I don't agree with all of Savages issues, but this one. It is kind of scary what the Imams preach. Check out this vid.
YouTube - Michael Savage and his views on Islam
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I don't agree with all of Savages issues, but this one. It is kind of scary what the Imams preach. Check out this vid.
YouTube - Michael Savage and his views on Islam
Silence! I KILL YOU! (a muslim's voice at the end of the vid).
This is a good video. Unfortunately Michael Savage is just an entertainer, whose credibility is weak due to his past offensive behavior, which detracts from the occasional times when he does a rant that gets it right.
Trivia: Michael Alan Weiner, AKA Michael Savage, worked for Timothy Leary at his psychedelic compound at Millbrook.
Michael Savage flirts with prophetic genius when he nails a topic right. Unfortunately, getting reliable, gold nuggets of powerful information from Michael Savage is like bobbing for apples in a bowl of broken glass. I like what he has to say about radical Islam, more or less. Though he has a natural talent for making you go "...yeah...yeah!....Hell yeah!...you're totall righ--...wait, what the hell?"
This was a brilliant video. Savage seemingly gets way out of hand with his views and rhetoric, but when he's right, he's right.
It's hard for me to say that, considering I literally boil when I hear his views on what he calls the destructive power of marijuana. But I'm not willing to shut my ears just because I disagre with him. Regardless of how degenerate my recreational hobby seems to him.
My husband is an Arab, I don't believe any of it Christian or Muslim. Personally it is all bullshit, fighting over some made up God. Foolish really. :stoned:
I would recommend practicing an awareness for Agnosticism, despite its lack of acceptance by the hierarchy. People need to understand the alternatives to religion and more awareness on the approach religions would take on agnostics and atheists. It's a matter of maintaining our rights for reason and truth.
This is one of the most tragic misconceptions about religion: that it should be disregarded because of the troubles it causes.Quote:
Originally Posted by slavetopot
I don't mean to personally clash with your views, but I find it takes a substantial amount of faith to not believe in a higher power of some sort. Given the profound complicity of how life exists and supports itself in an ocean of nothingness. Ironically, I think science is the best proof there is that religion has a "method to the madness", if you will.
But I'm just one guy. And I will say that while you might not believe in God, we must certainly see eye-to-eye on the savagery of human nature. I would conclude that most brutality in the name of God is done more-so in the defense of culture, rather than actually living out the doctrine of religion.
I would love to believe there is something bigger than me, an all knowing being watching out for us. I have thoughts, and questions that make it hard for me to believe in any of it. Here are just a few things I need to know?
There is no scientific evidence indicating that God exists. We all know that. For example:
â?¢ God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth.
â?¢ None of Jesus' "miracles" left any physical evidence either.
â?¢ God has never spoken to modern man, for example by taking over all the television stations and broadcasting a rational message to everyone.
â?¢ The resurrected Jesus has never appeared to anyone.
â?¢ The Bible we have is provably incorrect and is obviously the work of primitive men rather than God.
â?¢ When we analyze prayer with statistics, we find no evidence that God is "answering prayers."
â?¢ Huge, amazing atrocities like the Holocaust and AIDS occur without any response from God.
â?¢ And so onâ?¦
Let's agree that there is no empirical evidence showing that God exists.
If you think about it as a rational person, this lack of evidence is startling. There is not one bit of empirical evidence indicating that today's "God", nor any other contemporary god, nor any god of the past, exists. In addition we know that:
1. If we had scientific proof of God's existence, we would talk about the "science of God" rather than "faith in God".
2. If we had scientific proof of God's existence, the study of God would be a scientific endeavor rather than a theological one.
3. If we had scientific proof of God's existence, all religious people would be aligning on the God that had been scientifically proven to exist. Instead there are thousands of gods and religions.
The reason for this lack of evidence is easy for any unbiased observer to see. The reason why there is no empirical evidence for God is because God is imaginary :(
Wow, backed up with such researched "facts", too... maybe spend a little more time skimming that Bible next time you open it. Or don't, whatever... but Youtube doesn't make for the most credible/non-biased sources. :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by slavetopot
There are plenty of reasons why God doesn't personally intervene in our lives, but if you want to take certain reasons, skew them, and devise your own interpretation of divinity, then by all means, no one is stopping you. But remember, you've proven nothing... other than your professed belief. Nothing more, nothing less. You're not swaying any theists beliefs with these verbose rants about atheism, so why do you try so hard? Are you angry that others don't need hard evidence to justify faith, but apparently you do?
But just because God is imaginary to you, doesn't mean He is to everyone else. He's VERY real to other people, and for people like you to try so desperately to shake their belief is really caustic (look it up), and this lame unoriginal argument has become really stale. Would it be impossible to keep these feelings to yourself? Or do you feel that it's necessary to try and upset others with this atheist tripe?
Good ol Savage, i agree with what he's saying on this one. Obviously it's a polemic, but some points he made are true and i know exactly which ones.
I don't believe Islam is the problem. The problem is when religion gets too heavily involved in life. Once a state indoctrinates a religion into law, it affects the psychology of citizens of entire nations. Religion isn't the problem, there's nothing with a belief system, a set of principles to guide you through life. There's nothing wrong with trying to understand the spiritualness of being human and coping in this world. When Islam the message becomes twisted and imposed it creates psychological barbarism within many of them. Don't confuse the American Islam, with ones from the Middle East, and to an extent Europe. The ones in America for the most part has evolved. In many parts of the world it hasn't, which is unfortunate and has all the shit.
Are you saying that because you personally think life is too complex or "lucky" that there must be a higher being?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nylo
I find that to be very silly. As there is always the question of where did this higher being come from? Generally when people make that argument they are making it for their god. Then most people have no problem not knowing where their god came from yet not knowing why we are here or how we came to be is such a big issue that there HAS to be an explanation. So when Science can't, at the moment, provide that they turn to religion or the supernatural to explain it. Which of course is where the god of the ever decreasing gaps comes in.
Also it'd be nice if you elaborated on your last sentence I quoted. As it appears you move to make a point yet don't quite reach it.
Wow, just having his name in the title must have repelled all the limp wristed, I am shocked, 2 pages of posts on the topic and no one said that he was a racist? Cool:thumbsup:
All religions teach hate not just Islam.All religions advocate war instead of peace
No, all religions don't preach hate and war. Take Buddhism, for instance... founded upon a solid foundation of peaching love and peace. The Four Noble Truth's, the Eightfold Path, the Five Moral Precepts, Refuge in Three Jewels, the Marks of the Conditioned, etc., ALL teach a person how to make the best of suffering, and how succeed in this life and all subsequent afterlives.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishman3811
All religions have followers that try to justify hate and war by misinterpreting their holy scriptures. Most religions were founded on peace, understanding of suffering and pain, and differing ways to view the world around us. But any nutjob can misinterpret what was intended to be peaceful words, and use them to attack others. It just so happens that the literal words of the koran are easier to misinterpret than some other religious philosophies. Read it for yourself, that's what I did. I never questioned the religion until I took the time to actually read what Islam promotes. And in many cases, it appears as spitefulness towards non-muslims and a tendency to be distrustful of others who don't share in their ideology. I think Savage is justified in many of the things he says about the religion... he just happens to be extra vocal about his opinions because it helps his ratings.
...and, by the way, your avatar is cool! :thumbsup:
Mr i stand corrected i totally forgot about Buddhism its about the only religion that doesnt advocate war and hate.Even though i dont know much about that religion ive heard things about it and what i have heard its been nothing but good things i wish some of their beliefs would trickle down to the western religions maybe the world would be a better place.