some seasoned help is desperately needed. troubleshooting form filled out!

E-indoor
E-soil,
E-specific medium potting soil
CSL-Soil type/brand waupaca materials

SCL-Anything you have added to the soil nothing
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH 6.8
E-Water source tap
E-Source water pH 7.0
HRT-Source water EC (if hydro)
E-Age of plant 50 days
E-Type of fertilizer mg bloom booster 1/4 tsp. to the gallon
E-Rate of application (if hydro, this is your PPM number, preferably after each component is added)
E-Lighting source and distance from plant 8, 4 ft. floro. 3200 lumens each 6 in. above the plants
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) 70/60
HD-Reservoir temperature
E-Air % Relative humidity unknown
E-Lighting schedule 12/12
E-Type of ventilation your room has open door, fan to outside
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution? no



i am starting to get depressed, all up until i put my babies on the 12/12, things were going really well, plants were healthy, but now 2 weeks into flowering, , my girl has been showing some leaf damage, and on some of the newer shoots, around where the buds are starting to grow, the leaves look like they are burning off and twisted, on some the lower fan leaves are getting spotty.

i flushed them a week and a half ago, and i just added 1/4 tsp mg bloom booster to the water the day before yesterday., i was wondering if some one would know what i might do to correct my prob. by the way, this is my first grow. thank you.

So If it is just the lower fan leaves starting to wilt and spot. Then some one correct me if im wrong but usually they use the lower fan leaves up to feed the buds due to lack of light getting to them as well either way not a big deal. but if you have leaves coming out of your newly forming buds that don't looks so good then there might be a problem can you take a close up pic of such leaves? because if that is just your lower fan leaves in pics id say you are fine:thumbsup: Some one let him know if im wrong.

Peace

judging by your pics, i'd guess overwatering. mj wants to get pretty dry between
waterings so you need to learn the 'heft' test. all that means is that you need
to learn what your buckets weight feels like when they're dry and when they're
wet, then you judge when to water by how heavy the pot feels.

i'd also suggest that you try and relax, remember that marijuana is a weed so it's
pretty damned hardy. also, if you're anything like me then there will be a second
grow followed by a third and so on, i haven't bought any weed in over a year now.
once you start smokin' your own grown, you'll never want to go back.

just so you know, when i started i popped 30 seeds and killed 30 seedlings.
for my second attempt i popped 30 more seeds and managed to keep 5 of
them alive (luckily, 4 turned out to be female).

then, last year i threw down and bought some seeds from a seedbank.
so my last attempt i popped 5 Pure Power Plant seeds and 5 White Rhino seeds
(this all happened almost exactly a year ago) and all of them are still
alive and providing me with cuttings for my little DrBud style SOG.

btw, i ended up with 5 White Rhino females and 4 PPP females.

hey quarter, here are a couple pics, sorry about the quality, my camera sux..

hey bozo, i'm trying to relax, but i am just too excited at this point, first grow, you know what i mean. i just got some seeds from dr. chronic today "the church" cant wait to try them babies

Aloha, TnG

You are in good hands here.

Hey Bozo.
Good call!
Thought I'd add a couple pennies.:twocents:
I noticed that they sit on a carpet.
I'm guessing that you try to add" just enough" water to keep from having the tray overflow?
Looks like it was a watering issue.
It's a good idea to take the plant to the tub or shower when you water, then use at least as many gallons as the pot they are in.
Reason for this flush is simple.
The water running out the bottom creates a vacuum of sorts, kind of a vapor lock, that draws air in from the top behind the last of the water.
It also rinses out the salt buildup from the nutes

A dribble out the bottom does not.
"Careful" watering can cause the soil to saturate, stagnate, and drown the roots.

I was sure that was the preview button:o

Didn't want to run off without saying,
Aloha, y'all

Weezard

Are you using fertilizer? It kind of looks like a combination of over watering and nute burn.. Also what kind of soil is that? It looks alright but I would add a bit more pearlite next go round..

I'd also say it looks like a combination of overfertilizing (judging by those bumpy areas and contorted leaves) and maybe slightly overwatered (judging by the slightly droopy leaves). MG Bloom Booster is a heavy fertilizer, often used for uber-hardy perennials, so just be very careful how much of that you use.

You also didn't mention how often you're feeding with it. You don't want to use it every time you water, or you'll risk building up a bunch of salts and elements that aren't immediately being used by the plants. Also, what's the recommended dosage listed on the box? If it's 1/4tsp per gallon, you should consider cutting that at least in half (preferrably 1/4 of the recommended strength), and work your way up to see just how much the plants can tolerate. These plants are hardy enough, and can take a whole lot of abuse, but one of the most common mistakes made by new growers is simply loving their plants to death. Give it just some clean water for the next couple of waterings, and monitor the growth. If it clears up, start it back on 1/4-1/2 strength nutrients and go from there.

Best of luck. :thumbsup:

see, before i was using reg miracle grow, full strength as directed, but i was using it like ever 3-4 days, also i was watering like every other day, i thought my plants were liking it. when i put them into flowering they started to look like shit. i flushed them right before flowering, then i didnt give them anything for almost 2 weeks, besides a little water for the ones that needed it, then i give them that mg bloom booster, but less than half what was recommended. i am going to wait now until the soil is good and dry before i water again, its been like 3 days now.
im hoping that if i cut back on the water and the nutes, she"ll come back beautifully.

I agree, it's looking like overwatering, and slight overnute.

Working with five gallon buckets, you need a few adjustments.
1) Adaquate drainage/airflow ports. This means holes in bottom and sides to allow moisture escape, and increases airflow to roots.

2) You need enough soil in the pot, that the air above the soil won't sit stagnant. Fill to within a couple of inches from top, leaving just enough room to allow adaquate watering.

3) In five gallon buckets, you have to adjust watering, because the soil near the bottom will remain moist for what seems like forever. If you are not allowing that soil to dry between waterings/feedings, you risk lockout and root damage. (root rot) Fill a bucket with soil, and a half-gallon of water, and see how heavy it feels. This will give you a general idea on how light the pots should feel before adding water. The 'brownie toothpick' method for checking soil moisture by sticking your finger in, doesn't work with that type of pot.

hey rusty, when i set up the buckets, i first drilled about 15 , 3/8" holes around the bottom of the buckets, then i put 4-5 inches of river rock in the bottom and added soil to the top of the bucket. i figured i would put the rocks in the bottom for aid in draining, so there shouldnt be any stagnant water. so are you saying that i should probably put holes about halfway up for better airflow?

Yup. :thumbsup:

In my 5 gallon buckets, I have around 10 x 1/2" holes in the bottom, and 4 or five holes around the sides, from half way down...to near to the bottom. Air ports (holes) are unnecessary above the half-full mark. No, the soil does not 'leak-out' of the holes.

Also, drainage rocks are very important, but I quit putting the rocks inside of my pots. I now keep the rocks in the tray under the pot. (actually, yesterday I cut a milk crate down and cut it into 5" x 5" pieces, to fit into the bottom trays. Rocks can make the pot sit funny...this remedies that problem) I do this for all sizes of pots, because I got tired of picking rocks out of the roots when transplanting. Works great, and I have approx. 15% more rootspace now. Keeps the pot up out of the tray so I can better see runoff, too. Prevents overfilling, or at the very least...I can see a disaster coming, with enough time to do something about it. :jointsmile:

does it mean anything if the runoff from the plants are discolered? mine was kinda rusty colered.

Totally normal. This is the reason those color-coded ph test kits are unusable for testing runoff. It skews the color-coded results.

Anyway...it's just the nutrients and organics flushing out. Looks kinda like a tea, but don't re-use it. It will throw-off your nutrient levels, can possibly be re-introducing salts, and you risk damage to the plant.

your right about it looking like tea. hey man, i just wanted to say thanx for all the help and support here. i really appreciate it. i just got in some "church" seeds from dr. chronic. i hope the experience i am getting from this first grow will aid me in some finished high quality product. have you ever heard of this strain?

Strains are like assholes...everybody has one...and they all stink. :thumbsup:

I haven't purchased nor have I been gifted a strain in many years, but Church sounds better than Donkey Dick or Mosque, I guess. Dr. Chronic is a familiar name, but I have no experience with any of the seed houses. My strains work just fine, and I mix my own genetics anyway.