong, effective, comes with a nifty carrying bag.

I've used a DBV and own an SSV, and the SSV won't get you much more performance wise. It can pack a little bigger punch hit wise, with a more concentrated air stream, but the DBV is a little more predictable in its hits. It also takes just a hair more care during use, due to the hands free connection. I like the SSV heater angle. I place it where it's convenient and easy to use, so I don't regret buying it over the cheaper model. But if $ is a factor, or you like the hands free setup, I'd go with the DBV.

I have both the Launch Box and iolite too. Each has different advantages in regards to portability. The LB does better with small amounts, as far as efficiency. The iolite is very stealthy, except in quiet areas where the hissing noise during reheating would be an issue. The LB is a very simple design, and should be much more reliable over time, and it has the best warranty on the market-unconditional and open ended.

I'd go with the DBV and LB over the iolite or SSV alone. You get really high value and both a home vape and a portable.

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Originally Posted by vapefiend

I've used a DBV and own an SSV, and the SSV won't get you much more performance wise. It can pack a little bigger punch hit wise, with a more concentrated air stream, but the DBV is a little more predictable in its hits. It also takes just a hair more care during use, due to the hands free connection. I like the SSV heater angle. I place it where it's convenient and easy to use, so I don't regret buying it over the cheaper model. But if $ is a factor, or you like the hands free setup, I'd go with the DBV.

I have both the Launch Box and iolite too. Each has different advantages in regards to portability. The LB does better with small amounts, as far as efficiency. The iolite is very stealthy, except in quiet areas where the hissing noise during reheating would be an issue. The LB is a very simple design, and should be much more reliable over time, and it has the best warranty on the market-unconditional and open ended.

I'd go with the DBV and LB over the iolite or SSV alone. You get really high value and both a home vape and a portable.

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Thank you very much (to all) for taking the time to respond. Exactly the comparison I was looking for, Vapefiend. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by senorx12562

The Volcano is way too expensive,

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Dude,
I used to think so too. I bought the cheapest (Vapir Mini Oxygen), then went to the Vapolution (a step up) and ended up with a Volcano Digit. Well if the Vapolution is the Honda Accord then the Volcano Digit is the Lexus or Mercedes or Cadillac. I've heard those other whip based systems are good ie SSV, Da Budha etc but they still aren't even close to the pure workmanship and design that allows mostly vapor and no smoke which we all know is harmful. The Volcano is worth the investment too since you save on herb consumption and can squeeze every bit of vapor out of each tiny morsel.

Go for efficiency and health and choose based on that. I like my Vapolution for portability (only not very stealthy), but it has the same weakness as many of the whip based systems. But the Volcano is the bomb and far above all the others IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Silverstone

Dude,
I used to think so too. I bought the cheapest (Vapir Mini Oxygen), then went to the Vapolution (a step up) and ended up with a Volcano Digit. Well if the Vapolution is the Honda Accord then the Volcano Digit is the Lexus or Mercedes or Cadillac. I've heard those other whip based systems are good ie SSV, Da Budha etc but they still aren't even close to the pure workmanship and design that allows mostly vapor and no smoke which we all know is harmful. The Volcano is worth the investment too since you save on herb consumption and can squeeze every bit of vapor out of each tiny morsel.

Go for efficiency and health and choose based on that. I like my Vapolution for portability (only not very stealthy), but it has the same weakness as many of the whip based systems. But the Volcano is the bomb and far above all the others IMHO.

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SSV makes custom units that put the beauty of the volcano to shame IMHO. The artistic detail and expandability options are currently unmatched in the vaporizer market.
And if u want to compare the vapes to cars then it would be:
Vapir Mini - Yugo (plastic unsafe pos)
Vapolution - Honda Civic (Low Cost, Dependable)
DBV - Acura TL (Great performance at a decent price)
SSV - Porsche 911 Manual Trans (So many options you'll go insane, with super hard core hits that'll take you from 60-0 in less than four seconds)
Volcano - Mercedes S-Class (Start it up and everything else is taken care of with inspiring precision and class)

Now while the Mercedes and the Porsche are both top shelf automobiles, they are two very different cars built for different drivers. One wants maximum power while the other has a desire for ease of use while maintaining excellent performance. This is just like the SSV and the Volcano! The SSV was built to be super customized and deliver the thickest vapor rips on the market (near bong like). The Volcano was designed to be an easy to use, luxury smoking device.
Another way to compare them is a manual transmission versus an automatic. You have complete control over the performance of the SSV, but it is more difficult to master. You have much greater consistency in the performance of the Volcano, but less control (much like an auto transmission).


Taylor

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Originally Posted by Silverstone

But the Volcano is the bomb and far above all the others IMHO.

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It is?

For efficiency, the Purple Days is a helluva lot more efficient. So is the Myrtlezap, so there goes that statement.

For super rich high vapor to air ratio hits? The SSV and the DBV will offer a higher vapor to air ratio hit than the 'Cano, so there goes that statement again.

Stealth factor? Again, the Purple Days wins out.

Sound? The 'Cano has a pump, so it makes noise. The SSV, the DBV, the Purple Days has no moving parts, so............totally silent.

Please don't misunderstand. The Volcano is a GREAT vape and does certain things better than any other vape out there, but to categorically state that it is "far above all the others", even stated as an opinion, is wrong.
It's kinda like sayin', in my opinion, the sky is not normally blue, but green.

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Originally Posted by wingedson

I own Da Buddha. I love it personally, and as far as I can tell the unity functions just like the SSV. My friend used it for the first time yesterday, this gentleman has been using his Volcano for the last couple of years daily. He is going to sell his Volcano, and buy Da Buddha and a netbook with the money from the Volcano ( well he hopes he can do both ), but ya get the point. It's a great vape, simple, strong, effective, comes with a nifty carrying bag.

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I own a Da Buddha as well and it's the best thing that has ever happened to me.

I ended up going with the DBV and am very satisfied. The only issue is that each user has to come to a draw rate/temp setting solution, but that just takes time and use. I'm very impressed with the simplicity and apparent durability. The thing seems absolutely bomb-proof. I'm sure my son will inherit the thing while muttering under his breath, "damn hippie stoner.":hippy:

I was very impressed with my Herbalaire :thumbsup:, in fact, I'm surprised it isn't more popular ... maybe just more advertising, with the others ... :smokin:

sorry, double-posted

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Originally Posted by the image reaper

I was very impressed with my Herbalaire :thumbsup:, in fact, I'm surprised it isn't more popular ... maybe just more advertising, with the others ... :smokin:

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The herbalAire sells quite well I think. I've owned one for a few years and it would still be my choice for a bag filler, considering the competing bag units are more costly (except the unreliable Vapir) and/or have the digital controllers, which increases your chances of failure. But dual mode units like the herbalAire and Extreme don't usually compete with whip only vapes. They're great if you plan to do both bags and direct draw, but if you want direct draw only, why bother with a dual mode unit?

Anyone try these cheap ebay vapes.

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Originally Posted by TheChameleon

Anyone try these cheap ebay vapes.

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I made the decision to pass on buying one of those a couple years back. I decided to not buy a cheapie and wait a couple more months till I could afford an SSV off eBay. I'm definitely happy with my decision because it was probably one of the best purchases I've ever made. I estimated that with the money I saved using it, it paid itself off in about a month and a half. That was well over a year ago and it still works like new despite being knocked onto the floor three times. In fact I just sold it to a friend for $175 with accessories, so that I could upgrade to the limited edition (1st of 5) Mind Eraser SSV. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by TheChameleon

Anyone try these cheap ebay vapes.

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I have an exact visual knock-off (in plain black packaging) that a local head shop sold me for $115.

They're the same folks who got me licensed, for my caregiver rights with no discount, in their dispensary.:wtf:

They're not my caregiver any longer, and I'm not that happy with the vape, either.:clap:

I'd never vaped before but 40+ yrs smoking have left me with very little lung left and taking medicine shouldn't make you sicker, no matter what hospitals do.

First problem; they recommended I vape at 300F, too low for full effect - very little vapor produced - so I felt like I wasn't even getting high, wasting good bud, with almost no pain effect.

After looking around here and fuckcombustion.com I've been using it at about 354F indicated, getting fairly good vapor with really big draws (after all those years of smoking my capacity is huge, I just can't use much of it.) I ended up at 354 because above that is where I start to taste plant.

I think the digital indicator is mostly marketing - you don't know what temp the element actually is, the knob doesn't seem calibrated in its effect, it's still guesswork. In addition, it has sometimes run away - climbed endlessly. Turning off and waiting for a couple of hours works but ain't no good when you need now! I wouldn't pay extra for this.:S4:

I've learned to use it, but it was a large learning curve, and I've tried a friend's SSV - it delivers much bigger hits. Have also tried a volcano at a local dispensary - gentler hit, similar to the one I have but way more consistent in vapor produced.

I'll be upgrading. Just haven't decided to what yet.

:thumbsup:Save your money.

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Originally Posted by starter09

I have an exact visual knock-off (in plain black packaging) that a local head shop sold me for $115.

They're the same folks who got me licensed, for my caregiver rights with no discount, in their dispensary.:wtf:

They're not my caregiver any longer, and I'm not that happy with the vape, either.:clap:

I'd never vaped before but 40+ yrs smoking have left me with very little lung left and taking medicine shouldn't make you sicker, no matter what hospitals do.

First problem; they recommended I vape at 300F, too low for full effect - very little vapor produced - so I felt like I wasn't even getting high, wasting good bud, with almost no pain effect.

After looking around here and fuckcombustion.com I've been using it at about 354F indicated, getting fairly good vapor with really big draws (after all those years of smoking my capacity is huge, I just can't use much of it.) I ended up at 354 because above that is where I start to taste plant.

I think the digital indicator is mostly marketing - you don't know what temp the element actually is, the knob doesn't seem calibrated in its effect, it's still guesswork. In addition, it has sometimes run away - climbed endlessly. Turning off and waiting for a couple of hours works but ain't no good when you need now! I wouldn't pay extra for this.:S4:

I've learned to use it, but it was a large learning curve, and I've tried a friend's SSV - it delivers much bigger hits. Have also tried a volcano at a local dispensary - gentler hit, similar to the one I have but way more consistent in vapor produced.

I'll be upgrading. Just haven't decided to what yet.

:thumbsup:Save your money.

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If you are buying a cheap vaporizer, then you are correct in saying that the digital readout is simply marketing. It is just something that makes the unit appear more sophisticated. I believe it is actually measuring the approximate temp of the heater element, which isn't the same as the air temp.

If you liked the type of hits that you got out of the SSV, then I would take a look at the DBV (DaBuddha Vaporizer). It is the little brother of the SSV, and contains the same ceramic heater but the outside isn't as flashy as the SSV. Still an amazing product, but at a more wallet-friendly price point.
If you prefer the ease of use that a bag system offers and don't need to monster rips that the SSV or DBV provide, then I would take a look at the HerbalAire. I've read quite a bit about them, and they seem to make a top quality product.

Taylor

Hello, I have tried a couple of vaporizers on the market. As you know, the Volcanos are very expensive, but if I may recomend one, it would be the KIA Vaporizer. It comes in a small lunchboxish shape and I believe it is the best for the price. For us it was 170USD. My friends and I bought one around a month ago, it not only does the trick, but if you are looking to save some herb, but at the same time get the full effects, I suggest the KIA Vaporizer. Also it produces a lot of vapor, but it does smell similar to slightly burnt popcorn, but i say that with caution because it is a bearable smell to endure. :)

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Originally Posted by MrMojoRisin7127

If you are buying a cheap vaporizer, then you are correct in saying that the digital readout is simply marketing. It is just something that makes the unit appear more sophisticated. I believe it is actually measuring the approximate temp of the heater element, which isn't the same as the air temp.

If you liked the type of hits that you got out of the SSV, then I would take a look at the DBV (DaBuddha Vaporizer). It is the little brother of the SSV, and contains the same ceramic heater but the outside isn't as flashy as the SSV. Still an amazing product, but at a more wallet-friendly price point.
If you prefer the ease of use that a bag system offers and don't need to monster rips that the SSV or DBV provide, then I would take a look at the HerbalAire. I've read quite a bit about them, and they seem to make a top quality product.

Taylor

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Great advice. I would have said the exact same thing with one addition. If efficiency is at the top of your priority list, than do consider the Purple Days vape but they are a bit harder to hit, so someone with decreased lung capacity would be served better by the vapes mentioned above. But the PD can provide 3 to 4 good, tasty hits from 0.025g. Not too many other vapes that can claim that.

good advice here, but very confusing. I did not buy the cheap ebay vape because you get what you pay for... I am off to research some of the suggestions here, I think getting the most vapor from a gram is very important, saving money on a vaporizer is not worth wasting money on inefficiency for year.

thanks for all the suggestions.

I love the Kia. It is very much like a SSV or Da Buddah but its more compact and comes in a metal box with a lock. There is a model that has a fixed temp and another with an adjustable temp. Both are great. Check them out at
KIA Vaporizer - Herbal Vaporizers - Tobacco Vaporizers - Herbal Vaporizer - Buy Vaporizer
A great design.

JM

I bought an Easy Vape for $80. Works f'in great!

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Originally Posted by TheChameleon

Anyone try these cheap ebay vapes.

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Kinda looks like my EasyVape. I bought one for $80 and it does the job..GREAT! i don't see the neccessity to spend $200. It heats it up just fine and i get high for like 3-4 hours off of 2 deep hits.

I'm interested in the Zephyr Ion Vaporizer. So simple a monkey could use it and apparently with less circuitry than the Extreme to go bad on ya. Looks like a good thick vapor. I see no reason why one couldn't use it with a whip. Hopefully I'll get a good look at one at the THC Expose this weekend in LA!

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Originally Posted by leadmagnet

I'm interested in the Zephyr Ion Vaporizer. So simple a monkey could use it and apparently with less circuitry than the Extreme to go bad on ya. Looks like a good thick vapor. I see no reason why one couldn't use it with a whip. Hopefully I'll get a good look at one at the THC Expose this weekend in LA!

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Yup. I have one. Great vape. They are going to be offering a whip by next month.

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Originally Posted by lwien123

Yup. I have one. Great vape. They are going to be offering a whip by next month.

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Do the valves for the bags work as well as they claim?

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Originally Posted by leadmagnet

Do the valves for the bags work as well as they claim?

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Yup.

Ended up getting an extreme Q and an iolite at very good prices.

what's a good temperature to vape w/out burning so much weed?

Another vote for Herbalaire here.

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Originally Posted by weedlover714

what's a good temperature to vape w/out burning so much weed?

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365 to 395 degrees F.

I've owned a Silver Surfer for 2 years and it works like the day I bought it. No maintenance other than washing glass parts as you would do with a bong.

Highly recommended.


Also, the whip fits right into an 18.8 female bong joint. So you can hook your Silver Surfer right into your bong. Hit it nice and soft and you'll be good to go.

I love whip vaporizers. I've been fortunate enough to get to try out both the SSV and the DBV for long periods of time. In facts, I've gotten to try out lots of vaporizers in general.

In my opinion...

The SSV is not worth the extra money unless you just want better aesthetics.

Also the DBV grounded-glass wand stays in easier than the SSV grounded-glass wand.

What the hell is a SSV??

I own a Vapor Brothers hands free it gets the job done, just hate changing screens.

ssv i think is silver surfer vape, they are $250 and come in silver and black..
and black ones are more expensive like 279 i have no idea why :)

what is a better vape if you like thick pure hits vapolution or da buddha ?

Don't know what you mean by "pure". Vapor quality, as far as included toxins, is a matter of temperature, not model. The DBV, being a full sized whip model, naturally gives bigger hits than the narrow bowl on the Vapor allows. You could argue that the Vapo (used properly) is more efficient though, since really big hits are kind of wasteful.