Hello everybody! New on the site...heres my deal:

First off let me say thank you IamN2pot for the great stickies posted above. Second, let me say how stupid and stressful it is to smoke while on probation. I have been lurking around on this and a couple other forums throughout the past year and finally registered a few minutes ago. I have been on probation for a while now because i was arressted (not charged) for possession of 2 ounces and started using the whizzinator from the get go once a month for 7 months until i got caught with it :( which put my a$$ in jail for a month for violating. I guess i got a little too comfortable using it which led to me being careless. The guy watching me noticed i started peeing too quickly and immediately asked if i had a whizzinator on me. I played stupid and ended up having a cop pat me down. Now everybody in the building knows me as the whizzinator guy so since then (last sept) i decided to start detoxing once every month and have wasted my money just about everything except water, vitamin b, thc tests, and aspirin LOL I have tried numerous different drinks, pills, solutions and they all pretty much didnt work. Thanks to the dilution method i used as a backup plan i have always passed!

On to my point...

Because i violated i am now court ordered into a residential program for 2 months which i start on friday. (this is all for smoking weed only! :mad: ) I get to leave for work thoughtout the week so i am not completely trapped. Last time i smoked was Sunday and i will be tested this friday followed by some randoms while i am in the program. I plan to dilute for this fridays test but am kind of stuck on what to about the randoms afterwards...not to mention i will be tested on the beginning of the month again at my po's office. I am not exactly sure what kind of tests they will be but i am pretty sure its going to be the cheap dip stick tests since this place isnt really a top notch facility. Also, i WILL NOT be smoking anymore until i am out of this place. My only reasonable options are:

-After fridays test continue to drink water on a daily basis to keep me diluted until i am naturally clean. (i smoked 4 days before a test once and did nothing but drink a lot of water and passed)

-Try and use the whizzinator there or quick fix (how do you secure quickfix to your crotch area....tight underwear?)

-Buy the Permanent 5 day cleanser (i have not tried yet) which would hopefully permanently cleanse me.

Just for reference i am 24, weigh 165, am about 5'11", and have 5% body fat! I ALWAYS test myself at least 5-10x a month when detoxing so i know i am clean before i go in. I have 10 thc tests to use for this process and do not want to mess this up! (although i already have) I apologize for the excessive post but it is my first so be easy on me. Any input is greatly appreciated! :thumbsup:

I wish you luck on finding the Whizzinator. Puck Technologies (the birthplace of the Whizzinator and Go Number1 Synthetic urine) have pleaded guilty over 3 months ago on Federal charges of conspiracy to defraud drug testing. As part of the case, the Government has pursued forfeiture of all of the companys assets as well as its internet domain names, effectively spelling the end of Puck Technologies as a business.

THC is fat-soluble, not liquid-soluble. Therefore, there is no such thing is a product that can permanently get rid of THC. Those "5-day permanent cleanser" claims are nothing but sales pitches designed to lure in the credulous and uninformed, and separate them from their cash. Dont fall for it.

Only time and exercise can rid the body of THC.

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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast

I wish you luck on finding the Whizzinator. Puck Technologies (the birthplace of the Whizzinator and Go Number1 Synthetic urine) have pleaded guilty over 3 months ago on Federal charges of conspiracy to defraud drug testing. As part of the case, the Government has pursued forfeiture of all of the companys assets as well as its internet domain names, effectively spelling the end of Puck Technologies as a business.

THC is fat-soluble, not liquid-soluble. Therefore, there is no such thing is a product that can permanently get rid of THC. Those "5-day permanent cleanser" claims are nothing but sales pitches designed to lure in the credulous and uninformed, and separate them from their cash. Dont fall for it.

Only time and exercise can rid the body of THC.

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thank u for your input burnt! i have read numerous threads and posts by u. i am aware of puck technologies misforutne but i do still have access to a whizzinator and clean/synthetic urine. i also know that thc is stored in fat which i why i have yet to make the p5 purchase. i am willing try anything once and in my case it would be worth it either way to try the permanent cleanse. what do i have to lose besides money? lol for now i am going to dilute and i just purchased quickfix on ebay for 17$ shipped!

or, you could quit smoking pot, until you no longer have to take the tests ... the choice between quitting, or breaking probation, would be an easy decision for myself ... :smokin:

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Originally Posted by chobble19

i am willing try anything once and in my case it would be worth it either way to try the permanent cleanse. what do i have to lose besides money?

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Time, energy, and sensibility. All of which could be better spent on following the Dilution sticky, rather than some bogus ripoff magic potion that accomplishes the same thing as the Dilution sticky - nothing more.

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Originally Posted by the image reaper

or, you could quit smoking pot, until you no longer have to take the tests ... the choice between quitting, or breaking probation, would be an easy decision for myself ... :smokin:

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i know this as i mentioned at the beginning of post 1

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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast

Time, energy, and sensibility. All of which could be better spent on following the Dilution sticky, rather than some bogus ripoff magic potion that accomplishes the same thing as the Dilution sticky - nothing more.

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Time, energy, and sensibility used to pass a test IMO would be well worth it. I am going to use the dilution method as mentioned twice so far but am unsure of what to do about hte random tests...i wanted a little input from some1 who has actually used (not read about) the p5...also from somebody who has continued to dilute days after the test.

Those that have passed with magic potions did so because of the dilution factor associated with the products use and not the product itself. All magic potions work via the principle of dilution (that is, when they do work). They work because of the amount of water thats required to be consumed with them. When people pass, they wrongly credit the magic potion when the real hero was the water consumed with the potion, which effectively diluted the concentration of THC metabolites in the bladder to the point where the sample registered below the screens cutoff limit.

Its all about the water.

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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast

Those that have passed with magic potions did so because of the dilution factor associated with the products use and not the product itself. All magic potions work via the principle of dilution (that is, when they do work). They work because of the amount of water thats required to be consumed with them. When people pass, they wrongly credit the magic potion when the real hero was the water consumed with the potion, which effectively diluted the concentration of THC metabolites in the bladder to the point where the sample registered below the screens cutoff limit.

Its all about the water.

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great info & very true! i honestly consumed mari j because it is my medicine! every time i used a detox of some sort i always followed the dilution method with it. i do believe some detoxes out there do help out tho. i also refrain from eating that whole day which wasnt hard b/c not smoking DESTROYS my appetite not to mention it has me a lil depressed at times and unable to sleep! (withdrawels)

i spoke to the person who referred me to this permanent cleanser and she said it worked after 10 days and was in a similar situation i am now. i am unsure of the kits exact contents as of now and am wondering what the directions are. i am going to my local head shop to get some more info on it. 2 days and counting till my first test at this program! having my red meat dinner tonight =]

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i do believe some detoxes out there do help out tho.

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On that note, would you care to explain in what manner do they help out where the Dilution recipe doesnt?

Wish i could help you out here, but i've never been in trouble for it. I would probably just stop smoking too, though that wouldn't be near as hard for me as many other people. I need to ask though, how does a person go about getting caught? Just a pat-down by the police after some escapade? Caught outside in the open?

I've got one drug test left..11/12...I quit smoking for three months until I was comfortable that I could pass them..It wasn't worth the jail time for me..once I'm done with these tests I'm a free man again..

Of course this isn't rightly a case of me, (the kettle) calling you, (the pot) black, because I wasn't comfortable smoking until I was comfortable that I could pass a test..live and learn is all I can say..that feeling you're feeling isn't very comforting is it?? it wasn't for me when I got called three days after smoking..thanks to dilution I was okay..but after that I quit smoking about 10 days earlier..hate to see a fellow stoner be in so much shit because of our asinine laws, but we just have to stick it out until things change..

Heyo jimbo, crispi told me what you said about looking for .308..I made the decision to get the mini-14 within about a week of talking to the guy, seeing what prices were like on the internet I wanted to act quick..and for 500 it was a damn good deal..I went to the gun show the day after to pick up a couple more magazines, saw one just like mine only a couple years newer for $750..I don't need anything too special, just something that'll work good in a worse-case scenerio..

So pretty much the more fat you have, the more THC will stick to you?

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So pretty much the more fat you have, the more THC will stick to you?

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basically..fat cells retain it..I always used dilution and have a relatively low body fat..but I think someone with more body fat would certainly have less of a chance of passing a test if that's what you're asking

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On that note, would you care to explain in what manner do they help out where the Dilution recipe doesnt?

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would u care to explain how wouldnt it help out?

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would u care to explain how wouldnt it help out?

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Simple. Detox potions are an overpriced "Dilution recipe in a bottle". As I already stated, they work because of the water thats consumed with them. They do not remove THC from the body and they do not convert THC into something that cannot be detected, as the makers and peddlers would like the consumer to believe. There is no product that can permanently remove THC from the body. Only time and exercise can do this.

Now would you care to answer my last question?

I'll answer your question if you want. I just passed a pre-employment screening using an detox drink that I purchased instead of N2's recipe, even though I was well aware of the fact that I was just diluting. I did this for safety and ease of use. I've never done any diluting before, and honestly, I didn't trust myself to not fuck it up. I figured that these potions, while obviously over-priced, already include the vitamins etc. needed to hide the fact that I was diluting. So while N2's recipe is cheaper, personally, I was more comfortable with the product I purchased than some DIY home method.

Meanwhile, the potion makers and peddlers, whom are all too happy to sucker and exploit victims in this so-called "war on drugs", are rolling on the ground laughing loud and hard all the way to the bank.
Cannabis users are victimized enough by the war on drugs without these buzzarding scumbags jumping into the mix.

BTW, chobble, my question still stands....

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i do believe some detoxes out there do help out tho.

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On that note, would you care to explain in what manner do they help out where the Dilution recipe doesnt?

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BTW, chobble, my question still stands....

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silynt answerd it for me but arnt u the one with all the answers? :confused:

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I'll answer your question if you want. I just passed a pre-employment screening using an detox drink that I purchased instead of N2's recipe, even though I was well aware of the fact that I was just diluting. I did this for safety and ease of use. I've never done any diluting before, and honestly, I didn't trust myself to not fuck it up. I figured that these potions, while obviously over-priced, already include the vitamins etc. needed to hide the fact that I was diluting. So while N2's recipe is cheaper, personally, I was more comfortable with the product I purchased than some DIY home method.

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what detox did u use? and how long did u refrain from smoking?

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silynt answerd it for me but arnt u the one with all the answers?

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No because there are other knowledgeable members here (they know who they are).

Bottom line is that magic detox potions do nothing that cant be done with water, B2, and creatine-loading, all of which are outlined in the Dilution recipe, which is brought to the reader here for free. Even if you had to go out and buy B2 and creatine supps, the cost would be far less than a $50 (or more) magic potion.

And one more thing: The "money-back guarantee" offered by many potionmakers is not of any kind of insurance that the goop works. When the potion does backfire, and the person attempts to exercise the guarantee, that person is often told:

A) "You did not follow the instructions, therefore the guarantee is void." OR..

B) "Using cannabis is illegal, fudging drug tests is illegal, and our products are not to be used on lawfully administered drug tests, therefore the guarantee is void" .

Scam artists. Nothing less.

A lot of the magic potions have pills to take with them. Usually these pills contain creatine. We have suggested many times that you start taking creatine about 2 days before your urine test. The magic potion people say to take these pills the day of your test. Your body takes time to manufacture creatinine from the creatine, so its ineffective to take it 4 hours before.

i am starting my practice dilution now! just drank my 2 glasses of water and will be following the instructions to a tee. i will post my results later tonight when i test myself! i havnt smoked since sunday so this should be a breeze. ;)

already uringing clear!

the line that shows im negative s very faint but either way i passed! :D

well today is the day. Just popped 4 aspirin...going to start the dilution process in a couple hours

WOW! i just finished my ~48th oz of water and im already testing negative! And the line is appearing darker as well. This is amazing! I am going to continue dilluting on a daily basis for another week :)

i'm glad you are testing negative, but there is no reason to dilute all week... it won't rid your body of any more thc than if you just diluted on test day.

also when you dilute, you make the creatinine and specific gravity diluted too, so make sure you load up on both before you test!

Good luck.

be careful ... massive amounts of water, can bring on serious heart problems :wtf: