If you want to listen to some quality rap listen to some Aesop Rock and MF Doom. I won't even tell you what songs to listen to because they're all great.
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If you want to listen to some quality rap listen to some Aesop Rock and MF Doom. I won't even tell you what songs to listen to because they're all great.
I've met Aesop before and got him to sign an album.
I'm huge DOOM fam, you should check out his madvillain shit. Its a duo of him and madlib.
Aesop is just beyond amazing. You should check out Yak Ballz, they are the same crew.
Might i also recommend some Company Flow.
Yeah I got all of Dooms CDS. Have you listened to his Special herbs Collection? It's just all of these beats. You should also check out KMD for some of Dooms older stuff. Way older.Quote:
Originally Posted by esoteric420
Yeah, Aesop and DOOM are both great, been a fan of both for a long time...
aesop is one of the best OUT right now...he is a reg in my winamp list :) his new cd "None Shall PAss" is not quite as good as "Labor Day"... but labor day is CLASSIC
mf doom i like a little...not a big fan though... "Tick Tick" is a BAD ASS song... i cant name many more :/
oh...and also...if u like aesop and doom u will DEFINITELY like Cannibal Ox...."The Cold Vein" is another classic...
First time I saw Aesop live, I was shocked this guy is white because he sounds black. Shows the talent. People think Lil' Wayne has talent, unless they heard Aesop, they don't what talent is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weelittlelasey
Slug (Atmosphere,The dynoSpectrum, etc...)
Aesop Rock
MF Doom
P.O.S.
El-P
my top 5 favorite MC's right now
fuck Lil Wayne and all that commercial shit
Fuck Lil Wayne? I think both Aesop Rock and MF Doom have done some "commercial" stuff as well like the recent cover with TOBACCO. You may not like Lil Waynes style, but he has some pretty in depth lyrics. The Carter is a great album. I am a fan of all these artists listed by the way
what I mean by "fuck hat commercial shit" is all the shit that gets the top40 hype and Mtv plays, it's all pre-packaged and bullshit. And to me Lil' Wayne is right in there with them, it's not a matter of his style... I've looked into his lyrics too, and I've heard entire albums by him because some of my friends dig him. But he's weak in comparison to a lot of the underground MC's, and many of my friends I've played the more underground stuff for have even admitted it. Those cats can out-rhyme pretty much all the shit that gets radio play, problem is you gotta actually make an effort to hear them, cause you wont hear them on the radio cause it's not commercial friendly... IMO the real talent lies within the underground, cause I've gone to many shows by the artists listed and more, and they could run circles around all those MTV rappers, and Lil Wayne included... so yeah I stand by it... Fuck Lil' Wayne, I think he's incredibly overrated.
Who gives a shit about top 40. I don't listen to the radio nor care about what is popular. I only care about what sounds good. Jay-z is pretty "commercial" and plays the top 40, and last time I checked, the guy has some talent.
You're getting me all wrong dude... I'm not discrediting those with talent, what I am discrediting is many of the artists that get the hype and sales because they're pushed down our throats, and told it's good. many of that is what makes up the Top 40's, and while you may not care about the top 40. Unfortunately many people don't make the efforts to look beyond what's topping the charts (it's true for any genre you cant deny that), which is NOT saying that there aren't some who deserve it. I just feel many rappers out there (IMO Lil Wayne included)... do not deserve all the credit and hype they get, cause many of the underground rappers could out rhyme them any day.
I'm also willing to accept that what you and I consider "talented" in an MC might be very different standards, and personal preference. But I still stand by my opinion cause being a recording and sound engineer I feel strongly about that kinda thing. Feel me?
i gotta say i like me some jayz and eminem from time to time...and i also like a lot of underground rap...honestly i listen to more hevy metal and older metal than anything...but good music is good music...just because someone makes more or less money doin it doesnt change the way it sounds... if its good i listen to it..
I feel you. Its an opinion. And I am also in the sound biz as well so I do have much credit although just by being a musician or sound engineer alone does not give warrant past opinions. I believe Rick Rubin has quoted being not a musician nor does he know much if not hardly anything when it comes to music. He just knows what people want and what sounds good to him. (Spin Magazine) When you don't like an artist, you tend not to listen to them and all they have to offer. Lil wayne holds a different sound and seems to be more polished, maybe due to the fact that he can afford a better producer. I believe that Lil Wayne can outshine those artist on any given sunday so to speak, but I also think the like can do just as good. He has had a rather large following and was considered by many, even before he had a platinum selling album, to be a great rapper. Beyond being great, ie the best, that can only follow opinion, and to me, you have just cited that with no real evidence beyond saying that he is commercial. If you could convince me on style, lyrical play, and the like then I might agree.
It is the goal of any artist to be successful, maybe not with monetary means, but in the fact that they would like to be heard by people.