1 joint is equivalent to 20 cigarettes.

Fox news posted a story today about marijuana being much more harmful than cigarettes...personally, I find it hard to believe. Here is the story. Any thoughts/comments would be great.

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Smoking marijuana is far more dangerous than smoking cigarettes, according to a group of scientists in New Zealand.

The researchers found that smoking one joint is equivalent to 20 cigarettes in terms of lung cancer.

While studies in the past have shown that marijuana can cause cancer, few have actually established a strong link between marijuana use and the actual incidence of lung cancer.

For the study, researchers interviewed 79 lung cancer patients in an effort identify the main risk factors for the disease, such as smoking, family history and occupation. The patients were questioned about alcohol and marijuana consumption.

In the high-exposure group, lung cancer risk rose by 5.7 times for patients who smoked more than a joint a day for 10 years, or two joints a day for 5 years, after adjusting for other variables, including cigarette smoking.

"Cannabis smokers end up with five times more carbon monoxide in their bloodstream (than tobacco smokers)," team leader Richard Beasley, at the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand, said in a news release.

The scientists also noted that marijuana could be expected to harm the airways more than tobacco since its smoke contained twice the level of carcinogens, such as polyaromatic hydrocarbons, compared with tobacco cigarettes.

"There are higher concentrations of carcinogens in cannabis smoke...what is intriguing to us is there is so little work done on cannabis when there is so much done on tobacco,â?� said Beasley.

"In the near future we may see an 'epidemic' of lung cancers connected with this new carcinogen. And the future risk probably applies to many other countries, where increasing use of cannabis among young adults and adolescents is becoming a major public health problem,â?� he added.

For the full story, view:
FOXNews.com - Smoking One Joint is Equivalent to 20 Cigarettes, Study Says - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News

wow i dont know what to belive anymore
i cant see that being true either i can smoke a joint n feel fine but if i smoke a fag i feel shity n tarred up
mayb its just in my head but i HATE fags lol

Find me one person that got lung cancer from just smoking weed. It has anti-cancer causing properties anyway. Have you ever met an old stoner that looked anything like an old cig smoker? If someone smokes tobacco for 40 years, they just look old, haggard, wrinkly and nasty.

If it is a concern, then just eat that shit, or vape it. You can't eat tobacco!!!

the worse thing is their probibly using chemicaly produced weed for the studies

Did they also forget to mention this test wasnt conducted on humans.

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"In the near future we may see an 'epidemic' of lung cancers connected with this new carcinogen. And the future risk probably applies to many other countries, where increasing use of cannabis among young adults and adolescents is becoming a major public health problem,â?�

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As if cannabis is just becoming popular, if anything the generation that should have been a cancer epidemic would have been the sixties.

Cannabis Smoke and Cancer: Assessing the Risk
Cannabis Smoke and Cancer: Assessing the Risk - NORML

Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic
Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic

Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer
US: Web: Study: Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer

Three studies should be enough, but there are more in the link below. I've been toking 40 years- the main problem was that my lungs didn't like the smoke. It took less than 2 weeks to clear up 40 years of "smoke abuse". Vaping is the way to go!- Granny:hippy:

Fox news is also a media controlled biased Republican piece of shit. I just consider it a subsidiary of the Federal government, an outlet for them to spew shit they want you to hear and let their own agendas be played out.

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Originally Posted by texas grass

the worse thing is their probibly using chemicaly produced weed for the studies

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I thought the exact same thing. Something with the cannabis had to have been altered to create these results. I am 100 percent sure that this is all propaganda to turn the public view against the use of cannabis. Cannabis has really never done anything to my lungs in this past year of smoking, although I do have bronchitis now, I don't believe it happened because of smoking it. Cannabis actually makes me STOP coughing and takes away the pain I experience from it. Supposedly though it will make it worse by irritating my lungs...how ironic.

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...despite potentially higher levels of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons found in cannabis smoke compared to tobacco smoke (dependent on what part of the plant is smoked), the THC present in cannabis smoke should exert a protective effect against pro-carcinogens that require activation. In contrast, nicotine activates some CYP1A1 activities, thus potentially increasing the carcinogenic effects of tobacco smoke-
Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic

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^^^Thanks, Granny!^^^

I remember that most of cannabis' carcinogens are NOT in the smoke-able part (the bud). Notice the parenthesis in the first sentence (of the quote, above).

yeah well they dont put filters on joints dah!

and the bacon you had for breakfast

had cancer causing Nitrates galore ~~~~

And so the demonizing continues with more junk science.:(

Its actually true... Smoking on joint of mexican brickpacked thats been sprayed 4-5 times with everything from hairspray to fabric softener, before it hits your hands in a bodaiga in the form of a nickle bag. Sure I could believe that.
But fresh Kind-bud thats been organically grown ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh. You can't tell me ever that its worse than some tobacco thats been treated with what 27 diff. chemicals.
No way no how.

It's sad that Fox news isn't honest enough to really look at this study and report on it honestly. Studies like this give a really bad name to real scientists. The methodology on it is some of the worst I've seen in a while.

First, this is a population study. In order to accurately conduct a population study you need a large enough sample group to ensure that your sample at least approximates the whole population. 79 people doesn't even come close to a proper sample size.

Second, he has no control group. All of the people studied already have lung cancer. Where are the healthy people? How many of them smoked weed and didn't get cancer?

Quite frankly, this study isn't worth the paper it's written on.

HAHAHA
Even there moto says it
"We report, You decide"




bastards..... :D

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Originally Posted by LIP

It's not true. Simple as that. Theres no need to think about it - its just not true.

It's completely fabricated. 100% false. Theres not a shred of truth behind it.

Cannabis doesnt cause cancer. Tobacco does. Anyone who says smoking cannabis is worse than smoking tobacco should be publicly executed in the most brutal way.

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Oh please don't take me too seriously, I just was pointing out the cancer causing agents in hairspray and fabric softener that are often sprayed onto US shwagg to try and hide the scent.
But moreover I was just giving those people a poke. I smoke the good organic so I know all about how clean it is. I also have read the studies about the cancer halting properties of good smoke.
LOVE THE GANJA :jointsmile:

thats so much bullshit. if it wasnt for the republicans FOX would be the rag tabloid of the tv world running stories on UFOs inseminating Native Americans with whale seeman and a barber pole. sensationalism phffffttttt!!!!

the Toronto Star had the smae article, but written in a slightly different format.

there is no explanation how 1j=20cigs, and thats not even brought up in the article. it just says of a bunch of lung-cancered shmucks, that some smoked pot during thier lives, therefore without doubt causing said disease....

thats illogical in so many ways. hasnt this 1joint=20cigs idea been around for like 10 years now, and never with real evidence to back it?

if that research isn't peer reviewed, it should be treated with extreme skepticism.

It's reefer madness all over again.

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hasnt this 1joint=20cigs idea been around for like 10 years now, and never with real evidence to back it?

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no its been around much longer than that. i remember this rumor when i was in high school and thats been over 20 years now

Absolute bullshit but really considering the source are you surprised? The faux news channel is crap.

Many people think smoking marijuana is just as harmful as smoking tobacco, but this is not true. Those who hold that marijuana is equivalent to tobacco are misinformed. Due to the efforts of various federal agencies to discourage use of marijuana in the 1970's the government, in a fit of "reefer
madness," conducted several biased studies designed to return results that would equate marijuana smoking with tobacco smoking, or worse.

For example the Berkeley carcinogenic tar studies of the late 1970's concluded that "marijuana is one-and-a-half times as carcinogenic as tobacco." This finding was based solely on the tar content of cannabis leaves compared to that of tobacco, and did not take radioactivity into consideration. (Cannabis tars do not contain radioactive materials.) In addition, it was not considered that:

1) Most marijuana smokers smoke the bud, not the leaf, of
the plant. The bud contains only 33% as much tar as tobacco.

2) Marijuana smokers do not smoke anywhere near as much as tobacco smokers, due to the psychoactive effects of cannabis.

3) Not one case of lung cancer has ever been successfully linked to marijuana use.

4) Cannabis, unlike tobacco, does not cause any narrowing of the small air passageways in the lungs.

In fact, marijuana has been shown to be an expectorant and actually dilates the air channels it comes in contact with. This is why many asthma sufferers look to marijuana to provide relief. Doctors have postulated that marijuana may, in this respect, be more effective than all of the prescription drugs on the market.

Studies even show that due to marijuana's ability to clear the lungs of smog, pollutants, and cigarette smoke, it may actually reduce your risk of emphysema, bronchitis, and lung cancer. Smokers of cannabis have been shown to outlive non-smokers in some areas by up to two years. Medium to heavy tobacco smokers will live seven to ten years longer if they also
smoke marijuana.

Cannabis is also radically different from tobacco in that it does not contain nicotine and is not addictive. The psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, THC, has been accused of causing brain and genetic damage, but these studies have all been disproven. In fact, the DEA's own Administrative Law Judge Francis Young has declared that "marijuana in its natural form is far safer than many foods we commonly consume."

whats that I smell? Could it be REEFER MADNESS? :hippy:

Peace,
Denial

LMAO that movie is so funny! That dude hitting his mom with the frying pan. Priceless!

Weed really makes me want to hit someone with a pan. Look out I might even grab the egg beater!