this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Obama Will Sign Spending Bill Despite Earmarks
President will break a campaign pledge on Monday and sign a budget bill laden with millions in lawmakers' pet projects, administration officials said.
AP
Monday, March 02, 2009
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama will break a campaign pledge and sign a budget bill laden with millions in lawmakers' pet projects, administration officials said.
Administration budget chief Peter Orszag and White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel both downplayed the $410 billion spending bill and signaled Obama would hold his nose and sign it. Orszag said: "We want to just move on. Let's get this bill done, get it into law and move forward.
Said Emanuel: "That's last year's business."
*****************
hmmm, and let's not forget, the 'out of Iraq' timetable, has been shoved back twice, now it's a 'projected' 2010 withdrawal ... same as Pres. Bush's schedule ... and, still going to leave 30,000-35,000 troops behind, when we do pull out ... and, then, there's the Afghanistan/Pakistan Surge, coming up ... and, the Clinton bitch just promised $900 Million dollars in aid, to re-build the Gaza Strip ................................ excuse me ?? you're doing WHAT with my money ??? .... :mad:
where in the hell is your CHANGE ?, ... dumbass KoolAid drinkers, it's like the saying goes, " If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything " ... :wtf:
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
thats the problem dude
barack has just become another victim of the american political system
you really think every politician out there starts off as a terrible person? i am sure when obama was campaigning that all his promises were sincere and he truly wanted to stick to them and his ideas and stuff but the ploitical system we live in has just swallowed him whole
one man cant change anything, its the whole system that needs to be up-ended
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
It appears just business as usual. Even though i'm a conservative I was hoping maybe we would have a president that would keep his word. I was wrong again.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stemis516
thats the problem dude
barack has just become another victim of the american political system
you really think every politician out there starts off as a terrible person? i am sure when obama was campaigning that all his promises were sincere and he truly wanted to stick to them and his ideas and stuff but the ploitical system we live in has just swallowed him whole
one man cant change anything, its the whole system that needs to be up-ended
'victim' ???? , now, 'poor Obama' is a frigging 'victim' ??? are you nuts ?, he's a damned CHICAGO POLITICIAN, and came up the political ladder as a BAGMAN FOR MAYOR DALEY !! :wtf: ... you think he arrived in Washington D.C., as some innocent babe in the woods ? ... lost his cherry on his first night sleeping in the White House ?? ... talk about NAIVE :wtf:
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
'victim' ???? , now, 'poor Obama' is a frigging 'victim' ??? are you nuts ?, he's a damned CHICAGO POLITICIAN, and came up the political ladder as a BAGMAN FOR MAYOR DALEY !! :wtf: ... you think he arrived in Washington D.C., as some innocent babe in the woods ? ... lost his cherry on his first night sleeping in the White House ?? ... talk about NAIVE :wtf:
A politician only lies when his/her lips are are moving.
Did ya ever notice that *MOST* politicians are lawyers?? I guess they become politicians when they have nothing better to do while the rest of us have to work for a living.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
This doesn't surprise me. Obama won the election based on the following: outstanding speaker (guess what folks, people write a lot of that stuff for him), played up his black heritage and America still feels guilty for slavery so awww poor black guy, remember MLK Jr, ok lets give this guy a shot...our black JFK. Then finally the false promises he made which you can read above^^. I'm an independent but lean right on a lot of things. McCain has experience that only comes with time and age. Obama never had executive experience or even balanced a budget but hes young and speaks misleading poetry. McCain also lost because Palin wasn't the best choice but if you compare a governor and senator, governor clearly is more executive experience. I don't want to bash too hard but he's also technically a Kenyan citizen under the British neutrality Act. I want to believe in "change" but so far, nothing significant .:hippy:
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
His tax breaks for the middle and working class don't do any good if these people can't find work.
Nobody can be forced to keep a business running if they think they are being taxed too much, and many business owners are just retiring, or investing their money in other ways, because it's not worth it for them to keep their places open.
Most people would rather pay higher taxes and have work, and health benefits, than get a tax break and remain unemployed and uninsured - which is what Obama's plan is doing. Of course, someone like Obama, coming from the privileged background that he grew up in might just not get that part. I voted for him, and am dissapointed already. I doubt that McCain/Palin would have accomplished much more by now, but we'll never know.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Obama sat in front of a radical bigot for 20+ years.
Married by the black racist Wright and had his daughters baptized by him.
Obama then claimed no such hate preaching....until he was exposed otherwise having been there all that time.
Obama is the Pied Piper to all the lame idiots who have no real moral compass but rather, a mind set of such liberal trash they see and hear nothing but their own contradictions and rank pacifism.
The mousies who voted for him are all about themselves and not the fortitude to do what's right.
To stand idle in the face of evil doing nothing is worse than the evil itself.
Ayers is a good buddy with Obama and here now we have a man who associated with a known terrorist and claims no such thing...as Prez.
All the while his kids went to school together, stayed at each others homes in the same neighborhood.
Even had the announcement celebration of running held in Ayer's home.
Obama is a humanist and a socialist....certianly not a born again Christian by any stretch of the imagination.
Obama gave plenty of hints concerning his ultra liberal bent and how he would redistribute the wealth and so much more in the humanist's agendas.
The mousies who were enamored by his soothing mouth full of humanist liberal socialism didn't give a damn, all for the cause of taking from the haves and doling out to the have nots.
The ''Stimulus'' bill is not an attempt to curb the financial ''crisis'' but to force changes without open debate.
The ''crisis'' Obama rants of was Barny Frank who was butt buddies with the queer CEO of Fannie May and Freddie Mack.
Whenever a Republican tried to warn Frank and his leadership of the telling danger signs of the loan practices of the same....Barny only lied to protect himself and his queer butt buddie he was getting his nuts off with.
Why not?
Obama along with a host of other liberals knew full well what was really going on and took their share of stolen tax payer's money as they wanted as well.
Obama has all along set out to do his social engineering by way of economics and over 2 trillion dollar$.
With Nancy in harmony she led the cram down the throats of every citizen.
Queers were elated getting their votes in for an ultra liberal who would cater to their repugnant and unnatural ''life style''.
Even though Obama said he was for marriage between a man and woman...the queers were just too giddy and flocked to him.
Obama is more than willing to lose his second term chance of re-election so long as he can shove his anti-God ultra liberal socialist agenda into laws and change our nation's social/cultural fabric by means of the almighty dollar.
Soon to follow there will be a well over 500% tax value placed on ammunition sales and a host of bans to curtail our rights to own and bear arms.
Our nation will once again openly fund abortion on demand and late term live birth abortions and will continue to murder innocent unborn babies.
Now add 100s of millions $$$$s to fund world wide abortions and place our nation in responsibility for the wanton murder of millions more unborn babies....world wide.
The energy problems that keep us all held hostage to the Middle East can be dealt with by drilling in Alaska, off shore and in the state(s) with a 1000+ years of natural gas.
Nuke energy is the safest and most productive way to harness more clean energy and ''save the environment'' as well.
Solar energy can do wonders as well if allowed to, but the greenies have their own ideas.
Well now intolerant liberals have their messiah and all we can do is watch this nation go down the dark pit who knows how deep and dark.
Congrats mousies.
You got your messiah as you wished for.
Obama and company certainly loves all the mousies who have the big ears tuning into the lies of the Godless and the Pied Piper's tunes without the truth put into words.
Love them little mousies.
Mousies is what I like to eat.
Bite they little heads off...
Nibble they tiny feet.
(The Pied Piper's chant as he tosses KFC bones across the second floor of the White House).
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
I see a lot of names here I recognise!!!
Hi all!!
Are you people so blind?
Small change in < 60 days
VS.
Corruption, torture, war, unemployment, bank failure, in the last 7 years.
Just sayin, I would do a good flush, "THE ELECTION"
I would come back with a 1/4 solution till things thrive, then add the Big BUD.
If you don't like this method, move!!!!
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
His tax breaks for the middle and working class don't do any good if these people can't find work.
Nobody can be forced to keep a business running if they think they are being taxed too much, and many business owners are just retiring, or investing their money in other ways, because it's not worth it for them to keep their places open.
Most people would rather pay higher taxes and have work, and health benefits, than get a tax break and remain unemployed and uninsured - which is what Obama's plan is doing. Of course, someone like Obama, coming from the privileged background that he grew up in might just not get that part. I voted for him, and am dissapointed already. I doubt that McCain/Palin would have accomplished much more by now, but we'll never know.
I think you are correct about McCain. I was so hot and pissed when he put his campaign on hold to go back and help FUCK UP SHIT!. Obviously he was heading down the same path, may have done some things marginally different, but just the fact that he was for the bailout, he lost the tiny amount of respect that I had for him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreadscale
I see a lot of names here I recognise!!!
Hi all!!
Are you people so blind?
Small change in < 60 days
VS.
Corruption, torture, war, unemployment, bank failure, in the last 7 years.
Just sayin, I would do a good flush, "THE ELECTION"
I would come back with a 1/4 solution till things thrive, then add the Big BUD.
If you don't like this method, move!!!!
That's pretty ignorant, for 1, I haven't read anywhere here anyone saying that they hate this country blah blah, you must be confusing the people posting here with the bedwetters that were saying that very thing last year. You can disagree with policy w/out leaving the country. Very tolerant, "you don't agree, then leave!"
I would understand if someone was here ranting on about how horrible this country is, but that is not the case. LIke I said you must be remembering some of the posts from the bedwetters from when Bush was in office.
Me, I am A-OK with whatever he does, from what I can tell, we will likely have the next greatest president of our lifetime in about 4 years. Remember 1976, remember 1980. Everything happens for a reason I suppose.
And yeah, it's also ignorant to say that we aren't allowed to criticize him because he has been president for "x" number of days. How long is that going to last, I can see it now, "uh, he's only been president for 540 days now cut him some slack jeez!?" LMFAO
OH wait, nevermind, poor Obama is a victim! That was the best one of all, holy shit! LMFAO. I bet this thread gets closed in less than 3 days lol!
Remember, all else fails BLAME BUSH, no matter what it is, BLAME BUSH, and then compare him to Hitler. There, saved you from replying! LOL:D
Oh wait, he did say that he would end the raids, so happy days eh! Guess we aren't supposed to pay any attention to anything else.
Congrats! No more raids, not that it will matter, when Obama and his leftist agenda goons try to run this country into the ground. I just know that no matter what they do though, I have faith in Americans and know that when push comes to shove we will do the right thing. Whether the sheeple like it or not! LOL
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stemis516
thats the problem dude
one man cant change anything, its the whole system that needs to be up-ended
Anybody with a half a lick of sense knows that obama was talking out his ass on the campagn trail. Its just very unfortunate that there were so many sheeple that swallowed the crap he spewed. Now *EVERYBODY* has to live with it, and the resultant consequenses.
The tax break for earnings under $250,000 will keep me from growing my company, and hiring another employee or 2. I can envision filing tax returns on $249,000, and use the rest for a luxury "retreat" for the company "board meeting".
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Wow, there's some close-minded, impatient people in this forum. Not something I'd expect from weed growers. (you need both patience and open-mindedness(to smoke ignore propaganda)).
If he hasn't done anything after a year then maybe you can get angry. Right now you have no right. It takes a lot of time to do shit when your following Government guidelines.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
lol was just trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt....hell i didnt vote for him
but i guess the majority of this board is just too far conservative to accept that
you people missed my point completely.....the fact is any1 of us could walk into politics with good intentions and we'd come out the other end completely different
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by luciddreamer
Wow, there's some close-minded, impatient people in this forum. Not something I'd expect from weed growers. (you need both patience and open-mindedness(to smoke ignore propaganda)).
If he hasn't done anything after a year then maybe you can get angry. Right now you have no right. It takes a lot of time to do shit when your following Government guidelines.
That post is just dripping with irony dude. Someone from Australia is calling the U.S. citizens close minded and to wait a year for us to see how basically a one year budget works out. Our budget, our economy, our paychecks, our retirement, not ours. Unless you've been living under a rock you should know many people in America can't wait a year. The bills aren't waiting neither can we. I'm sure this holds true around many parts of the world right now.
Have you seen how quickly things can change in one year? Normally or in the past it does usually take a year maybe longer to see the effects of economic policy change but not in this current state. He's got his finger in a fist sized hole and there are more leaks coming. It's not hard to decide if you are in favor of a budget proposal or not.
Dreamer, we have a saying here, the devil is in the detail. As Obama releases details of his budget and bail out plans it's starting to look like to many people and experts that he is planting the seeds of socialism into every aspect of the government. While many people here have good things to say about Socialism,
This is not a socialist country and I feel confident when I say most Americans don't like socialism. This is not a socialistic country.
Some are also saying that he is going back on campaign promises already. It doesn't take a year to see this.
Wait a year, please. Even Ben Bernanke and Tim Geithner came out this week and told Obama more action on the banks and quick too.
I don't think anyone is being inpatient when it comes to approval or disapproval of his economic plan for the coming year and I for one think his plan stinks.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by luciddreamer
Wow, there's some close-minded, impatient people in this forum. Not something I'd expect from weed growers. (you need both patience and open-mindedness(to smoke ignore propaganda)).
If he hasn't done anything after a year then maybe you can get angry. Right now you have no right. It takes a lot of time to do shit when your following Government guidelines.
I am confused. Why exactly do we need to wait for him to fuck up more! He has already proven exactly what he is capable of in the short time he has been around.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
What???
Takes time to do shit you say???
If you spent $1,000,000.00 every day 365 days a year...year after year...
It would have taken you from the time Jesus Christ was born until now and you'd still have million$ left to retire on.
Your Obama has done it with Nancy and socialist tribe in tow 36 DAYS.
More money spent by our nation in one month than in the entire history of out nation.
Get a grip on what a few trillion dollars means.
Alot of $hit!!
And all in a ruse of a ''crisis'' scam which by no other name is social engineering to turn this into a *Nationalized Socialist Republic.
The 15 year power grab the Dems are getting will be our final demise if their far left liberals take over our medical care and banking.
Socialism has never proven to succeed and as of yet not one country past or present has ever bettered by doing so.
Only the control freaks have control in a socialistic state.
*National Socialist Republic was Nazi Germany
Quote:
Originally Posted by luciddreamer
Wow, there's some close-minded, impatient people in this forum. Not something I'd expect from weed growers. (you need both patience and open-mindedness(to smoke ignore propaganda)).
If he hasn't done anything after a year then maybe you can get angry. Right now you have no right. It takes a lot of time to do shit when your following Government guidelines.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by luciddreamer
Wow, there's some close-minded, impatient people in this forum. Not something I'd expect from weed growers. (you need both patience and open-mindedness(to smoke ignore propaganda)).
If he hasn't done anything after a year then maybe you can get angry. Right now you have no right. It takes a lot of time to do shit when your following Government guidelines.
Being a business owner gives me quite a different perspective. I am more worried about my company making it through all the problems, than I am with my home or personal stuff. Its not just for me but also for the other people and businesses that I help support in one form, fashion, or another. Weed growing has nothing to do with the grand scheme of things, because that is not gonna effect my base rate of pay. My company on the other hand, is a completely different story.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Obama is not a victim of the political system. If anybody is a victim of the system it is the Americans paying to keep it running! Obama has been groomed for this position ever since his days in college, all one needs to do is look at his relationship with Zbigniew Brzezinski during his grooming days.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
I agree. Somebody forked over a lot of money to put Obama through college, and that is the only thing in his pass that I've seen that hasn't been adequately addressed.
