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Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton : Two Families, Three Decades In The White House, The Very Best Of Friends YOUR NEW REALITY
Tuesday December 18, 2007
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Hillary Clinton likes to give the impression that she stands utterly opposed to President George W. Bush, and that she believes he has ruined the United States during his seven years in power.

But it's all a lie. The Clintons and the Bushes are really the best of friends, as we pointed out on this blog almost two years ago.

Such good friends in fact, that Bill Clinton has announced that his wife's "number one priority" on taking control of the White House would be to send him and former President George H.W. Bush on a world tour to declare the United States is "open for business and cooperation":

Former President Bill Clinton said Monday that the first thing his wife Hillary will do when she reaches the White House is dispatch him and his predecessor, President George H.W. Bush, on an around-the-world mission to repair the damage done to America's reputation by the current president - Bush's son, George W. Bush.

"Well, the first thing she intends to do, because you can do this without passing a bill, the first thing she intends to do is to send me and former President Bush and a number of other people around the world to tell them that America is open for business and cooperation again," Clinton said in response to a question from a supporter about what his wife's "number one priority" would be as president.

Her "number one priority", eh? Sure, nothing more important than bilking the US taxpayers for a victory lap of the world by the Bush-Clinton 'family' regime.

And this announcement is supposed to help Hillary Clinton get elected?

Are these people insane?

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They're supposed to be enemies. But they're really good friends

More than 40% of Americans have never known the White House without a Clinton or Bush in the West Wing. Fatigue and nervousness amongst young American voters of what the president himself called "Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton" is now one of the biggest hurdles Hillary Clinton has to overcome, but more likely than not the families will find a way to install her in the West Wing at the end of next year.

So Bill and Hillary Clinton are now claiming that President George W. Bush has screwed up the country so badly that he, Pappa Bush and a host of other dignitaries will have to tour the world to announce that the bad times are over?

How fascinating it is to see that not so long ago, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush were sharing quality phone time on how to run the White House.

From YNR, January 2006 :

Mr Bush said he checked in with Mr Clinton occasionally. "And you know, he says things that make it obvious â?¦ that we're kind of, you know, on the same wavelength about the job of the presidency," he said.

And what "wavelength" is that? President Bush didn't explain.

And now, less than two years later, Bill Clinton is announcing that if his wife wins the White House, he will be sent on a diplomatic mission to try and undo the damage done by his "brother" George W.?

Please. How stupid do these people think we are?

More on the very close relationships in the Bush-Clinton Presidential Family :

US President George W. Bush thinks it's funny that Senator Hilary Clinton could be the next President of the United States.

Despite the fact that both her and her husband Bill Clinton have savaged the Bush 2 Administration, and mocked the President for being dumb and careless and out of touch, there are no hard feelings from the Bush Family.

Bill Clinton spends an awful amount of time doing charity gigs with his former rival and fellow ex-President George Herbert Walker Bush. They've become great friends and current President Bush thinks of Bill as a member of the family now.

"That's a good relationship," Bush said of his dad's flourishing mateship with "my new brother".

President Bush thought it was "fun" to watch his father and Clinton together at the funeral of Pope John Paul.

When asked about who might be the next President of the United States, Bush mused about how future historians might look back and view the decades when only a few key members of two old American families held the most powerful office in the world as "Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton", he said.

Who needs elections?

The Bush-Clinton Family Album : W. On Bill "He's My Brother"

Its the Illumniti.

That is just the worst idea ever.

A Clinton will now have to marry a Bush in order to consolidate the dynasty. Of course that will also result in a breach of the seventh seal, and all the demons of hell will spill forth to devour the earth...

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Originally Posted by pisshead

Please. How stupid do these people think we are?

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What I learned in the last election is this: "Never under-estimate the stupidity of common Americans."

You would think after a president dangerously invades another country, kills their leader, and looses any sort of control in that country that Americans would elect a different leader, well, at least I thought so, then Kerry lost...

It is happening again, despite Clinton's lack of serious experience, her close relations with the creators of our broken health care system, and lack of any sort of morals within her family that Americans would reject this horrible choice for commander in chief, however people are easily mislead to believe the exact opposite is true.

I wish I could be honest and say, "It's ok, even if she wins the primaries, there is no way she can win the general election". However, all the mass media needs to do is keep a candidate hidden, that while would be very popular among many republicans, would be so hated by democrats and independents that they would prefer a female Satan over 4 more years with another right wing Christian nutjob. I am, of course, talking about the rise in popularity of Mike Huckabee. Everything is playing out oh, so perfectly. The media is feeding everything in piece by piece, and nobody is smart enough to put the God damn puzzle together. But then again, maybe I'm just another Ron Paul conspiracy nut....let's see if what I said doesn't happen to a T these next few months...

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Originally Posted by Nailhead

What I learned in the last election is this: "Never under-estimate the stupidity of common Americans."

You would think after a president dangerously invades another country, kills their leader, and looses any sort of control in that country that Americans would elect a different leader, well, at least I thought so, then Kerry lost...

It is happening again, despite Clinton's lack of serious experience, her close relations with the creators of our broken health care system, and lack of any sort of morals within her family that Americans would reject this horrible choice for commander in chief, however people are easily mislead to believe the exact opposite is true.

I wish I could be honest and say, "It's ok, even if she wins the primaries, there is no way she can win the general election". However, all the mass media needs to do is keep a candidate hidden, that while would be very popular among many republicans, would be so hated by democrats and independents that they would prefer a female Satan over 4 more years with another right wing Christian nutjob. I am, of course, talking about the rise in popularity of Mike Huckabee. Everything is playing out oh, so perfectly. The media is feeding everything in piece by piece, and nobody is smart enough to put the God damn puzzle together. But then again, maybe I'm just another Ron Paul conspiracy nut....let's see if what I said doesn't happen to a T these next few months...

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I know, but these people have such a likely chance of making fools of themselves, especially when they are confronted by past mistakes, and their numbers drop. They can get all the support from the religious and media corporations, but you know who has the people's support. When it all goes down, one will be superior over the other. What is irritating is when religion becomes incorporated into media. Religious propaganda is not America.

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Originally Posted by Innominate

I know, but these people have such a likely chance of making fools of themselves, especially when they are confronted by past mistakes, and their numbers drop. They can get all the support from the religious and media corporations, but you know who has the people's support. When it all goes down, one will be superior over the other. What is irritating is when religion becomes incorporated into media. Religious propaganda is not America.

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I disagree that these people's past mistakes negatively harm their poll numbers. The Bush's and Clinton's have made disastrous mistakes, that if people actually were paying attention, neither would have any support at all. The simple fact that over half of democrats think Clinton being wife of a likable, yet not so perfect, president equates to experience is proof enough that people are believing the crap they are being fed. I also disagree that you don't think religious propaganda is not American, I disagree with this completely. I wish it weren't true, but this country is believed by the majority of Americans to have been settled into a Christian society so many believe it should always be that way, despite the constitution's clear instructions to keep religion separate from American government, or the fact that references to God on our money and in our pledge of allegiance were only added recently.

Religion has, and always will, be very closely tied to any person desiring power, IE, US Presidents. If this weren't true, then the issue would not come up because people would not care about a president's religion, but they do. Even if the voter isn't a perfect model for that popular religion, they always will want their leader to at least look more perfect than they try to be. So rather than waste the time and energy at researching each candidate, they just look for the one that sounds like someone God would want and wherever they take this country is justified under the glory of God.

Again, I wish this wasn't true and religion wasn't important when selecting a president of the United States, but I also wish Santa Claus would ride his fat ass down my chimney next week and leave presents under my Christmas tree. Don't think that'll happen though :stoned:

Well fuck. I knew a lot of this for awhile, but not all of it.

I just watched, "An Unreasonable Man" about Ralph Nader. It was pretty badass. The DNC and GOP sent a cop out into the parking lot of their debates threatening to arrest him for trespassing. The General Election debates are run by the Democrats and Republicans. They basically said he was not a contender, so they would not give him a place on stage. When he tried to attend and sit in the audience, they threatened him with a thug of the law. So, he was not a contender, but they felt threatened by him. He was not a contender, but the Democrats blamed Gore's and Kerry's losses on him.

I joined the Green Party after Bush got "elected" the second time. I was going to vote for Nader, but I was afraid of Bush getting elected so I voted for Kerry, hoping he would end the war. John "Long Devil" Kerry conceded the election to his fellow Bonesman, George "Temporary" Bush.

I registered Republican to vote for Ron Paul.

So what I get from this is that if you disagree with a portion of a persons political beliefs/practices, that you can't be "friends" or at least sociable?

One of my best friends has FULL intention of voting for Hillary......does this mean I can't share a joint with him now?

Have a good one!:s4:

^Hey P4B...I think it means we have the duty to inform our friends and family that these folks are not fit to lead this Republic. They are criminals.

I also have friends that support Hillary. I gave them some information, similar to what Pisshead has so generously shared, and some of them have changed their tune. A couple now support Ron Paul! A total switcharoo from slavery and socialism to freedom and liberty...peace and prosperity. BUT, the friends that still looove Hitlery - well, we share joints and so much other stuff in commom, it's all good.

LOL, Don't think so!

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Originally Posted by 420izzle

A total switcharoo from slavery and socialism to freedom and liberty...peace and prosperity.

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No offense but isn't this just a bit dramatic? I don't recall "slavery" being and issue for YEARS.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

No offense but isn't this just a bit dramatic? I don't recall "slavery" being and issue for YEARS.

Have a good one!:s4:

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No it's not if you can understand the different forms of slavery.

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Originally Posted by epxroot

No it's not if you can understand the different forms of slavery.

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Please explain further.....seems we all have the right to live where we want and to pursue the life style we want also.

I "could" get back into the suit and tie and do the sales gig again for amazing cash but I prefer to do other things as of now....I'm nobodys slave!

OOOPS, correction........that's unless she's damn cute and brings her own paddles.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Please explain further.....seems we all have the right to live where we want and to pursue the life style we want also.

I "could" get back into the suit and tie and do the sales gig again for amazing cash but I prefer to do other things as of now....I'm nobodys slave!

OOOPS, correction........that's unless she's damn cute and brings her own paddles.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

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Do you honestly believe that we can pursue the lifestyle we would like?

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Originally Posted by epxroot

Do you honestly believe that we can pursue the lifestyle we would like?

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Why not? I decided instead of a short haircut, suit, ties, etc...to get a Harley, let my hair grow out and go into the maintenance field of work. I CHOOSE to go no further with my education since I already have a degree so this is my field UNLESS I choose to do otherwise. Education determines job status and we all have the choice on what to pursue.

Home life; I currenty live with a lady 21 years younger than me....MY CHOICE. Also, if she decided that one of her girl friends would like to make me a Psycho sandwich on a regular basis I don't see anyone breaking down my door saying that I can't do it.

Who owns me? NOBODY! I choose to go where I want and where I want. I see whoever I choose to see and likewise, flip off those that I feel are a waste of my precious time.

If this is slavery........Master is awfull good to me.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Why not? I decided instead of a short haircut, suit, ties, etc...to get a Harley, let my hair grow out and go into the maintenance field of work. I CHOOSE to go no further with my education since I already have a degree so this is my field UNLESS I choose to do otherwise. Education determines job status and we all have the choice on what to pursue.

Home life; I currenty live with a lady 21 years younger than me....MY CHOICE. Also, if she decided that one of her girl friends would like to make me a Psycho sandwich on a regular basis I don't see anyone breaking down my door saying that I can't do it.

Who owns me? NOBODY! I choose to go where I want and where I want. I see whoever I choose to see and likewise, flip off those that I feel are a waste of my precious time.

If this is slavery........Master is awfull good to me.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

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Do you decide where you tax dollars go? Can you smoke weed freely? Can you walk down the street after sitting in the bar for a few hours without being stopped and arrested for public intoxication? How much control do you have over your own property? How long will you pay taxes on that property? Can you carry a weapon freely without having to get a gun permit? These are just a few examples on how much of your individual freedom you don't have control over. The best way to enslave a society is to make them think they're free and have choices.

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Originally Posted by epxroot

Do you decide where you tax dollars go? Can you smoke weed freely? Can you walk down the street after sitting in the bar for a few hours without being stopped and arrested for public intoxication? How much control do you have over your own property? How long will you pay taxes on that property? Can you carry a weapon freely without having to get a gun permit? These are just a few examples on how much of your individual freedom you don't have control over. The best way to enslave a society is to make them think they're free and have choices.

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1) That's the governments job....I try to elect officials that are within my beliefs as far as spending.
2) In my house....hell yeah. Nobody breaking down my doors for doing nothing. Granted it's illegal but still....they don't stop me.
3) After a few hours? DAMN...ease off on the shots my friend! LOL If your drunk to the point that they'll pick ya up you really shouldn't be on the streets anyways. Don't see how this relates to slavery at all.
4) I have total control of my property whether I want to keep it, give it away, or destroy it.
5) I'm also in favor of a complete change in the tax code....another issue.
6) No gun permits........sure would be great for the bangers. No, I can't but I'm also realize why this is a good thing.

If your going to look at the negatives and dwell on that; hell yeah...it would seem like gloom and doom. I look at all that I can do BECAUSE of the system we live in and appreciate the freedoms that I do have and enjoy daily. Slaves have NO freedoms...they're owned.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

If your going to look at the negatives and dwell on that; hell yeah...it would seem like gloom and doom. I look at all that I can do BECAUSE of the system we live in and appreciate the freedoms that I do have and enjoy daily. Slaves have NO freedoms...they're owned.

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I agree. To call what we have in the US slavery is to really diminish the idea of slavery. It's not fair to those who suffer real slavery.

When you evaluate the American system, you need to compare it to what went before in history and to what it's like in the rest of the world. Our freedoms and opportunities here now in the US are far better than in most of history and better than in most of the rest of the world. It's certainly not perfect, but it compares well to what has been accomplished in other places and other times. If you ever don't appreciate what you have here, talk to someone who came here from somewhere else --- that has always been an eye-opener for me.

The only "slavery" I ever feel in my life is the need to spend more time working than I like to make ends meet and sometimes having to do work I don't really enjoy --- the idea of the wage slave. The real problem there is the mental slavery of consumerism, but you can always opt out of that system if you want to. If you choose to cut back on the material goods that you need from society, you can cut your expenses so much that your time can be pretty much your own.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

1) That's the governments job....I try to elect officials that are within my beliefs as far as spending.
2) In my house....hell yeah. Nobody breaking down my doors for doing nothing. Granted it's illegal but still....they don't stop me.
3) After a few hours? DAMN...ease off on the shots my friend! LOL If your drunk to the point that they'll pick ya up you really shouldn't be on the streets anyways. Don't see how this relates to slavery at all.
4) I have total control of my property whether I want to keep it, give it away, or destroy it.
5) I'm also in favor of a complete change in the tax code....another issue.
6) No gun permits........sure would be great for the bangers. No, I can't but I'm also realize why this is a good thing.

If your going to look at the negatives and dwell on that; hell yeah...it would seem like gloom and doom. I look at all that I can do BECAUSE of the system we live in and appreciate the freedoms that I do have and enjoy daily. Slaves have NO freedoms...they're owned.

Have a good one!:s4:

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No it's not the Federal Governments job. The only responsibility they have are to ensure are liberty's are not violated.

2. That is my argument of control. They have no right to tell you whats bad for you. Cigarettes are bad, but they're legal.

3. No I am 21 and I can legally drink. If I decide to walk home rather than drive I don't think that I should be arrested.

4. I don't know how it is in your state but in mine I can not put whatever I want on my property. I am talking about having a chicken coup and not something that would offend anyone. Also my family has land that has been in our family for over 100 years but still they have to pay ridiculous amounts of property tax.

6. Gun permits have nothing to do with your history. There is already a background check on everyone who purchases a weapon which I am in favor for. I do not think I need to have a permit once I have been considered safe to own a gun.

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I agree. To call what we have in the US slavery is to really diminish the idea of slavery. It's not fair to those who suffer real slavery.

When you evaluate the American system, you need to compare it to what went before in history and to what it's like in the rest of the world. Our freedoms and opportunities here now in the US are far better than in most of history and better than in most of the rest of the world. It's certainly not perfect, but it compares well to what has been accomplished in other places and other times. If you ever don't appreciate what you have here, talk to someone who came here from somewhere else --- that has always been an eye-opener for me.

The only "slavery" I ever feel in my life is the need to spend more time working than I like to make ends meet and sometimes having to do work I don't really enjoy --- the idea of the wage slave. The real problem there is the mental slavery of consumerism, but you can always opt out of that system if you want to. If you choose to cut back on the material goods that you need from society, you can cut your expenses so much that your time can be pretty much your own.

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Like I was explaining earlier there are different forms of slavery. We are slaves to a system that relies on our wages to support their spending habits. The Federal Government believes that our wages are 100% theirs and that they are being nice when they forcefully take a certain percentage. I have no say as to where my tax dollars go which I think is insane since it is my money! We also have inflation which is killing our economy and in turn making us work harder and longer hours just to put food on the table. We should not be punished because they're unable to balance a budget. There is a simple answer to all our financial problems and that is to CUT spending. Our Government has become too big and we are supporting their growth. I say cut the spending, and the lies and give the country back to the people who make it what it is today.

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Originally Posted by epxroot

Like I was explaining earlier there are different forms of slavery. We are slaves to a system that relies on our wages to support their spending habits.

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That is a very loose definition of slavery. A true slave might find it a sort of ridiculous idea that you consider yourself a slave just because you pay taxes, considering the amount of freedom and opportunity you have and the fact that you even have money to tax.

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Originally Posted by epxroot

The Federal Government believes that our wages are 100% theirs and that they are being nice when they forcefully take a certain percentage. I have no say as to where my tax dollars go which I think is insane since it is my money!

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I don't really believe the government rejoices in their ability to tax, and I don't think they consider your money to be all theirs. All governments have expenses and need to impose some form of taxes --- it's another thing you can compare to history and to other places around the world. You do have a say in how your tax money is spent --- you don't get to draw up the budget yourself, but you do elect your representatives. If you don't like what they are doing, you can work to change your representative. That's one thing you can do that a slave cannot.

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Originally Posted by epxroot

We also have inflation which is killing our economy and in turn making us work harder and longer hours just to put food on the table. We should not be punished because they're unable to balance a budget. There is a simple answer to all our financial problems and that is to CUT spending. Our Government has become too big and we are supporting their growth. I say cut the spending, and the lies and give the country back to the people who make it what it is today.

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Now you are into a policy debate. Slaves do not get to debate policy. If you do not like the policies of your government and how they spend money, you need to elect a different representative.

If you really believe you are some kind of slave in this society, then you have enslaved yourself with your victim mentailty.

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Originally Posted by dragonrider

That is a very loose definition of slavery. A true slave might find it a sort of ridiculous idea that you consider yourself a slave just because you pay taxes, considering the amount of freedom and opportunity you have and the fact that you even have money to tax.

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No it is not a very loose definition of slavery.

slav·er·y (slā'və-rē, slāv'rē) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. slav·er·ies 4. A condition of hard work and subjection: wage slavery.

Like I said there are many forms of slavery. Most people are used to thinking of a stereotypical slave. The kind of slave we are taught about in school. Anytime our wages are forcefully taken it is a form of slavery. I work hard for my money, so I believe I should keep it. We escaped over taxation before, and now we are heading down the same road once again. If you think things will get better in the future then I have some bad news for you..It's not! Until we can find a way to cut spending there will be no reduce in taxation ever. It will just increase more and more. Which in turn makes you a slave to an economic system.

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Originally Posted by dragonrider

I don't really believe the government rejoices in their ability to tax, and I don't think they consider your money to be all theirs. All governments have expenses and need to impose some form of taxes --- it's another thing you can compare to history and to other places around the world.

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Once again you are thinking of the stereotypical slave. If the Government is so concerned about lowering taxes for us then why do I keep paying more and more money each year? Let alone have to try and budget for the inflation of everything. Why do we have inflation if our so called economy is so strong?

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Originally Posted by dragonrider

You do have a say in how your tax money is spent --- you don't get to draw up the budget yourself, but you do elect your representatives. If you don't like what they are doing, you can work to change your representative. That's one thing you can do that a slave cannot.

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This will not ever work until we can take this country back from the Federal Government. It hasn't worked like this since I have been alive, and it hasn't worked while my father has been alive. The system is flawed and needs to be fixed. Our representatives no longer represent the people of their state. They choose corporations before the people who pay their salaries.

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Originally Posted by dragonrider

Now you are into a policy debate. Slaves do not get to debate policy. If you do not like the policies of your government and how they spend money, you need to elect a different representative.

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Again you make it sound like I can just choose who is elected and who isn't.

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Originally Posted by dragonrider

If you really believe you are some kind of slave in this society, then you have enslaved yourself with your victim mentailty.

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No I have not enslaved myself with a victim mentality. More like my eyes have been opened to a system that is run by extortion and over taxation. A system that keeps the middle and poor class down from taxation and inflation. A welfare state that depends on my hard work to support handouts. Honestly this issue is too big to try and discuss in here.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

If this is slavery........Master is awfull good to me.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

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I read a report recently that slavery has never been as widespread in the history of the world as it is now.

i skipped the last few statements , sorry. some of the control are a deffinate worry, but as said "nobody is banging on my door" and it will stay that way. as far as other freedoms we want/need they arent in the near future anyways, so keep living. i am also not sure the bushes should be diplomats fixing the errors of their ways. hillary said something that freeked me out the other night, "we (the usa) are the best nation on the earth" that was a little unsetteling for some one who wants to make peace. cant really say yet as i avoid pollitics with a passion but something has to give and you cant judge someone on just one statement.

Are freedoms and rights to take care of our families are slowly being taken away.

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